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(TSN)   Team USA wins 5-1 to send Canada home to cry in their poutine. Will play Russia or Sweden for gold on Saturday   (tsn.ca) divider line 79
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2013-01-03 08:33:56 AM  
What sport are we talking about here?
 
2013-01-03 08:36:15 AM  
Hockey, and it's a slaughter.
 
2013-01-03 08:46:41 AM  
What I really want to know is did Gordon Bombay and Charlie have that magical father/son moment to fill that void in each of their lives? Cuz it's magical when they do.
 
2013-01-03 08:46:59 AM  
Nobody in Canada knows how to blame the goalie without Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton getting involved.
 
2013-01-03 08:48:21 AM  
Absolute obliteration - Team USA just ruined them. I honestly believe that part of the problem with Team Canada is the media pressure. Every year it's "this is the best Team Canada ever assembled!" and by and large, these guys don't know shiat about dealing with pressure (guys like the Nuge exempted, for obvious reasons).

Disappointing for Team Canada, but it's nice to see such success and confidence in the US junior system.
 
2013-01-03 08:56:52 AM  
After watching Crosby break our American hearts in Vancouver, I'd love to be able to gloat here, but you Canadians are just too damn nice. That being said, timing is everything and Team USA is getting hot at the exact right time. Great to see!
 
2013-01-03 09:09:15 AM  

GavinTheAlmighty: Absolute obliteration - Team USA just ruined them. I honestly believe that part of the problem with Team Canada is the media pressure. Every year it's "this is the best Team Canada ever assembled!" and by and large, these guys don't know shiat about dealing with pressure (guys like the Nuge exempted, for obvious reasons).


The Canadian media way over-hypes this tournament.

It's a fun tourney to watch, but come on. It's not the Olympics. It's not the Stanley Cup. It's a short tourney for a group of kids. A fun way to check in with a group of top prospects and draft eligible players. Quit trying to make it more than that.
 
2013-01-03 09:14:38 AM  
How's Sweden vs Russia going? Last I checked Sweden was up 2-0.
 
2013-01-03 09:19:31 AM  
Every once in a while in the Canadian program they get half-assed in who they assign as the GM and coaches. They end up selecting some guy who believes that all skill and no size is the way to win. Which is exactly the opposite of the heart of Canadian hockey. And every time one of these idiots rolls around. They lose.

This was entirely expected from my standpoint this time around. Thats why i didnt give a fark and skipped all the games. Soon as you leave size and skill at home for speed and skill and bring NO size with you. You get owned by size and skill. Which is the entire USA team basically. I am not going to blame the kids because we know who they are and how inexperienced they are and what their weaknesses are. The kids didnt put the team together.

Scott Salmond and Steve Spott were in WAY over their heads. Get some real coaching and talent evaluators back in the system please.
 
2013-01-03 09:29:07 AM  

keylock71: How's Sweden vs Russia going? Last I checked Sweden was up 2-0.


2-1 Swedes after two.
 
2013-01-03 09:31:33 AM  

keylock71: How's Sweden vs Russia going? Last I checked Sweden was up 2-0.


2-1 Sweden now...
 
2013-01-03 09:38:33 AM  
F*CK SAKES!

Fark doesn't green one goddamn World Junior thread and today I see this spoiler.

GODDAMMIT!

Full credit to the US. That 2-1 Canada win was a real nailbiter and could have easily gone the other way. I'm not surprised that they came back hungry for a win, nor am I surprised that ultimately Subban wasn't our guy. The first two games were shaky, but he played well against the US and Russia. He doesn't have the consistency yet.
 
2013-01-03 09:48:49 AM  
Terrible game, but as people are saying, saw it coming. USA has been hot as of late, and that bye often hurts as much as it helps. That said, it's awesome to see Schiefele and Trouba have great tournaments from a Jets fan.

PLEASE BRING BACK THE NHL FOR FARK'S SAKE.
 
2013-01-03 09:55:09 AM  
Can someone explain how a professional player with NHL experience is still eligible to play Junior hockey? Is age (under 20) the only criteria for eligibility?

I'm talking about Ryan Nugent-Hopkins who played 62 games for Edmonton last year as a rookie and had 52 points (18g, 34a). How the fark is he still eligible to play in this tournament?
 
2013-01-03 09:58:59 AM  

Dick Gozinya: Can someone explain how a professional player with NHL experience is still eligible to play Junior hockey? Is age (under 20) the only criteria for eligibility?


Yes, he's 19, so he's eligible.

