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(SeattlePI)   Britain's Royal Mail will be releasing Doctor Who stamps to commemorate the show's 50th anniversary, expect stamps featuring the Fourth Doctor and the Tenth Doctor to go for an overinflated price compared to what they're really worth   (seattlepi.com) divider line 89
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2013-01-03 08:35:40 AM  
And I expect most of the Second Doctor's stamps to be chucked in the bin before they even leave the printshop.
 
2013-01-03 08:37:37 AM  

t3knomanser: And I expect most of the Second Doctor's stamps to be chucked in the bin before they even leave the printshop.


The Third Doctor's stamps will also be mostly chucked, but they'll recover black and white photocopies of the missing ones and get someone to add some color to them before selling them.
 
2013-01-03 08:59:12 AM  
They'll have all sorts of issues with the run of the 6th Doctor's stamps, and just as they figure out how to print them, they'll stop production and start on the 7th Doctor version. The 8th Doctor will be printed by the USPS.
 
2013-01-03 09:06:16 AM  

t3knomanser: They'll have all sorts of issues with the run of the 6th Doctor's stamps, and just as they figure out how to print them, they'll stop production and start on the 7th Doctor version. The 8th Doctor will be printed by the USPS.


There will be at least three different versions of Ninth Doctor's stamps in the 8 month delay between the Eighth and Ninth Doctor releases (including a special Mr. Bean variant), all of which will be withdrawn from circulation when the Christopher Eccleston stamp is released.
 
2013-01-03 09:21:53 AM  
Fourth Doctor overrated. Sure, subby.

More of the usual from the Hipster Who crowd: "I was a Second Doctor fan before liking the Second Doctor was cool..."
 
2013-01-03 09:24:46 AM  
No Amy Pond stamp?

\would lick it like no other
 
2013-01-03 09:27:09 AM  
I hope they release weeping angel stamps. Oh wait... that is a very bad idea.
 
2013-01-03 09:30:34 AM  

bk3k: I hope they release weeping angel stamps. Oh wait... that is a very bad idea.


They did release Silence stamps. Wait... did they? I forgot.
 
2013-01-03 09:37:42 AM  

heinrich66: Fourth Doctor overrated. Sure, subby.

More of the usual from the Hipster Who crowd: "I was a Second Doctor fan before liking the Second Doctor was cool..."


Baker and Tennant both suffer from the same problem... their eras ARE overrated.

I'm not saying they're bad. In fact, they still are near the top of the list. But both were the reigning Doctors when a large new influx of fans started watching (Baker was PBS's Doctor of choice, Tennant was incumbent when the US got New Who), leading to people always saying TENNANT/BAKER WERE TEH BESTEST DOCTORS EVAR!!!, when, well, they weren't.

And Baker 1 suffers from further overrating by virtue of the fact that ZOMG DOUGLAS ADAMS WROTE ONE SERIAL THAT MEANS TOM BAKER IS TEH BEST EVAR, JON PERTWEE LOOKS LIKE YOUR GRANDMA, AND K-9 IS PRIME MINISTER!!!1

Both had great runs. Both had some classic stories. But both are way overrated.
 
2013-01-03 09:41:09 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: heinrich66: Fourth Doctor overrated. Sure, subby.

More of the usual from the Hipster Who crowd: "I was a Second Doctor fan before liking the Second Doctor was cool..."

Baker and Tennant both suffer from the same problem... their eras ARE overrated.

I'm not saying they're bad. In fact, they still are near the top of the list. But both were the reigning Doctors when a large new influx of fans started watching (Baker was PBS's Doctor of choice, Tennant was incumbent when the US got New Who), leading to people always saying TENNANT/BAKER WERE TEH BESTEST DOCTORS EVAR!!!, when, well, they weren't.

And Baker 1 suffers from further overrating by virtue of the fact that ZOMG DOUGLAS ADAMS WROTE ONE SERIAL THAT MEANS TOM BAKER IS TEH BEST EVAR, JON PERTWEE LOOKS LIKE YOUR GRANDMA, AND K-9 IS PRIME MINISTER!!!1

Both had great runs. Both had some classic stories. But both are way overrated.


ok then.  Who's the best?
 
2013-01-03 09:41:18 AM  
"I'm a stamp now; stamps are cool."
 
2013-01-03 09:56:37 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: FirstNationalBastard: heinrich66: Fourth Doctor overrated. Sure, subby.

