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2013-01-03 08:49:49 AM
Exactly where did Chicken, waffles, and watermelon get the rap for being blacks-only foods?

Seriously, is there anyone in the US, white, black, Latino, or dirty Swede, that doesn't enjoy fried chicken, or a nice juicy watermelon?
 
2013-01-03 09:08:41 AM
c/s/b

I was in a hotel breakfast diner in Boise, ID, center of the red state universe.  In the room with me were 6 or 7 over 50 hotel guests having their sausages and eggs.  They all were watching FOX news.  My back was to the TV, eating a yogurt, reading my phone.  Might even have been Fark.

So FOX shows something on Obama and from my spot I can see the rage faces building up in all the retirees / vacationers.

Finally one of them blurts out LIAR at the TV and rage-quits the room.

I should have creeper-photoed it, this was back in June of last year, so probably something about the election.

Just sticks in my mind, a perfect microcosm of red state America.  7 angry old white people eating sausage and eggs glaring at FOX's presentation of Obama and responding to it.

c/s/b
 
2013-01-03 09:15:07 AM
Sometimes it's funny when Farkmins green headlines that are satirically racist or sexist or whatever.

This headline doesn't read as satirical. It's just plain racist. At least if it was funny it would have something going for it.
 
2013-01-03 09:21:18 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Exactly where did Chicken, waffles, and watermelon get the rap for being blacks-only foods?

Seriously, is there anyone in the US, white, black, Latino, or dirty Swede, that doesn't enjoy fried chicken, or a nice juicy watermelon?


I do enjoy fried chicken.

I'm not a fan of big, juicy melons though.

...that didn't come out right.
 
2013-01-03 09:56:48 AM
Hate speech is a difficult slippery slope.  One person's joke is another person's deliberate hate.
 
2013-01-03 10:07:03 AM
So who's the racist fark who submitted this?
 
2013-01-03 10:54:41 AM
Wow really? Mentioning chicken and waffles is the most racist thing? I love chicken and waffles.
 
2013-01-03 11:02:55 AM

LasersHurt: Wow really? Mentioning chicken and waffles is the most racist thing?


Yes, there are degrees of racism.  Anything below a 6/10 is always acceptable, and we're at about a 4.5.
 
2013-01-03 11:16:03 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Exactly where did Chicken, waffles, and watermelon get the rap for being blacks-only foods?

Seriously, is there anyone in the US, white, black, Latino, or dirty Swede, that doesn't enjoy fried chicken, or a nice juicy watermelon?


They are traditional Southern foods and as black folks streamed out of the south after the Civil war they brought those foods with them. That's also why Southern whites are so notoriously racist. They are culturally identical to blacks and so see them as direct competitors.
 
2013-01-03 11:16:03 AM
Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food staple 'chicken and waffles'.
 
2013-01-03 11:18:07 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Exactly where did Chicken, waffles, and watermelon get the rap for being blacks-only foods?

Seriously, is there anyone in the US, white, black, Latino, or dirty Swede, that doesn't enjoy fried chicken, or a nice juicy watermelon?


The idea was that if a black person could eat anything they wanted, they'd take chicken and watermelon, instead of pate foi gras or whatever. It feeds into the stereotype that blacks are ignorant of the outside world, and was used a lot during 'blackface' shows.
 
2013-01-03 11:18:17 AM
We have to cut spending! Except spending that benefits military contractors obviously; those cuts would destroy the economy.
 
2013-01-03 11:18:27 AM

vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food staple 'chicken and waffles'.


Fun fact: The Key and Peele Thomas Jefferson Ancestry.com commercial is an extremely funny bit.
 
2013-01-03 11:22:54 AM
That article seems to be missing something.... like details
 
2013-01-03 11:24:20 AM
If When the Republicans start farking the chicken, does that make Obama their pimp?
 
2013-01-03 11:27:52 AM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: FirstNationalBastard: Exactly where did Chicken, waffles, and watermelon get the rap for being blacks-only foods?

Seriously, is there anyone in the US, white, black, Latino, or dirty Swede, that doesn't enjoy fried chicken, or a nice juicy watermelon?

The idea was that if a black person could eat anything they wanted, they'd take chicken and watermelon, instead of pate foi gras or whatever. It feeds into the stereotype that blacks are ignorant of the outside world, and was used a lot during 'blackface' shows.