It has happened before, too.

Personally, I think there should be a cut off on NHL experience, Sheiffele (sp?) and his 8 or so games with the Jets is questionable, but probably okay to play. Two-thirds of an NHL season played? Yeah, that's over the line, you're not a junior anymore, you're a full blown pro.
 
2013-01-03 10:00:44 AM  

Dick Gozinya: Can someone explain how a professional player with NHL experience is still eligible to play Junior hockey? Is age (under 20) the only criteria for eligibility?

I'm talking about Ryan Nugent-Hopkins who played 62 games for Edmonton last year as a rookie and had 52 points (18g, 34a). How the fark is he still eligible to play in this tournament?


Junior hockey only refers to age (in this case, under 20), not to amateur/professional status.

As a matter of fact, players in Canadian major junior leagues are considered professionals, at least in some respects, and are not eligible, for example, to subsequently compete in NCAA.
 
2013-01-03 10:06:52 AM  
DNRTFA. Assume headline is referring to curling or hockey (the real one, played on grass by girls).
 
2013-01-03 10:11:01 AM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: DNRTFA. Assume headline is referring to curling or hockey (the real one, played on grass by girls).


No, It is referring to a sport for men. Probably why you were unaware of it. But yous just trollin' like Avery.
 
2013-01-03 10:12:38 AM  
Actually, that was out of line. Women's hockey is pretty badass too. Sorry for the disrespect ladies.
 
2013-01-03 10:15:03 AM  
Russia ties it up and they're going to OT
 
2013-01-03 10:21:19 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Actually, that was out of line. Women's hockey is pretty badass too. Sorry for the disrespect ladies.


Not to mention there are actually some cuties in women's hockey as well

usahockey2.com

Amanda Kessel everyone

\Yes, she's Phil's sister
 
2013-01-03 10:22:19 AM  
Well, damn. I didn't think any team would beat the Canadians by 4, let alone the USA. Based on the 1st game, I think the two teams are roughly equal so I'm happily shocked by this result.

And yes, Canada and specifically Canadian media places WAY too much pressure on these kids. And maybe for this year, that's a result of the No Hockey League lockout. But regardless, I can't tell you how many tweets I read about players getting cut from Team Canada last month. No one needs to know every single movement of these kids. It's stupid and it ultimately hurts the team.
 
2013-01-03 10:23:36 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Russia ties it up and they're going to OT


AGAIN!?

Those Russians live for OT in this tournament, it seems.
 
2013-01-03 10:24:32 AM  
Those who've put the biscuit in the basket so far - Mironov and Grigorenko for RUS, Lindholm and Forsberg for SWE.
 
2013-01-03 10:30:27 AM  
And the Swedes win it in a shootout! Gold Medal game on saturday should be a great one to watch
 
2013-01-03 10:32:52 AM  
Mais non!

At least Binnington got a chance to let one in too.
 
2013-01-03 10:34:42 AM  
What a bunch of meatballs.
 
2013-01-03 10:35:22 AM  

WhiskeySticks: Those who've put the biscuit in the basket so far - Mironov and Grigorenko for RUS, Lindholm and Forsberg for SWE.


Can't wait for the NHL season to start up so that I can see Grigorenko in a Sabres sweater.

He's NHL-ready right now.
 
2013-01-03 10:36:16 AM  

Woolwine: And the Swedes win it in a shootout! Gold Medal game on saturday should be a great one to watch


Crazy to think that either Canada or host Russia will go home from this tournament without any medal at all.
 
2013-01-03 10:41:21 AM  

Doc Daneeka: WhiskeySticks: Those who've put the biscuit in the basket so far - Mironov and Grigorenko for RUS, Lindholm and Forsberg for SWE.

Can't wait for the NHL season to start up so that I can see Grigorenko in a Sabres sweater.

He's NHL-ready right now.


And the MVP of the USA Canada game, Jake McCabe is a sabres prospect too!

rangers.lohudblogs.com
 
2013-01-03 10:43:59 AM  

Doc Daneeka: Woolwine: And the Swedes win it in a shootout! Gold Medal game on saturday should be a great one to watch

Crazy to think that either Canada or host Russia will go home from this tournament without any medal at all.


This. Before last week; if there were odds on that happening, they would've been something like 5,000 to 1.

But in the case of Russia, they just played from behind too much.
 
2013-01-03 10:54:16 AM  
This just in...Vladimir Putin will now suit up for team Russia and take on Team Canada by himself.