More of the usual from the Hipster Who crowd: "I was a Second Doctor fan before liking the Second Doctor was cool..."

Baker and Tennant both suffer from the same problem... their eras ARE overrated.

I'm not saying they're bad. In fact, they still are near the top of the list. But both were the reigning Doctors when a large new influx of fans started watching (Baker was PBS's Doctor of choice, Tennant was incumbent when the US got New Who), leading to people always saying TENNANT/BAKER WERE TEH BESTEST DOCTORS EVAR!!!, when, well, they weren't.

And Baker 1 suffers from further overrating by virtue of the fact that ZOMG DOUGLAS ADAMS WROTE ONE SERIAL THAT MEANS TOM BAKER IS TEH BEST EVAR, JON PERTWEE LOOKS LIKE YOUR GRANDMA, AND K-9 IS PRIME MINISTER!!!1

Both had great runs. Both had some classic stories. But both are way overrated.

ok then.  Who's the best?


Sean Connery.
 
2013-01-03 10:02:21 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: FirstNationalBastard: heinrich66: Fourth Doctor overrated. Sure, subby.

More of the usual from the Hipster Who crowd: "I was a Second Doctor fan before liking the Second Doctor was cool..."

Baker and Tennant both suffer from the same problem... their eras ARE overrated.

I'm not saying they're bad. In fact, they still are near the top of the list. But both were the reigning Doctors when a large new influx of fans started watching (Baker was PBS's Doctor of choice, Tennant was incumbent when the US got New Who), leading to people always saying TENNANT/BAKER WERE TEH BESTEST DOCTORS EVAR!!!, when, well, they weren't.

And Baker 1 suffers from further overrating by virtue of the fact that ZOMG DOUGLAS ADAMS WROTE ONE SERIAL THAT MEANS TOM BAKER IS TEH BEST EVAR, JON PERTWEE LOOKS LIKE YOUR GRANDMA, AND K-9 IS PRIME MINISTER!!!1

Both had great runs. Both had some classic stories. But both are way overrated.

ok then.  Who's the best?


I personally like Tom Baker for a few reasons. Love his stories for one. He was the first Doctor I saw when my brother introduced me to Doctor Who back in the 90s. I also enjoyed the 2nd Doctor as well. The only Doctor I honestly can not stand is Tennant. I enjoyed him in the beginning of his run but then he became a whinny emo character. Kinda hurt his Doctor when he was biatching about regenerating. All the other Doctors took it with pride and some were exited in a sense (the 9th for example).

Out of all the Doctors, I can not say anything about the 1st, 6th and 7th Doctor yet. I do not remember seeing any of their episodes off the top of my head.
 
2013-01-03 10:03:45 AM  

null: No Amy Pond stamp?

\would lick it like no other


"Why is there an Oswin stamp stuck to the end of your dick?"
 
2013-01-03 10:07:29 AM  

FirstNationalBastard: Tennant was incumbent when the US got New Who


Um, no he wasn't. He was when it jumped from Syfylis to BBCA, but us USAians have had NuWho since the beginning. It's just that most people started watching during Tennant's era.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Who's the best?


I'm going to say Troughton, but not for obscure hipster-y reasons. Troughton laid out the model for how the Doctor behaved, and every Doctor since that has leveraged the seeds that he planted. While the Hartnell era got the show off the ground, Hartnell himself was mostly just cantankerous; he wasn't drawn to adventure, he blundered into it.

Troughton's Doctor laid out the tropes that we associate with the Doctor, more than anyone else he truly invented the character of the Doctor. He brought comedy into it. He brought a cold wit, and a righteous sense of justice. He actively sought companions to join him. The loud fashions, and so on. For all the variations on the Doctor's character, it's Troughton who got there first.
 
2013-01-03 10:09:25 AM  
Screw you.

I like the tenth Doctor.
 
2013-01-03 10:14:45 AM  

null: No Amy Pond stamp?

\would lick it like no other


Im not usually one to deploy the "get out of your parents basement" crack...but maybe its time man...
 
2013-01-03 10:20:36 AM  

yves0010: I personally like Tom Baker for a few reasons. Love his stories for one. He was the first Doctor I saw when my brother introduced me to Doctor Who back in the 90s. I also enjoyed the 2nd Doctor as well. The only Doctor I honestly can not stand is Tennant. I enjoyed him in the beginning of his run but then he became a whinny emo character. Kinda hurt his Doctor when he was biatching about regenerating. All the other Doctors took it with pride and some were exited in a sense (the 9th for example).

