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2013-01-03 08:42:11 AM  
I think Chuck Cunningham was gay.

Seriously... he disappeared upstairs, and was never seen again. In fact, Howard Cunningham disowned his son so thoroughly, he once stood up in court and said, under oath, that he only had two children.

I bet Chuck ran off with the black drummer Richie and Potsie had in their band that one time, explaining why we never saw ether of them again. Plus, the interracial homosexuality was so distasteful to Mr. C, Well, he completely refused to recognize he had a third child.
 
2013-01-03 08:56:36 AM  
You ain't gay, you ain't nothin'! You ain't NOTHIN'!
 
2013-01-03 09:07:10 AM  
Harvey Firestein?
 
2013-01-03 09:26:34 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-03 09:30:44 AM  
Who's not gay... he's just sometimes a foppish dandy who looks like your grandma

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-01-03 09:43:50 AM  
The pop culture gay flavor of the minute? White gay dads.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-03 09:48:40 AM  

Mugato: The pop culture gay flavor of the minute? White gay dads.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 216x150]


You can count on them.
 
2013-01-03 10:27:50 AM  
Subby?
 
2013-01-03 10:35:35 AM  
The New Normal is terrible. Though I completely disagree with the ultra-conservative mother of the surrogate mother, and recognise that that is the writers' intent. The writing for the character would probably for a drama, but for a comedy the character is basically a black hole that completely kills any humor around it. The rest of the show isn't all that great, but that character makes it go from "Meh" to unwatchable.
 
2013-01-03 10:39:10 AM  
We're not supposed to care right? I mean thats what we keep being told and yet we have to celebrate it everytime someone comes out.
 
2013-01-03 10:45:11 AM  
 
2013-01-03 10:46:13 AM  
I'm so glad I don't own a television and that I'm better than everyone else because of it.
 
2013-01-03 10:47:09 AM  

t3.gstatic.com

 
2013-01-03 10:48:22 AM  
But too often, says Bendix, these are small roles played by exoticized, slinky femmes. "Like, 'the other' is always going to be the other," she observed ruefully.

That's because people don't want to see real lesbians on TV. TV!=reality. The same principle applies to porn.

If I had a choice between a 200Lb, butch hambeast who's a "real" lesbian, and ScarJo saying "I Like to have sex with girls!", I...

...

...I'll be in my bunk.
 
2013-01-03 10:49:12 AM  
Oh, MacGyver's gay.
 
2013-01-03 10:51:52 AM  
Not too long ago, he says, pop culture mainly defined gay men as promiscuous and deviant, rather than monogamous and devoted to their families.

We've finally managed to make inroads in social and legal acceptance for the gay community but do we really need to squeeze all the fun out of it?
 
2013-01-03 10:52:15 AM  
tiwibzone.tiwib.netdna-cdn.com
 
2013-01-03 10:56:40 AM  

Bob el-Hed: Oh, MacGyver's gay.


www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-01-03 11:00:40 AM  
Came for the Dr. Horrible reference (um, the second one), leaving satisfied.

/and then satisfied again by the first Dr. Horrible reference
//not gay, but if I were, I'm pretty sure NPH would be hot
///not that there's anything wrong with that
////hated Seinfeld
//Hyper slashie combo!
 
2013-01-03 11:04:05 AM  
i.imgur.com

"...I am programmed in multiple techniques..."

/Ridem' cowboy
//So gay,
 
2013-01-03 11:04:39 AM  
Onkel Buck
We're not supposed to care right? I mean thats what we keep being told and yet we have to celebrate it everytime someone comes out.

I'm with you on this. Be gay...I'm fine with that, but why is it such a big deal these days? Seems a little insecure to me at this point.

/Straight or gay, doesn't matter...I still ain't gettin' any! :)
 
2013-01-03 11:04:51 AM  
Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?
 
2013-01-03 11:06:09 AM  
The New Normal is just a terrible, terrible show...and it has nothing to with anybody being gay, straight, bi, inter-species, whatever, it's just a horribly NOT funny show!
 
2013-01-03 11:06:13 AM  
And after that: Why does it matter?
 
2013-01-03 11:06:41 AM  

PopFreshenmeyer: Bob el-Hed: Oh, MacGyver's gay.

[www.blogcdn.com image 200x243]


uhh.. muh, buh...
 
2013-01-03 11:06:58 AM  

boyvoyeur: Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?


Wait another minute. You mean to tell me that masculine hunk of he-man Charles Nelson Reilly was gay?
 
