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2013-01-02 10:10:12 PM
I now understand why that website is referred to as the "Daily Fail."
 
2013-01-02 10:13:35 PM
Is it still Darwin-award worthy if the shooter doesn't die?
 
2013-01-02 10:18:01 PM

Kimothy: Is it still Darwin-award worthy if the shooter doesn't die?


No. you don't have to die either. Just lose the ability to reproduce.
 
2013-01-02 10:22:15 PM
I'm going to go ahead and be judgmental here....meh.
 
2013-01-02 10:24:04 PM
Not very sporting. Shooting your live brother in the head is much more difficult.
 
2013-01-02 10:25:11 PM
he was only mostly dead
 
2013-01-02 10:25:22 PM
Dead relatives do make excellent backstops

/if you happen to have one lying around
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-02 10:27:00 PM
A 19-year-old woman accidentally shot dead her brother while posing with a gun for Facebook photos on New Year's Eve.

In Massachusetts on New Year's Eve two best friends decided to settle an argument. Which is faster, drawing a gun or a knife? The gun won.
 
2013-01-02 10:30:20 PM
Thank God she didn't shoot her live brother in the head.
 
2013-01-02 10:31:16 PM
i.imgur.com
Straight up gangsta.
 
2013-01-02 11:27:20 PM
And people wanna take guns away from these idiots? How the hell else are we gonna get rid of them?
 
2013-01-03 12:01:04 AM
This just had to happen in Phoenix, didn't it?
 
2013-01-03 12:06:57 AM
And little of value was lost.
 
2013-01-03 12:07:55 AM
Now is not the time to talk about Facebook control.


farkingismybusiness: [i.imgur.com image 756x960]
Straight up gangsta.


Damn. I wonder if he can even get one of those fat sausages through the trigger guard.
 
2013-01-03 12:19:41 AM
The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.
 
2013-01-03 12:37:06 AM
Why was the headline changed to not the actual headline?
 
2013-01-03 12:40:05 AM

Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.


Indeed. If people just kept to the philosophy that there is no such thing as an unloaded gun and treat their guns accordingly, this kind of crap wouldn't happen.

Every time a story like this comes up, I hate how they are called accidents. Since the answer to these three questions is almost certainly "yes", it should be classified as some form of homicide (at least manslaughter, if not some degree of murder) and prosecuted accordingly: was the gun loaded? was the gun pointed at the victim? was the shooter's finger on the trigger?

Given the basic rules of firearms safety, answering yes to those questions should show intent, IMNSHO, even though what it usually shows is stupidity and ignorance.

From TFA: Phoenix Police Sgt Steve Martos said the victim's sister would likely be charged with manslaughter if tests conclude she had alcohol in her system.

Screw that. She should be charged with manslaughter anyway.
 
2013-01-03 12:54:06 AM
It's a shame they didn't have any pictures of the girl in TFA, but I loved the one where the wannabe cholo posed next to one of the other guys with the gun to HIS OWN HEAD and his finger on the trigger.
 
2013-01-03 12:54:31 AM
www.firstartsource.com
 
2013-01-03 01:10:56 AM
Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.
 
2013-01-03 01:12:36 AM

the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.


Why was the gun even loaded?
 
2013-01-03 01:12:42 AM
I bet the brother would still be alive if he had a gun.
 
2013-01-03 01:14:27 AM
If she can get four more, she can get the DEVGRU skin for that pistol!

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-01-03 01:16:15 AM
"Daily Mail"
"'Gangsta' idiocy"
"Mishandling firearms"
"Facebook"

And nothing of value was lost.
 
2013-01-03 01:16:16 AM

degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?


They're all loaded.
 
2013-01-03 01:16:29 AM

HotWingAgenda: It's a shame they didn't have any pictures of the girl in TFA, but I loved the one where the wannabe cholo posed next to one of the other guys with the gun to HIS OWN HEAD and his finger on the trigger.


i.dailymail.co.uk

There was one, but hard to tell.
 
2013-01-03 01:16:33 AM

degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?


The gun is always loaded.
 
2013-01-03 01:17:15 AM

wallywam1: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

The gun is always loaded.


Too slow.
 
2013-01-03 01:17:20 AM
BAN FACEBOOK!
 
2013-01-03 01:17:30 AM

degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?


when isn't it considered loaded?
 
2013-01-03 01:18:07 AM
Cause nothing says you're from the streets like posting on Facebook.
 
2013-01-03 01:18:12 AM

the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.


Plus the lack of muzzle discipline. Never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot and don't put your finger on the trigger till you are ready to shoot. And always treat a gun as if its loaded. Simple common sense.
 
2013-01-03 01:19:03 AM
Instead of a candle light vigil I will pour a little of forty out for him.
 
2013-01-03 01:19:08 AM
I got a great idea for the next fark party!
 
2013-01-03 01:19:14 AM

SlagginOff: I bet the brother would still be alive if he had a gun.


This.

Avoiding these situations is impossible for anyone. The only option is to shoot back.
 
2013-01-03 01:19:15 AM
Same thing could have happened if they were posing with a knife, or fist.
 
2013-01-03 01:19:36 AM

the_chief:
They're all loaded.

wallywam1:
The gun is always loaded.


curse these fat fingers
 
2013-01-03 01:21:30 AM
Plant Rights Activist: the_chief:
They're all loaded.
wallywam1:
The gun is always loaded.

curse these fat fingers


would you like magic dialing wand?
 
2013-01-03 01:24:07 AM
Even drunk, I check to see of the piece is unloaded, or at least unchambered, before I do stupid stuff with it.
 
2013-01-03 01:24:16 AM

the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.


/ always treat the gun as loaded
// never point it at something you don't want to destroy

I don't even own any, but that just comes across as common sense. Love going shooting when invited.
 
2013-01-03 01:24:17 AM
They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.
Tip: Russian Roulette with a semi-auto is not a good plan for the first guy in line.
 
2013-01-03 01:25:22 AM
She stood her ground.
 
2013-01-03 01:26:14 AM
Cholo?  More like Cho-NO!
 
2013-01-03 01:26:29 AM

Snargi: Even drunk, I check to see of the piece is unloaded, or at least unchambered, before I do stupid stuff with it.


I refuse to touch any firearm (unless secured entirely within a case, and only if moving the cased firearm to a secure location) within six hours of consuming any alcoholic beverage.

I apply the same self-restriction to operation of a motor vehicle.
 
2013-01-03 01:26:40 AM
If only she held the gun at facebook angle..
 
2013-01-03 01:28:02 AM
This wouldn't have happened if there had been an armed guard at their apartment. I propose we spend eleventy jillion dollars putting an armed guard in every apartment.
 
2013-01-03 01:28:10 AM
Dead gang banger? Good riddance.
 
2013-01-03 01:28:42 AM

mamoru: Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.

Indeed. If people just kept to the philosophy that there is no such thing as an unloaded gun and treat their guns accordingly, this kind of crap wouldn't happen.

Every time a story like this comes up, I hate how they are called accidents. Since the answer to these three questions is almost certainly "yes", it should be classified as some form of homicide (at least manslaughter, if not some degree of murder) and prosecuted accordingly: was the gun loaded? was the gun pointed at the victim? was the shooter's finger on the trigger?

Given the basic rules of firearms safety, answering yes to those questions should show intent, IMNSHO, even though what it usually shows is stupidity and ignorance.

From TFA: Phoenix Police Sgt Steve Martos said the victim's sister would likely be charged with manslaughter if tests conclude she had alcohol in her system.

Screw that. She should be charged with manslaughter anyway.


Probably the inference is that if there wasn't alcohol in her system she can't be charged, since there wouldn't have been enough fluid circulating to keep her brain functioning.
 
2013-01-03 01:29:11 AM
Guns dont kill people. Sisters kill people.
 
2013-01-03 01:29:37 AM
One look at those pictures....give them some more ammo! More chlorine for their gene pool!
 
2013-01-03 01:30:16 AM
assets.bizjournals.com
 
2013-01-03 01:32:40 AM

Kimothy: Is it still Darwin-award worthy if the shooter doesn't die?


Not eligible for Darwin award, no, but a case could be made that this does help human evolution.  She prevented her brother from reproducing, and her brother shares some of her DNA, so she did, indirectly, prevent similar DNA to hers from being passed on.  So no Darwin award but she might deserve an honorable mention.
 
2013-01-03 01:33:33 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk


You ever wonder why the Phoenix sheriff acts like he does?
 
2013-01-03 01:34:14 AM
FTFA: "Savannah Ramirez, right, shot her brother Manuel, left, accidentally in the head on New Year's Eve when posing for a picture with a gun for facebook"

The very next line: "Scene: Police said 22-year-old Ortiz and his sister, who has not been named, arrived back at the home they shared on New Year's Eve after spending the night drinking."

Good job maintaining confidentially, DM!
 
2013-01-03 01:34:24 AM

gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.
Tip: Russian Roulette with a semi-auto is not a good plan for the first guy in line.