Out of all the Doctors, I can not say anything about the 1st, 6th and 7th Doctor yet. I do not remember seeing any of their episodes off the top of my head.


The story about him visiting school children in northern Ireland during the Troubles is pretty cool.
 
2013-01-03 10:21:01 AM  
The 10th Doctor was a whiny spastic -- a tasteless amalgam of cheeky chap and emo-megalomaniac. So set him aside.

Re: the comments on the 2nd Doctor above: Yes, he introduced some comic aspects. That by itself is no great accomplishment. Yes, the huff-and-about injustice, etc.

What the 2nd Doctor lacks in comparison to the 4th -- and in comparison to what is now *taken for granted* in Doctor Who -- is the larger-than-life aspect.

Troughton was a fine actor, but Tom Baker is in a category by himself. Some try to pooh-pooh Tom Baker by saying he wasn't acting -- in a way he wasn't. He was doing more than acting. He was operating on multiple levels of reality at once, always just on the edge of breaking through that 'fourth wall'. He also combined comedy and gravitas in a way far beyond Troughton or anyone else's ability to imitate.

Tom Baker truly made The Doctor larger than life, and more than a character. That's why in the sad, sad, woefully sad era of David Tennant, because the writing and the acting failed to capture that larger-than-life quality, they ended up constantly referencing it, naming it explicitly -- the Doctor as a 'lonely God' -- which made the Doctor into a weak, unlikable character.
 
2013-01-03 10:25:03 AM  
I'd like to make a special delivery to Ms. Coleman.

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2013-01-03 10:27:37 AM  
Am I the only one disappointed in the lack of Derek Jacobi stamps? Because I really wanted to send letters with those on them!
 
2013-01-03 10:27:37 AM  

t3knomanser: FirstNationalBastard: Tennant was incumbent when the US got New Who

Um, no he wasn't. He was when it jumped from Syfylis to BBCA, but us USAians have had NuWho since the beginning. It's just that most people started watching during Tennant's era.



If it makes you feel better, that's what I was going for but didn't put forth correctly... the majority of the US New Who fans began watching in the Tennant era.

/Best Doctor? No such thing.
 
2013-01-03 10:28:21 AM  
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2013-01-03 10:37:51 AM  
There's never been a Doctor I didn't like, which is one reason I'm so devoted to that show. Can't say the same about Enterprise captains or Jedi Knights, but some how, even when their runs were short or troubled, the Doctor has been played by the "right" guy 11 times in a row.

Don't know what I'll do if they ever pick someone I can't get behind. biatch and moan a lot, probably.

Also, Clara is super fine. As was Amy. 11 has great taste in the ladies. Liked 10, but why he was into Rose baffles me.
 
2013-01-03 10:40:48 AM  
The only doctors I could never get into were 5 and 6. I tried to like 5 but there was always something about his Doctor that rubbed me the wrong way. Baker 2's Doctor was just flat out unlikeable.
 
2013-01-03 10:41:30 AM  

heinrich66: always just on the edge of breaking through that 'fourth wall'.


I think the weakness of the Baker era is that he crossed that edge all the time. As great as the Baker/Adams pairing was, there were times when they would just feed off of each other and it would turn into farce.
 
2013-01-03 10:41:54 AM  

Wade_Wilson: There's never been a Doctor I didn't like, which is one reason I'm so devoted to that show. Can't say the same about Enterprise captains or Jedi Knights, but some how, even when their runs were short or troubled, the Doctor has been played by the "right" guy 11 times in a row.

Don't know what I'll do if they ever pick someone I can't get behind. biatch and moan a lot, probably.

Also, Clara is super fine. As was Amy. 11 has great taste in the ladies. Liked 10, but why he was into Rose baffles me.


Remember, 9 brought Rose aboard the TARDIS. He was emotionally vulnerable, and had just, essentially, killed his entire race... he needed a dirty, Chavvy little piece of ass to make him feel better.
 
2013-01-03 10:47:13 AM  

Wade_Wilson: Liked 10, but why he was into Rose baffles me.


He suffered from acute dentaphilia.