A bit of advice Canada, don't eat or drink anything given to you by a stranger.
 
2013-01-03 10:55:43 AM  

auralpleasure: Doc Daneeka: WhiskeySticks: Those who've put the biscuit in the basket so far - Mironov and Grigorenko for RUS, Lindholm and Forsberg for SWE.

Can't wait for the NHL season to start up so that I can see Grigorenko in a Sabres sweater.

He's NHL-ready right now.

And the MVP of the USA Canada game, Jake McCabe is a sabres prospect too!

[rangers.lohudblogs.com image 545x544]


And like me, he's also from Wisconsin, so we get an additional bonus for that as well
 
2013-01-03 11:00:12 AM  

Doc Daneeka: GavinTheAlmighty: Absolute obliteration - Team USA just ruined them. I honestly believe that part of the problem with Team Canada is the media pressure. Every year it's "this is the best Team Canada ever assembled!" and by and large, these guys don't know shiat about dealing with pressure (guys like the Nuge exempted, for obvious reasons).

The Canadian media way over-hypes this tournament.

It's a fun tourney to watch, but come on. It's not the Olympics. It's not the Stanley Cup. It's a short tourney for a group of kids. A fun way to check in with a group of top prospects and draft eligible players. Quit trying to make it more than that.


The Stanley Cup may be awarded to the winning team here. The Cup is separate from the NHL and may be awarded to a different league in the event of no NHL. Or that's what someone here or on reddit said.
 
2013-01-03 11:10:54 AM  
The Stanley Cup will not be awarded to anyone this year.

The Cup is owned and controlled by a trust. The trust can award the Cup to whomever they see fit. In an agreement with the NHL, the trustees will ONLY award the Cup to the NHL champion. Of course, the trustees could choose to ignore that agreement if they wanted; they won't. Why? Who are the trustees? Both are former NHL executives. How do you get to be a Cup trustee? By being a former NHL executive. See the pattern? Spot the incest?

Why do we go through this crap every NHL work stoppage?
 
2013-01-03 11:14:18 AM  

netweavr: Doc Daneeka: GavinTheAlmighty: Absolute obliteration - Team USA just ruined them. I honestly believe that part of the problem with Team Canada is the media pressure. Every year it's "this is the best Team Canada ever assembled!" and by and large, these guys don't know shiat about dealing with pressure (guys like the Nuge exempted, for obvious reasons).

The Canadian media way over-hypes this tournament.

It's a fun tourney to watch, but come on. It's not the Olympics. It's not the Stanley Cup. It's a short tourney for a group of kids. A fun way to check in with a group of top prospects and draft eligible players. Quit trying to make it more than that.

The Stanley Cup may be awarded to the winning team here. The Cup is separate from the NHL and may be awarded to a different league in the event of no NHL. Or that's what someone here or on reddit said.


In theory, yes.

In practice, the Trustees who control the Cup have basically said there's no chance in hell that they would allow it to be awarded to a non-NHL team.
 
2013-01-03 11:21:47 AM  

Doc Daneeka: netweavr: Doc Daneeka: GavinTheAlmighty: Absolute obliteration - Team USA just ruined them. I honestly believe that part of the problem with Team Canada is the media pressure. Every year it's "this is the best Team Canada ever assembled!" and by and large, these guys don't know shiat about dealing with pressure (guys like the Nuge exempted, for obvious reasons).

The Canadian media way over-hypes this tournament.

It's a fun tourney to watch, but come on. It's not the Olympics. It's not the Stanley Cup. It's a short tourney for a group of kids. A fun way to check in with a group of top prospects and draft eligible players. Quit trying to make it more than that.

The Stanley Cup may be awarded to the winning team here. The Cup is separate from the NHL and may be awarded to a different league in the event of no NHL. Or that's what someone here or on reddit said.

In theory, yes.

In practice, the Trustees who control the Cup have basically said there's no chance in hell that they would allow it to be awarded to a non-NHL team.


Sounds about right.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/09/19/what-to-do-with-the-stanley-cup/
 
2013-01-03 11:25:59 AM  

Dick Gozinya: The Stanley Cup will not be awarded to anyone this year.

Why do we go through this crap every NHL work stoppage?


Why do NHL work stoppages seem so frequent?
 
2013-01-03 11:33:23 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Dick Gozinya: The Stanley Cup will not be awarded to anyone this year.

Why do we go through this crap every NHL work stoppage?

Why do NHL work stoppages seem so frequent?


Because Bergman.

F*ck you Bergman.
 