My grandmother learned that the hard way. Spent some time in the backyard with her Glock (a real Glock, not a a journalist Glock), fired off her 15, and ejected the magazine. Then when she put the pistol in the case, it went discharged the round in the chamber and put a lovely hole in the wall.

And is it Polish Roulette with a sem-auto? Or is that where you put 5 rounds in a revolver?
 
2013-01-03 01:37:32 AM
What? Where the "Boom! Headshot" guy?
 
2013-01-03 01:37:53 AM

DarthBart: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.
Tip: Russian Roulette with a semi-auto is not a good plan for the first guy in line.

My grandmother learned that the hard way. Spent some time in the backyard with her Glock (a real Glock, not a a journalist Glock), fired off her 15, and ejected the magazine. Then when she put the pistol in the case, it went discharged the round in the chamber and put a lovely hole in the wall.

And is it Polish Roulette with a sem-auto? Or is that where you put 5 rounds in a revolver?


It would be when you put one round in the revolver...but it misfires so you look down the barrel to see why and then pull the trigger again.
 
2013-01-03 01:39:31 AM

the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.


We should regulate our militia better.

Or at all.
 
2013-01-03 01:40:08 AM
Last weekend, my brother-in-law gave me a custom concealed holster for christmas, but we had to bake the kydex and form it around my pistol. I had unloaded it, but when he asked if it was unloaded, I told him not to take my word for it and check. It's the only way to be sure. In fact, I only go to gun stores that check every gun every time before they hand it to a customer.

There is a responsible way to own guns.
 
2013-01-03 01:40:32 AM

BronyMedic: If she can get four more, she can get the DEVGRU skin for that pistol!


I just got the gold for the SMAW rocket launcher. That's right, gold.
 
2013-01-03 01:41:17 AM
[boomheadshot.gif]
 
2013-01-03 01:42:04 AM

aerojockey: Kimothy: Is it still Darwin-award worthy if the shooter doesn't die?

Not eligible for Darwin award, no, but a case could be made that this does help human evolution.  She prevented her brother from reproducing, and her brother shares some of her DNA, so she did, indirectly, prevent similar DNA to hers from being passed on.  So no Darwin award but she might deserve an honorable mention.


I think it's actually a good Darwin candidate. When drunk people start pointing guns at their heads it's time to leave, not to time to hang around and pose for pictures with them.
 
2013-01-03 01:42:17 AM

JonZoidberg: In fact, I only go to gun stores that check every gun every time before they hand it to a customer.


Same here, and after they hand it to me, I check it again myself, every time.
 
2013-01-03 01:43:54 AM
Just another Obama supporter with a gun, I'm OK with this!
 
2013-01-03 01:46:28 AM

super_grass: And nothing of value was lost.

 
2013-01-03 01:46:29 AM
Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?
 
2013-01-03 01:46:51 AM

ZAZ: A 19-year-old woman accidentally negligently shot dead her brother while posing with a gun for Facebook photos on New Year's Eve.


/fixed that for the author
 
2013-01-03 01:47:51 AM

hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?


When, exactly, did "more minorities" begin purchasing firearms?
 
2013-01-03 01:48:12 AM
Whoopsiedoodle.
 
2013-01-03 01:48:41 AM
2.bp.blogspot.com

They shared genetic material. It still counts.
 
2013-01-03 01:49:20 AM

Plant Rights Activist: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

when isn't it considered loaded?


Do you disassemble loaded weapons for cleaning?
 
2013-01-03 01:49:41 AM

the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.


I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.
 
2013-01-03 01:52:52 AM

hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?


Lanza, Laughner, Sideshow Bob, the Columbine killers are all white.
 
2013-01-03 01:53:03 AM

hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?


Did you fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?
 
2013-01-03 01:53:48 AM
This is why I always squeeze the trigger of an unloaded gun while aimed at someone else before I do it to myself.
 
2013-01-03 01:54:30 AM

degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.


And never, even if it's funny, point it at anything you do not wish to completely destroy.
 
2013-01-03 01:54:41 AM

Soymilk: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Lanza, Laughner, Sideshow Bob, the Columbine killers are all white.


See: Oakland, Calif.; Chicago, Ill.; Washington, D.C.; Los Angeles, Calif.; Detroit, Mich. ... Should I go on?
 
2013-01-03 01:56:07 AM

Serious Black: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Did you fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?


Did you fall into the sandpit of naivete?
 
2013-01-03 01:57:03 AM
Did she blink? 'Cause that's a mandatory do-over.
 
2013-01-03 01:58:55 AM

degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.


I don't care if I checked it a hundred times, I still wouldn't point it at my head. But yeah, that was a big FAIL.
 
2013-01-03 02:00:42 AM

degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.


I have a feeling the girl didn't know how to check the gun. Pulling the trigger is easy to figure out, popping out the magazine and opening the chamber is a little less intuitive.
 
2013-01-03 02:02:59 AM
Dumb people + guns + booze + facebook + dumb people

America is screwed.
 
2013-01-03 02:05:14 AM

wallywam1: I think it's actually a good Darwin candidate. When drunk people start pointing guns at their heads it's time to leave, not to time to hang around and pose for pictures with them.


The brother deserves one, no question. The sister isn't eligible, but as I said, she might deserve an honorable mention for at least getting rid of similar genes if not her own.
 
2013-01-03 02:05:24 AM
I can't believe y'all haven't made more of the headline...
"She shot her dead brother."
Best thing I've seen in awhile. I;m a terrible person.
 
2013-01-03 02:05:36 AM
i.dailymail.co.ukimages.thetruthaboutcars.com
 
2013-01-03 02:07:05 AM

hundreddollarman: Serious Black: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Did you fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?

Did you fall into the sandpit of naivete?


If you're going to make a bold claim like black people are too stupid or irresponsible to safely own guns, you better have some strong evidence to back up your claim. So far, you've provided none.
 
2013-01-03 02:07:14 AM

wallywam1: degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.

I don't care if I checked it a hundred times, I still wouldn't point it at my head. But yeah, that was a big FAIL.


Well, how do you take the "Shotgun!" rip off of that joint then, brainiac?
 
2013-01-03 02:08:11 AM
Meximorons

Como Meheekanos no hay dos, de pendejos...
 
2013-01-03 02:08:19 AM

wallywam1: degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.

I don't care if I checked it a hundred times, I still wouldn't point it at my head. But yeah, that was a big FAIL.


Are you kidding? A person who would pose like that is a person who would only do it because the gun is loaded. You don't get no street cred posing with an unloaded gun. Then you're just a poser who's afraid to die.
 
2013-01-03 02:08:47 AM
YOLOhnooooo...
 
2013-01-03 02:09:10 AM

TwistedIvory: This just had to happen in Phoenix, didn't it?


WESTSIIIIIIIIIIIDE!!!
 
2013-01-03 02:09:58 AM
Too bad he won't be able to see the Raiders in the playoffs this season.
 
2013-01-03 02:10:28 AM

Serious Black: hundreddollarman: Serious Black: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Did you fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?

Did you fall into the sandpit of naivete?

If you're going to make a bold claim like black people are too stupid or irresponsible to safely own guns, you better have some strong evidence to back up your claim. So far, you've provided none.


hundreddollarman: Soymilk: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Lanza, Laughner, Sideshow Bob, the Columbine killers are all white.

See: Oakland, Calif.; Chicago, Ill.; Washington, D.C.; Los Angeles, Calif.; Detroit, Mich. ... Should I go on?


You should try reading next time.
 
2013-01-03 02:11:47 AM

R.A.Danny: And people wanna take guns away from these idiots? How the hell else are we gonna get rid of them?


I was wondering this too. I don't want them on the roads that is for sure.
 
2013-01-03 02:13:41 AM

The_Sponge: Too bad he won't be able to see the Raiders in the playoffs this season.



Of course, that joke would have worked better if this had taken place in Oakland or L.A.

/Meh.
 
2013-01-03 02:15:31 AM
They say "sister", but I'm just wondering in what way "sister" is being used? Are they really related?
 
2013-01-03 02:15:40 AM

hundreddollarman: Serious Black: hundreddollarman: Serious Black: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Did you fall out of the stupid tree and hit every branch on the way down?

Did you fall into the sandpit of naivete?

If you're going to make a bold claim like black people are too stupid or irresponsible to safely own guns, you better have some strong evidence to back up your claim. So far, you've provided none.

hundreddollarman: Soymilk: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Lanza, Laughner, Sideshow Bob, the Columbine killers are all white.

See: Oakland, Calif.; Chicago, Ill.; Washington, D.C.; Los Angeles, Calif.; Detroit, Mich. ... Should I go on?

You should try reading next time.


I don't see how naming large cities shows that an increase in the rate rate of black people owning guns iscorrelated with an increase in gun violence, let alone that the gun violence was caused by that increased ownership rate.
 
2013-01-03 02:15:56 AM
Why do people wear hats with other cities' names on them? Seriously, is any city more different city away from Chicago than Pheonix?
 
2013-01-03 02:16:00 AM
So she shot her dead brother in the head, what's the big deal, he was already dead....

Wait, what's that?