2013-01-03 11:10:27 AM  
What if they're just homosexual?
 
2013-01-03 11:15:47 AM  

GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: madcan34: I'm so glad I don't own a television and that I'm better than everyone else because of it.

I sincerely hope that was sarcasm. I'm fed up with this "I don't own a television. I streamed Dexter last night though it was really good." You don't get to lord over all humanity because you don't use the old-style idiot box and watch everything on the new-fangled idiot tablet/console/laptop/desktop/phone. My new totally untrue elitist statement has become "I don't consume entertainment media."


bragging about not watching TV while on the internet has always been a very odd thing to brag about; especially on Fark.
 
2013-01-03 11:16:23 AM  
i830.photobucket.com

The following people are gay.
 
2013-01-03 11:18:13 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: madcan34: I'm so glad I don't own a television and that I'm better than everyone else because of it.

I sincerely hope that was sarcasm. I'm fed up with this "I don't own a television. I streamed Dexter last night though it was really good." You don't get to lord over all humanity because you don't use the old-style idiot box and watch everything on the new-fangled idiot tablet/console/laptop/desktop/phone. My new totally untrue elitist statement has become "I don't consume entertainment media."

bragging about not watching TV while on the internet has always been a very odd thing to brag about; especially on Fark.


I own a TV, but hardly ever watch it. I can watch all my favorite shows commercial free on the internet though, so there's not much point to television for me.
 
2013-01-03 11:19:13 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: I think Chuck Cunningham was gay.

Seriously... he disappeared upstairs, and was never seen again. In fact, Howard Cunningham disowned his son so thoroughly, he once stood up in court and said, under oath, that he only had two children.

I bet Chuck ran off with the black drummer Richie and Potsie had in their band that one time, explaining why we never saw ether of them again. Plus, the interracial homosexuality was so distasteful to Mr. C, Well, he completely refused to recognize he had a third child.


Hahah great explanation! I always felt bad for "Chuck"...in my head, he ran off to the military and was KIA, which his dad kept on the DL...or his reference in Court, Potsie's dad was the true father of Joanie (He had an ailment that didn't allow him to serve in WW2, but certainly allowed him to 'service' Mrs. C)..

Anyhow, need more Coffee.
 
2013-01-03 11:20:19 AM  

WhoGAS: Onkel Buck
We're not supposed to care right? I mean thats what we keep being told and yet we have to celebrate it everytime someone comes out.

I'm with you on this. Be gay...I'm fine with that, but why is it such a big deal these days? Seems a little insecure to me at this point.

/Straight or gay, doesn't matter...I still ain't gettin' any! :)


It's the first decade in modern history where someone can be openly gay (to the point of it being reflected in popular culture and media) without it being something that is taboo, hidden, attacked, or apologized for. There are some stigmas to get through, but a tipping point has been reached. I think it more of a celebration, not really a forceful "big deal". It's an area of media that couldn't be developed until recently, and now it's open. There's going to be lots of attempts to capitalize on the market and develop it before it becomes fully integrated into the mainstream. It'll carry for a while as the political fight continues.
 
2013-01-03 11:24:02 AM  
I have no issues with gay marriage or letting them adopt. does not affect me so I live and let live. (BTW I am not proud of this. I should be more out spoken about these issues but I fear the consequences. Please forgive me)

But I will shoot the first person that says the word "gaybies" in front of me.
 
2013-01-03 11:26:48 AM  

Rose McGowan Loveslave: I have no issues with gay marriage or letting them adopt. does not affect me so I live and let live. (BTW I am not proud of this. I should be more out spoken about these issues but I fear the consequences. Please forgive me)

But I will shoot the first person that says the word "gaybies" in front of me.


Is that "gaybies" instead of "babies"
Or "gaybies" instead of "rabies"
 
2013-01-03 11:27:12 AM  

Boudica's War Tampon: boyvoyeur: Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?

Wait another minute. You mean to tell me that masculine hunk of he-man Charles Nelson Reilly was gay?


He once ran a four minute mile blindfolded, with an engine block strapped to his back.
 
2013-01-03 11:27:24 AM  

madcan34: I'm so glad I don't own a television and that I'm better than everyone else because of it.


Instead of attacking people better than you, why not improve yourself by getting rid of your TV?
 
2013-01-03 11:31:07 AM  
Followed immediately by Who Gives A Fark?
 
