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(Chicago Trib)   Here's a really great idea that's sure to get us tons of great publicity: Let's invite the relatives of the Aurora massacre victims to the grand re-opening of the movie theater in which their loved ones perished   (chicagotribune.com ) divider line
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2013-01-02 06:52:39 PM  
Hard to say what was in the theater or Cinemark management's mind. To me, it's a tough call, open quietly and not acknowledge the incident or the relatives, or remember the victims and their relatives as part of the reopening.

Also, I gather from the article that Cinemark/Aurora didn't publicize the invitations, the family members did. If Cinemark publicized an 'Evening of Remembrance and a movie', that's tasteless..If they privately sent out an invitation to each person they knew were effected, that's either an attempt to acknowledge the survivors and the tragedy rather than try to sweep it all under the rug, or a publicity stunt to curry favor with the public, hard to know which..
 
2013-01-02 06:54:45 PM  

The_Sponge: Shadowknight: My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.

American ghosts:

"Ooooooooooooooooooooo...."

Spanish ghosts:

"Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy........"


Strangely, I do hear whispers, but since I can't understand them I feel free to ignore them.

/just kidding
//because ghosts are BS
///was still hooked on Ghost Hunters for a while anyway, though
 
2013-01-02 06:58:20 PM  

Traumtanzer: Hard to say what was in the theater or Cinemark management's mind. To me, it's a tough call, open quietly and not acknowledge the incident or the relatives, or remember the victims and their relatives as part of the reopening.

Also, I gather from the article that Cinemark/Aurora didn't publicize the invitations, the family members did. If Cinemark publicized an 'Evening of Remembrance and a movie', that's tasteless..If they privately sent out an invitation to each person they knew were effected, that's either an attempt to acknowledge the survivors and the tragedy rather than try to sweep it all under the rug, or a publicity stunt to curry favor with the public, hard to know which..


I agree with you. I'd like to see an image of one of these invitations by the victims before condemning or applauding Cinemark. Is the invitation hand-written or printed up? How many paragraphs are devoted to the 'night of remembrance' compared to the offer of a movie? Is the movie comped? Are concessions comped? Is there a movie pass in there that can be redeemed at any time if the victim in question isn't at the point where they're ready to go back into the theatre during the re-opening? Is there any other kind of standing offer without expiration contained in the invitation?

These are all questions that need answered by the invitations in question. The evidence will say more than the victims or Cinemark will.
 
2013-01-02 07:05:47 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Considering the fact that Cinemark is a right wing corporation (famously, Mourdock's biggest campaign contributor) and that right wing policies led directly to the shooting of their relatives, I agree with them that it is disgusting.

Dear Next Crazy Guy,

Go shoot up Cinemark HQ.

Thanks.


They're a "right wing" corporation?

Only an asshole tries to turn tragedy to political gain.

Everyone needs to stop pissing their pants over this. For one thing, this is old news. The decision was made and announced a couple of months ago. For another thing, what do you expect them to do? Tear it down and build a new theater? Build one across the street? Turn it into a park? Life goes on.
 
2013-01-02 07:09:17 PM  
Um,

*cue bear with arms outstretched, paws up*
 
2013-01-02 07:16:48 PM  

Nem Wan: So I'm not getting how this was a bad idea. Relatives of 9/11 victims were invited to the WTC site.


For a reverent and touching tribute to a horrible national tragedy, not a screening of Wreck It Ralph.
 
2013-01-02 07:22:05 PM  

The Why Not Guy: Normally I'm all for freedom of speech but this is like yelling "ready, aim, fire!" in a crowded movie theater.


Those sneaky keeds!
 
2013-01-02 07:30:43 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-02 07:31:10 PM  
The ticket is free and you get a book of coupons to relive the horror.

5% off a large popcorn? Sorry my late son, that's too big a deal!
 
2013-01-02 07:35:09 PM  
For a small premium, you can buy the "victim experience" and sit in the same seat your beloved took their last breaths in!

Please, no cell phones.
 