And the people who perpetuate this are well known to be worldly sophisticates
 
2013-01-03 11:29:52 AM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: FirstNationalBastard: Exactly where did Chicken, waffles, and watermelon get the rap for being blacks-only foods?

Seriously, is there anyone in the US, white, black, Latino, or dirty Swede, that doesn't enjoy fried chicken, or a nice juicy watermelon?

The idea was that if a black person could eat anything they wanted, they'd take chicken and watermelon, instead of pate foi gras or whatever. It feeds into the stereotype that blacks are ignorant of the outside world, and was used a lot during 'blackface' shows.


It's not just that. It' all about creating "the Other." Blacks are Other than Whites because Black people really, really, like watermelon and fried chicken, much more than say, normal, White, people. Same with sex. Everyone, Black, White and Yellow, loves sex. But Black people are abnormal about their love of sex. Because of this abnormal love of fried food and sex, Blacks are closer to animals than they are to real, White, human, people. And, if Black people are animals, it just makes sense that the White man controls everything, including their lives. Makes it a little harder to chuckle at the joke, doesn't it?
 
2013-01-03 11:32:03 AM

odinsposse: FirstNationalBastard: Exactly where did Chicken, waffles, and watermelon get the rap for being blacks-only foods?

Seriously, is there anyone in the US, white, black, Latino, or dirty Swede, that doesn't enjoy fried chicken, or a nice juicy watermelon?

They are traditional Southern foods and as black folks streamed out of the south after the Civil war they brought those foods with them. That's also why Southern whites are so notoriously racist. They are culturally identical to blacks and so see them as direct competitors.


Going back even further, slaves weren't permitted to keep pigs or cattle for themselves, but were, in some traditions, allowed to keep chickens to feed themselves with eggs and poultry. Due to a lack of proper cooking facilities present in the places where "the help" lived, boiling pots of scrap oil served to cook stuff just fine. Hence Fried Chicken.

It's not that black people love fried chicken. EVERYONE loves fried chicken. It's that for like... a hundred years... fried chicken was associated exclusively slavery *by* the slave owners. Which meant it was dirty, gross, low class, and beneath civilized society to eat it.

Which is why it carries ambiguous pejorative connotations these days.

Watermelon has a similar history. Chicken and waffles are just genius. That's like stereotyping jazz as "black music". Farkin right. And it is awesome. Good work black people. High five.
 
2013-01-03 11:33:37 AM
The US Military is a giant pork-laden, socialist government-works program and Republicans are scared to death of cutting it in any way.
Deep down they know that government works programs are actually quite effective but they tell the morans that vote for them otherwise.
They know republican voters are too stupid to see the military for what it is.
They know the Military is a bottomless pit for spending because, unlike a bridge or a community center or a school, the military's work is never "done."
Also, the dollars spent on the military can go to stock holders and executives of Haliburton and Raytheon and General Electric insteaad of to poor people.
 
2013-01-03 11:35:06 AM
I brought my lunch today, but I think I'll head to Thelma's in downtown Roanoke. I haven't had chicken and waffles in a while.
 
2013-01-03 11:35:45 AM
I was born far in the north, in the cold northern sometimes-frozen wastes. I have moved south, and as such have learned to enjoy local cultural traditions, such as the cuban sandwich & fried chicken and waffles.

Look, if it costs $663 bn dollars for some high quality chicken and waffles to be defended from those who would try to take our freedom of fried chicken and the liberty and security of our waffles, then so be it. All I ask is that Mr. Obama continue to allow our northern neighbors, Canada, to continue sending maple syrup relief supplies, for we are always dangerously low on that nectar of the gods.
 
2013-01-03 11:40:20 AM
Are you mocking the president's Belgian ancestry?
 
2013-01-03 11:50:42 AM
BBQ pulled pork on a corn bread waffle is better.
 
2013-01-03 11:59:03 AM
Doesn't get any better than this:

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2013-01-03 12:10:42 PM

L.D. Ablo: Doesn't get any better than this:

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Now I'm hungry. I may go to Roscoe's for lunch... I'll get the Obama Special, instead of my usual 'Carol C. Special'.
 
2013-01-03 12:15:16 PM

Generation_D: Hate speech is a difficult slippery slope.  One person's joke is another person's deliberate hate.


Don't believe it. Anyone who tells "jokes" with a heavily racial content knows damn well what they're doing. They''re just expressing their innate racism and trying to be sly about it because there are people present they're not sure of. Which shows they also know such things are no longer acceptable in the modern world. When they're among their fellow haters, of course, they stop telling "jokes" and simply spew.