Oh, she shot her brother dead in the head....

That's different.

Nevermind.
mob1239.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-03 02:21:35 AM
Does anyone know their facebook id, so I can click "like"?
 
2013-01-03 02:23:33 AM
Arizona tag?
 
2013-01-03 02:24:07 AM

robohobo: BAN FACEBOOK!


Guns don't kill people. Taking pictures while holding guns kills people.

We need to ban picture taking.
 
2013-01-03 02:28:23 AM

degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.


Yes you should, but if let's face it, if you're smart enough to figure that out, you probably don't have the overpowering urge to take pictures of yourself with a gun to your head.

It's kind of like how people who shouldn't have children are often the ones with the most. People who are too stupid to handle firearms safely are often the ones who think it's a great idea to get them and keep them around the house where they can play with them whenever they want to.
 
2013-01-03 02:28:33 AM

the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

They're all loaded.

I meant "why didn't they check the chamber and magazine".

I realize from the perspective of gun safety that the gun is always loaded (yes, I taken a gun safety course), but from a "no seriously, how did this happen" standpoint, if you are going to take a picture with a gun, you should double, triple, quadruple check everything before doing anything else.

And never, even if it's funny, point it at anything you do not wish to completely destroy.


1. Treat every weapon as if it were loaded.
2. Never point you weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot.
3. Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire.
4. Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire.
5. Know your target and what lies beyond and between.

/4 weapon safety rules.
//Yes I know there are 5, anyone who has worked with marines will get it.
 
2013-01-03 02:29:04 AM

ZAZ: A 19-year-old woman accidentally shot dead her brother while posing with a gun for Facebook photos on New Year's Eve.

In Massachusetts on New Year's Eve two best friends decided to settle an argument. Which is faster, drawing a gun or a knife? The gun won.


2.bp.blogspot.com

It clearly wasn't against him.
 
2013-01-03 02:38:07 AM
1/Handling firearm while drinking
2/point loaded firearm at someone's head
3/pull the trigger.

Where is the accident ?
 
2013-01-03 02:38:32 AM
I'm assuming they took multiple photos of them holding a gun to his head. I have no idea why you would need more than one to prove you're crazy insane.
 
2013-01-03 02:38:44 AM
seems to me someone needs to give this girl a badge and a uniform. she is quite adept at knowing whom should be killed on sight. She will easily make chief of police.
 
2013-01-03 02:39:16 AM
www.hotflick.net
YES!!!
 
2013-01-03 02:41:16 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Why do people wear hats with other cities' names on them? Seriously, is any city more different city away from Chicago than Pheonix?


Seriously? It's about sports teams. It's why you'll always have a Cubs/Packers fan somewhere in your city limits at all times.
 
2013-01-03 02:42:44 AM

gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.


True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

www.browning.com
 
2013-01-03 02:44:35 AM

fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]


I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.
 
2013-01-03 02:51:22 AM

mamoru: Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.

Indeed. If people just kept to the philosophy that there is no such thing as an unloaded gun and treat their guns accordingly, this kind of crap wouldn't happen.

Every time a story like this comes up, I hate how they are called accidents. Since the answer to these three questions is almost certainly "yes", it should be classified as some form of homicide (at least manslaughter, if not some degree of murder) and prosecuted accordingly: was the gun loaded? was the gun pointed at the victim? was the shooter's finger on the trigger?

Given the basic rules of firearms safety, answering yes to those questions should show intent, IMNSHO, even though what it usually shows is stupidity and ignorance.

From TFA: Phoenix Police Sgt Steve Martos said the victim's sister would likely be charged with manslaughter if tests conclude she had alcohol in her system.

Screw that. She should be charged with manslaughter anyway.


i1207.photobucket.com

MaaannnSLAAAAAAUUUGGGHHHTTERRRR! I slaughtered a man!
 
2013-01-03 03:03:37 AM
I feel a song coming up.....

www.powned.tv
 
2013-01-03 03:04:45 AM

zobear: ZAZ: A 19-year-old woman accidentally negligently shot dead her brother while posing with a gun for Facebook photos on New Year's Eve.

/fixed that for the author


No, in this case it's totally possible it was an accident. Anyone this dumb is entirely capable of shooting someone by accident. Negligence implies a duty to act (in this case responsibly) and a breach of that duty; whereas accident implies a chain of events beyond anyone's control. And when you reach this level of stupidity, it's well beyond any human control.

Which doesn't absolve her at all, of course; merely that she should be carefully monitored like any dumb animal incapable of controlling its own actions.
 
2013-01-03 03:05:34 AM
This is why we can't have nice YOLOs.

Imma be waiting for them presidential tears...
 
2013-01-03 03:20:08 AM
img541.imageshack.us

I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that this family hasn't gone through a safety course.
 
2013-01-03 03:21:03 AM

Serious Black: fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]

I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.


Yeah, it's the 100 million before those you have to worry about.
 
2013-01-03 03:24:09 AM

Lsherm: [img541.imageshack.us image 306x423]

I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that this family hasn't gone through a safety course.


What was your first clue, that the gun is against his head or that his finger is against the trigger?
 
2013-01-03 03:25:22 AM
Birth Control

Because If You Aren't Careful,
One Of These Could Be Yours.
 
2013-01-03 03:45:12 AM

Lsherm: Serious Black: fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]

I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.

Yeah, it's the 100 million before those you have to worry about.


and just when you think it's fool proof because a gun won't fire with the magazine out your brother's gun doesn't have that feature
 
2013-01-03 03:50:20 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Why was the headline changed to not the actual headline?


I noticed that too. Evidently you and I are the only ones who know it's not the actual headline.
 
2013-01-03 03:51:17 AM

Lsherm: I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that this family hasn't gone through a safety course.


Bet he doesn't even know that's the Punisher's logo on his hat.  Of course at this point, what he does know is sitting in a bag in the morgue.
 
2013-01-03 04:17:25 AM
Remind me again why deporting people like this is a bad idea?

And, before you think me a troll, yes, I admit there is no evidence that they were here illegally..... but what are the odds that either they or their parents came here legally?
 
2013-01-03 04:18:45 AM

Serious Black: fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]

I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.



It doesn't matter. The gun is still loaded.
 
2013-01-03 04:21:33 AM
Can we make one of the new-world gun rules read as following?

"There is no such thing as a safety feature."
 
2013-01-03 04:24:18 AM

Dimensio: Snargi: Even drunk, I check to see of the piece is unloaded, or at least unchambered, before I do stupid stuff with it.

I refuse to touch any firearm (unless secured entirely within a case, and only if moving the cased firearm to a secure location) within six hours of consuming any alcoholic beverage.

I apply the same self-restriction to operation of a motor vehicle.


You're fun at parties aren't you?
 
2013-01-03 04:24:23 AM
I've posted this csb before but:

Well when it comes to guns the biggest safety is the one between your ears. Some people, and they come in every colour and creed, are perfectly capable of responsibly owning firearms and can safely clean them, clear them, store them, keep them away from children etc. Some people I wouidn't trust with a piece of string.... Wasn't it a month or so ago that some dumbass shot his friend at a shooting range they snuck on because he was clearing his modified gun?

A little over 20 years ago I was in a Hunters Safety class waiting for it to begin. The class clown comes in with about 2 minutes to spare, picks up an (empty, partially disassembled) rifle off one of the desks and starts waving it around making pow pow pow noises and pointing it at people. Instructor takes it away and literally throws him out of the class.

Some people just can't handle firearms.
 
2013-01-03 04:26:42 AM
Rule 1: You don't play with guns. Ever. They are not toys.
Rule 2: If someone hands you a gun you check to see if it's loaded.
 
2013-01-03 04:28:32 AM

maram500: Dimensio: Snargi: Even drunk, I check to see of the piece is unloaded, or at least unchambered, before I do stupid stuff with it.

I refuse to touch any firearm (unless secured entirely within a case, and only if moving the cased firearm to a secure location) within six hours of consuming any alcoholic beverage.

I apply the same self-restriction to operation of a motor vehicle.

You're fun at parties aren't you?


Maybe a pilot.  FAA rules are about that strict if you expand it to 8 hours.
 
2013-01-03 04:32:49 AM

the_peddler: Serious Black: fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]

I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.

It doesn't matter. The gun is still loaded.


Yes, there's only so much stupid safety measures can correct for. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't use low-cost measures that will stop at least some of these idiots from killing people, including themselves. And I'm still all for making people take gun safety lessons before they're allowed to buy a gun.
 
2013-01-03 04:48:43 AM
Magazine disconnects would be great if all magazines were perfect and they didn't sometimes make your gun not work even though you put the mag in. 'Oh, sorry Mr Rapist, just give me a second to reseat this magazine and I'll be right with you.'
 
2013-01-03 05:01:58 AM
I'm sorry, but... "sister"? Is he pre-op? That's not a woman.
 
2013-01-03 05:08:29 AM
25 years ago, I lived in a ticky tacky little apartment building. The apartment next to me was occipied by a nice kid who had just become a deputy sheriff, and his very, very smokin' hot, very, very airhead girfriend (bonus: her name was actually Tara).

