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(WESH Orlando)   Cops raid cockfight in progress. 12 arrested, sticky   (wesh.com) divider line 37
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2013-01-02 02:26:46 PM
You should have seen him, Little Jerry was bobbing and weaving... strutting his stuff

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2013-01-02 02:57:06 PM
I hope they found Mitch there.  Why didn't somebody follow him??

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2013-01-02 03:53:44 PM
What a bunch of dicks
 
2013-01-02 04:35:35 PM
At least we know enough here on TFD CJ threads to bring a towel.
 
2013-01-02 04:46:27 PM
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2013-01-02 05:09:40 PM
There's a mental image I didn't need this afternoon....
 
2013-01-02 05:09:56 PM
Rule number one dammit, rule number one.
 
2013-01-02 05:11:03 PM
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2013-01-02 05:11:54 PM
Penis.
 
2013-01-02 05:12:22 PM
Strip those people, bind there hands and feet, and put them in a small room with 30-40 fighting cocks (with spurs.) Let em see how it feels.
 
2013-01-02 05:14:32 PM

L.D. Ablo:


You farking gay...
 
2013-01-02 05:14:33 PM

Peter von Nostrand: You should have seen him, Little Jerry was bobbing and weaving... strutting his stuff

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I liked the pic I was going to post better.  Buy you're first, so you win.

/grumbles
 
2013-01-02 05:18:28 PM
Cops raid cockfight in progress. 12 arrested, sticky

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2013-01-02 05:21:04 PM
12 people sounds like a good minimum. Why is is that Micheal Vick wound up in jail, but not another dozen or so people? It's not like you can have a cock fighting ring all by yourself.
 
2013-01-02 05:31:23 PM
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2013-01-02 05:31:44 PM
Pretty sure we have a cockfight ring down the street from me. Old junk yard, large mexican family, sound of roosters and a metal ornament on the front lawn of two roosters fighting. Pretty farking cliche.
 
2013-01-02 05:32:04 PM
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2013-01-02 05:35:14 PM
"As long as the Almighty permitted intelligent men, created in his image and likeness, to fight in public and kill each other while the world looks on approvingly, it's not for me to deprive the chickens of the same privilege."
 
2013-01-02 05:37:55 PM
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2013-01-02 05:38:38 PM
So who had to eat the cookie? DNRTFA
 
2013-01-02 05:44:07 PM
Leo Jul 23 - Aug 22 You will be shocked and embarrassed when the arresting officers inform you that cockfighting is supposed to involve chickens.
 
2013-01-02 05:59:46 PM
Better than a circle jerk.
 
2013-01-02 06:05:47 PM
So here's a question, just because I have a weird mind that way. Assuming you had two roosters--normal roosters, just two ordinary chickens--and they were doing what roosters do, which is fight, and you and a couple friends were sitting there and made some informal bets on which chicken would win the fight. Is that bad, first of all, and did you and your friends just participate in an illegal cockfight?

After all, chickens do fight, sometimes pretty brutally and can even kill each other--are owners supposed to intervene any time two animals are fighting, especially if its natural behavior that has to be done to maintain order in the flock or herd? And if yes, then is it de facto "cockfighting" if you own two male chickens at any time, knowing they're going to fight? If no, then at what point exactly does the cruelty cross the line into illegal cockfighting? When the money goes down? When the spurs go on?

And if all blood sports should be illegal, then why stop at pit fighting? Why allow trophy hunting, or even game hunting unless you're so starving you need deer to eat? It's not like you can't go to the grocery store.
 
2013-01-02 06:08:09 PM
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Wanted for questioning.

/Obligatory
 
2013-01-02 06:35:34 PM

Gyrfalcon: So here's a question, just because I have a weird mind that way. Assuming you had two roosters--normal roosters, just two ordinary chickens--and they were doing what roosters do, which is fight, and you and a couple friends were sitting there and made some informal bets on which chicken would win the fight. Is that bad, first of all, and did you and your friends just participate in an illegal cockfight?

After all, chickens do fight, sometimes pretty brutally and can even kill each other--are owners supposed to intervene any time two animals are fighting, especially if its natural behavior that has to be done to maintain order in the flock or herd? And if yes, then is it de facto "cockfighting" if you own two male chickens at any time, knowing they're going to fight? If no, then at what point exactly does the cruelty cross the line into illegal cockfighting? When the money goes down? When the spurs go on?