My Irish railroader grandfather in Toledo used to tell "darkie" jokes. My mother would look pained but didn't feel comfortable about trying to make him stop. The first time he did it after I came home from college (circa 1962), I told him to knock it off or I was leaving. He had no idea that anyone could be offended by his supposed sense of humor.

I give my grandfather half a pass for being a product of his own time. But those days are past. Race jokes in the 21st century are a deliberate challenge to intelligence, education, and (as far as I'm concerned) civilization.
 
2013-01-03 12:15:34 PM
I can't figure out why Obama doesn't go after defense spending. It puts Republican members of Congress between a rock and a tea place. Just argue that it should go back to FY2000 levels, adjusted for inflation, and you get a 30% cut in the Pentagon budget. That's about $170 billion a year. Factoring in expected baseline increases and interest, you get about $2 trillion over ten years.

Sure, you couldn't make all of the cut at once - you need to wind some things down, pack up some bases, etc. But its easy money. Much of it is getting spent overseas, so the "hurt the economy" argument is blunted. Even then, moving troops from overseas bases back to the US brings payroll money home, so you're not inflicting a full dollar's worth of slowdown for every dollar cut. It is, in relative terms, easy money.

Let Republican deficit hawks explain why we're in so much more danger than we were in 2000. Meanwhile, Obama could be touting a cut that adds up to $1,000 per household. With no reduction in services, the only political pain would accrue to defense contractors, who last time I checked don't command that many votes at election time.
 
2013-01-03 12:24:21 PM

vernonFL: Fun Fact: Thomas Jefferson invented the soul food staple 'chicken and waffles'.


White people also enjoy swivel chairs.
 
2013-01-03 12:37:14 PM
From SE Oklahoma,

Not blah,

Have always said I'd make a perfect blah person, had chicken & waffles just the other day, always have watermelon in the fridge and I LOVE

Colt 45
 
2013-01-03 12:40:05 PM

MisterRonbo: I can't figure out why Obama doesn't go after defense spending. It puts Republican members of Congress between a rock and a tea place. Just argue that it should go back to FY2000 levels, adjusted for inflation, and you get a 30% cut in the Pentagon budget. That's about $170 billion a year. Factoring in expected baseline increases and interest, you get about $2 trillion over ten years.

Sure, you couldn't make all of the cut at once - you need to wind some things down, pack up some bases, etc. But its easy money. Much of it is getting spent overseas, so the "hurt the economy" argument is blunted. Even then, moving troops from overseas bases back to the US brings payroll money home, so you're not inflicting a full dollar's worth of slowdown for every dollar cut. It is, in relative terms, easy money.

Let Republican deficit hawks explain why we're in so much more danger than we were in 2000. Meanwhile, Obama could be touting a cut that adds up to $1,000 per household. With no reduction in services, the only political pain would accrue to defense contractors, who last time I checked don't command that many votes at election time.


Yeah but they command money and money buys ads and morons vote based on ads.
 
2013-01-03 12:42:43 PM
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, President Obama is just like you. He looooooves grape soda. He hates when they guy at the grocery store won't accept your "food stamps." He knows what it's like to wait all month for your "welfare check." HEEEEY! HOOOOO! HEEEEY! HOOOOO!

Thank you.

/I've got them eating out of my hand
 
2013-01-03 12:46:22 PM

Poopspasm: /I've got them eating out of my hand


Well played.
 
2013-01-03 12:56:17 PM

FirstNationalBastard: Exactly where did Chicken, waffles, and watermelon get the rap for being blacks-only foods?

Seriously, is there anyone in the US, white, black, Latino, or dirty Swede, that doesn't enjoy fried chicken, or a nice juicy watermelon?


Fried chicken and watermelon was always the 4th of July meal for my family.
 
2013-01-03 12:58:38 PM

GAT_00: LasersHurt: Wow really? Mentioning chicken and waffles is the most racist thing?

Yes, there are degrees of racism.  Anything below a 6/10 is always acceptable, and we're at about a 4.5.


I simplified to see what you did there.
 
2013-01-03 01:17:03 PM
Just because something is a joke doesn't make it non-racist. Subby knows what he did, and whoever greened this should be kicked in the nuts.
 