We all became friendly, playing cards, he'd be working and I'd drive her and the other waitresses she worked with to the club, make sure nobody bothered them. All good.

One day she calls me up, middle of a weekday. Says she's making lunch, I should come over and hang out. Sure, why not, we're friends.

I walk in, and she's pointing a 30.06 rifle at me. It was her boyfriend's, she thought it would be funny. Without thinking, I grab it, very hard, and well, she got whacked in the head very, very hard by the stock. She was crying and mad and pretty pissed off. I was...indifferent.

She called her boyfriend the deputy sheriff, who proceeded to chew her out and really, really get her crying. I could hear him through the receiver in the phone. Then I guess he told her to give me the phone, where upon he and I proceeded to apologize to each other. "I'm sorry for whacking your girlfriend in the head with your rifle." "No, she deserved it, good lesson, so sorry she did that." "Yeah, I kinda came close to soiling myself there, I don't like guns pointed at me." etc.

They broke up soon after, though I would like to think that was a symptom not a cause.
 
2013-01-03 05:15:27 AM
I knew the gun was loaded, but I didn't think it killed, everything exploded and the blood began to spill
 
2013-01-03 05:26:35 AM
I am so farking sick of this shiat.
 
2013-01-03 05:31:03 AM
Wow. I guess it's a good thing (or bad for them) that the constitution didn't make intelligence a requirement to own a gun. I'm willing to guess this weapon wasn't registered or even legal.

Dumasses everywhere.
 
2013-01-03 05:43:25 AM
Brainless.
 
2013-01-03 05:50:21 AM
Juan Carlos is unimpressed.
 
2013-01-03 06:04:55 AM
Did anyone mention that we've unearthed another set of responsible gun owners?
 
2013-01-03 06:19:23 AM
'He was a very close friend to everybody. He was just always there and it's sad because one second he's here and the other he's not.'

You'd have to be, to get the sheer quantity of help you'd need to survive to the age you can buy a handgun while suffering that level of stupidity.

It takes a village to raise an idiot, or something.
 
2013-01-03 06:22:09 AM
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2013-01-03 06:22:30 AM

Gyrfalcon: Lsherm: [img541.imageshack.us image 306x423]

I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that this family hasn't gone through a safety course.

What was your first clue, that the gun is against his head or that his finger is against the trigger?


I was gonna say... They didn't even get the two minute NRA lecture or were specifically trying to break every rule. Seems a safe bet the weapon didn't come through legal channels.

/always treat the gun as loaded, keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
/never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy, be aware of your target and what is behind your target.
 
2013-01-03 06:35:17 AM
I fail to see anything wrong with this
I am a huge fan of idiots shooting each other
I hope it hurt
and I hope he lives a long crippled life where she has to wipe for him
over
and over
and over
infinitely
(don't forget the taint)
 
2013-01-03 06:36:21 AM

mamoru: Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.

Indeed. If people just kept to the philosophy that there is no such thing as an unloaded gun and treat their guns accordingly, this kind of crap wouldn't happen.

Every time a story like this comes up, I hate how they are called accidents. Since the answer to these three questions is almost certainly "yes", it should be classified as some form of homicide (at least manslaughter, if not some degree of murder) and prosecuted accordingly: was the gun loaded? was the gun pointed at the victim? was the shooter's finger on the trigger?

Given the basic rules of firearms safety, answering yes to those questions should show intent, IMNSHO, even though what it usually shows is stupidity and ignorance.

From TFA: Phoenix Police Sgt Steve Martos said the victim's sister would likely be charged with manslaughter if tests conclude she had alcohol in her system.

Screw that. She should be charged with manslaughter anyway.


To be fair, it's actually very easy for a gun to be accidentally fired. A round could get lodged in the chamber and not get ejected. Or, better yet, you could get debris stuck in the barrel of a gun before shooting a blank. Look at what happened to Brandon Lee whilst filming The Crow.

I'm not saying that she shouldn't be charged with manslaughter, mind you. It's an accident in that it wasn't meant to happen. But the fact is that she was playing with a gun that wasn't visually inspected to not have a round in it, which is what should instantly make it manslaughter, alcohol or not.

As a note, whenever I pull out my bolt action rifle, for instance, I always take the bolt off and do a bore and magazine inspection. It's slightly harder for a semi-automatic pistol, a basic disassembly of a semi-automatic handgun (I'm talking slide removal, barrel inspection, and slide insertion) should take no more than 30 seconds if you're slow.
 
2013-01-03 06:44:36 AM
Definitely a good stroke on the side of "gun safety class for everyone in school, once a year, no exceptions". Gun-haters learn how to avoid shooting through schools if they trip on a gun, kids who will be exposed to guns more regularly will learn the basics "don't do this" kind of stuff. It's be a cheap hour or so, and afterward at least some of these accidental discharges could be prevented. We live with that many guns, it's just good common sense. Not that I'm asking for a return of nation-wide high school gun clubs (though it wouldn't hurt), but educating kids on gun safety from a young age, and reinforcing it annually, has to make sense on an intuitive level.
 
2013-01-03 06:55:31 AM

iron_city_ap: Never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot


The gun must always be pointing at something, surely?
 
2013-01-03 06:55:35 AM

efgeise: To be fair, it's actually very easy for a gun to be accidentally fired.


And it's on slightly more difficult to avoid accidental discharges. No modern firearm in good repair will "fire itself", even when dropped. If you're going to aim a weapon at someone, you're an idiot, but you should go well beyond the basics of clearing a weapon. If you're going to aim a loaded weapon at someone you don't intend to kill (blanks count), you should be OCD and have at least one other person doing duplicate checks on every weapon and ammunition the moment before handing it to someone to use. Accidental discharges are easy to do, if you're sloppy and lazy, and are prone to be dangerous anyway.
 
2013-01-03 06:57:06 AM

efgeise: To be fair, it's actually very easy for a gun to be accidentally fired. A round could get lodged in the chamber and not get ejected. Or, better yet, you could get debris stuck in the barrel of a gun before shooting a blank. Look at what happened to Brandon Lee whilst filming The Crow.


Again it's important to point out that, while the words are used interchangeably sometimes, there is a great deal of difference between something happening entirely by accident and something happening due to negligence. An accidental discharge happens due to unlikely or unforseeable occurrences, or in spite of significant safety precautions. A negligent discharge happens because you chambered a round and then pulled the trigger and you're a farking moron.

It's fairly easy for a gun to be negligently fired. An actual accident in the sense of no one being at fault is actually incredibly rare. You have to have several simultaneous points of failure for a modern firearm to go off when it's not supposed to, the likelihood of one of them not being a person handling the thing farking up is almost zero.
 
2013-01-03 07:01:10 AM

orbister: The gun must always be pointing at something, surely?


"Can't afford to shoot" is how I'd heard it. Yeah the muzzle is always going to point somewhere, but choosing potential targets to minimize risk isn't hard.

But being pedantic is great as long as you also understand the underlying meaning of those words upon which you prey.
 
2013-01-03 07:04:29 AM
Did this change the rotational speed of the Earth? If not,then I'm not interested.
 
2013-01-03 07:06:57 AM
And nothing of value was lost.
 
2013-01-03 07:08:17 AM

orbister: iron_city_ap: Never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot

The gun must always be pointing at something, surely?


Should probably be worded as "something that you aren't OK with getting shot" for full logical correctness, but one of the other lessons of gun safety is that if you're carrying the gun, you are responsible for anything the gun does. There aren't "accidents" and "the gun" doesn't do anything, if you're carrying a weapon and a bullet goes from it to somewhere a bullet's not supposed to go, it is your fault.

So the clauses are intentionally worded in the active voice to impress this on the listener.

//Rhetoric 101 for ya, there.
 
2013-01-03 07:19:14 AM
Guns make you safe.
 
2013-01-03 07:20:04 AM
Authorities are looking into who owns the gun

I didn't think this was going to turn out to be a legal firearm.
 
2013-01-03 07:27:05 AM

Tat'dGreaser: Authorities are looking into who owns the gun

I didn't think this was going to turn out to be a legal firearm.


Glad to see I'm not the only one interested in the provenance of the gun.
 
2013-01-03 07:27:58 AM

mamoru: Every time a story like this comes up, I hate how they are called accidents. Since the answer to these three questions is almost certainly "yes", it should be classified as some form of homicide (at least manslaughter, if not some degree of murder) and prosecuted accordingly: was the gun loaded? was the gun pointed at the victim? was the shooter's finger on the trigger?

Given the basic rules of firearms safety, answering yes to those questions should show intent, IMNSHO, even though what it usually shows is stupidity and ignorance.


This sort of thing seems the exact sort of thing anticipated by the people who came up with the term "criminal negligence".
 
2013-01-03 07:32:36 AM

CujoQuarrel: Rule 1: You don't play with guns. Ever. They are not toys.