And if all blood sports should be illegal, then why stop at pit fighting? Why allow trophy hunting, or even game hunting unless you're so starving you need deer to eat? It's not like you can't go to the grocery store.


You and yer friends are in the clear until somebody straps on some spurs on the chickens or the first bet is placed.
 
2013-01-02 06:57:14 PM
orclover:


You and yer friends are in the clear until somebody straps on some spurs on the chickens or the first bet is placed.


Yep. That simple. Gambling is illegal subject to legislated exception and this is not one of them.
 
2013-01-02 07:11:58 PM
kunta kinte is displeased, george
 
2013-01-02 07:36:16 PM
Early HOTY csndidate
 
2013-01-02 08:10:54 PM
Mexicans!? What the hell, I never would have expected that. So weird.
 
2013-01-02 08:36:53 PM

orclover: You and yer friends are in the clear until somebody straps on some spurs on the chickens or the first bet is placed.



No, I'm not sure what state you got your GED in law from but it's illegal in most of the USA even without wagers or spurs. We have issues here in southern and western Virginia with people coming in from North Carolina for the fights, because in NC it's a felony but in Virginia it's only a misdemeanor and that's only if there's betting. I think the spurs fall under a separate statute here.
/when the roosters tangle you best look away
//sure it's a euphemism
 
2013-01-02 08:40:15 PM

Wulfman: orclover: You and yer friends are in the clear until somebody straps on some spurs on the chickens or the first bet is placed.


No, I'm not sure what state you got your GED in law from but it's illegal in most of the USA even without wagers or spurs. We have issues here in southern and western Virginia with people coming in from North Carolina for the fights, because in NC it's a felony but in Virginia it's only a misdemeanor and that's only if there's betting. I think the spurs fall under a separate statute here.
/when the roosters tangle you best look away
//sure it's a euphemism



Correction: Apparently Virginia made it a felony in 2011 or 2012. There's a few states holding out. Laws by state Link.
 
2013-01-02 09:22:41 PM
Any profit making gambling institution is illegal under state law unless thew state makes an exception to it.There may be another penalty when it comes to cockfighting, but as soon as the house makes money and the government does not provide a waiver/license, it is a crime if the house makes money off of so much as a rock paper scissors match.

From Wikipedia:
The Animal Fighting Prohibition Enforcement Act, a federal law that made it a federal crime to transfer cockfighting implements across state or national borders and increasing the penalty for violations of federal animal fighting laws to three years in prison became law in 2007. It passed the House of Representatives 368-39 and the Senate by unanimous consent and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.[57]

So there are two issues, the gambling and the animal violence. Both have different standards, but ever since Michael Vick got busted, people have been thinking that the animal violence is the problem. It may be a problem, but unlicensed profit gambling has been illegal far long before animal violence has been.

Of all the time I spent learning Law from "GED Law School", I must have skipped the day when they taught the fine art of Cockfighting law so I guess that must mean I am a legal hack, right?
 
2013-01-02 09:35:24 PM

angryjd: Of all the time I spent learning Law from "GED Law School", I must have skipped the day when they taught the fine art of Cockfighting law so I guess that must mean I am a legal hack, right?



Only if you start spouting off about the legalities of cockfighting without doing research. The fact that your original comment didn't discuss actual cockfighting and only touched on the gambling aspect is probably why nobody called you a hack or questioned your bona fides.
 
2013-01-02 10:10:35 PM
That's crazy! The location where the fight took place is the same place my wife and I spend our vacations!

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2013-01-02 10:37:26 PM
FTA: According to the sheriff's office, there were numerous roosters in cages at the home. Several of the birds were dead.

At first, I imagined some nasty, hoarders-type house, with cages stacked everywhere, the smell of feathers and bird shiat everywhere, not to mention the noise. But then my 'cop speak' translator kicked on and I translated that sentence to be 'they had more than one rooster, in a cage, down in the basement, or perhaps in the backyard'.
 
2013-01-02 10:49:24 PM
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2013-01-03 04:24:08 AM

Wulfman: angryjd: Of all the time I spent learning Law from "GED Law School", I must have skipped the day when they taught the fine art of Cockfighting law so I guess that must mean I am a legal hack, right?


Only if you start spouting off about the legalities of cockfighting without doing research. The fact that your original comment didn't discuss actual cockfighting and only touched on the gambling aspect is probably why nobody called you a hack or questioned your bona fides.


Roosters are gonna fight, and they will go though any wall and pit bull to get to another rooster. But good luck in yer campaign against all the chicken farms.
 
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