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(Chicago Trib)   Here's a really great idea that's sure to get us tons of great publicity: Let's invite the relatives of the Aurora massacre victims to the grand re-opening of the movie theater in which their loved ones perished   (chicagotribune.com) divider line 146
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2013-01-02 02:27:33 PM
Throw in some free pop rocks uh, ju-jubes!
 
2013-01-02 02:31:01 PM
Well, at least they scuttled the plan to rename it the Crosshairs Cinema.
 
2013-01-02 02:31:58 PM

St_Francis_P: Well, at least they scuttled the plan to rename it the Crosshairs Cinema.


Surveyor's Marks Cinema has a better ring to it.
 
2013-01-02 02:32:15 PM
I bet they planned to show TDKR, too
 
2013-01-02 02:34:20 PM
Wow.

I figured they would just tear the farker down and call it a loss.  Forget the victims' relatives: who the hell will be able to go and enjoy a movie there without thinking about what happened?
 
2013-01-02 02:40:21 PM
Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance, Large Buttered Popcorn, Mike and Ikes.

Yup, sounds about right.
 
2013-01-02 02:48:31 PM

gilgigamesh: Wow.

I figured they would just tear the farker down and call it a loss.  Forget the victims' relatives: who the hell will be able to go and enjoy a movie there without thinking about what happened?


Depends on the movie, I guess.  The bullet holes in the seats could make things much more real, and if you throw in some awesome 3D, it could have you wanting to run for the exits.
 
2013-01-02 03:32:36 PM
But other than that, how was the show, Mrs. Lincoln?
 
2013-01-02 03:46:07 PM
All guests receive a free pack of Black Cat firecrackers at the door and a lighter, and are encouraged to use them to celebrate at some point during the movie!
 
2013-01-02 03:51:47 PM
Will they be showing The Dark Knight Rises?

/they should
 
2013-01-02 03:52:13 PM

brap: Denial, Anger, Bargaining, Depression, Acceptance, Large Buttered Popcorn, Mike and Ikes.

Yup, sounds about right.


well played
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-01-02 03:52:57 PM
What a dumb-ass idea.  I would have kept it as low key as possible.
 
2013-01-02 04:04:02 PM
I'm curious to know what movie they think would be appropriate. Feel-good romantic comedy?
 
2013-01-02 04:09:41 PM

Confabulat: I'm curious to know what movie they think would be appropriate. Feel-good romantic comedy?


For example, "When Harry Shot Sally"?
 
2013-01-02 04:18:14 PM
FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?
 
2013-01-02 04:35:45 PM

Confabulat: I'm curious to know what movie they think would be appropriate. Feel-good romantic comedy?


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2013-01-02 04:47:10 PM

DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?


I'm guessing that if they accept the free ticket and turn it over, the small print will say something along the lines of "By accepting this free ticket to a movie, and using said ticket at Aurora Cinemark Theatres, the user agrees that all claims against said theater for all past actions and damages, known and unknown, are satisfied to the fullest extent."

Always read the fine print.
 
2013-01-02 05:04:05 PM
Correct use of the dumbass tag.  What on earth were they thinking?  Somebody actually thought this was a good idea?  The mind boggles.
 
2013-01-02 05:38:51 PM
The movies are free- right?
 
2013-01-02 05:56:41 PM

vpb: What a dumb-ass idea.  I would have kept it as low key as possible.


Yeah, I think so too. Just quietly reopen. Business may suffer for a bit, but come on. The world is an old place, and you go back far enough someone probably died on every part of it at some point. My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.

So reopen, definitely. But don't specifically invite the families of the victims and don't make a big deal of it. Just, open and go. Drawing attention with a big grand reopening makes you look callous and inhuman.

.
 
2013-01-02 06:00:02 PM
Gotham City needs a hero...
 
2013-01-02 06:01:32 PM
And free tickets to "Skyfall".
 
2013-01-02 06:02:50 PM
Poland's tourist ministry would like a word.

www.fototime.com
 
2013-01-02 06:03:05 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: The movies are free- right?


Shhh. Everyone is going to have their kids killed there now!
 
2013-01-02 06:04:53 PM
They should tell everyone invited that there will also be free shots.
 
2013-01-02 06:05:45 PM
Considering the fact that Cinemark is a right wing corporation (famously, Mourdock's biggest campaign contributor) and that right wing policies led directly to the shooting of their relatives, I agree with them that it is disgusting.

Dear Next Crazy Guy,

Go shoot up Cinemark HQ.

Thanks.
 
2013-01-02 06:07:59 PM

DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?


^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

So much this!! People have been sneaking into movie theaters since they were invented, it's not like this was some huge "security hole" pointed out to Cinemark and ignored. It was the back farking door of a movie theater, Cinemark had absolutely shiat to do with the people dying. As for the offer in TFA, I think it was Cinemark trying to be nice, I don't think they were trying to be "disgusting", and the '2 days after Christmas' thing wasn't designed to rub salt in open wounds, either. These people need to move the fark on. They're probably just pissed because the kids in Connecticut took all of their 'Look at me! Someone I loved has died" money.

As for the people who think it would be hard to watch a movie there, I go to Trolley Square here in Salt Lake all the time, and hardly ever think about the guy who went on a rampage there in '06. I think about it more when driving by, only because I can picture him crossing from the parking lot across the street... I could go to the Aurora theater and watch a movie. Besides, it's like in The World According To Garp, it's been "pre-disastered".
 
2013-01-02 06:09:14 PM
So I'm not getting how this was a bad idea. Relatives of 9/11 victims were invited to the WTC site.
 
2013-01-02 06:11:55 PM
Might give them some closure.

Worth a shot...
 
2013-01-02 06:12:15 PM

Just another Heartland Weirdass: Because People in power are Stupid: The movies are free- right?

Shhh. Everyone is going to have their kids killed there now!


Actually the theater intends to do free movies for a few weeks to attempt to coerce people to come back. I never really liked going to that theater. The mall it's next to is a scummy place, and I stopped going there several years prior after a little old lady got caught in the middle of a gang dispute and ended up dead just before Christmas.
 
2013-01-02 06:13:09 PM
The families are complaining about a free movie?

If they were given a bar of gold they'd probably complain how heavy it was.
 
2013-01-02 06:13:59 PM

Shadowknight: vpb: What a dumb-ass idea.  I would have kept it as low key as possible.