So much this. I got safety instruction when I first shot at a range; before that I was ignorant of guns. But I still knew you don't point one at people (unless you're going to shoot them). EVER. Should be freakin' common sense. Even if you don't know about rounds in the chamber, keeping your finger off the trigger until the moment you shoot, etc., there's one thing that even the stupidest should able to grasp:

IT IS A DEADLY WEAPON
therefore
IT IS NOT A TOY
 
2013-01-03 07:39:17 AM

Xaneidolon: Glad to see I'm not the only one interested in the provenance of the gun.


I was scrolling through the thread and it was all "safety class" this and "responsible gun owner" that but then I realized I don't remember them talking about how they got this gun. Figured it wasn't through legal means.
 
2013-01-03 07:39:48 AM
Yes! Daily gun control thread! Whooooooooooo! Just think of this poor victim, he was so young and had so much to live for, them his sister shot him in the head.
 
2013-01-03 07:42:47 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Guns make you safe.


Guns let you put bullets in things.
 
2013-01-03 07:44:50 AM

LewDux: If only she held the gun at facebookMyspace angle..

fixed

 
2013-01-03 07:46:30 AM
More of these types of accidents should happen to those kinds of people, god knows the world would be a much better place.
 
2013-01-03 07:47:29 AM

Lsherm: I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that this family hasn't gone through a safety course.


Also notice how that poor man is suffering from arthritis in his left hand.
 
2013-01-03 07:48:19 AM

Jim_Callahan: orbister: iron_city_ap: Never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot

The gun must always be pointing at something, surely?

Should probably be worded as "something that you aren't OK with getting shot" for full logical correctness, but one of the other lessons of gun safety is that if you're carrying the gun, you are responsible for anything the gun does. There aren't "accidents" and "the gun" doesn't do anything, if you're carrying a weapon and a bullet goes from it to somewhere a bullet's not supposed to go, it is your fault.

So the clauses are intentionally worded in the active voice to impress this on the listener.

//Rhetoric 101 for ya, there.


Simple rules are easier to remember.
"Don't point at that" goes further than a five minute lecture about why floors, ceilings, and backstops are less valuable than humans.

/Its not difficult to learn how to handle a gun expertly.
/It IS difficult to fight against decades of bad influence from movies and TV shows.
/Many People involved in accidents didn't learn how to handle a gun from the NRA or any instructor.
/They learned it by watching some twit of an actor as he waved around unloaded props.
 
2013-01-03 07:50:12 AM

MisterRonbo: 25 years ago, I lived in a ticky tacky little apartment building. The apartment next to me was occipied by a nice kid who had just become a deputy sheriff, and his very, very smokin' hot, very, very airhead girfriend (bonus: her name was actually Tara).

We all became friendly, playing cards, he'd be working and I'd drive her and the other waitresses she worked with to the club, make sure nobody bothered them. All good.

One day she calls me up, middle of a weekday. Says she's making lunch, I should come over and hang out. Sure, why not, we're friends.

I walk in, and she's pointing a 30.06 rifle at me. It was her boyfriend's, she thought it would be funny. Without thinking, I grab it, very hard, and well, she got whacked in the head very, very hard by the stock. She was crying and mad and pretty pissed off. I was...indifferent.

She called her boyfriend the deputy sheriff, who proceeded to chew her out and really, really get her crying. I could hear him through the receiver in the phone. Then I guess he told her to give me the phone, where upon he and I proceeded to apologize to each other. "I'm sorry for whacking your girlfriend in the head with your rifle." "No, she deserved it, good lesson, so sorry she did that." "Yeah, I kinda came close to soiling myself there, I don't like guns pointed at me." etc.

They broke up soon after, though I would like to think that was a symptom not a cause.


You slept with her?
 
2013-01-03 07:54:20 AM
No, she accidentally exercised her God-given Second Amendment rights. Stupid liburl-slanted headlines.
 
2013-01-03 07:56:31 AM

Phony_Soldier: They say "sister", but I'm just wondering in what way "sister" is being used? Are they really related?


Hard to say. Her Face book says he relationship status is "complicated"
 
2013-01-03 07:58:56 AM
heatherosborne.speculative-fiction.ca

At least she didn't shoot her dead patient.

/Cuddy: I can't even imagine the backward logic you used to rationalize shooting a corpse.
//House: Well, if I shot a live person, there's a lot more paperwork.
 
2013-01-03 08:02:24 AM
Funny thing here is that the dues paying Farktards finally get to see what a true gun nut looks like and they don't recognize one.
 
2013-01-03 08:02:31 AM
Wow. The pictures provide us with a shining example of upstanding citizens with bright futures. What a shame!
 
2013-01-03 08:06:35 AM
Some problems are self-solving.
 
2013-01-03 08:12:45 AM

david_gaithersburg: Funny thing here is that the dues paying Farktards finally get to see what a true gun nut looks like and they don't recognize one.


The unfunny thing here is all the racists running into the thread with hate boners screaming "SEE!! TEH MINORITIES AND 0BAMBALAMBA!!1"

Seriously, shut up.
 
2013-01-03 08:16:20 AM

mikaloyd: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]


You ever wonder why the Phoenix sheriff acts like he does?




/God help us, that picture is so full of fail and derp that i can't even begin to comprehend it.
 
2013-01-03 08:17:45 AM

Tat'dGreaser: I was scrolling through the thread and it was all "safety class" this and "responsible gun owner" that but then I realized I don't remember them talking about how they got this gun. Figured it wasn't through legal means.


Cops are always happy to prosecute people for having guns illegally, if that's the case. I didn't see the charges, so I assumed that it wasn't the case. Do you have evidence that these guns were obtained illegally? The brother was 22, so absent any prohibiting condition would be able to legally obtain both pistols and long arms. The sister was 19, so even she would be legally able to buy long arms. Sure, they were both idiots, but until legally deemed so, their rights to keep and bear arms cannot be arbitrarily revoked.
 
2013-01-03 08:24:48 AM

hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?


It didn't. Gun crime, like all violent crime, has been on the decline in the U.S. for more than two decades.
 
2013-01-03 08:26:48 AM

Quasar: And little nothing of value was lost.


FTFY
 
2013-01-03 08:29:09 AM

here to help: david_gaithersburg: Funny thing here is that the dues paying Farktards finally get to see what a true gun nut looks like and they don't recognize one.

The unfunny thing here is all the racists running into the thread with hate boners screaming "SEE!! TEH MINORITIES AND 0BAMBALAMBA!!1"

Seriously, shut up.


.
Dude, seek help, and some reading courses probably wouldn't hurt either.
 
2013-01-03 08:35:23 AM
I guess she thought she was professional enough to have a semiautomatic pistol.

That cop that shot himself reversed the order of eject magazine, cycle action to pop the round in the chamber.
 
2013-01-03 08:36:59 AM

aerojockey: Kimothy: Is it still Darwin-award worthy if the shooter doesn't die?

Not eligible for Darwin award, no, but a case could be made that this does help human evolution.  She prevented her brother from reproducing, and her brother shares some of her DNA, so she did, indirectly, prevent similar DNA to hers from being passed on.  So no Darwin award but she might deserve an honorable mention.


One would hope her appearance will stop her from reproducing

/ and she looks like a lezzie anyway
 
2013-01-03 08:37:29 AM

david_gaithersburg: Dude, seek help, and some reading courses probably wouldn't hurt either.


Your initial post was an attack on Obama and while you didn't come right out and say anything racist we all know what "Obama Voter" means to the right. Take your dog whistles cram 'em up your arse.

However there were MANY other overtly racist comments so I think my reading skills are just fine. As far as my mental health... well at least I'm not a blithering xenophobic troll who sh*ts on Fark threads day in and day out so at least I've got that going for me.
 
2013-01-03 08:38:35 AM
If only she had shot an unarmed black kid, then the whole Fark gun nut brigade would be white knighting her.

Looks like the world has one less Zimmerman, go Darwin!
 
2013-01-03 08:39:42 AM
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-01-03 08:41:24 AM
Darwin won this one.
 
2013-01-03 08:42:27 AM

mamoru: Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.

Screw that. She should be charged with manslaughter anyway.


Let's not forget to charge the knucklehead who gave her the gun in the first place. If with nothing more than reckless endangerment.

iron_city_ap: Plus the lack of muzzle discipline. Never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot and don't put your finger on the trigger till you are ready to shoot. And always treat a gun as if its loaded. Simple common sense.


It's NOT common sense. I know it because my father taught me. There are training courses because it's not common sense.
 
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2013-01-03 08:43:33 AM

liam76: Quasar: And little nothing of value was lost.

FTFY


While I feel sorry for the kid's parents, this is OH so true.
 
2013-01-03 08:45:39 AM

mikaloyd: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]


You ever wonder why the Phoenix sheriff acts like he does?


Because two wrongs some how make it right using your math.
 
2013-01-03 08:48:40 AM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Why do people wear hats with other cities' names on them? Seriously, is any city more different city away from Chicago than Pheonix?