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2013-01-03 10:51:22 AM  

t3knomanser: And I expect most of the Second Doctor's stamps to be chucked in the bin before they even leave the printshop.


Hah~!

FirstNationalBastard: The Third Doctor's stamps will also be mostly chucked, but they'll recover black and white photocopies of the missing ones and get someone to add some color to them before selling them.


Lulz.

t3knomanser: They'll have all sorts of issues with the run of the 6th Doctor's stamps, and just as they figure out how to print them, they'll stop production and start on the 7th Doctor version. The 8th Doctor will be printed by the USPS.


You BOTH owe me a keyboard.
 
2013-01-03 10:53:13 AM  
Tennant was very, very good. Call me a NuWho liter if you want, but all three of the newer ones, and the associated tweaks they keep doing to the the show, keep the series interesting and something you want to keep watching. I like the reboot, enjoy the better special effects, the complicated story lines, and each actor's quirks & individual contributions to overall style. While I'm loathe to rank the three newer ones, I liked Tennant very much, from his non-Smithian normal looks, to his gangly exuberance.

I have tried to enjoy the older ones about a dozen times, from my childhood in the '70s and '80s, to again in the last few years, and I cannot get over the poor production values and theatrical stage-play settings the old budgets dictated. I'll keep trying because everyone says the stories are well-written, but it's like trying to watch silent films if you're not a fan of the style.
 
2013-01-03 10:54:43 AM  
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2013-01-03 11:07:56 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Wade_Wilson: Liked 10, but why he was into Rose baffles me.

He suffered from acute dentaphilia.


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I think I know why
 
2013-01-03 11:12:18 AM  

fickenchucker: Tennant was very, very good. Call me a NuWho liter if you want, but all three of the newer ones, and the associated tweaks they keep doing to the the show, keep the series interesting and something you want to keep watching. I like the reboot, enjoy the better special effects, the complicated story lines, and each actor's quirks & individual contributions to overall style. While I'm loathe to rank the three newer ones, I liked Tennant very much, from his non-Smithian normal looks, to his gangly exuberance.

I have tried to enjoy the older ones about a dozen times, from my childhood in the '70s and '80s, to again in the last few years, and I cannot get over the poor production values and theatrical stage-play settings the old budgets dictated. I'll keep trying because everyone says the stories are well-written, but it's like trying to watch silent films if you're not a fan of the style.


Out of all the NuWho series. 2 of the 3 Doctors are good in my book. I think Eccleston was the best of the NuWho. His version of the 9th Doctor was amazing. I think Matt Smith has gone back to the Crazy Man in a Box Doctor which I love too. The NuWho Doctors can me summed up in one word per Doc. 9th is the Warrior Doctor, 10th is the Emo Doctor, 11th is the Shadowy Doctor (He prefers to stay in the shadows when working that is until Demon's Run).
 
2013-01-03 11:14:44 AM  

Wellon Dowd: He suffered from acute dentaphilia

 
2013-01-03 11:22:31 AM  

cluNYC: [i379.photobucket.com image 596x442]


Didn't he continue to play the 8th Doctor on the radio and such. Sad that they did not continue with Doctor Who after his run. Movie was not that bad (had flaws but the story was entertaining).
 
2013-01-03 11:25:49 AM  
You know you can watch ALL of the Doctor Who's on Netflix (all the way back to Episode 1 in like 1964).  Was showing that to my nephew who is really into Dr Who, and he could watch only about 3 minutes before stopping and going "wow that was awful".
 
2013-01-03 11:30:08 AM  

yves0010: fickenchucker: Tennant was very, very good. Call me a NuWho liter if you want, but all three of the newer ones, and the associated tweaks they keep doing to the the show, keep the series interesting and something you want to keep watching. I like the reboot, enjoy the better special effects, the complicated story lines, and each actor's quirks & individual contributions to overall style. While I'm loathe to rank the three newer ones, I liked Tennant very much, from his non-Smithian normal looks, to his gangly exuberance.

I have tried to enjoy the older ones about a dozen times, from my childhood in the '70s and '80s, to again in the last few years, and I cannot get over the poor production values and theatrical stage-play settings the old budgets dictated. I'll keep trying because everyone says the stories are well-written, but it's like trying to watch silent films if you're not a fan of the style.