Yeah, I think so too. Just quietly reopen. Business may suffer for a bit, but come on. The world is an old place, and you go back far enough someone probably died on every part of it at some point. My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.

So reopen, definitely. But don't specifically invite the families of the victims and don't make a big deal of it. Just, open and go. Drawing attention with a big grand reopening makes you look callous and inhuman.

.


This ^^^^^^

It would be different if it were a different kind of business. A movie theater is a place of entertainment and including entertainment as part of an "evening of remembrance" is just wrong. The two public places local to me that had recent mass shootings also reopened, but handled it appropriately IMHO: The Sikh Temple of Wisconsin reopened with a remembrance service and community meal (keeping with the tenets of their religion) and the Azana Spa just reopened with no fanfare.
 
2013-01-02 06:14:16 PM
Am I the only person who actually felt this is probably less tasteless than the article makes it sound? It doesn't sound like the company put out a big ad in the local newspaper inviting victims and those affected by the tragedy to show up. It sounds like they sent individual invitations to each of those affected. I think that's fairly 'low key'. What isn't low key is the victims' response to it, which is well within their right to do.

The article does say it was about a 'night of remembrance' followed by a movie. And to me that seems fairly tasteful, it seems like they're legitimately trying to help heal wounds instead of making a cash grab. It would be tasteless if they actually charged those victims and their families to see the movie, and if they charged them for concessions. But the article doesn't say either way. But I'm willing to bet everything was comped by the theatre.

Whether it was 'too soon' or not, it's not my place to say. I wasn't affected by it. People heal differently, but the business itself does not. It has to re-open if the theatre owners want to keep making a living, and it isn't their fault a customer decided to snap and go on a shooting spree. We haven't even seen what the invitations to the victims actually said, or if there was anything else in them. If it was my movie theatre, I'd have at least put in the invitation that they're given free movie passes that can be redeemed at any point in their life if they didn't want to attend the re-opening. If they didn't do something like that, then yeah, that is kind of tasteless.

But as for the theatre itself... this is how you heal. This is how you conquer. This is how you make sure people like that psychopath don't win. You re-open, and you have life proceed as normally as possible. You re-open your theatre, you invite the victims and their families to attend in order to both remember the tragedy, and to show that life goes on, and that life can continue normally. You comp their tickets and their concessions, and you play a nice light-hearted, G-rated movie. And if the victims and their families aren't ready for that, you give them a lifetime movie pass that they can redeem whenever they want.

The article is very scarce on specific details, but I'm willing to guess it isn't nearly as cold-blooded as the article says it is.
 
2013-01-02 06:16:02 PM
Be sure to tell them the sticky stuff on the floor is soda.
 
2013-01-02 06:20:00 PM
And then the Gremlins will take it over
 
2013-01-02 06:20:27 PM

DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?


Yes, I can blame them.
 
2013-01-02 06:20:33 PM

Shadowknight: vpb: What a dumb-ass idea.  I would have kept it as low key as possible.

Yeah, I think so too. Just quietly reopen. Business may suffer for a bit, but come on. The world is an old place, and you go back far enough someone probably died on every part of it at some point. My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.

So reopen, definitely. But don't specifically invite the families of the victims and don't make a big deal of it. Just, open and go. Drawing attention with a big grand reopening makes you look callous and inhuman.

.


First king Spaniards
 
2013-01-02 06:20:42 PM

Weatherkiss: Am I the only person who actually felt this is probably less tasteless than the article makes it sound?
*snipped for brevity*
The article is very scarce on specific details, but I'm willing to guess it isn't nearly as cold-blooded as the article says it is.




You are not the only one. As I mentioned before, having a movie as part of the remembrance is a bit tasteless, IMO, but the rest of it is fine.
 
2013-01-02 06:24:36 PM

catmandu: Weatherkiss: Am I the only person who actually felt this is probably less tasteless than the article makes it sound?
*snipped for brevity*
The article is very scarce on specific details, but I'm willing to guess it isn't nearly as cold-blooded as the article says it is.

You are not the only one. As I mentioned before, having a movie as part of the remembrance is a bit tasteless, IMO, but the rest of it is fine.


If only we could read minds. If we could, I would bet money that someone somewhere in the Cinemark hierarchy was hoping this would generate a heartwarming human interest story in the local press. This was about publicity. And it was tasteless.
 
2013-01-02 06:25:59 PM
I figure you're aiming to make friends with your target audience, so lets give it a shot. But I don't have all day so get the lead out.
 
2013-01-02 06:27:03 PM
I thought it was a silly waste to tear down the McDonald's in San Ysidro, but as I got older, it made more sense.
 
2013-01-02 06:31:59 PM
Damned if they do, damned if they don't. People were already complaining that the theatre wasn't reaching out enough to the families of the victims, so now they do and they get vilified for it? Neither the offer or the timing seem tasteless to me, they're in the movie business, so they are offering what they have to offer, a movie, if the shooting was in a restaurant, I'd assume a meal would be offered. What's the big deal?
 
2013-01-02 06:32:03 PM
Sorry I'm late, I'll just pop in the side door.
 
2013-01-02 06:35:16 PM

mittromneysdog: catmandu: Weatherkiss: Am I the only person who actually felt this is probably less tasteless than the article makes it sound?
*snipped for brevity*
The article is very scarce on specific details, but I'm willing to guess it isn't nearly as cold-blooded as the article says it is.

You are not the only one. As I mentioned before, having a movie as part of the remembrance is a bit tasteless, IMO, but the rest of it is fine.

If only we could read minds. If we could, I would bet money that someone somewhere in the Cinemark hierarchy was hoping this would generate a heartwarming human interest story in the local press. This was about publicity. And it was tasteless.


Is it possible that maybe they didn't intend it to hit the press at all? The only part of the article that says where it started was by the victims themselves. They decided to air these invitations to the press, not Cinemark. I mean it's within their right to go with the press and say it was tasteless for Cinemark to give them these invitations, but that would be on their behalf to do so, not Cinemark's.

They already have shown they want money from Cinemark, and by taking these invitations to the press, it could be a ploy to get money from them. Cinemark could have just wanted to keep it low key, and send invitations privately, the contents of the invitations we haven't actually seen. The article just shows the victims' side of the story. And the article reads as an attempt to generate outrage against the theatre for sympathy, given its lack of specific details.
 