Gang colors
 
2013-01-03 08:50:18 AM

stevarooni: Cops are always happy to prosecute people for having guns illegally, if that's the case. I didn't see the charges, so I assumed that it wasn't the case. Do you have evidence that these guns were obtained illegally? The brother was 22, so absent any prohibiting condition would be able to legally obtain both pistols and long arms. The sister was 19, so even she would be legally able to buy long arms. Sure, they were both idiots, but until legally deemed so, their rights to keep and bear arms cannot be arbitrarily revoked.


FTA, they were searching to find out who was the owner of the firearm so reasonable conclusion would say it wasn't his right?
 
2013-01-03 08:54:40 AM

maram500: Dimensio: Snargi: Even drunk, I check to see of the piece is unloaded, or at least unchambered, before I do stupid stuff with it.

I refuse to touch any firearm (unless secured entirely within a case, and only if moving the cased firearm to a secure location) within six hours of consuming any alcoholic beverage.

I apply the same self-restriction to operation of a motor vehicle.

You're fun at parties aren't you?


I do not attend parties. I experience discomfort amongst large crowds of people.

/Crowds of children can induce a panic attack.
 
2013-01-03 08:57:57 AM

Tat'dGreaser: FTA, they were searching to find out who was the owner of the firearm so reasonable conclusion would say it wasn't his right?


Nope, that's begging the question. They're looking into it means that it wasn't readily knowable who owned it. They don't know. Might be that they find the receipt in his precisely-kept records, clearly marked, "Gun receipts", or they might have to comb through a nasty pile of paperwork and Pringles™ canisters to come up with a moldy, sticky half-faded receipt. Arizona is one of the many states that doesn't require gun registration or a permit to buy a gun.
 
2013-01-03 09:07:49 AM
Gangsta Style.
 
2013-01-03 09:08:33 AM

Plant Rights Activist: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

when isn't it considered loaded?


When it's disassembled for cleaning
 
2013-01-03 09:17:20 AM

stevarooni: Tat'dGreaser: FTA, they were searching to find out who was the owner of the firearm so reasonable conclusion would say it wasn't his right?

Nope, that's begging the question. They're looking into it means that it wasn't readily knowable who owned it. They don't know. Might be that they find the receipt in his precisely-kept records, clearly marked, "Gun receipts", or they might have to comb through a nasty pile of paperwork and Pringles™ canisters to come up with a moldy, sticky half-faded receipt. Arizona is one of the many states that doesn't require gun registration or a permit to buy a gun.


Therein lies the problem. It's almost as if the gun industry has a powerful lobbying group that makes sure the gun laws make it impossible to prosecute straw buyers.
 
2013-01-03 09:17:28 AM
He was dead, so no harm no foul.
 
2013-01-03 09:19:39 AM

ParaHandy: Therein lies the problem. It's almost as if the gun industry has a powerful lobbying group that makes sure the gun laws make it impossible to prosecute straw buyers.


Straw buyers? If he wasn't legally prohibited from owning a gun, someone else buying it for him wouldn't be a legally liable "straw buyer". Does that have pertinence to this situation, or is this just a gripe you have, in general?
 
2013-01-03 09:22:51 AM

efgeise: mamoru: Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.

Indeed. If people just kept to the philosophy that there is no such thing as an unloaded gun and treat their guns accordingly, this kind of crap wouldn't happen.

Every time a story like this comes up, I hate how they are called accidents. Since the answer to these three questions is almost certainly "yes", it should be classified as some form of homicide (at least manslaughter, if not some degree of murder) and prosecuted accordingly: was the gun loaded? was the gun pointed at the victim? was the shooter's finger on the trigger?

Given the basic rules of firearms safety, answering yes to those questions should show intent, IMNSHO, even though what it usually shows is stupidity and ignorance.

From TFA: Phoenix Police Sgt Steve Martos said the victim's sister would likely be charged with manslaughter if tests conclude she had alcohol in her system.

Screw that. She should be charged with manslaughter anyway.

To be fair, it's actually very easy for a gun to be accidentally fired. A round could get lodged in the chamber and not get ejected. Or, better yet, you could get debris stuck in the barrel of a gun before shooting a blank. Look at what happened to Brandon Lee whilst filming The Crow.

I'm not saying that she shouldn't be charged with manslaughter, mind you. It's an accident in that it wasn't meant to happen. But the fact is that she was playing with a gun that wasn't visually inspected to not have a round in it, which is what should instantly make it manslaughter, alcohol or not.

As a note, whenever I pull out my bolt action rifle, for instance, I always take the bolt off and do a bore and magazine inspection. It's slightly harder for a semi-automatic pistol, a basic disassembly of a semi-automatic handgun (I'm talking slide removal, barrel inspection, and slide insertion) should take no more than 30 seconds if you're slow.


Whenever I handle a firearm, before even making eye contact with it (?), I boil my hands to ensure that there is no gunpowder rsidue on them. I then do a GSR test, and if it's positive I call the police on myself. If I pass, I get my reaching sticks and- over the course of a few hours- completely disassemble the weapon. I am always sure to keep each individual piece at least 12" from another so as not to encourage a negligent discharge from occuring. Lastly, in order to be completely safe, I melt the weapon down and turn it into either wind chimes or spinner rims. If you do less than that, if your safety standard is so low that you would actually handle a weapon, I know that one day you will shoot yourself in the head. I bet this guy didn't even do ONE pre-boil.
 
2013-01-03 09:33:13 AM

ParaHandy: If only she had shot an unarmed black kid, then the whole Fark gun nut brigade would be white knighting her.

Looks like the world has one less Zimmerman, go Darwin!


Um....we are white knighting her. She's the awesome. The only thing she could have done better is to somehow have shot herself at the same time. Pretty sure her brother wasn't a neighborhood watch volunteer though...that was kind of weird. You crazy.
 
2013-01-03 09:38:19 AM

Artisan Sandwich: Whenever I handle a firearm, before even making eye contact with it (?), I boil my hands to ensure that there is no gunpowder rsidue on them. I then do a GSR test, and if it's positive I call the police on myself. If I pass, I get my reaching sticks and- over the course of a few hours- completely disassemble the weapon. I am always sure to keep each individual piece at least 12" from another so as not to encourage a negligent discharge from occuring. Lastly, in order to be completely safe, I melt the weapon down and turn it into either wind chimes or spinner rims. If you do less than that, if your safety standard is so low that you would actually handle a weapon, I know that one day you will shoot yourself in the head. I bet this guy didn't even do ONE pre-boil.


Good call, people should be mocked for taking extra caution when handling a deadly weapon. He checks his weapons to make sure there isn't debris in the chamber which could cause a backfire, what a nancy!
 
2013-01-03 09:40:30 AM

AbbeySomeone: MisterRonbo: 25 years ago, I lived in a ticky tacky little apartment building. The apartment next to me was occipied by a nice kid who had just become a deputy sheriff, and his very, very smokin' hot, very, very airhead girfriend (bonus: her name was actually Tara).

We all became friendly, playing cards, he'd be working and I'd drive her and the other waitresses she worked with to the club, make sure nobody bothered them. All good.

One day she calls me up, middle of a weekday. Says she's making lunch, I should come over and hang out. Sure, why not, we're friends.

I walk in, and she's pointing a 30.06 rifle at me. It was her boyfriend's, she thought it would be funny. Without thinking, I grab it, very hard, and well, she got whacked in the head very, very hard by the stock. She was crying and mad and pretty pissed off. I was...indifferent.

She called her boyfriend the deputy sheriff, who proceeded to chew her out and really, really get her crying. I could hear him through the receiver in the phone. Then I guess he told her to give me the phone, where upon he and I proceeded to apologize to each other. "I'm sorry for whacking your girlfriend in the head with your rifle." "No, she deserved it, good lesson, so sorry she did that." "Yeah, I kinda came close to soiling myself there, I don't like guns pointed at me." etc.

They broke up soon after, though I would like to think that was a symptom not a cause.

You slept with her?


Sweet evil Jesus I wish, she was gorgeous. But not my type - she had self-esteem.
 
2013-01-03 09:48:56 AM
i.dailymail.co.uk

Judging by the picture, this was bound to happen eventually anyways...
 
2013-01-03 09:50:18 AM

farkingismybusiness: Straight up gangsta.


What the hell?
 
2013-01-03 09:54:53 AM

Carn: Artisan Sandwich: Whenever I handle a firearm, before even making eye contact with it (?), I boil my hands to ensure that there is no gunpowder rsidue on them. I then do a GSR test, and if it's positive I call the police on myself. If I pass, I get my reaching sticks and- over the course of a few hours- completely disassemble the weapon. I am always sure to keep each individual piece at least 12" from another so as not to encourage a negligent discharge from occuring. Lastly, in order to be completely safe, I melt the weapon down and turn it into either wind chimes or spinner rims. If you do less than that, if your safety standard is so low that you would actually handle a weapon, I know that one day you will shoot yourself in the head. I bet this guy didn't even do ONE pre-boil.

Good call, people should be mocked for taking extra caution when handling a deadly weapon. He checks his weapons to make sure there isn't debris in the chamber which could cause a backfire, what a nancy!


You don't pick up on things too good.
 
2013-01-03 09:56:38 AM

Serious Black: fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]

I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.