Out of all the NuWho series. 2 of the 3 Doctors are good in my book. I think Eccleston was the best of the NuWho. His version of the 9th Doctor was amazing. I think Matt Smith has gone back to the Crazy Man in a Box Doctor which I love too. The NuWho Doctors can me summed up in one word per Doc. 9th is the Warrior Doctor, 10th is the Emo Doctor, 11th is the Shadowy Doctor (He prefers to stay in the shadows when working that is until Demon's Run).



I'll buy that. Without the old-Who foundation we're having fun watching your one-word summations of the new guys. It just bugs me when people say Tennant is no good--he was incredible. Keep in mind they act what other guys write, and it felt right to them to explore the human-ness of #10's emotions for a while. Think of #10 as trying to let his emotional detachment grow and let his defenses down a little more than usual, and then getting burned in the process.

And then the Dr. bounced back with a little insanity bubbling below the surface with #11, which is great.
 
2013-01-03 11:31:51 AM  
"let his emotional detachment grow"


I meant "emotional attachment"--but it think you knew that...
 
2013-01-03 11:32:39 AM  

yves0010: I personally like Tom Baker for a few reasons.


Good call.

He was my first Doctor as well.  And you know what they say, you never forget your first.

I have to admit that I really like the new Who as well.

Matt Smith episodes have some of the best lines evar.
 
2013-01-03 11:33:01 AM  

Wellon Dowd: Wade_Wilson: Liked 10, but why he was into Rose baffles me.

He suffered from acute dentaphilia.

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Plus, did you see how she cheated on her Top Gear lap? She blatantly drove a track she invented herself, cut corners and drove off road, and then used her nipples and fluttering eye lashes to bewitch Clarkson into not knocking off time.
 
2013-01-03 11:34:33 AM  
I have always said that the classic Who and its quality is directly tied to the BBC's wishes. The BBC always ordered huge numbers of episodes at the very start, a trend that continued through the Pertwee era and part of Baker's. The writers FINALLY got the pacing and writing correct, for the most part, during the Baker era and also the Davison era, leading to some of the best episodes in the entire show's history.

Then, along with JNT's ludicruos ideas, the BBC started to cut episodes, creating story arcs that were confusing, as most of the material needed for comprehension ended up on the cutting room floor. Episodes that should have been classics, such as Ghost Light and The Curse of Fenric, were often too confusing too follow, and often had guest stars crammed in solely for ratings purposes.

In the end, each Doctor has his merits. To pick a "favorite" doesn't do justice to the show.
 
2013-01-03 11:34:41 AM  

yves0010: cluNYC: [i379.photobucket.com image 596x442]

Didn't he continue to play the 8th Doctor on the radio and such. Sad that they did not continue with Doctor Who after his run. Movie was not that bad (had flaws but the story was entertaining).


Audio dramas.

Also, the BBC did an official full length flash animation version of Shada with McGann's 8th Doctor in the starring role (which will be out on DVD this Tuesday, along with Tom Baker's Shada and a documentary or 5).
 
2013-01-03 11:43:16 AM  
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2013-01-03 11:45:04 AM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: along with JNT's ludicruos idea


I think Baker 2 got so screwed by him. Baker could act, and a lot of what he brought to the character of the Doctor, that barely controlled rage and menace, ended up working its way back into NuWho. But with the budget cuts and terrible scripts, along with some confusion about how nasty the Doctor was supposed to be, his era ended up pretty awful. Still, there are bits of his run that show some decent promice.

On a related note, this is a nice trip down memory lane. This man's poor wife has seen more classic Who than most fans.
 
2013-01-03 11:48:24 AM  

fickenchucker: 'll buy that. Without the old-Who foundation we're having fun watching your one-word summations of the new guys. It just bugs me when people say Tennant is no good--he was incredible. Keep in mind they act what other guys write, and it felt right to them to explore the human-ness of #10's emotions for a while. Think of #10 as trying to let his emotional detachment grow and let his defenses down a little more than usual, and then getting burned in the process.

And then the Dr. bounced back with a little insanity bubbling below the surface with #11, which is great.


Tennant had some great stories. I think what bothered me was not his emotional side but his later series. When he was getting to emotional and loving himself way to much. The Doctor always had an emotional attachment to his companions, whether it was love of a family member, a love for a wife / girlfriend, or a best friend.

Tennant had some of my favorite NuWho stories too. But I just hated how he went out in a biatching blaze of emo (only way I can put it). Example: The Doctor's Daughter, I think, did the 10th justice with his emotions and his feelings. He was conflicted from his war time experiences has the 8th / 9th Doctor fighting in the Time War and watching his genetic Daughter born the same way his previous personality was.