2013-01-02 07:36:46 PM  
Last year 500 people got murdered in Chicago. Should they close down Chicago?
 
2013-01-02 07:37:06 PM  

jayhawk88: Nem Wan: So I'm not getting how this was a bad idea. Relatives of 9/11 victims were invited to the WTC site.

For a reverent and touching tribute to a horrible national tragedy, not a screening of Wreck It Ralph.


Lol
 
2013-01-02 07:38:54 PM  
I've yet to see The Dark Knight Rises. I heard the story has too many holes
 
2013-01-02 07:40:00 PM  

Traumtanzer: Hard to say what was in the theater or Cinemark management's mind. To me, it's a tough call, open quietly and not acknowledge the incident or the relatives, or remember the victims and their relatives as part of the reopening.

Also, I gather from the article that Cinemark/Aurora didn't publicize the invitations, the family members did. If Cinemark publicized an 'Evening of Remembrance and a movie', that's tasteless..If they privately sent out an invitation to each person they knew were effected, that's either an attempt to acknowledge the survivors and the tragedy rather than try to sweep it all under the rug, or a publicity stunt to curry favor with the public, hard to know which..


This.

I read in an article that Cinemark's getting sued by some of the families. Why is beyond me...
 
2013-01-02 07:40:17 PM  

CruiserTwelve: Last year 500 people got murdered in Chicago. Should they close down Chicago?


Well... yeah, actually, they kinda should.
 
2013-01-02 07:41:45 PM  
Now haunted movie theater.
www.zodiackiller.com
 
2013-01-02 07:43:00 PM  
And this is one of those ideas that looks great on paper ("let's do a quiet ceremony to remember the victims and invite the families") and in reality has horrible, disgusting implications ("come do business in the place your loved ones took their last breath! half-off popcorn!").

This, folks, is why we get second opinions.
 
2013-01-02 07:43:02 PM  
Well, a double dumbass on you Cinemark.
 
2013-01-02 07:44:30 PM  

gilgigamesh: Wow.

I figured they would just tear the farker down and call it a loss.  Forget the victims' relatives: who the hell will be able to go and enjoy a movie there without thinking about what happened?


In about a year or so? Nearly everyone except the ones invited this time.
 
2013-01-02 07:47:50 PM  

scotchcrotch: I've yet to see The Dark Knight Rises. I heard the story has too many holes


*sniff-sniff*

*takin' it*

Um, I was unimpressed overall, sort of bored,  really unimpressed with the choreographed manify, and generally unenthused with some of the dialogue. But, whatever, to enculturate is a powerful infinitive, no?

Way too much credit was given to the stealth operating device.

Oh well. We live.

*)
 
2013-01-02 07:50:33 PM  
Hell, the ticket isn't that much.

Now if snacks are included, THAT'S a tribute.
 
2013-01-02 08:02:51 PM  
You know, sometimes people try to do something right but they're too close to whatever it is to understand that maybe it's not an appropriate gesture. I really doubt that anyone who works at Cinemark leadership was unaffected by the knowledge that all those people were murdered in one of their theaters.
 
2013-01-02 08:03:42 PM  

wambu: Will they be showing The Dark Knight Rises?

/they should


Night of the Living Dead.
 
2013-01-02 08:06:25 PM  
Meh. Clackamas Town Center reopened a few days after the psycho shoot the place up. Is it that they didn't wait enough days per victim that has people upset?
 
2013-01-02 08:08:16 PM  
They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)
 
2013-01-02 08:08:51 PM  

Indubitably: They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)


I mean it.

Do it, now.
 
2013-01-02 08:13:47 PM  

Valiente: Poland's tourist ministry would like a word.

[www.fototime.com image 800x517]


Weird, that doesn't look like Polish to me.


/know it was in Poland

//my Polish grandma spent the war in a labor camp so yeah I'll get biatchy about that little detail, sorry

 
2013-01-02 08:23:29 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)

I mean it.

Do it, now.