They aggravate the hell out of me. I only have one gun with a mag disconnect, and I only tolerate it because it's strictly a target pistol.
 
2013-01-03 10:01:54 AM

here to help: david_gaithersburg: Dude, seek help, and some reading courses probably wouldn't hurt either.

Your initial post was an attack on Obama and while you didn't come right out and say anything racist we all know what "Obama Voter" means to the right. Take your dog whistles cram 'em up your arse.

However there were MANY other overtly racist comments so I think my reading skills are just fine. As far as my mental health... well at least I'm not a blithering xenophobic troll who sh*ts on Fark threads day in and day out so at least I've got that going for me.


.
I hope you don't own any firearms. Seek help.
 
2013-01-03 10:02:02 AM

Draskuul: JonZoidberg: In fact, I only go to gun stores that check every gun every time before they hand it to a customer.

Same here, and after they hand it to me, I check it again myself, every time.


ignorant drunks with guns can be scary... I was out drinking one night with some people that live on the block, while on the block... This guy, without saying a word, while I am talking to someone else, puts a gun in my hand.... a fully loaded semi-auto... I still don't know what he was thinking. Probably just trying to show off. He was from California, and I gave him a some harsh words on gun safety before giving the gun back. I did not attempt to unload it or even check the safety as I was unfamiliar with the weapon. Just kept it pointed away from anything living.
 
2013-01-03 10:02:07 AM

Artisan Sandwich: Carn: Artisan Sandwich: Whenever I handle a firearm, before even making eye contact with it (?), I boil my hands to ensure that there is no gunpowder rsidue on them. I then do a GSR test, and if it's positive I call the police on myself. If I pass, I get my reaching sticks and- over the course of a few hours- completely disassemble the weapon. I am always sure to keep each individual piece at least 12" from another so as not to encourage a negligent discharge from occuring. Lastly, in order to be completely safe, I melt the weapon down and turn it into either wind chimes or spinner rims. If you do less than that, if your safety standard is so low that you would actually handle a weapon, I know that one day you will shoot yourself in the head. I bet this guy didn't even do ONE pre-boil.

Good call, people should be mocked for taking extra caution when handling a deadly weapon. He checks his weapons to make sure there isn't debris in the chamber which could cause a backfire, what a nancy!

You don't pick up on things too good.


Sarcasm meter broken. My apologies.
 
2013-01-03 10:10:42 AM

david_gaithersburg: I hope you don't own any firearms. Seek help.


Way to make sense, retard.
 
2013-01-03 10:13:40 AM

the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.


Immediately check any firearm you pick up to see if its loaded.
 
2013-01-03 10:15:21 AM

stevarooni: ParaHandy: Therein lies the problem. It's almost as if the gun industry has a powerful lobbying group that makes sure the gun laws make it impossible to prosecute straw buyers.

Straw buyers? If he wasn't legally prohibited from owning a gun, someone else buying it for him wouldn't be a legally liable "straw buyer". Does that have pertinence to this situation, or is this just a gripe you have, in general?


Actually, no, it still could be a straw purchase:

It is immaterial
that the actual purchaser and the straw
purchaser are residents of the State in
which the licensee's business premises
is located, are not prohibited from receiving or possessing firearms, and
could have lawfully purchased firearms
from the licensee.
 
2013-01-03 10:15:42 AM

Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.


The most dangerous gun is one held by idiots with no training, no respect for life, and no hopes for the future.
 
2013-01-03 10:24:56 AM

maram500: Dimensio: Snargi: Even drunk, I check to see of the piece is unloaded, or at least unchambered, before I do stupid stuff with it.

I refuse to touch any firearm (unless secured entirely within a case, and only if moving the cased firearm to a secure location) within six hours of consuming any alcoholic beverage.

I apply the same self-restriction to operation of a motor vehicle.

You're fun at parties aren't you?


i would party with him, i know i'm going to be safe
 
2013-01-03 10:25:10 AM
If, as a society, we continue to have firearms as available and common as they currently are, we need to make firearm safety classes mandatory in schools.
 
2013-01-03 10:30:14 AM

Lsherm: [img541.imageshack.us image 306x423]

I'm going to go way out on a limb and suggest that this family hasn't gone through a safety course.


You are just being judgmental, all the evidence is not in yet
- Photo with dead guy holding a gun to his head
- Playing with guns after drinking
- Dead brother accidentally shot

Wait...you may be on to something
 
2013-01-03 10:31:58 AM

fnordest: Actually, no, it still could be a straw purchase:


Technically speaking, yes, it would be a straw purchase, just as a woman sending her boyfriend in to get tampons is turning him into a "straw purchaser". But it isn't the legally prohibited kind. So again...what is the revelvance, here?
 
2013-01-03 10:32:40 AM

Plant Rights Activist: degenerate-afro: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Why was the gun even loaded?

when isn't it considered loaded?


Well, my state requires gun and ammunition to be transported separately without a permit. So at some point I have to consider the gun is ready to be legally transported. Or stand there looking OCD
 
2013-01-03 10:32:46 AM

meanmutton: If, as a society, we continue to have firearms as available and common as they currently are, we need to make firearm safety classes mandatory in schools.


Good idea! I'm glad I suggested it earlier. ;-)
 
2013-01-03 10:38:23 AM
This is what happens when you take god out of facebook.
 
2013-01-03 10:38:48 AM

JRoo: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

We should regulate our militia better.

Or at all.


Are you one of those people who think that only newspapers have freedom of religion?
 
2013-01-03 10:43:40 AM

ko_kyi: That cop that shot himself


You are going to have to be much more specific
 
2013-01-03 10:44:17 AM

Darth_Lukecash: The most dangerous gun is an unloaded gun.


Nothing new here.

My great grandad was almost killed by a stupid cousin playing with an "unloaded" shotgun. Thankfully for me, he sat up to look at the last minute and got it in the stomach instead of head.

And the cousin wasn't allowed to touch guns again.

\Idiots exist, will manage to do retarded shiat with whatever they can get their hands on, Ric Romero reports.
 
2013-01-03 10:48:09 AM

Maul555: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

Judging by the picture, this was bound to happen eventually anyways...


Someone needs to photoshop some cash on his left hand...
 
2013-01-03 10:50:48 AM

Carn: Artisan Sandwich: Carn: Artisan Sandwich: Whenever I handle a firearm, before even making eye contact with it (?), I boil my hands to ensure that there is no gunpowder rsidue on them. I then do a GSR test, and if it's positive I call the police on myself. If I pass, I get my reaching sticks and- over the course of a few hours- completely disassemble the weapon. I am always sure to keep each individual piece at least 12" from another so as not to encourage a negligent discharge from occuring. Lastly, in order to be completely safe, I melt the weapon down and turn it into either wind chimes or spinner rims. If you do less than that, if your safety standard is so low that you would actually handle a weapon, I know that one day you will shoot yourself in the head. I bet this guy didn't even do ONE pre-boil.

Good call, people should be mocked for taking extra caution when handling a deadly weapon. He checks his weapons to make sure there isn't debris in the chamber which could cause a backfire, what a nancy!

You don't pick up on things too good.

Sarcasm meter broken. My apologies.


I was referring to him saying that you had to partially dis-assemble the weapon in order to ensure that it is unloaded. That's retarded. I would have been dead thousands of times over if that was the case. The most important thing of all is muzzle control. The next is trigger control. In some jobs, muzzle control is not an option (house clearing, fighting withdrawal, the list goes on) so it comes down to keeping your finger off the trigger.
 
2013-01-03 10:51:46 AM
I knew this story would show up here.
 
2013-01-03 10:56:56 AM

Snargi: Even drunk, I check to see of the piece is unloaded, or at least unchambered, before I do stupid stuff with it.


This sentence sounds so dumb to me.
 
2013-01-03 11:02:15 AM

Dimensio: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?
When, exactly, did "more minorities" begin purchasing firearms?


When they moved to the U.S., duh. Do you have any idea how many minorities are in the U.S. now? The Republican party does.

Theory Of Null: I'm assuming they took multiple photos of them holding a gun to his head. I have no idea why you would need more than one to prove you're crazy insane.

i2.cdnds.net
 
2013-01-03 11:03:27 AM
Well at least in prison she shouldn't have access to sharpies.
 
2013-01-03 11:03:59 AM

Serious Black: fusillade762: gregscott: They probably made sure the gun was "unloaded" by removing the "clip".

Tip: if a pistol has a round in the chamber, removing the magazine will not unload the round in the chamber.

True. However some pistols have magazine disconnects that prevent the weapon from firing if the magazine is removed. This one, for one example:

[www.browning.com image 400x272]

I didn't know such a safety feature existed, but that seems like something that should be included in every semi-auto handgun.


Well, except for weapons used for sport shooting. Some are worried that if you put too many safety features on a handgun, you encourage reckless behavior with all firearms and we already have hundreds of millions without the safety feature out there.
 
2013-01-03 11:05:40 AM
Is that an HK USP? hard to tell from the low quality pic and angle. mounting rail on the front looks a little short though. Anyway nice gun to get shot in the head by if that is your thing.