2013-01-02 06:37:30 PM
Normally I'm all for freedom of speech but this is like yelling "ready, aim, fire!" in a crowded movie theater.
 
2013-01-02 06:40:15 PM
Yeah I saw this locally, thought it was in pretty poor taste. So your loved ones died in a movie theater? Here's free tickets to that theater!
 
2013-01-02 06:41:09 PM

Shadowknight: My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.


American ghosts:

"Ooooooooooooooooooooo...."

Spanish ghosts:

"Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy........"
 
2013-01-02 06:46:37 PM

Shadowknight: Yeah, I think so too. Just quietly reopen. Business may suffer for a bit, but come on. The world is an old place, and you go back far enough someone probably died on every part of it at some point. My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.


A friend of our here bought a so-called murder house in which a teenager had killed his entire family. That house sat empty without a buyer for a long time. The friend bought it for about half of its value. Had it been on the market when I was house shopping, I'd have scooped it up.
 
2013-01-02 06:46:40 PM

Nem Wan: So I'm not getting how this was a bad idea. Relatives of 9/11 victims were invited to the WTC site.


I wasn't aware that the WTC site is billed as fun and entertainment for the whole family.
 
2013-01-02 06:50:10 PM
Don't waste a good building.
 
2013-01-02 06:52:39 PM
Hard to say what was in the theater or Cinemark management's mind. To me, it's a tough call, open quietly and not acknowledge the incident or the relatives, or remember the victims and their relatives as part of the reopening.

Also, I gather from the article that Cinemark/Aurora didn't publicize the invitations, the family members did. If Cinemark publicized an 'Evening of Remembrance and a movie', that's tasteless..If they privately sent out an invitation to each person they knew were effected, that's either an attempt to acknowledge the survivors and the tragedy rather than try to sweep it all under the rug, or a publicity stunt to curry favor with the public, hard to know which..
 
2013-01-02 06:54:45 PM

The_Sponge: Shadowknight: My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.

American ghosts:

"Ooooooooooooooooooooo...."

Spanish ghosts:

"Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy........"


Strangely, I do hear whispers, but since I can't understand them I feel free to ignore them.

/just kidding
//because ghosts are BS
///was still hooked on Ghost Hunters for a while anyway, though
 
2013-01-02 06:58:20 PM

Traumtanzer: Hard to say what was in the theater or Cinemark management's mind. To me, it's a tough call, open quietly and not acknowledge the incident or the relatives, or remember the victims and their relatives as part of the reopening.

Also, I gather from the article that Cinemark/Aurora didn't publicize the invitations, the family members did. If Cinemark publicized an 'Evening of Remembrance and a movie', that's tasteless..If they privately sent out an invitation to each person they knew were effected, that's either an attempt to acknowledge the survivors and the tragedy rather than try to sweep it all under the rug, or a publicity stunt to curry favor with the public, hard to know which..


I agree with you. I'd like to see an image of one of these invitations by the victims before condemning or applauding Cinemark. Is the invitation hand-written or printed up? How many paragraphs are devoted to the 'night of remembrance' compared to the offer of a movie? Is the movie comped? Are concessions comped? Is there a movie pass in there that can be redeemed at any time if the victim in question isn't at the point where they're ready to go back into the theatre during the re-opening? Is there any other kind of standing offer without expiration contained in the invitation?

These are all questions that need answered by the invitations in question. The evidence will say more than the victims or Cinemark will.
 
2013-01-02 07:05:47 PM

Insatiable Jesus: Considering the fact that Cinemark is a right wing corporation (famously, Mourdock's biggest campaign contributor) and that right wing policies led directly to the shooting of their relatives, I agree with them that it is disgusting.

Dear Next Crazy Guy,

Go shoot up Cinemark HQ.

Thanks.


They're a "right wing" corporation?

Only an asshole tries to turn tragedy to political gain.

Everyone needs to stop pissing their pants over this. For one thing, this is old news. The decision was made and announced a couple of months ago. For another thing, what do you expect them to do? Tear it down and build a new theater? Build one across the street? Turn it into a park? Life goes on.
 
2013-01-02 07:09:17 PM
Um,

*cue bear with arms outstretched, paws up*
 
2013-01-02 07:16:48 PM

Nem Wan: So I'm not getting how this was a bad idea. Relatives of 9/11 victims were invited to the WTC site.


For a reverent and touching tribute to a horrible national tragedy, not a screening of Wreck It Ralph.
 
2013-01-02 07:22:05 PM

The Why Not Guy: Normally I'm all for freedom of speech but this is like yelling "ready, aim, fire!" in a crowded movie theater.


Those sneaky keeds!
 
2013-01-02 07:30:43 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-02 07:31:10 PM
The ticket is free and you get a book of coupons to relive the horror.

5% off a large popcorn? Sorry my late son, that's too big a deal!
 
2013-01-02 07:35:09 PM
For a small premium, you can buy the "victim experience" and sit in the same seat your beloved took their last breaths in!

Please, no cell phones.
 
2013-01-02 07:36:46 PM
Last year 500 people got murdered in Chicago. Should they close down Chicago?
 
2013-01-02 07:37:06 PM

jayhawk88: Nem Wan: So I'm not getting how this was a bad idea. Relatives of 9/11 victims were invited to the WTC site.

For a reverent and touching tribute to a horrible national tragedy, not a screening of Wreck It Ralph.


Lol
 
2013-01-02 07:38:54 PM
I've yet to see The Dark Knight Rises. I heard the story has too many holes
 
2013-01-02 07:40:00 PM

Traumtanzer: Hard to say what was in the theater or Cinemark management's mind. To me, it's a tough call, open quietly and not acknowledge the incident or the relatives, or remember the victims and their relatives as part of the reopening.

Also, I gather from the article that Cinemark/Aurora didn't publicize the invitations, the family members did. If Cinemark publicized an 'Evening of Remembrance and a movie', that's tasteless..If they privately sent out an invitation to each person they knew were effected, that's either an attempt to acknowledge the survivors and the tragedy rather than try to sweep it all under the rug, or a publicity stunt to curry favor with the public, hard to know which..


This.

I read in an article that Cinemark's getting sued by some of the families. Why is beyond me...
 
2013-01-02 07:40:17 PM

CruiserTwelve: Last year 500 people got murdered in Chicago. Should they close down Chicago?