2013-01-03 11:36:14 AM  

LectertheChef: I own a TV, but hardly ever watch it. I can watch all my favorite shows commercial free on the internet though, so there's not much point to television for me.


eh, I can see the TV eventually becoming used solely for multi-person viewing (i.e. movies) or console gaming, but as it stands currently: you are generally watching shows on your computer that were made for a TV audience.


though my comment was mostly directed at the "Television = Idiot Box, no friend of mine - submitted to Fark" crowd.
 
2013-01-03 11:41:34 AM  
Next up: who's gay?

Who cares?
 
2013-01-03 11:41:58 AM  

chevydeuce: The New Normal is just a terrible, terrible show...and it has nothing to with anybody being gay, straight, bi, inter-species, whatever, it's just a horribly NOT funny show!


Which is a shame, because Ellen Barkin does a great female Archie Bunker.
 
2013-01-03 11:45:02 AM  
Tom Cruise.
 
2013-01-03 11:48:15 AM  
Really? I'm the first?

www.polyfro.com
 
2013-01-03 11:50:20 AM  

FeedTheCollapse: The New Normal is terrible. Though I completely disagree with the ultra-conservative mother of the surrogate mother, and recognise that that is the writers' intent. The writing for the character would probably for a drama, but for a comedy the character is basically a black hole that completely kills any humor around it. The rest of the show isn't all that great, but that character makes it go from "Meh" to unwatchable.


The problem with it is that it seems like it's trying to make a point more than out is trying to be funny. Most annoying, it's a point which belongs more in 1992 (when Pat Buchanon was challenging the nomination of President Bush on a platform of "make gay illegal and throw out all legal immigrants") than in 2012.
 
2013-01-03 11:51:47 AM  

Nurglitch: What if they're just homosexual?


"And there's another word! Homosexual! When was the last time you could use the word homosexual in its proper context?"
"And its such a lovely word"
"One if the great words"
"My word jane, I used to say to my wife, the garden is looking quite homosexual today!"
"Landlord Ill have two foaming pints of your most homosexual beer"

/obscure?
 
2013-01-03 12:00:50 PM  

boyvoyeur: Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?


Oh, you!!!!!
 
2013-01-03 12:05:18 PM  
Hey, subby...

media.fakeposters.com
 
2013-01-03 12:06:26 PM  
I have issues with the character "Thomas" from Downtown Abbey having the Evil-Gay alignment.
 
2013-01-03 12:08:08 PM  

meanmutton: FeedTheCollapse: The New Normal is terrible. Though I completely disagree with the ultra-conservative mother of the surrogate mother, and recognise that that is the writers' intent. The writing for the character would probably for a drama, but for a comedy the character is basically a black hole that completely kills any humor around it. The rest of the show isn't all that great, but that character makes it go from "Meh" to unwatchable.

The problem with it is that it seems like it's trying to make a point more than out is trying to be funny. Most annoying, it's a point which belongs more in 1992 (when Pat Buchanon was challenging the nomination of President Bush on a platform of "make gay illegal and throw out all legal immigrants") than in 2012.


I kind of agree. Though I think it would be a tough task, I think they could make a caricature of a horribly racist, homophobic conservative work, but the character they created in the end just doesn't work well in the comedy genre. A truly despicable character generally doesn't work in comedy, even if the character is a villain of sorts.
 
2013-01-03 12:10:27 PM  
Downton even. Freakin evil, gay autocorrect...
 
2013-01-03 12:12:36 PM  

Wasilla Hillbilly: I have issues with the character "Thomas" from Downtown Abbey having the Evil-Gay alignment.


I cringed more with that characterization than I did with Marc St. James on Ugly Betty. Mostly because Thomas falls into ye olde "immoral/wicked gay" category while Marc St. James was a hilarious henchmen with a rich back story.
 
2013-01-03 12:13:51 PM  

LectertheChef: FeedTheCollapse: GlobalStrategic MapleSyrup Reserve: madcan34: I'm so glad I don't own a television and that I'm better than everyone else because of it.

I sincerely hope that was sarcasm. I'm fed up with this "I don't own a television. I streamed Dexter last night though it was really good." You don't get to lord over all humanity because you don't use the old-style idiot box and watch everything on the new-fangled idiot tablet/console/laptop/desktop/phone. My new totally untrue elitist statement has become "I don't consume entertainment media."

bragging about not watching TV while on the internet has always been a very odd thing to brag about; especially on Fark.

I own a TV, but hardly ever watch it. I can watch all my favorite shows commercial free on the internet though, so there's not much point to television for me.