/and nothing of value was lost
//hopefully she'll off herself too.
 
2013-01-03 11:07:55 AM

here to help: david_gaithersburg: Dude, seek help, and some reading courses probably wouldn't hurt either.

Your initial post was an attack on Obama and while you didn't come right out and say anything racist we all know what "Obama Voter" means to the right. Take your dog whistles cram 'em up your arse.

However there were MANY other overtly racist comments so I think my reading skills are just fine. As far as my mental health... well at least I'm not a blithering xenophobic troll who sh*ts on Fark threads day in and day out so at least I've got that going for me.


It's funny to me that the only ones who seem to be able to hear the dog whistles are the Liberals making the baseless accusations of racism.
 
2013-01-03 11:36:40 AM

iron_city_ap: the_chief: Finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire!!!

/It's like some people have no training at all.

Plus the lack of muzzle discipline. Never point a gun at something you don't intend to shoot and don't put your finger on the trigger till you are ready to shoot. And always treat a gun as if its loaded. Simple common sense.


Common sense?  Training?  What are you some un-American Commie Pinkos that don;t realize that gun ownership is a RIGHT, not some sort of responsibility or privilege which means that gun onwers are free to do whateva they want, it's the only way to keep the rest of us safe don'tcha know.
 
2013-01-03 11:38:39 AM

The_Original_Roxtar: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 705x412]


booyeah, thank you.

/done with thread
 
2013-01-03 11:51:51 AM

meanmutton: It's funny to me that the only ones who seem to be able to hear the dog whistles are the Liberals making the baseless accusations of racism.


Riiiiiggghht.

I guess in a way that's true because the people who blow those whistles don't count racism as being racist.

The people who notice racism are the REAL racists.
Also... don't call me a liberal. My politics are more complex than just blind banner waving and pants pissing over the talking points du jour.
 
2013-01-03 12:10:15 PM
Shooting your dead brother. Now thats Gangsta.
 
2013-01-03 12:11:35 PM
Where did they bury the survivors?
 
2013-01-03 12:40:24 PM

justanotherfarkinfarker: Is that an HK USP?


Doubt it, those things are like $600 new. I thought it was a Taurus
 
2013-01-03 12:43:38 PM

Soymilk: hundreddollarman: Is it really that surprising that gun violence in the U.S. went way up once more minorities started buying guns?

Lanza, Laughner, Sideshow Bob, the Columbine killers are all white.


Since we are all playing the race game. For high profile mass shootings you left off the WVU shooter and Major Hassan (neither of whom are white). If I wasnt on a phone, I would link 3 more mass shootings in south florida by African Americans, including 2 that happened at funerals. You probably never heard of them since they were gang related. Which leads me to another question, why dont mass shootings get publicized if the motive is something other than guy shoots up a school or something for no no apparent reason?

/also im pretty sure hundreddollarman was trolling and ill give him an 8/10 based on number of responses.
 
2013-01-03 01:01:42 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-03 01:03:07 PM
Welp, I guess I'm officially racist. I looked at the picture and thought to myself, "Good."
 
2013-01-03 01:37:56 PM
I guess everyone knew that was bound to happen
 
2013-01-03 01:41:04 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Welp, I guess I'm officially racist. I looked at the picture and thought to myself, "Good."


I thought the same thing... but not because of his ethnicity. It was because he's flashing gang signs and holding a gun to his head. Most latinos I've ever met were very kind and hard working folks. In fact even the one latino gangbanger I met was too. I didn't even realize he was a thug until someone pointed it out to me. He sure didn't act like it.

I know that's not always the case but every race has assholes. It's more of a human trait then a racial one.
 
2013-01-03 01:43:24 PM
poemsprayersandponderings.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-03 02:06:25 PM

ko_kyi: Doubt it, those things are like $600 new. I thought it was a Taurus


More like $900. Prob right on the Taurus. Not that it's a bad pistol. As it didn't jam.
 
2013-01-03 02:16:22 PM

here to help: The unfunny thing here is all the racists running into the thread with hate boners screaming "SEE!! TEH MINORITIES AND 0BAMBALAMBA!!1"


And, notice most of the morons never show up in a thread like this one about white idiots commiting gun crimes, or when they do, they still find a way to turn it into an attack on minorities and/or liberals (as the idiot you were replying to did in that thread)...
 
2013-01-03 02:35:04 PM
Damn, I submitted the same thing, knowing most folks don't RTFA:


"Sister accidentally shoots dead brother in the head". Your initial assumption of this story will only be correct if you like Eel Pie and can post "colour snaps" to Pinterest


Meh.

i651.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-03 02:36:26 PM

RobSeace: here to help: The unfunny thing here is all the racists running into the thread with hate boners screaming "SEE!! TEH MINORITIES AND 0BAMBALAMBA!!1"

And, notice most of the morons never show up in a thread like this one about white idiots commiting gun crimes, or when they do, they still find a way to turn it into an attack on minorities and/or liberals (as the idiot you were replying to did in that thread)...


They see what they want to see. It'd be amusing but these people are allowed to vote. I was watching CSPAN during the election and the callers were scaring the piss out of me.

Republicans: They could not string more than two words together. It literally sounded like most of them had just suffered a MAJOR blow to the head and the hatred... oh gawd the seething hatred.

Democrats: Seemed well meaning enough and could actually speak... mostly... but they were also pretty freaking dumb. Lots of really uninformed statements amongst to "WOO HOOS!" and "GOBAMAS!"

Then there were the independents. They were intelligent and well spoken but the things they were saying were... f*cked. Mostly about completely dismantling any type of power structure which may sound nice in principle but considering the attitudes of the other two subsets a civil war would be inevitable. And what happens to the most vulnerable in a society like that?

I used to think that leaving things up to the people was the best way to go and that human nature can overcome and do the right thing but now... that thought is terrifying.

Wat do?!
 
2013-01-03 02:50:04 PM
I am unable to become concerned about the content of this article. It would appear that this woman has performed a service to society by removing both herself and her brother from it.

Hooray.

/way late to the party
 
2013-01-03 03:01:00 PM
I'm drinking irresponsibly while recklessly handling loaded firearms, so I'm getting a kick from these comments...
 
2013-01-03 03:16:12 PM

here to help: I used to think that leaving things up to the people was the best way to go and that human nature can overcome and do the right thing but now... that thought is terrifying.

Wat do?!


Drink heavily and try to forget about it? That's what I do...
 
2013-01-03 03:17:47 PM
it was a set up
 
2013-01-03 03:25:33 PM

RobSeace: Drink heavily and try to forget about it? That's what I do...


That stopped working a few years ago.

Stupid pussy liver.

*punches self in the liver*

ow...
 
2013-01-03 04:43:38 PM

Artisan Sandwich: Whenever I handle a firearm, before even making eye contact with it (?), I boil my hands to ensure that there is no gunpowder rsidue on them. I then do a GSR test, and if it's positive I call the police on myself. If I pass, I get my reaching sticks and- over the course of a few hours- completely disassemble the weapon. I am always sure to keep each individual piece at least 12" from another so as not to encourage a negligent discharge from occuring. Lastly, in order to be completely safe, I melt the weapon down and turn it into either wind chimes or spinner rims. If you do less than that, if your safety standard is so low that you would actually handle a weapon, I know that one day you will shoot yourself in the head. I bet this guy didn't even do ONE pre-boil.


Sweet Jesus, this made me laugh so hard I cried.
 
2013-01-03 05:25:54 PM

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Welp, I guess I'm officially racist. I looked at the picture and thought to myself, "Good."


There are plenty of people we can do without with a multitude of skin tones.
 
2013-01-03 06:34:18 PM

CujoQuarrel: Rule 1: You don't play with guns. Ever. They are not toys.


One of my pet peeves is people who refer to their guns as their "toys."
 
2013-01-03 06:45:14 PM
Boom!!!! headshot
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2013-01-03 08:49:52 PM
Damn, about a third of the comments are pretty racist here.
 
2013-01-03 09:20:50 PM

stevarooni: Arizona is one of the many states that doesn't require gun registration or a permit to buy a gun.


Your statement is misleading. I am a stakeholder in a firearms resale business in Arizona and I assure you, we have to run the background check on any buyer. It's federal law, not state law, so the literal meaning of what you wrote is true, but it reads as though you're suggesting that no check at all is necessary to buy a gun in AZ, which would be false.
 
2013-01-03 09:53:03 PM
Simpson reference that came to me:

"Help! My husband is on a murderous rampage! Over."

"Thank God that's over."
 
2013-01-03 10:37:20 PM
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/Hotter than a Lilly von Schtupp
 
2013-01-03 11:06:43 PM
So far, this story has one dead gang thug. And chances are, another will get locked up for a very long time.

Looks like a win for society.
 
2013-01-04 02:33:34 AM
Good. One less 'gangsta'. On the other hand, one more stupid 'gangsta' retard lives.
 
2013-01-04 11:57:31 PM
I like that last line "...numerous pictures...posing with guns and making gang signs." Good riddance to bad rubbish.
 
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