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(NBC News)   Yes, Windows 8 is really worse than Vista   (nbcnews.com) divider line 205
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2013-01-04 08:00:29 PM  

likefunbutnot: netweavr: I still use XP Pro, but it's starting to lose compatibility with newer software. The Windows 8 upgrade is only $40.

Every application that needs to be taken seriously still runs on XP. Maybe there's a modeling tool someplace that needs DX10, and I understand that next-generation media creation apps are slowly moving away from compatibility, but for the most part no one wants to stop taking money from the absolutely massive base of installed seats of Windows XP.

Windows 8 is absolutely worth $40. I actually suspect that if the full install of the Pro version were priced at that point, every SMB customer I have would move off XP within a year, if only so that they couple take four or five more years to decide whether they want to move to Windows 9 or 10 or whatever.


Please explain, I was informed that my $40 key for Pro would work fine with the full version iso I burned at work.
 
2013-01-04 08:46:11 PM  

netweavr: Please explain, I was informed that my $40 key for Pro would work fine with the full version iso I burned at work.


Technically, that is an upgrade license. You are right that it will work, but the boilerplate no one reads prevents it from being more useful.
 
2013-01-04 08:50:38 PM  

likefunbutnot: netweavr: Please explain, I was informed that my $40 key for Pro would work fine with the full version iso I burned at work.

Technically, that is an upgrade license. You are right that it will work, but the boilerplate no one reads prevents it from being more useful.


That sounds close to what I've heard. The unofficial workaround was officially supported by MS but not officially approved by lawyers or some crap.
 
2013-01-04 09:29:05 PM  
Upgrade licenses have been incredibly abuse-able for as long as Windows has existed. Just by the mechanics of how upgrades from different versions of Windows are supported, they're de facto full versions no matter what.
 
2013-01-05 04:52:11 AM  
Vista was a kernel/memory memory management issue 8 is a good OS with a stupid design change.

8's issue isn't hardware or kernel related its stupid design choice related. When people are developing work arounds for your interface during your in-house beta and all beta's there after you don't stubbornly double down and send out that interface but modify it. This is to hard for MS to wrap their ego around however.

Vista's main problem was they initially lied a lot about the amount of memory needed. MS claimed 256 mb required 512mb recommended. If you had home basic and a directx 9 video card and turned off most of the aero stuff you might get it to run 1 program at a time halfway decently with 256. They revised it up to 512 shortly after release but a number budget of computers shipped new with 256 at the time from major builders. Add in the new memory management system before being patched with service packs didn't handle memory crashes due to a lack of available memory and ready boost not being well explained and you had a bunch of constantly freezing computers. It also had some drivers issues. Its important to remember as well that Vista doesn't even really like 512 especially with lots of the video cards and discrete graphics that were around at the time of its release.

I personally got somewhat lucky with vista in that I had just built a gaming machine that was capable of running it easily. My roommate at the time bought an hp with discrete graphics that weren't directx9 capable. It only had 512 mb of ram as well. That was constantly crashing. I ended up staying with xp 64 bit but vista available.

8's issue isn't hardware or kernel related its stupid design choice related. When people are developing work arounds for your interface during your in-house beta and all beta's there after you don't stubbornly double down and send out that interface but modify it. This is to hard for MS to wrap their ego around however.
 
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