Well... yeah, actually, they kinda should.
 
2013-01-02 07:41:45 PM
Now haunted movie theater.
www.zodiackiller.com
 
2013-01-02 07:43:00 PM
And this is one of those ideas that looks great on paper ("let's do a quiet ceremony to remember the victims and invite the families") and in reality has horrible, disgusting implications ("come do business in the place your loved ones took their last breath! half-off popcorn!").

This, folks, is why we get second opinions.
 
2013-01-02 07:43:02 PM
Well, a double dumbass on you Cinemark.
 
2013-01-02 07:44:30 PM

gilgigamesh: Wow.

I figured they would just tear the farker down and call it a loss.  Forget the victims' relatives: who the hell will be able to go and enjoy a movie there without thinking about what happened?


In about a year or so? Nearly everyone except the ones invited this time.
 
2013-01-02 07:47:50 PM

scotchcrotch: I've yet to see The Dark Knight Rises. I heard the story has too many holes


*sniff-sniff*

*takin' it*

Um, I was unimpressed overall, sort of bored,  really unimpressed with the choreographed manify, and generally unenthused with some of the dialogue. But, whatever, to enculturate is a powerful infinitive, no?

Way too much credit was given to the stealth operating device.

Oh well. We live.

*)
 
2013-01-02 07:50:33 PM
Hell, the ticket isn't that much.

Now if snacks are included, THAT'S a tribute.
 
2013-01-02 08:02:51 PM
You know, sometimes people try to do something right but they're too close to whatever it is to understand that maybe it's not an appropriate gesture. I really doubt that anyone who works at Cinemark leadership was unaffected by the knowledge that all those people were murdered in one of their theaters.
 
2013-01-02 08:03:42 PM

wambu: Will they be showing The Dark Knight Rises?

/they should


Night of the Living Dead.
 
2013-01-02 08:06:25 PM
Meh. Clackamas Town Center reopened a few days after the psycho shoot the place up. Is it that they didn't wait enough days per victim that has people upset?
 
2013-01-02 08:08:16 PM
They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)
 
2013-01-02 08:08:51 PM

Indubitably: They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)


I mean it.

Do it, now.
 
2013-01-02 08:13:47 PM

Valiente: Poland's tourist ministry would like a word.

[www.fototime.com image 800x517]


Weird, that doesn't look like Polish to me.


/know it was in Poland

//my Polish grandma spent the war in a labor camp so yeah I'll get biatchy about that little detail, sorry

 
2013-01-02 08:23:29 PM

Indubitably: Indubitably: They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)

I mean it.

Do it, now.


P.S. I disagree with you on the National Teacher Tease-t, wholeheartedly. Quit quizzifying American education. Tests, especially standardized ones, don't ultimately prove anything. Not in new economies. Tests, actually, prove to be lesser predictors of behavior than say, your sexual organs, so, think about that. And that's that.
 
2013-01-02 08:23:43 PM
I hope they aren't showing The Hobbit. According to Fark, it would bore the families to death..
 
2013-01-02 08:24:36 PM

Indubitably: They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)


Haven't enough vegetables already come out of that place?


/I feel bad now
 
2013-01-02 08:24:53 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Valiente: Poland's tourist ministry would like a word.

[www.fototime.com image 800x517]

Weird, that doesn't look like Polish to me.
/know it was in Poland//my Polish grandma spent the war in a labor camp so yeah I'll get biatchy about that little detail, sorry


You and me, darlin', we are hot, no?
 
2013-01-02 08:31:51 PM

Cyclometh: You know, sometimes people try to do something right but they're too close to whatever it is to understand that maybe it's not an appropriate gesture. I really doubt that anyone who works at Cinemark leadership was unaffected by the knowledge that all those people were murdered in one of their theaters.


Define "unaffected". Was there anyone in the entire country who didn't hear the news and think it was horrible?

How was "Cinemark leadership" more affected than some executive at a competing theater chain? Only in one way and that was because they had to deal with the publicity and one of their locations being a crime scene.

All of the "leadership" at the competing chains probably thought it was a terrible tragedy too, but I guarantee you they all were thinking "Thank God it wasn't one of ours."

So does that mean the "Cinemark leadership" felt any more of a connection to the victims or their families?

I doubt it.
 
2013-01-02 08:34:03 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Indubitably: They should tear it down and turn it into a community garden. And that's that.

*)

Haven't enough vegetables already come out of that place?


/I feel bad now


//You should?
 
2013-01-02 08:37:23 PM

Mikey1969: DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

So much this!! People have been sneaking into movie theaters since they were invented, it's not like this was some huge "security hole" pointed out to Cinemark and ignored. It was the back farking door of a movie theater, Cinemark had absolutely shiat to do with the people dying. As for the offer in TFA, I think it was Cinemark trying to be nice, I don't think they were trying to be "disgusting", and the '2 days after Christmas' thing wasn't designed to rub salt in open wounds, either. These people need to move the fark on. They're probably just pissed because the kids in Connecticut took all of their 'Look at me! Someone I loved has died" money.

As for the people who think it would be hard to watch a movie there, I go to Trolley Square here in Salt Lake all the time, and hardly ever think about the guy who went on a rampage there in '06. I think about it more when driving by, only because I can picture him crossing from the parking lot across the street... I could go to the Aurora theater and watch a movie. Besides, it's like in The World According To Garp, it's been "pre-disastered".


Agree 100%. The victims' families could have just not gone and/or not accepted the free offer, shut their traps, and then get on with their lives.
 
2013-01-02 08:39:15 PM
Question: Did they JUST invite these people? Or did something go out to everyone in the area saying the theatre was re-opening?
 
2013-01-02 08:47:22 PM

DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?


Maybe they should have thought twice before they stuck up signs that banned guns then. They deserve to be sued as they contributed to the deaths. The reason he picked that theater in the first place was because it was a gun free zone unlike the 6 other theaters in his area that all were playing the same movie that were not gun free zones, Including one that was closer that held more people/targets.

Maybe we should ban gun free zones next based upon the number of people that have been killed by them in just this year alone.
 
2013-01-02 08:52:09 PM
They could've just done nothing. Instead they invite family members to a private memorial event and movie despite the fact that they are in not to blame for what happened. Those bastards.
 