P.S. I disagree with you on the National Teacher Tease-t, wholeheartedly. Quit quizzifying American education. Tests, especially standardized ones, don't ultimately prove anything. Not in new economies. Tests, actually, prove to be lesser predictors of behavior than say, your sexual organs, so, think about that. And that's that.
 
2013-01-02 08:23:43 PM  
I hope they aren't showing The Hobbit. According to Fark, it would bore the families to death..
 
2013-01-02 08:24:36 PM  

Indubitably: They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)


Haven't enough vegetables already come out of that place?


/I feel bad now
 
2013-01-02 08:24:53 PM  

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Valiente: Poland's tourist ministry would like a word.

[www.fototime.com image 800x517]

Weird, that doesn't look like Polish to me.
/know it was in Poland//my Polish grandma spent the war in a labor camp so yeah I'll get biatchy about that little detail, sorry


You and me, darlin', we are hot, no?
 
2013-01-02 08:31:51 PM  

Cyclometh: You know, sometimes people try to do something right but they're too close to whatever it is to understand that maybe it's not an appropriate gesture. I really doubt that anyone who works at Cinemark leadership was unaffected by the knowledge that all those people were murdered in one of their theaters.


Define "unaffected". Was there anyone in the entire country who didn't hear the news and think it was horrible?

How was "Cinemark leadership" more affected than some executive at a competing theater chain? Only in one way and that was because they had to deal with the publicity and one of their locations being a crime scene.

All of the "leadership" at the competing chains probably thought it was a terrible tragedy too, but I guarantee you they all were thinking "Thank God it wasn't one of ours."

So does that mean the "Cinemark leadership" felt any more of a connection to the victims or their families?

I doubt it.
 
2013-01-02 08:34:03 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Indubitably: They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)

Haven't enough vegetables already come out of that place?


/I feel bad now


//You should?
 
2013-01-02 08:37:23 PM  

Mikey1969: DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

So much this!! People have been sneaking into movie theaters since they were invented, it's not like this was some huge "security hole" pointed out to Cinemark and ignored. It was the back farking door of a movie theater, Cinemark had absolutely shiat to do with the people dying. As for the offer in TFA, I think it was Cinemark trying to be nice, I don't think they were trying to be "disgusting", and the '2 days after Christmas' thing wasn't designed to rub salt in open wounds, either. These people need to move the fark on. They're probably just pissed because the kids in Connecticut took all of their 'Look at me! Someone I loved has died" money.

As for the people who think it would be hard to watch a movie there, I go to Trolley Square here in Salt Lake all the time, and hardly ever think about the guy who went on a rampage there in '06. I think about it more when driving by, only because I can picture him crossing from the parking lot across the street... I could go to the Aurora theater and watch a movie. Besides, it's like in The World According To Garp, it's been "pre-disastered".


Agree 100%. The victims' families could have just not gone and/or not accepted the free offer, shut their traps, and then get on with their lives.
 
2013-01-02 08:39:15 PM  
Question: Did they JUST invite these people? Or did something go out to everyone in the area saying the theatre was re-opening?
 
2013-01-02 08:47:22 PM  

DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?


Maybe they should have thought twice before they stuck up signs that banned guns then. They deserve to be sued as they contributed to the deaths. The reason he picked that theater in the first place was because it was a gun free zone unlike the 6 other theaters in his area that all were playing the same movie that were not gun free zones, Including one that was closer that held more people/targets.

Maybe we should ban gun free zones next based upon the number of people that have been killed by them in just this year alone.
 
2013-01-02 08:52:09 PM  
They could've just done nothing. Instead they invite family members to a private memorial event and movie despite the fact that they are in not to blame for what happened. Those bastards.
 
2013-01-02 09:00:52 PM  
If you don't invite the families to the re-opening, YOU CATCH shiat. If you do invite the families to the re-opening, YOU CATCH shiat.

To me, it was sensible to invite them. The theater needs to re-open. The families can choose to not show up, or they can show up. It wont be a happy re-opening, but may give the families a chance to seek some closure.
 