That's all well and good. As a matter of fact I LIKE that more people are watching online. I don't like that we're slowly killing the general quality of new programming on TV by not continuing to
www.berfrois.com
and the bar for entertainment continues to drop lower (despite what Steven Johnson says) but that's just the cost of doing business. The literary world seems to be acclimating to the modern age fairly well, newsprint is coughing and sputtering and journalistic standards are weakening but it will survive online, radio will find its way once it stops crutching on social media, television should too. Consolidation of media is GOOD.

My key point here is that we're all shifting this way, we're ALL drifting online. Not having a tv but still watching shows does not make you a special and unique snowflake. It is NOT the same argument as not owning a car and saying you do not drive but take the bus. It's more like saying "I don't drive/own a car" but borrowing your mom/gf/bf/friend's car every day.
 
2013-01-03 12:14:28 PM  
It's only gay if you go past the first knuckle
 
2013-01-03 12:16:18 PM  
I'm gay! What do I win?
 
2013-01-03 12:17:14 PM  
"The Demonic Gay." "Antique Bakery" My favorite line in the drama. In how he is described by those around him.
 
2013-01-03 12:22:42 PM  
People who I think are gay on television but apparently aren't:

Alan from 'Two and a Half Men'.
JD from 'Scrubs'.
The "straight" father from 'Modern Family'.
Jeff from 'American Dad'
Raj from 'Big Bang Theory'.
 
2013-01-03 12:27:05 PM  
czei:

OMNOMNOM
 
2013-01-03 12:27:19 PM  

Buttknuckle: I'm gay! What do I win?


static.cinemagia.ro
 
2013-01-03 12:28:44 PM  
Raj from 'Big Bang Theory'.
I'll have what he's having please !
 
2013-01-03 12:30:36 PM  

KatjaMouse: Wasilla Hillbilly: I have issues with the character "Thomas" from Downtown Abbey having the Evil-Gay alignment.

I cringed more with that characterization than I did with Marc St. James on Ugly Betty. Mostly because Thomas falls into ye olde "immoral/wicked gay" category while Marc St. James was a hilarious henchmen with a rich back story.


Meh, I think we are at the point now where having an awful person, who happens to be gay, shouldn't be chalked up as a bad stereotype. Besides, I'm not sure Thomas falls in to the whole "evil/immoral" category anymore, he's had a lot of growth as a character.
 
2013-01-03 12:33:29 PM  
media.screened.com
what gay footmen might look like
 
2013-01-03 12:34:56 PM  
Learin the gay...

static1.purepeople.com
 
2013-01-03 12:36:57 PM  
Oh, McGuyver's gay!

static.chilango.com
 
2013-01-03 12:43:24 PM  
I'm going to read the thread and bother to spell MacGyver correctly next time... that'll teach me to comment...
 
2013-01-03 12:47:04 PM  
You know who are some irritating gay characters? Greg and Terry from American Dad. I chalk them up to Seth McFarlane being... himself.
 
2013-01-03 01:10:10 PM  

entropic_existence: Meh, I think we are at the point now where having an awful person, who happens to be gay, shouldn't be chalked up as a bad stereotype. Besides, I'm not sure Thomas falls in to the whole "evil/immoral" category anymore, he's had a lot of growth as a character.


Well, I'm keeping honest and didn't pirate season 3 and even cut a check last week to PBS because I appreciate Downton that much. From what little I get concerning him in season 3 is that he's definitely going to be more fleshed out and we get a better peek into his life to see how it is he came to be. However, back in season 1, that initial introduction was definitely cringe worthy.
 
2013-01-03 01:14:48 PM  
Damnit subs, i already had an earworm from watching Dr. Horrible for the umpteenth time 2 days ago...
 
2013-01-03 01:23:04 PM  

KatjaMouse: Well, I'm keeping honest and didn't pirate season 3 and even cut a check last week to PBS because I appreciate Downton that much. From what little I get concerning him in season 3 is that he's definitely going to be more fleshed out and we get a better peek into his life to see how it is he came to be. However, back in season 1, that initial introduction was definitely cringe worthy.


Yeah, I was trying to be spolier-free since I know not everyone who watches has seen season 3.
 
2013-01-03 01:23:52 PM  
Do any of you get disappointed when you discover that a celebrity you always assumed to be gay is totally straight?

Obligatory link for the cool kids.
 
2013-01-03 01:28:17 PM  

Boudica's War Tampon: boyvoyeur: Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?