2013-01-02 09:00:52 PM
If you don't invite the families to the re-opening, YOU CATCH shiat. If you do invite the families to the re-opening, YOU CATCH shiat.

To me, it was sensible to invite them. The theater needs to re-open. The families can choose to not show up, or they can show up. It wont be a happy re-opening, but may give the families a chance to seek some closure.
 
2013-01-02 09:01:18 PM
When a Brown's Chicken was robbed and 4(?) people were killed, not only did Borwn's have to bulldoze that location, the ENTIRE CHAIN lost business that they bareky recovred from. They have about 1/4 the locations they had.

All because the news kept saying "The Brown's Chicken" murders.

I dont' think the business should have to be one more victim of the scum that did the crime.

BUT the theater should have renamed the place and done a low key reopening. When movie-goers look for where the movie is playing they'll go where it is.
 
2013-01-02 09:12:19 PM

Valiente: Poland's tourist ministry would like a word.


That's a little different ... places like that need to be kept as a reminder of past mistakes.

/ the piles of shoes and toys are really hard to see
 
2013-01-02 09:12:56 PM
i796.photobucket.com
don't be a pussy
 
2013-01-02 09:16:01 PM

Benjimin_Dover: DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?

Maybe they should have thought twice before they stuck up signs that banned guns then. They deserve to be sued as they contributed to the deaths. The reason he picked that theater in the first place was because it was a gun free zone unlike the 6 other theaters in his area that all were playing the same movie that were not gun free zones, Including one that was closer that held more people/targets.

Maybe we should ban gun free zones next based upon the number of people that have been killed by them in just this year alone.


To paraphrase the NRA, "Gun free zones don't kill people, people with guns kill people"

Scotland is one big gun free zone (we have neither open carry nor CCW) and your chances of being shot are 50 times less than in America. Food for thought.
 
2013-01-02 09:19:52 PM

StrandedInAZ: Shadowknight: Yeah, I think so too. Just quietly reopen. Business may suffer for a bit, but come on. The world is an old place, and you go back far enough someone probably died on every part of it at some point. My house I'm renting here in Spain is about 120+ years old. Someone probably died in the very bedroom I type this in right now.

A friend of our here bought a so-called murder house in which a teenager had killed his entire family. That house sat empty without a buyer for a long time. The friend bought it for about half of its value. Had it been on the market when I was house shopping, I'd have scooped it up.


... and invited the surviving relatives round for a BBQ and target shooting contest?
 
2013-01-02 09:25:28 PM

bossuniversalAA: [i796.photobucket.com image 600x389]
don't be a pussy


"Sexy firearm is sexy, but bears don't need ammunition...

They employ bear arms.

*cue bear with arms outstretched, paws up*"
 
2013-01-02 09:25:43 PM

netringer: When a Brown's Chicken was robbed and 4(?) people were killed, not only did Borwn's have to bulldoze that location, the ENTIRE CHAIN lost business that they bareky recovred from. They have about 1/4 the locations they had.

All because the news kept saying "The Brown's Chicken" murders.

I dont' think the business should have to be one more victim of the scum that did the crime.

BUT the theater should have renamed the place and done a low key reopening. When movie-goers look for where the movie is playing they'll go where it is.


A dude was recently caught for robbing a store or something, and was caught at my favorite burrito joint. If the product is good enough nobody cars. Burritos win.
 
2013-01-02 09:31:48 PM
So, has the theater taken care of those pesky emergency doors that anyone can use without trigerring an alarm ? I thought it was well known that people could get in through them...
 
2013-01-02 09:34:22 PM

Indubitably: Tests, actually, prove to be lesser predictors of behavior than say, your sexual organs, so, think about that. And that's that.


Some teachers are already examining their students' sexual organs. How's that working out?
 
2013-01-02 09:43:34 PM

wambu: Indubitably: Tests, actually, prove to be lesser predictors of behavior than say, your sexual organs, so, think about that. And that's that.

Some teachers are already examining their students' sexual organs. How's that working out?


I label you a button-pusher who fails at pushing the right buttons, so...

You do the math-buttons.

*)
 
2013-01-02 09:44:16 PM

Indubitably: wambu: Indubitably: Tests, actually, prove to be lesser predictors of behavior than say, your sexual organs, so, think about that. And that's that.

Some teachers are already examining their students' sexual organs. How's that working out?

I label you a button-pusher who fails at pushing the right buttons, so...

You do the math-buttons.

*)


To button?
 
2013-01-02 09:45:01 PM
Press.
 
2013-01-02 09:52:51 PM
I'm just SO glad to see that the theater has recovered and is moving on.
 
2013-01-02 09:53:10 PM
Indubitably [TotalFark] 2013-01-02 09:25:28 PM

bossuniversalAA: [i796.photobucket.com image 600x389]
don't be a pussy

"Sexy firearm is sexy, but bears don't need ammunition...

They employ bear arms.

*cue bear with arms outstretched, paws up*"


let me spell it out for you...don't let the media manipulate you into manipulating other people
i301.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-02 09:56:07 PM

bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark] 2013-01-02 09:25:28 PM

bossuniversalAA: [i796.photobucket.com image 600x389]
don't be a pussy

"Sexy firearm is sexy, but bears don't need ammunition...

They employ bear arms.

*cue bear with arms outstretched, paws up*"

let me spell it out for you...don't let the media manipulate you into manipulating other people
[i301.photobucket.com image 400x264]


I manipulate my own media, you?
 
2013-01-02 09:57:09 PM
bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark] 2013-01-02 09:25:28 PM

bossuniversalAA: [i796.photobucket.com image 600x389]
don't be a pussy

"Sexy firearm is sexy, but bears don't need ammunition...

They employ bear arms.

*cue bear with arms outstretched, paws up*"

let me spell it out for you...don't let the media manipulate you into manipulating other people
[i301.photobucket.com image 400x264]

I manipulate my own media, you?


fapping doesn't count
 
2013-01-02 09:58:13 PM

Insatiable Jesus: Considering the fact that Cinemark is a right wing corporation (famously, Mourdock's biggest campaign contributor) and that right wing policies led directly to the shooting of their relatives, I agree with them that it is disgusting.

Dear Next Crazy Guy,

Go shoot up Cinemark HQ.

Thanks.


WOW...you're an ass.
 