2013-01-02 09:01:18 PM  
When a Brown's Chicken was robbed and 4(?) people were killed, not only did Borwn's have to bulldoze that location, the ENTIRE CHAIN lost business that they bareky recovred from. They have about 1/4 the locations they had.

All because the news kept saying "The Brown's Chicken" murders.

I dont' think the business should have to be one more victim of the scum that did the crime.

BUT the theater should have renamed the place and done a low key reopening. When movie-goers look for where the movie is playing they'll go where it is.
 
2013-01-02 09:12:19 PM  

Valiente: Poland's tourist ministry would like a word.


That's a little different ... places like that need to be kept as a reminder of past mistakes.

/ the piles of shoes and toys are really hard to see
 
2013-01-02 09:12:56 PM  
i796.photobucket.com
don't be a pussy
 
2013-01-02 09:16:01 PM  

Benjimin_Dover: DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?

Maybe they should have thought twice before they stuck up signs that banned guns then. They deserve to be sued as they contributed to the deaths. The reason he picked that theater in the first place was because it was a gun free zone unlike the 6 other theaters in his area that all were playing the same movie that were not gun free zones, Including one that was closer that held more people/targets.

Maybe we should ban gun free zones next based upon the number of people that have been killed by them in just this year alone.


To paraphrase the NRA, "Gun free zones don't kill people, people with guns kill people"

Scotland is one big gun free zone (we have neither open carry nor CCW) and your chances of being shot are 50 times less than in America. Food for thought.
 
2013-01-02 09:19:52 PM  

StrandedInAZ: Shadowknight: Yeah, I think so too. Just quietly reopen. Business may suffer for a bit, but come on. The world is an old place, and you go back far enough someone probably died on every part of it at some point. My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.

A friend of our here bought a so-called murder house in which a teenager had killed his entire family. That house sat empty without a buyer for a long time. The friend bought it for about half of its value. Had it been on the market when I was house shopping, I'd have scooped it up.


... and invited the surviving relatives round for a BBQ and target shooting contest?
 
2013-01-02 09:25:28 PM  

bossuniversalAA: [i796.photobucket.com image 600x389]
don't be a pussy


"Sexy firearm is sexy, but bears don't need ammunition...

They employ bear arms.

*cue bear with arms outstretched, paws up*"
 
2013-01-02 09:25:43 PM  

netringer: When a Brown's Chicken was robbed and 4(?) people were killed, not only did Borwn's have to bulldoze that location, the ENTIRE CHAIN lost business that they bareky recovred from. They have about 1/4 the locations they had.

All because the news kept saying "The Brown's Chicken" murders.

I dont' think the business should have to be one more victim of the scum that did the crime.

BUT the theater should have renamed the place and done a low key reopening. When movie-goers look for where the movie is playing they'll go where it is.


A dude was recently caught for robbing a store or something, and was caught at my favorite burrito joint. If the product is good enough nobody cars. Burritos win.
 
2013-01-02 09:31:48 PM  
So, has the theater taken care of those pesky emergency doors that anyone can use without trigerring an alarm ? I thought it was well known that people could get in through them...
 
2013-01-02 09:34:22 PM  

Indubitably: Tests, actually, prove to be lesser predictors of behavior than say, your sexual organs, so, think about that. And that's that.


Some teachers are already examining their students' sexual organs. How's that working out?
 
2013-01-02 09:43:34 PM  

wambu: Indubitably: Tests, actually, prove to be lesser predictors of behavior than say, your sexual organs, so, think about that. And that's that.

Some teachers are already examining their students' sexual organs. How's that working out?


I label you a button-pusher who fails at pushing the right buttons, so...

You do the math-buttons.

*)
 
2013-01-02 09:44:16 PM  

Indubitably: wambu: Indubitably: Tests, actually, prove to be lesser predictors of behavior than say, your sexual organs, so, think about that. And that's that.

Some teachers are already examining their students' sexual organs. How's that working out?

I label you a button-pusher who fails at pushing the right buttons, so...

You do the math-buttons.

*)


To button?
 
2013-01-02 09:45:01 PM  
Press.
 
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