Wait another minute. You mean to tell me that masculine hunk of he-man Charles Nelson Reilly was gay?


Charles Nelson Riley was a mighty man....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTwNYjwbwag
 
2013-01-03 01:34:57 PM  

boyvoyeur: Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?


I'm not saying he was gay but I heard that he Souped some Sales, if you know what I mean and I think you do.
 
2013-01-03 01:42:20 PM  
Max from Happy Endings seems to be the only gay man on TV who isn't a mincing stereotype (and perhaps not coincidentally is closer to how most of my gay friend tend to be)
 
2013-01-03 01:44:00 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Mugato: The pop culture gay flavor of the minute? White gay dads.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 216x150]

You can count on them.


Now that's old school
 
2013-01-03 01:46:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-03 01:48:01 PM  

Bob el-Hed: Oh, MacGyver's gay.


Well Scooby Doo can DOO DOO, but Jimmy Carter is smarter!
 
2013-01-03 01:49:45 PM  
I was thinking the other day... are spoons the gay items of the utensil world? thoughts?
 
2013-01-03 01:54:12 PM  

T.rex: I was thinking the other day... are spoons the gay items of the utensil world? thoughts?


sporks
 
2013-01-03 01:54:40 PM  

boyvoyeur: Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?


Center-square gay
 
2013-01-03 01:58:25 PM  

WippitGuud: Rose McGowan Loveslave: I have no issues with gay marriage or letting them adopt. does not affect me so I live and let live. (BTW I am not proud of this. I should be more out spoken about these issues but I fear the consequences. Please forgive me)

But I will shoot the first person that says the word "gaybies" in front of me.

Is that "gaybies" instead of "babies"
Or "gaybies" instead of "rabies"


How are gaybbies formed?
 
2013-01-03 01:58:29 PM  
Mike Seaver.  Totally gay.
 
2013-01-03 01:59:06 PM  

Boudica's War Tampon: Charles Nelson Reilly


You know who else could heal the sick with a touch of his hand?
 
2013-01-03 02:03:37 PM  

Valeriyance: Boudica's War Tampon: Charles Nelson Reilly

You know who else could heal the sick with a touch of his hand?


He's just another b actor on the late late show.
 
2013-01-03 02:07:15 PM  

T.rex: I was thinking the other day... are spoons the gay items of the utensil world? thoughts?


You attach sexuality to utensils?
 
2013-01-03 02:08:06 PM  

Great Janitor: People who I think are gay on television but apparently aren't:

Alan from 'Two and a Half Men'.
JD from 'Scrubs'.
The "straight" father from 'Modern Family'.
Jeff from 'American Dad'
Raj from 'Big Bang Theory'.


Well I know in one episode of AD - Jeff was turning tricks with guys as a male prostitute and it's been well established that Raj and Howard have an ersatz homosexual relationship on BBT. JD was straight but acted pretty gay at times. I always suspected the actor playing him was gay. Don't watch much 2 1/2 Men but Cryer was always a little gay acting. Never seen Modern Family but from promos I think you gotta be meaning Ed O'Neil - if your trying to tell me Al Bundy is gay well then thems fighting words (maybe there is another male parent I don't know about since I don't watch)
 
2013-01-03 02:12:14 PM  

MorePeasPlease: Do any of you get disappointed when you discover that a celebrity you always assumed to be gay is totally straight?

Obligatory link for the cool kids.


Holy, crap. Me and some friends had damn near that same "Cmon, he's in Depeche Mode" conversation the other day.
 
2013-01-03 02:13:52 PM  
Anyone remember when Ellen Degeneres had her character come out publicly on the sitcom she was on and it was like a big major to do? That wasn't even 20 years ago.
 
2013-01-03 02:17:56 PM  

Digitalstrange: Great Janitor: People who I think are gay on television but apparently aren't:

Alan from 'Two and a Half Men'.
JD from 'Scrubs'.
The "straight" father from 'Modern Family'.
Jeff from 'American Dad'
Raj from 'Big Bang Theory'.

Well I know in one episode of AD - Jeff was turning tricks with guys as a male prostitute and it's been well established that Raj and Howard have an ersatz homosexual relationship on BBT. JD was straight but acted pretty gay at times. I always suspected the actor playing him was gay. Don't watch much 2 1/2 Men but Cryer was always a little gay acting. Never seen Modern Family but from promos I think you gotta be meaning Ed O'Neil - if your trying to tell me Al Bundy is gay well then thems fighting words (maybe there is another male parent I don't know about since I don't watch)


On Modern Family, I was actually talking about the guy who plays Ed O'Neil's son in law. Ed O'Neil's character is doing what I want to do at that age, biatch at people and fark Sophia Vergara.
 