2013-01-02 10:00:09 PM

bossuniversalAA: bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark] 2013-01-02 09:25:28 PM

bossuniversalAA: [i796.photobucket.com image 600x389]
don't be a pussy

"Sexy firearm is sexy, but bears don't need ammunition...

They employ bear arms.

*cue bear with arms outstretched, paws up*"

let me spell it out for you...don't let the media manipulate you into manipulating other people
[i301.photobucket.com image 400x264]

I manipulate my own media, you?

fapping doesn't count


Cute.

Pay attention.

If you'd have, you'd have noticed already.
 
2013-01-02 10:03:41 PM
good luck trying to out maneuver a think tank stocked with Ph.D.'s.
i796.photobucket.com
jidf
 
2013-01-02 10:10:53 PM

catmandu: The two public places local to me that had recent mass shootings


How long until until almost all of us have at least one local public place that has had a recent mass shooting?

i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-02 10:11:36 PM

bossuniversalAA: good luck trying to out maneuver a think tank stocked with Ph.D.'s.
[i796.photobucket.com image 300x360]
jidf


Anytime.
 
2013-01-02 10:14:54 PM

Indubitably [TotalFark]

2013-01-02 10:11:36 PM

bossuniversalAA: good luck trying to out maneuver a think tank stocked with Ph.D.'s.
[i796.photobucket.com image 300x360]
jidf


Anytime? well here you go.
Link
i97.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-02 10:22:06 PM

Benjimin_Dover: Maybe they should have thought twice before they stuck up signs that banned guns then. They deserve to be sued as they contributed to the deaths. The reason he picked that theater in the first place was because it was a gun free zone unlike the 6 other theaters in his area that all were playing the same movie that were not gun free zones, Including one that was closer that held more people/targets.

Maybe we should ban gun free zones next based upon the number of people that have been killed by them in just this year alone.


That theater was no more a "gun free zone" than any other theaters in the area, and there was no theater closer to his home than the one he chose. (Except a small theater that shows movies with Spanish subtitles). That "gun free zone" story was a fabrication.
 
2013-01-02 10:26:31 PM

bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark]

2013-01-02 10:11:36 PM

bossuniversalAA: good luck trying to out maneuver a think tank stocked with Ph.D.'s.
[i796.photobucket.com image 300x360]
jidf

Anytime? well here you go.
Link
[i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]


Dude, seriously?

That guy is a blowhard-obfuscator-extraordinaire, man.

I've heard him speak already, and he only confirmed my biases at least thrice.

Seriously-squared, you Republicans suck.

And that's that.
 
2013-01-02 10:27:31 PM

Indubitably: bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark]

2013-01-02 10:11:36 PM

bossuniversalAA: good luck trying to out maneuver a think tank stocked with Ph.D.'s.
[i796.photobucket.com image 300x360]
jidf

Anytime? well here you go.
Link
[i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]

Dude, seriously?

That guy is a blowhard-obfuscator-extraordinaire, man.

I've heard him speak already, and he only confirmed my biases at least thrice.

Seriously-squared, you Republicans suck.

And that's that.


P.S. Grow up.
 
2013-01-02 10:28:22 PM

Indubitably: Indubitably: bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark]

2013-01-02 10:11:36 PM

bossuniversalAA: good luck trying to out maneuver a think tank stocked with Ph.D.'s.
[i796.photobucket.com image 300x360]
jidf

Anytime? well here you go.
Link
[i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]

Dude, seriously?

That guy is a blowhard-obfuscator-extraordinaire, man.

I've heard him speak already, and he only confirmed my biases at least thrice.

Seriously-squared, you Republicans suck.

And that's that.

P.S. Grow up.


P.P.S. Intransigence is for suckers.
 
2013-01-02 10:28:38 PM

Clutch2013: Traumtanzer: Hard to say what was in the theater or Cinemark management's mind. To me, it's a tough call, open quietly and not acknowledge the incident or the relatives, or remember the victims and their relatives as part of the reopening.

Also, I gather from the article that Cinemark/Aurora didn't publicize the invitations, the family members did. If Cinemark publicized an 'Evening of Remembrance and a movie', that's tasteless..If they privately sent out an invitation to each person they knew were effected, that's either an attempt to acknowledge the survivors and the tragedy rather than try to sweep it all under the rug, or a publicity stunt to curry favor with the public, hard to know which..

This.

I read in an article that Cinemark's getting sued by some of the families. Why is beyond me...


Because mass murders are the fault of the movie industry.

On a related note, derp.
 
2013-01-02 10:31:14 PM

Indubitably [TotalFark]


Smartest
Funniest

2013-01-02 10:27:31 PM

Indubitably: bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark]

2013-01-02 10:11:36 PM

bossuniversalAA: good luck trying to out maneuver a think tank stocked with Ph.D.'s.
[i796.photobucket.com image 300x360]
jidf

Anytime? well here you go.
Link
[i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]

Dude, seriously?

That guy is a blowhard-obfuscator-extraordinaire, man.

I've heard him speak already, and he only confirmed my biases at least thrice.

Seriously-squared, you Republicans suck.

And that's that.

P.S. Grow up.


first of all, i'm a realist, second of all don't troll people if the term 'fark you' offends you.
 
2013-01-02 10:32:22 PM

bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark]


Smartest
Funniest

2013-01-02 10:27:31 PM

Indubitably: bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark]

2013-01-02 10:11:36 PM

bossuniversalAA: good luck trying to out maneuver a think tank stocked with Ph.D.'s.
[i796.photobucket.com image 300x360]
jidf

Anytime? well here you go.
Link
[i97.photobucket.com image 260x190]

Dude, seriously?

That guy is a blowhard-obfuscator-extraordinaire, man.

I've heard him speak already, and he only confirmed my biases at least thrice.

Seriously-squared, you Republicans suck.

And that's that.

P.S. Grow up.

first of all, i'm a realist, second of all don't troll people if the term 'fark you' offends you.


Say wot, Dub-dub?
 
2013-01-02 10:36:11 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: The movies are free- right?


Large popcorn and a large Coke are only $35 - half price.  Not to mention the people will be saying, "what is this shiat all over the seats?"
 
2013-01-02 10:37:28 PM
On the bright side, I'm sure they meant well.
 
2013-01-02 10:40:29 PM

John Buck 41: On the bright side, I'm sure they meant well.