2013-01-03 11:42:36 AM  

desertgeek:
Because Bergman. F*ck you Bergman.


You mean Bettman right?
 
2013-01-03 11:49:18 AM  

Milk D: desertgeek:
Because Bergman. F*ck you Bergman.

You mean Bettman right?


/You clearly haven't read all the lockout threads over the past month.
 
2013-01-03 11:59:58 AM  

desertgeek: Milk D: desertgeek:
Because Bergman. F*ck you Bergman.

You mean Bettman right?

/You clearly haven't read all the lockout threads over the past month.


Gave up last month in search of Cheap Throat.
 
2013-01-03 12:15:41 PM  

netweavr: Doc Daneeka: GavinTheAlmighty: Absolute obliteration - Team USA just ruined them. I honestly believe that part of the problem with Team Canada is the media pressure. Every year it's "this is the best Team Canada ever assembled!" and by and large, these guys don't know shiat about dealing with pressure (guys like the Nuge exempted, for obvious reasons).

The Canadian media way over-hypes this tournament.

It's a fun tourney to watch, but come on. It's not the Olympics. It's not the Stanley Cup. It's a short tourney for a group of kids. A fun way to check in with a group of top prospects and draft eligible players. Quit trying to make it more than that.

The Stanley Cup may be awarded to the winning team here. The Cup is separate from the NHL and may be awarded to a different league in the event of no NHL. Or that's what someone here or on reddit said.


according to wikipedia that changed in 1947:

"The WHL folded in 1926, leaving the NHL as the only league left competing for the Cup. Other leagues and clubs occasionally issued challenges, but from that year forward, no non-NHL team has played for it, leading it to become the de facto championship trophy of the NHL.[39] In 1947, the NHL reached an agreement with trustees P.D. Ross and Cooper Smeaton to grant control of the Cup to the NHL, allowing the league to reject challenges from other leagues that may have wished to play for the Cup.[41][42]"
so the only way that would happen is if the NHL itself decided to award it to another league, which I don't see as being very likely.
 
2013-01-03 12:19:23 PM  
Can we please make sure to try and have a Gold Medal game discussion thread greened by 8am EST Saturday? I'll plan to submit to the queue, even if I'm the only one awake.
 
2013-01-03 12:24:12 PM  
That 3rd period of SWE-RUS was awesome. Watching the TSN replay of the USA-CAN game now. Sweet schadenfreude....
 
2013-01-03 12:24:19 PM  

ytterbium: Can we please make sure to try and have a Gold Medal game discussion thread greened by 8am EST Saturday? I'll plan to submit to the queue, even if I'm the only one awake.


Yes, and ideally, one without a spoiler in the headline (of the Bronze medal game), as many of us like to watch (the PVR recording) and Fark simultaneously.

/Though at least today's saved me from watching the last 2 periods...
 
2013-01-03 12:28:03 PM  

desertgeek: Milk D: desertgeek:
Because Bergman. F*ck you Bergman.

You mean Bettman right?

/You clearly haven't read all the lockout threads over the past month.


cant say i blame him .. i have tried to avoid all farkin lockout blabber. let me know when they are playing, better yet stop giving lockout updates on sportscentre, i'd rather hear ahl news and highlights than listen to squablles over moeny.
 
2013-01-03 12:42:45 PM  

poisonedpawn78: Every once in a while in the Canadian program they get half-assed in who they assign as the GM and coaches. They end up selecting some guy who believes that all skill and no size is the way to win. Which is exactly the opposite of the heart of Canadian hockey. And every time one of these idiots rolls around. They lose.


Basically.

I didn't like this team when they announced the selections. OHL coach who selects 2/3 of the team from the OHL/east and a handful of kids from his own god damn team. Talk about favortism. This was NOT the best team Canada could have put together. Not by a long shot. Not during a lockout year.

The problem is Canada gets so arrogant as to think that the tournament is theirs to win so they think putting any shiny squad together is a piece of cake so they try to play fairness and favorites which results in the goofiest selections. That has to end.

Pick the best coach. And the best players. And stop trying to pad your stupid portfolio.
 
rka
2013-01-03 12:46:13 PM  

gretzkyscores: After watching Crosby break our American hearts in Vancouver, I'd love to be able to gloat here, but you Canadians are just too damn nice.


When it comes to international hockey? Canadians and nice aren't even on the same planet.

Twist the knife in. Pour the salt. Gloat.

It's the only language they know in these events.
 
2013-01-03 12:54:53 PM  
USA USA USA
 
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