2013-01-03 02:18:57 PM  
who cares
 
2013-01-03 02:37:59 PM  

stevetherobot: Boudica's War Tampon: boyvoyeur: Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?

Wait another minute. You mean to tell me that masculine hunk of he-man Charles Nelson Reilly was gay?

He once ran a four minute mile blindfolded, with an engine block strapped to his back.


I remember watching that on Battle of the Network Stars
 
2013-01-03 02:41:50 PM  

Spandau: Mike Seaver.  Totally gay.


No shiat his best friend was called Boner
 
2013-01-03 02:54:13 PM  

Le Grand Inquisitor: Nurglitch: What if they're just homosexual?

"And there's another word! Homosexual! When was the last time you could use the word homosexual in its proper context?"
"And its such a lovely word"
"One if the great words"
"My word jane, I used to say to my wife, the garden is looking quite homosexual today!"
"Landlord Ill have two foaming pints of your most homosexual beer"

/obscure?


Not even close.
 
2013-01-03 02:59:23 PM  
i42.photobucket.com

Uncle Arthur gave me hope as a scared little gay boy. He was so obviously flaming, and yet he was completely accepted by his family and beloved by his niece. I was convinced I would one day lose my family and be hated by them forever when I eventually came out, so it was reassuring to see an example of a gay man who still had his family's respect and love.

Plus, he was an uber-powerful Warlock who pushed-around the uptight anti-magic Darren and teased him mercilessly. Most of the humour of Bewtiched came from watching the conservative priggish Darren being befuddled by his more powerful and intelligent wife, and it was the same with Uncle Arthur - a witty gay man in a position of power above a weaker straight guy was just not something you saw on tv.

Actually, I'm not sure it's a dynamic you see on television today, come to think of it. Bewitched was pretty subversive for it's time.

/I just watched a Bewitched marathon on New Year's Day. I hadn't seen it in decades - it was awesome. I'm going to order the dvd sets now.
 
2013-01-03 03:12:10 PM  

Onkel Buck: Spandau: Mike Seaver.  Totally gay.

No shiat his best friend was called Boner


Exactly!
 
2013-01-03 03:31:55 PM  

Max Awesome: Actually, I'm not sure it's a dynamic you see on television today, come to think of it. Bewitched was pretty subversive for it's time.



I believe, and dont quote me on this, that Agnes Moorehead (Endora), was a lesbian.
 
2013-01-03 03:52:11 PM  

grokca: boyvoyeur: Wait a minute. Paul Lynde was gay?

I'm not saying he was gay but I heard that he Souped some Sales, if you know what I mean and I think you do.


Wait. Soupy Sales was gay? :-)

I have to go back someday and rethink a lot of things from early childhood. My crush on Raymond Burr...and Roddy McDowell, who deserved his name, apparently. Etc.

PETER MARSHALL: According to experts, is it ever okay to use a vacuum cleaner on your dog?
PAUL LYNDE: I think it's better to walk him.
 
2013-01-03 04:33:59 PM  

Mentalpatient87: You know who are some irritating gay characters? Greg and Terry from American Dad. I chalk them up to Seth McFarlane being... himself.


They pale in comparison to Mitch and Cameron on Modern Family. Cam needs to dial the drama queen act down from 11 and Mitch could stand to be less of a prissy b*tch.
 
2013-01-03 04:35:23 PM  

Snapper Carr: Max from Happy Endings seems to be the only gay man on TV who isn't a mincing stereotype (and perhaps not coincidentally is closer to how most of my gay friend tend to be)


Thank FSM for Max. Nice to see someone that reps gay guys like me, even if the actor portraying him is straight in real life.
 
2013-01-03 04:37:50 PM  

Khellendros: T.rex: I was thinking the other day... are spoons the gay items of the utensil world? thoughts?

You attach sexuality to utensils?


Some people like to spoon in bed, while others like to get straight to the forking.
 
2013-01-03 04:54:16 PM  
Too mch gay on tv. It is part of the reason I won't let my kids watch any old tv. Thank god we now have things like netflix; and with an old crt tv that won't pick up digital signals I don't have to worry too much.
 
