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2013-01-03 01:53:03 AM
5 votes:

hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?


Did you fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?
2013-01-02 11:27:20 PM
5 votes:
And people wanna take guns away from these idiots? How the hell else are we gonna get rid of them?
2013-01-03 01:52:52 AM
4 votes:

hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?


Lanza, Laughner, Sideshow Bob, the Columbine killers are all white.
2013-01-03 01:26:29 AM
4 votes:

Snargi: Even drunk, I check to see of the piece is unloaded, or at least unchambered, before I do stupid stuff with it.


I refuse to touch any firearm (unless secured entirely within a case, and only if moving the cased firearm to a secure location) within six hours of consuming any alcoholic beverage.

I apply the same self-restriction to operation of a motor vehicle.
2013-01-03 12:37:06 AM
4 votes:
Why was the headline changed to not the actual headline?
2013-01-03 12:06:57 AM
4 votes:
And little of value was lost.
2013-01-03 01:40:08 AM
3 votes:
Last weekend, my brother-in-law gave me a custom concealed holster for christmas, but we had to bake the kydex and form it around my pistol. I had unloaded it, but when he asked if it was unloaded, I told him not to take my word for it and check. It's the only way to be sure. In fact, I only go to gun stores that check every gun every time before they hand it to a customer.

There is a responsible way to own guns.
2013-01-03 01:33:33 AM
3 votes:
i.dailymail.co.uk


You ever wonder why the Phoenix sheriff acts like he does?
2013-01-03 03:20:08 AM
2 votes:
img541.imageshack.us

I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that this family hasn't gone through a safety course.
2013-01-03 02:07:05 AM
2 votes:

hundreddollarman: Serious Black: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Did you fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?

Did you fall into the sandpit of naivete?


If you're going to make a bold claim like black people are too stupid or irresponsible to safely own guns, you better have some strong evidence to back up your claim. So far, you've provided none.
2013-01-03 01:54:30 AM
2 votes:

degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.


And never, even if it's funny, point it at anything you do not wish to completely destroy.
2013-01-03 01:53:48 AM
2 votes:
This is why I always squeeze the trigger of an unloaded gun while aimed at someone else before I do it to myself.
2013-01-03 01:48:41 AM
2 votes:
2.bp.blogspot.com

They shared genetic material. It still counts.
2013-01-03 01:46:51 AM
2 votes:

ZAZ: A 19-year-old woman accidentally negligently shot dead her brother while posing with a gun for Facebook photos on New Year's Eve.


/fixed that for the author
2013-01-03 01:25:22 AM
2 votes:
She stood her ground.
2013-01-03 01:18:07 AM
2 votes:
Cause nothing says you're from the streets like posting on Facebook.
2013-01-03 01:16:33 AM
2 votes:

degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?


The gun is always loaded.
2013-01-03 01:12:42 AM
2 votes:
I bet the brother would still be alive if he had a gun.
2013-01-03 12:54:31 AM
2 votes:
www.firstartsource.com
2013-01-03 12:40:05 AM
2 votes:

Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.


Indeed. If people just kept to the philosophy that there is no such thing as an unloaded gun and treat their guns accordingly, this kind of crap wouldn't happen.

Every time a story like this comes up, I hate how they are called accidents. Since the answer to these three questions is almost certainly "yes", it should be classified as some form of homicide (at least manslaughter, if not some degree of murder) and prosecuted accordingly: was the gun loaded? was the gun pointed at the victim? was the shooter's finger on the trigger?

Given the basic rules of firearms safety, answering yes to those questions should show intent, IMNSHO, even though what it usually shows is stupidity and ignorance.

From TFA: Phoenix Police Sgt Steve Martos said the victim's sister would likely be charged with manslaughter if tests conclude she had alcohol in her system.

Screw that. She should be charged with manslaughter anyway.
2013-01-03 12:19:41 AM
2 votes:
The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.
2013-01-02 10:24:04 PM
2 votes:
Not very sporting. Shooting your live brother in the head is much more difficult.
2013-01-02 10:10:12 PM
2 votes:
I now understand why that website is referred to as the "Daily Fail."
2013-01-03 01:01:42 PM
1 votes:
i.imgur.com
2013-01-03 10:25:10 AM
1 votes:
If, as a society, we continue to have firearms as available and common as they currently are, we need to make firearm safety classes mandatory in schools.
2013-01-03 09:48:56 AM
1 votes:
i.dailymail.co.uk

Judging by the picture, this was bound to happen eventually anyways...
2013-01-03 09:38:19 AM
1 votes:

Artisan Sandwich: Whenever I handle a firearm, before even making eye contact with it (?), I boil my hands to ensure that there is no gunpowder rsidue on them. I then do a GSR test, and if it's positive I call the police on myself. If I pass, I get my reaching sticks and- over the course of a few hours- completely disassemble the weapon. I am always sure to keep each individual piece at least 12" from another so as not to encourage a negligent discharge from occuring. Lastly, in order to be completely safe, I melt the weapon down and turn it into either wind chimes or spinner rims. If you do less than that, if your safety standard is so low that you would actually handle a weapon, I know that one day you will shoot yourself in the head. I bet this guy didn't even do ONE pre-boil.


Good call, people should be mocked for taking extra caution when handling a deadly weapon. He checks his weapons to make sure there isn't debris in the chamber which could cause a backfire, what a nancy!
2013-01-03 09:33:13 AM
1 votes:

ParaHandy: If only she had shot an unarmed black kid, then the whole Fark gun nut brigade would be white knighting her.

Looks like the world has one less Zimmerman, go Darwin!


Um....we are white knighting her. She's the awesome. The only thing she could have done better is to somehow have shot herself at the same time. Pretty sure her brother wasn't a neighborhood watch volunteer though...that was kind of weird. You crazy.
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-03 08:43:33 AM
1 votes:

liam76: Quasar: And little nothing of value was lost.

FTFY


While I feel sorry for the kid's parents, this is OH so true.
2013-01-03 08:39:42 AM
1 votes:
1.bp.blogspot.com
2013-01-03 08:37:29 AM
1 votes:

david_gaithersburg: Dude, seek help, and some reading courses probably wouldn't hurt either.


Your initial post was an attack on Obama and while you didn't come right out and say anything racist we all know what "Obama Voter" means to the right. Take your dog whistles cram 'em up your arse.

However there were MANY other overtly racist comments so I think my reading skills are just fine. As far as my mental health... well at least I'm not a blithering xenophobic troll who sh*ts on Fark threads day in and day out so at least I've got that going for me.
2013-01-03 07:08:17 AM
1 votes:

orbister: iron_city_ap: Never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot

The gun must always be pointing at something, surely?


Should probably be worded as "something that you aren't OK with getting shot" for full logical correctness, but one of the other lessons of gun safety is that if you're carrying the gun, you are responsible for anything the gun does. There aren't "accidents" and "the gun" doesn't do anything, if you're carrying a weapon and a bullet goes from it to somewhere a bullet's not supposed to go, it is your fault.

So the clauses are intentionally worded in the active voice to impress this on the listener.

//Rhetoric 101 for ya, there.
2013-01-03 06:44:36 AM
1 votes:
Definitely a good stroke on the side of "gun safety class for everyone in school, once a year, no exceptions". Gun-haters learn how to avoid shooting through schools if they trip on a gun, kids who will be exposed to guns more regularly will learn the basics "don't do this" kind of stuff. It's be a cheap hour or so, and afterward at least some of these accidental discharges could be prevented. We live with that many guns, it's just good common sense. Not that I'm asking for a return of nation-wide high school gun clubs (though it wouldn't hurt), but educating kids on gun safety from a young age, and reinforcing it annually, has to make sense on an intuitive level.
2013-01-03 04:48:43 AM
1 votes:
Magazine disconnects would be great if all magazines were perfect and they didn't sometimes make your gun not work even though you put the mag in. 'Oh, sorry Mr Rapist, just give me a second to reseat this magazine and I'll be right with you.'
2013-01-03 04:18:45 AM
1 votes:

Serious Black: fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]

I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.



It doesn't matter. The gun is still loaded.
2013-01-03 03:45:12 AM
1 votes:

Lsherm: Serious Black: fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]

I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.

Yeah, it's the 100 million before those you have to worry about.


and just when you think it's fool proof because a gun won't fire with the magazine out your brother's gun doesn't have that feature
2013-01-03 02:42:44 AM
1 votes:

gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.


True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

www.browning.com
2013-01-03 02:38:07 AM
1 votes:
1/Handling firearm while drinking
2/point loaded firearm at someone's head
3/pull the trigger.

Where is the accident ?
2013-01-03 02:29:04 AM
1 votes:

ZAZ: A 19-year-old woman accidentally shot dead her brother while posing with a gun for Facebook photos on New Year's Eve.

In Massachusetts on New Year's Eve two best friends decided to settle an argument. Which is faster, drawing a gun or a knife? The gun won.