The two stories that ruined the 10th for me was The Water of Mars, when he tried to become almost god like, and The End of Time when he was regenerating, though his whole I will do what it takes to stop The Master brought back the persona of the 9th Doctor.
 
2013-01-03 11:49:00 AM  
whizbangthedirtfarmer:

Then, along with JNT's ludicruos ideas, the BBC started to cut episodes, creating story arcs that were confusing, as most of the material needed for comprehension ended up on the cutting room floor. Episodes that should have been classics, such as Ghost Light and The Curse of Fenric, were often too confusing too follow, and often had guest stars crammed in solely for ratings purposes.


Some of the worst offenders are in the Sylvester McCoy era. You could literally pick out the various points where about an episode's worth of material was cut from Delta and the Bannermen... an episode's worth of material that was needed to make the damn show make sense!

And the music from that era... Keff McCulloch should never have been let near a Casio. I think it's Paradise Towers... the music is so horrible and Jokey, the serial is barely watchable. Thankfully, there's an alternate audio track on the DVDs allowing you to listen to the serial with the original score, and it makes the serial much better.

The extended cuts of Battlefield and Fenric also come off much better than the original versions.
 
2013-01-03 11:50:04 AM  

t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: along with JNT's ludicruos idea

I think Baker 2 got so screwed by him. Baker could act, and a lot of what he brought to the character of the Doctor, that barely controlled rage and menace, ended up working its way back into NuWho. But with the budget cuts and terrible scripts, along with some confusion about how nasty the Doctor was supposed to be, his era ended up pretty awful. Still, there are bits of his run that show some decent promice.

On a related note, this is a nice trip down memory lane. This man's poor wife has seen more classic Who than most fans.


Indeed. JNT's godawful decisions, including the outfit, screwed Baker. Add to that Baker's son dying of SIDs at the start of his run, and there was just no way he could have gained traction.
 
2013-01-03 11:50:47 AM  

The Stealth Hippopotamus: yves0010: I personally like Tom Baker for a few reasons.

Good call.

He was my first Doctor as well.  And you know what they say, you never forget your first.

I have to admit that I really like the new Who as well.

Matt Smith episodes have some of the best lines evar.


My brother and I used to watch BBC late at night together when I was little. So I watched Doctor Who, Red Dwarf and Monty Python all the time when I was allowed too (was like 10 years old). We always enjoyed the adventures of the 4th Doctor and I have since started watching his adventures on Netflix.

FirstNationalBastard: yves0010: cluNYC: [i379.photobucket.com image 596x442]

Didn't he continue to play the 8th Doctor on the radio and such. Sad that they did not continue with Doctor Who after his run. Movie was not that bad (had flaws but the story was entertaining).

Audio dramas.

Also, the BBC did an official full length flash animation version of Shada with McGann's 8th Doctor in the starring role (which will be out on DVD this Tuesday, along with Tom Baker's Shada and a documentary or 5).


Ill have to look into that now. I would like to know what happened to the 8th Doctor. I know little of him outside the movie.
 
2013-01-03 11:52:03 AM  

t3knomanser: whizbangthedirtfarmer: along with JNT's ludicruos idea

I think Baker 2 got so screwed by him. Baker could act, and a lot of what he brought to the character of the Doctor, that barely controlled rage and menace, ended up working its way back into NuWho. But with the budget cuts and terrible scripts, along with some confusion about how nasty the Doctor was supposed to be, his era ended up pretty awful. Still, there are bits of his run that show some decent promice.


Vengeance on Varos being the high point. In fact, the Sixth and Seventh Doctors wound up having a lot of their characterization adapted for Doctors 9-11. McCoy's tired old man bit who has seen it all was rolled into both Eccleston's and Smith's Doctors, his crafty, manipulative, fez wearing side was rolled into Smith, Baker 2's "I'll kill you as soon as look at you" attitude became Tennant's "No second chances"...
 
2013-01-03 11:53:13 AM  

yves0010: The two stories that ruined the 10th for me was The Water of Mars, when he tried to become almost god like


I thought that was what made that!  He tried to be a god and failed.  Couple that with all the good that came of his failing! Yeah people died and that was sad but they inspired so many.
 
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