2013-01-03 05:40:26 PM  

Spindle: Anyone remember when Ellen Degeneres had her character come out publicly on the sitcom she was on and it was like a big major to do? That wasn't even 20 years ago.


I recently made reference to the Ellen coming out episode controversy in a conversation about how rapidly society's changing. I found myself having to explain to the guy I was talking to (who would have been in elementary school at the time) that Ellen was once a controversial public figure.
 
2013-01-03 05:48:14 PM  

Max Awesome: [i42.photobucket.com image 750x562]

Uncle Arthur gave me hope as a scared little gay boy. He was so obviously flaming, and yet he was completely accepted by his family and beloved by his niece. I was convinced I would one day lose my family and be hated by them forever when I eventually came out, so it was reassuring to see an example of a gay man who still had his family's respect and love.

Plus, he was an uber-powerful Warlock who pushed-around the uptight anti-magic Darren and teased him mercilessly. Most of the humour of Bewtiched came from watching the conservative priggish Darren being befuddled by his more powerful and intelligent wife, and it was the same with Uncle Arthur - a witty gay man in a position of power above a weaker straight guy was just not something you saw on tv.

Actually, I'm not sure it's a dynamic you see on television today, come to think of it. Bewitched was pretty subversive for it's time.

/I just watched a Bewitched marathon on New Year's Day. I hadn't seen it in decades - it was awesome. I'm going to order the dvd sets now.


I indentified with Gomer Pyle until I saw Deliverance.
 
2013-01-03 06:22:32 PM  

ErikShocker: Oh, McGuyver's gay!

[static.chilango.com image 142x169]


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Wheeeeee!

 
2013-01-03 07:58:52 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: Mentalpatient87: You know who are some irritating gay characters? Greg and Terry from American Dad. I chalk them up to Seth McFarlane being... himself.

They pale in comparison to Mitch and Cameron on Modern Family. Cam needs to dial the drama queen act down from 11 and Mitch could stand to be less of a prissy b*tch.


I know plenty of gay men who are pretty much walking Mitch's or Cam's. I also know normal professional wouldn't-know-unless-you-asked types. YMMV
 
2013-01-03 08:26:36 PM  

Onkel Buck: Spandau: Mike Seaver.  Totally gay.

No shiat his best friend was called Boner


And his hand was Intelligently Designed by his Creator to hold...umm...a banana...yeah...that's it.
 
2013-01-03 09:20:16 PM  

jackiepaper: FuryOfFirestorm: Mentalpatient87: You know who are some irritating gay characters? Greg and Terry from American Dad. I chalk them up to Seth McFarlane being... himself.

They pale in comparison to Mitch and Cameron on Modern Family. Cam needs to dial the drama queen act down from 11 and Mitch could stand to be less of a prissy b*tch.

I know plenty of gay men who are pretty much walking Mitch's or Cam's. I also know normal professional wouldn't-know-unless-you-asked types. YMMV


My beef with Modern Family is that they do a terrible job of showing why Mitch and Cam are friends, much less partners who supposedly love each other. They're always shown fighting and squabbling, but unlike with Phil and Claire, we rarely see Cam and Mitch showing any sort of affection or anything else that suggests that they're two people who want to spend the rest of their lives together.

Oh, and my other beef is that they established that Cam played D-1 college football, but any time the show him running it's all mincing and flapping his hands and he looks like he never played a sport in his life, much less major college football. Even assuming that he butched himself up big time while playing football, it's just not believable except for playing up badly dated stereotypes for humor at the expense of established character development.
 
2013-01-03 10:56:09 PM  

entropic_existence: KatjaMouse: Well, I'm keeping honest and didn't pirate season 3 and even cut a check last week to PBS because I appreciate Downton that much. From what little I get concerning him in season 3 is that he's definitely going to be more fleshed out and we get a better peek into his life to see how it is he came to be. However, back in season 1, that initial introduction was definitely cringe worthy.

Yeah, I was trying to be spolier-free since I know not everyone who watches has seen season 3.


I WANT SEASON 3 NOW!!

I keep hearing great things about it.
 
2013-01-03 11:24:13 PM  

4seasons85!: entropic_existence: KatjaMouse: Well, I'm keeping honest and didn't pirate season 3 and even cut a check last week to PBS because I appreciate Downton that much. From what little I get concerning him in season 3 is that he's definitely going to be more fleshed out and we get a better peek into his life to see how it is he came to be. However, back in season 1, that initial introduction was definitely cringe worthy.