To judge
 
2013-01-02 10:40:37 PM
i110.photobucket.com
i'm not gonna chat all night. laterz
 
2013-01-02 10:43:01 PM

bossuniversalAA: [i110.photobucket.com image 469x341]
i'm not gonna chat all night. laterz


To easily offend
 
2013-01-02 10:48:19 PM

Indubitably [TotalFark]


Smartest
Funniest

2013-01-02 10:43:01 PM

bossuniversalAA: [i110.photobucket.com image 469x341]
i'm not gonna chat all night. laterz

To easily offend


take on aipac...i'm tired and gotta go. jidf
 
2013-01-02 10:51:37 PM

Mikey1969: DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

So much this!! People have been sneaking into movie theaters since they were invented, it's not like this was some huge "security hole" pointed out to Cinemark and ignored. It was the back farking door of a movie theater, Cinemark had absolutely shiat to do with the people dying. As for the offer in TFA, I think it was Cinemark trying to be nice, I don't think they were trying to be "disgusting", and the '2 days after Christmas' thing wasn't designed to rub salt in open wounds, either. These people need to move the fark on. They're probably just pissed because the kids in Connecticut took all of their 'Look at me! Someone I loved has died" money.

As for the people who think it would be hard to watch a movie there, I go to Trolley Square here in Salt Lake all the time, and hardly ever think about the guy who went on a rampage there in '06. I think about it more when driving by, only because I can picture him crossing from the parking lot across the street... I could go to the Aurora theater and watch a movie. Besides, it's like in The World According To Garp, it's been "pre-disastered".


When you said "Salt Lake", that cleared up some concerns a lot of us had.
 
2013-01-02 10:52:48 PM

bossuniversalAA: Indubitably [TotalFark]


Smartest
Funniest

2013-01-02 10:43:01 PM

bossuniversalAA: [i110.photobucket.com image 469x341]
i'm not gonna chat all night. laterz

To easily offend

take on aipac...i'm tired and gotta go. jidf


How about I take on you in cyberspace, boss? Stand down, JIDF. WTF is wrong with you? Sleep, DA. I am not your enemy.
 
2013-01-02 11:04:16 PM

logicalman: Mikey1969: DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?

^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

So much this!! People have been sneaking into movie theaters since they were invented, it's not like this was some huge "security hole" pointed out to Cinemark and ignored. It was the back farking door of a movie theater, Cinemark had absolutely shiat to do with the people dying. As for the offer in TFA, I think it was Cinemark trying to be nice, I don't think they were trying to be "disgusting", and the '2 days after Christmas' thing wasn't designed to rub salt in open wounds, either. These people need to move the fark on. They're probably just pissed because the kids in Connecticut took all of their 'Look at me! Someone I loved has died" money.

As for the people who think it would be hard to watch a movie there, I go to Trolley Square here in Salt Lake all the time, and hardly ever think about the guy who went on a rampage there in '06. I think about it more when driving by, only because I can picture him crossing from the parking lot across the street... I could go to the Aurora theater and watch a movie. Besides, it's like in The World According To Garp, it's been "pre-disastered".

Agree 100%. The victims' families could have just not gone and/or not accepted the free offer, shut their traps, and then get on with their lives.


When I hear of people suing in situations like this I think it's mix of extreme grief and greedy lawyers. I don't blame the families. I blame the lawyers who see dollar signs out of horrible tragedy. At least I hope this is the case.
 
2013-01-02 11:11:54 PM

nytmare: Nem Wan: So I'm not getting how this was a bad idea. Relatives of 9/11 victims were invited to the WTC site.

I wasn't aware that the WTC site is billed as fun and entertainment for the whole family.


You haven't been there recently have you? It now a cheap tawdry tourist attraction.
 
2013-01-02 11:15:09 PM
Somewhere the people responsible for this idea are left looking flabbergasted mouthing to themselves: "Was that wrong? Should I have not done that?"
 
2013-01-02 11:19:45 PM

Happy Hours: Cyclometh: You know, sometimes people try to do something right but they're too close to whatever it is to understand that maybe it's not an appropriate gesture. I really doubt that anyone who works at Cinemark leadership was unaffected by the knowledge that all those people were murdered in one of their theaters.

Define "unaffected". Was there anyone in the entire country who didn't hear the news and think it was horrible?

How was "Cinemark leadership" more affected than some executive at a competing theater chain? Only in one way and that was because they had to deal with the publicity and one of their locations being a crime scene.

All of the "leadership" at the competing chains probably thought it was a terrible tragedy too, but I guarantee you they all were thinking "Thank God it wasn't one of ours."

So does that mean the "Cinemark leadership" felt any more of a connection to the victims or their families?

I doubt it.


Cinemark execs had to deal with this tragedy every day for months. They had to wait for hours to find out if any of their employees had been murdered. They viewed the auditorium before it was cleaned. It was an abattoir.

The entire theatre industry was horrified by the actions of this maniac. To say no one at all was effected is trite at best.
 
2013-01-02 11:23:00 PM

Mokmo: So, has the theater taken care of those pesky emergency doors that anyone can use without trigerring an alarm ? I thought it was well known that people could get in through them...


The theater did not have emergency doors.

They had regular doors that opened into the parking lot and ones that opened into the lobby.
 
2013-01-02 11:23:21 PM

Johnny Bananapeel: catmandu: The two public places local to me that had recent mass shootings

How long until until almost all of us have at least one local public place that has had a recent mass shooting?

[i.imgur.com image 347x221]


First, we have to agree on how to define 2 words. 'Recent' and 'mass'. Suggestions?
 
2013-01-02 11:25:08 PM

serpent_sky: Question: Did they JUST invite these people? Or did something go out to everyone in the area saying the theatre was re-opening?


The governor of Colorado announced he would be attending.
 
2013-01-02 11:27:39 PM

Indubitably: John Buck 41: On the bright side, I'm sure they meant well.

To judge


?
 
2013-01-02 11:29:15 PM

CruiserTwelve: Benjimin_Dover: Maybe they should have thought twice before they stuck up signs that banned guns then. They deserve to be sued as they contributed to the deaths. The reason he picked that theater in the first place was because it was a gun free zone unlike the 6 other theaters in his area that all were playing the same movie that were not gun free zones, Including one that was closer that held more people/targets.

Maybe we should ban gun free zones next based upon the number of people that have been killed by them in just this year alone.