2013-01-03 03:39:35 PM

mksmith: Generation_D: Hate speech is a difficult slippery slope.  One person's joke is another person's deliberate hate.

Don't believe it. Anyone who tells "jokes" with a heavily racial content knows damn well what they're doing. They''re just expressing their innate racism and trying to be sly about it because there are people present they're not sure of. Which shows they also know such things are no longer acceptable in the modern world. When they're among their fellow haters, of course, they stop telling "jokes" and simply spew.

My Irish railroader grandfather in Toledo used to tell "darkie" jokes. My mother would look pained but didn't feel comfortable about trying to make him stop. The first time he did it after I came home from college (circa 1962), I told him to knock it off or I was leaving. He had no idea that anyone could be offended by his supposed sense of humor.

I give my grandfather half a pass for being a product of his own time. But those days are past. Race jokes in the 21st century are a deliberate challenge to intelligence, education, and (as far as I'm concerned) civilization.


Does not matter. Free speech means you do not have a right to be not offended. People are entitled to their stupid behavior as long as it is not done with tax dollars or does not go beyond hurting feelings -suck it up.

I would rather put up with some ignorant behavior and hurt feelings than give government even more power to define acceptable free speech.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-01-03 03:41:13 PM

MacEnvy: Sometimes it's funny when Farkmins green headlines that are satirically racist or sexist or whatever. This headline doesn't read as satirical. It's just plain racist. At least if it was funny it would have something going for it.


Considering that the source is Fox News, I'm willing to bet that the submitter is channeling the website's greatest hits (read: "Obama's Hip-Hop BBQ," among others) simply to draw to the point that the corporation is only writing this story because they have nothing else to show for it. We know that it is Fox's modus operandi, and submitter appears to be playing off of conservatives' many fears. Conservatives are, after all, more racist than seven crackers cracking twelve whips.

/turbocracker
 
2013-01-03 04:33:50 PM

Poopspasm: Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, President Obama is just like you. He looooooves grape soda. He hates when they guy at the grocery store won't accept your "food stamps." He knows what it's like to wait all month for your "welfare check." HEEEEY! HOOOOO! HEEEEY! HOOOOO!

Thank you.

/I've got them eating out of my hand


Now all we need is BIG AMERICAN PARTY

/and maybe a lesson from Charles Barkley
 
2013-01-03 06:09:41 PM
Chicken is good. Waffles are good. Chicken-and-waffles is stupid.
 
2013-01-03 08:44:13 PM

MisterRonbo: I can't figure out why Obama doesn't go after defense spending. It puts Republican members of Congress between a rock and a tea place. Just argue that it should go back to FY2000 levels, adjusted for inflation, and you get a 30% cut in the Pentagon budget. That's about $170 billion a year. Factoring in expected baseline increases and interest, you get about $2 trillion over ten years.

Sure, you couldn't make all of the cut at once - you need to wind some things down, pack up some bases, etc. But its easy money. Much of it is getting spent overseas, so the "hurt the economy" argument is blunted. Even then, moving troops from overseas bases back to the US brings payroll money home, so you're not inflicting a full dollar's worth of slowdown for every dollar cut. It is, in relative terms, easy money.

Let Republican deficit hawks explain why we're in so much more danger than we were in 2000. Meanwhile, Obama could be touting a cut that adds up to $1,000 per household. With no reduction in services, the only political pain would accrue to defense contractors, who last time I checked don't command that many votes at election time.


Pretty simple, actually. Every single major defense contractor (even foreign companies like BAE) intentionally has operations in practically every state in the union. Should a Congressman or Rep even hint that he/she might support a reduction in the "Defense" budget, there would be a line of lobbyists waiting outside their Chamber warning them of the thousands of jobs their district/state would lose should they have to "move operations elsewhere."

Blast the airwaves with "Congressperson So-and-So cost me my job!!!" ads, restock next election cycle.

I fully agree with your assertions though.
 
2013-01-03 09:04:15 PM

TofuTheAlmighty: We have to cut spending! Except spending that benefits military contractors obviously; those cuts would destroy the economy.


Here in the DC metro area, NoVa defense contractors are some of the Teabaggiest people around. Most of them have been sucking at the government teat their entire lives, first as military men and then double-dippin' their pensions and benefits. They'll be the first to scream bloody murder about Those Moochers.
 
2013-01-03 11:45:26 PM

L.D. Ablo: Doesn't get any better than this:

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CHICKEN WAFFLES?
 
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