Yeah, I was trying to be spolier-free since I know not everyone who watches has seen season 3.

I WANT SEASON 3 NOW!!

I keep hearing great things about it.


It is good, though I shan't say anything more about it.

As for Thomas, I never saw him as really embodying the gay villain trope. It seemed to me like they were trying to use that to humanize him and make him more than just a pure villain. You can only go so far in hating him because you're also supposed to feel bad for him. Granted, that's problematic as well since it's getting close to the "tragic gay" trope, but I don't think he was ever presented as the "evil gay" trope. Him being a villain has always seemed to me to be separate and unrelated to him being gay--unlike with the typical presentation of that trope, the two aren't linked.
 
2013-01-03 11:28:50 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Who's not gay... he's just sometimes a foppish dandy who looks like your grandma

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Tune in for "Gay or Just British?"! It's the exciting new game show that stumps the experts!
 
2013-01-03 11:51:42 PM  

bingo the psych-o: FirstNationalBastard: Who's not gay... he's just sometimes a foppish dandy who looks like your grandma

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Tune in for "Gay or Just British?"! It's the exciting new game show that stumps the experts!


I can't wait for the inferior American adaptation: "Gay Or Just Southern?"
 
2013-01-04 12:38:58 AM  

rynthetyn: 4seasons85!: entropic_existence: KatjaMouse: Well, I'm keeping honest and didn't pirate season 3 and even cut a check last week to PBS because I appreciate Downton that much. From what little I get concerning him in season 3 is that he's definitely going to be more fleshed out and we get a better peek into his life to see how it is he came to be. However, back in season 1, that initial introduction was definitely cringe worthy.

Yeah, I was trying to be spolier-free since I know not everyone who watches has seen season 3.

I WANT SEASON 3 NOW!!

I keep hearing great things about it.

It is good, though I shan't say anything more about it.

As for Thomas, I never saw him as really embodying the gay villain trope. It seemed to me like they were trying to use that to humanize him and make him more than just a pure villain. You can only go so far in hating him because you're also supposed to feel bad for him. Granted, that's problematic as well since it's getting close to the "tragic gay" trope, but I don't think he was ever presented as the "evil gay" trope. Him being a villain has always seemed to me to be separate and unrelated to him being gay--unlike with the typical presentation of that trope, the two aren't linked.


This is how I feel about his character. I feel, correct me if you think differently, that he hides his emotions behind a wall of anger and cruelty. Like the time he tried to explain his emotions towards the blind patient we saw how he truly feels. So I think you are right.
 
2013-01-04 01:41:16 AM  

Brother_Mouzone: Max Awesome: Actually, I'm not sure it's a dynamic you see on television today, come to think of it. Bewitched was pretty subversive for it's time.


I believe, and dont quote me on this, that Agnes Moorehead (Endora), was a lesbian.


Yes, I believe she was.

In fact, by the end of the show, the only regular castmember who wasn't gay was probably Larry Tate.
 
2013-01-04 03:17:41 AM  

4seasons85!: rynthetyn: 4seasons85!: entropic_existence: KatjaMouse: Well, I'm keeping honest and didn't pirate season 3 and even cut a check last week to PBS because I appreciate Downton that much. From what little I get concerning him in season 3 is that he's definitely going to be more fleshed out and we get a better peek into his life to see how it is he came to be. However, back in season 1, that initial introduction was definitely cringe worthy.

Yeah, I was trying to be spolier-free since I know not everyone who watches has seen season 3.

I WANT SEASON 3 NOW!!

I keep hearing great things about it.

It is good, though I shan't say anything more about it.

As for Thomas, I never saw him as really embodying the gay villain trope. It seemed to me like they were trying to use that to humanize him and make him more than just a pure villain. You can only go so far in hating him because you're also supposed to feel bad for him. Granted, that's problematic as well since it's getting close to the "tragic gay" trope, but I don't think he was ever presented as the "evil gay" trope. Him being a villain has always seemed to me to be separate and unrelated to him being gay--unlike with the typical presentation of that trope, the two aren't linked.

This is how I feel about his character. I feel, correct me if you think differently, that he hides his emotions behind a wall of anger and cruelty. Like the time he tried to explain his emotions towards the blind patient we saw how he truly feels. So I think you are right.


I'd agree with that, and I think it was hinted at even in the early episodes. Plus, a lot of his scheming was egged on by O'Brien, who is, I think, far and away the real villain of the show. She encouraged and cultivated Thomas' worst tendencies quite a lot.
 
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