That theater was no more a "gun free zone" than any other theaters in the area, and there was no theater closer to his home than the one he chose. (Except a small theater that shows movies with Spanish subtitles). That "gun free zone" story was a fabrication.


Fabrication
 
2013-01-02 11:29:52 PM

Dear Jerk: I thought it was a silly waste to tear down the McDonald's in San Ysidro, but as I got older, it made more sense.


Why?

I always thought the Israelis method of cleaning up and immediately rebuilding the site of a terrorist bombing was a great way of not allowing terrorist to win.

Americans seem to want to remember people's deaths and not thier lives for some reason.
 
2013-01-02 11:31:51 PM
When people are suing you, do not communicate with them except through lawyers, and then only about legal matters.
 
2013-01-02 11:42:35 PM

HempHead: Dear Jerk: I thought it was a silly waste to tear down the McDonald's in San Ysidro, but as I got older, it made more sense.

Why?

I always thought the Israelis method of cleaning up and immediately rebuilding the site of a terrorist bombing was a great way of not allowing terrorist to win.

Americans seem to want to remember people's deaths and not thier lives for some reason.


This.
 
2013-01-03 12:16:02 AM

HempHead: Cinemark execs had to deal with this tragedy every day for months. They had to wait for hours to find out if any of their employees had been murdered. They viewed the auditorium before it was cleaned. It was an abattoir.


Every day for months? I somehow doubt that. It's not like the CEO had to visit to help identify bodies.

The entire theatre industry was horrified by the actions of this maniac. To say no one at all was effected is trite at best.

Which is why I asked for a definition of "affected". Were you affected by it?
 
2013-01-03 12:44:29 AM
Good news is, there might be a PR position open at Cinimark, bad news is, it's in Plano Texas.
 
2013-01-03 01:00:36 AM

Benjimin_Dover: DownDaRiver: FTA: They also said the company refused to meet with them one-on-one without lawyers present.

Can you blame them, since they know that you want them to bleed green blood as punishment for owning a business where some wacko felt like killing people?

Maybe they should have thought twice before they stuck up signs that banned guns then. They deserve to be sued as they contributed to the deaths. The reason he picked that theater in the first place was because it was a gun free zone unlike the 6 other theaters in his area that all were playing the same movie that were not gun free zones, Including one that was closer that held more people/targets.

Maybe we should ban gun free zones next based upon the number of people that have been killed by them in just this year alone.


Oh, so you had a one on one with him as to why he picked that particular theater sometime before he offed himself?

Tell us more...
 
2013-01-03 02:41:38 AM

Molavian: CruiserTwelve: Benjimin_Dover: Maybe they should have thought twice before they stuck up signs that banned guns then. They deserve to be sued as they contributed to the deaths. The reason he picked that theater in the first place was because it was a gun free zone unlike the 6 other theaters in his area that all were playing the same movie that were not gun free zones, Including one that was closer that held more people/targets.

Maybe we should ban gun free zones next based upon the number of people that have been killed by them in just this year alone.

That theater was no more a "gun free zone" than any other theaters in the area, and there was no theater closer to his home than the one he chose. (Except a small theater that shows movies with Spanish subtitles). That "gun free zone" story was a fabrication.

Fabrication


You know what would really solidify the gun fans' argument? If we could find just one person who was in the theater that night, who had a concealed carry permit, and who can honestly say that they would have brought their gun to the movies that night if it hadn't been for the pesky "gun free zone" sign. If only, hmm? I have a feeling someone that committed to 2nd amendment rights would be speaking up by now.
 
2013-01-03 07:14:38 AM

Mikey1969: it's not like this was some huge "security hole" pointed out to Cinemark and ignored.


When I was a lad (not all that long ago) I seem to recall there were ushers who used to stand at doors to make sure that didn't happen.

That said, I still don't get the "disgust" bit. Unless of course getting about a dozen theater-goers murdered is part of some newfangled marketing strategy I can't hope to comprehend.
 
2013-01-03 07:38:19 AM
FTA: They said the company's timing was "awful" in sending the invitations two days after Christmas.

Would three days after have been acceptable?

What about 7 and 2/3rds of a day?

12.437 days?

I mean, if there's some acceptable elapse of time for this sort of an invitation, I'm sure the theater company would have liked to know it. Of course that would mean they'd probably have to ask the families in some way, and there's a very good chance that asking such a question would also be poorly timed.


Or we could, yanno, stop acting like oversensitive, neurotic primadonnas and acknowledge at least that they meant well.

No? Ah well...
 
2013-01-03 09:29:29 AM

SkunkWerks: Mikey1969: it's not like this was some huge "security hole" pointed out to Cinemark and ignored.

When I was a lad (not all that long ago) I seem to recall there were ushers who used to stand at doors to make sure that didn't happen.

That said, I still don't get the "disgust" bit. Unless of course getting about a dozen theater-goers murdered is part of some newfangled marketing strategy I can't hope to comprehend.


Don't think they can afford to have an usher at ever doorway in every theater for every show. And even if they did, what is an unarmed teenager going to do against an armed assailant on a suicide run?
 
2013-01-03 10:45:03 AM

Molavian: Fabrication


Despite what the author of that article said, that theater does not prevent anyone from entering with a gun. I have personally watched a movie there while wearing a gun. I wasn't searched and they don't have metal detectors. There is absolutely nothing to prevent anyone from entering with a gun.

Also, there are no theaters closer to his home that allow guns. That is also a lie. The only theater closer to his apartment at 17th and Paris is an old theater that now shows either Spanish language movies or Spanish sub-titles movies.

I'm about 10 minutes from that theater as I type this.
 
2013-01-03 10:55:18 AM

Shadowknight: Don't think they can afford to have an usher at ever doorway in every theater for every show.


Maybe. Clearly they used to be able to afford it. There's a whole discussion one could get into about how Hollywood keeps screwing over the theater industry, but it's kinda a tangent.

I'll leave this at: debatable.

Shadowknight: And even if they did, what is an unarmed teenager going to do against an armed assailant on a suicide run?


Not much. Close the door he propped open and re-entered later, for starters. Likely he'd have just come in the front at that point, but it's possible there'd have been less casualties. The design of a theater kinda predicates on every single person having an unobstructed line of sight to the screen, imagine what that means in reverse, and with a gun.
 
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