2.bp.blogspot.com

It clearly wasn't against him.
2013-01-03 02:21:35 AM
1 votes:
Does anyone know their facebook id, so I can click "like"?
2013-01-03 02:08:47 AM
1 votes:
YOLOhnooooo...
2013-01-03 02:05:14 AM
1 votes:

wallywam1: I think it's actually a good Darwin candidate. When drunk people start pointing guns at their heads it's time to leave, not to time to hang around and pose for pictures with them.


The brother deserves one, no question. The sister isn't eligible, but as I said, she might deserve an honorable mention for at least getting rid of similar genes if not her own.
2013-01-03 01:58:55 AM
1 votes:

degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.


I don't care if I checked it a hundred times, I still wouldn't point it at my head. But yeah, that was a big FAIL.
2013-01-03 01:49:20 AM
1 votes:

Plant Rights Activist: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

when isn't it considered loaded?


Do you disassemble loaded weapons for cleaning?
2013-01-03 01:47:51 AM
1 votes:

hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?


When, exactly, did "more minorities" begin purchasing firearms?
2013-01-03 01:46:28 AM
1 votes:

super_grass: And nothing of value was lost.

2013-01-03 01:42:17 AM
1 votes:

JonZoidberg: In fact, I only go to gun stores that check every gun every time before they hand it to a customer.


Same here, and after they hand it to me, I check it again myself, every time.
2013-01-03 01:42:04 AM
1 votes:

aerojockey: Kimothy: Is it still Darwin-award worthy if the shooter doesn't die?

Not eligible for Darwin award, no, but a case could be made that this does help human evolution.  She prevented her brother from reproducing, and her brother shares some of her DNA, so she did, indirectly, prevent similar DNA to hers from being passed on.  So no Darwin award but she might deserve an honorable mention.


I think it's actually a good Darwin candidate. When drunk people start pointing guns at their heads it's time to leave, not to time to hang around and pose for pictures with them.
2013-01-03 01:39:31 AM
1 votes:

the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.


We should regulate our militia better.

Or at all.
2013-01-03 01:34:14 AM
1 votes:
FTFA: "Savannah Ramirez, right, shot her brother Manuel, left, accidentally in the head on New Year's Eve when posing for a picture with a gun for facebook"

The very next line: "Scene: Police said 22-year-old Ortiz and his sister, who has not been named, arrived back at the home they shared on New Year's Eve after spending the night drinking."

Good job maintaining confidentially, DM!
2013-01-03 01:29:11 AM
1 votes:
Guns dont kill people. Sisters kill people.
2013-01-03 01:28:02 AM
1 votes:
This wouldn't have happened if there had been an armed guard at their apartment. I propose we spend eleventy jillion dollars putting an armed guard in every apartment.
2013-01-03 01:26:40 AM
1 votes:
If only she held the gun at facebook angle..
2013-01-03 01:24:16 AM
1 votes:

the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.


/ always treat the gun as loaded
// never point it at something you don't want to destroy

I don't even own any, but that just comes across as common sense. Love going shooting when invited.
2013-01-03 01:19:15 AM
1 votes:
Same thing could have happened if they were posing with a knife, or fist.
2013-01-03 01:18:12 AM
1 votes:

the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.


Plus the lack of muzzle discipline. Never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot and don't put your finger on the trigger till you are ready to shoot. And always treat a gun as if its loaded. Simple common sense.
2013-01-03 01:17:30 AM
1 votes:

degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?


when isn't it considered loaded?
2013-01-03 01:17:20 AM
1 votes:
BAN FACEBOOK!
2013-01-03 01:10:56 AM
1 votes:
Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.
2013-01-03 12:54:06 AM
1 votes:
It's a shame they didn't have any pictures of the girl in TFA, but I loved the one where the wannabe cholo posed next to one of the other guys with the gun to HIS OWN HEAD and his finger on the trigger.
2013-01-03 12:07:55 AM
1 votes:
Now is not the time to talk about Facebook control.


farkingismybusiness: [i.imgur.com image 756x960]
Straight up gangsta.


Damn. I wonder if he can even get one of those fat sausages through the trigger guard.
2013-01-02 10:30:20 PM
1 votes:
Thank God she didn't shoot her live brother in the head.
2013-01-02 10:25:22 PM
1 votes:
Dead relatives do make excellent backstops

/if you happen to have one lying around
2013-01-02 10:25:11 PM
1 votes:
he was only mostly dead
2013-01-02 10:22:15 PM
1 votes:
I'm going to go ahead and be judgmental here....meh.
 
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