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2013-01-02 05:08:40 PM  

Treygreen13: No other QB in the league would get that sort of nonsense.


Danny White?
 
2013-01-02 05:09:56 PM  

Slow To Return: You like to say, when the Cowboys lose, how it's a team game and it's not all Tony's fault. But then in the same breath, you turn around and give Tony all the credit when they win with statements like, "they'd be 3-13 without him."


That's because *with him* they're the team they are right now, and without him, they're an entirely different team.

In an alternate universe where Phillip Rivers is the QB of the Dallas Cowboys, do they go to the playoffs? Do they win 6 games? Do they win 3? You don't even like the guy, but can you honestly say that the Cowboys aren't a better team with him than any other "available" QB out there?
 
2013-01-02 05:13:15 PM  

Slow To Return: Treygreen13: No other QB in the league would get that sort of nonsense.

Danny White?


Don't even get me started on Danny White. Guy went to 2 NFC Championship games and had 6 playoff wins and people talk about him like he's Jamarcus Russel here in Dallas.
 
2013-01-02 05:13:29 PM  
What the Cowboys need to do is draft all Running backs and Wide receivers this year.
 
2013-01-02 05:14:59 PM  

Treygreen13: In an alternate universe where Phillip Rivers is the QB of the Dallas Cowboys, do they go to the playoffs? Do they win 6 games? Do they win 3? You don't even like the guy, but can you honestly say that the Cowboys aren't a better team with him than any other "available" QB out there?


I'm pretty sure that as someone who lives in the DFW area, I'm more anti-Jerry than anti-Tony.

Still, it's frustratring watching teams have so much success this year with rookie QB's and completely turning things around so quickly, all the while knowing that Jerry will be keeping this team stuck in .500 mediocrity for years to come.
 
2013-01-02 05:18:40 PM  

Treygreen13: Don't even get me started on Danny White. Guy went to 2 NFC Championship games and had 6 playoff wins and people talk about him like he's Jamarcus Russel here in Dallas.


At least Jamarcus has a National Championship ring.

Just kidding .... love Danny.
 
2013-01-02 05:19:23 PM  

Slow To Return: I'm pretty sure that as someone who lives in the DFW area, I'm more anti-Jerry than anti-Tony.


I think being Anti-Jerry is sort of a waste of breath. He's the owner and GM, I doubt it changes. Even if it does, I imagine he'd make his son the GM... he's already taking over some aspects of Jerry's job. Being mad at Jerry is like being mad at the sun. No matter how mad you feel, it'll always be there.
 
2013-01-02 05:22:32 PM  

Slow To Return: Treygreen13: Don't even get me started on Danny White. Guy went to 2 NFC Championship games and had 6 playoff wins and people talk about him like he's Jamarcus Russel here in Dallas.

At least Jamarcus has a National Championship ring.

Just kidding .... love Danny.


Ha, actually Danny has a Super Bowl Ring and went to three big dances. He just didn't attempt a pass in any of them.
 
2013-01-02 05:38:37 PM  

mikaloyd: Di Atribe: I know people are pissed at Romo right now. I'm not going to try to defend that last interception.

You can tell it is pretty bad when Di is the first one to throw Tony (Antonio) Romo under the bus in a Cowboys thread


It was devastating. However, these people posting Romo jokes all over the place are lucky they're not getting a mouthful from me. The Romo cologne? "You wear it but the other guy scores?" Stupid. "Romo went to kiss his wife after the game, but that was intercepted, too!" Hurr hurr hurr. They act like he threw 27 picks and was the only guy on the field. How about that defense that did jack squaaaaaaaaaaaaaat to stop the Redskins' run game? And that's all they f'ing did! Play after play after play. Run, Morris, run! And no one caught on? How about the O-line that had NO interest in protecting him? How about the WR's who weren't where they needed to be?

That last INT was painful. It sucked. But it wasn't the only reason we lost.
 
2013-01-02 05:39:07 PM  

Treygreen13: I think being Anti-Jerry is sort of a waste of breath. He's the owner and GM, I doubt it changes. Even if it does, I imagine he'd make his son the GM... he's already taking over some aspects of Jerry's job. Being mad at Jerry is like being mad at the sun. No matter how mad you feel, it'll always be there.


Well if I can't be anti-Tony, and I can't be anti-Jerry, and I don't want to be anti-Cowboy, what CAN I be?
 
2013-01-02 05:39:48 PM  

Pick13: What the Cowboys need to do is draft all Running backs and Wide receivers this year.


Jerry, get off of Fark. You are drunk.
 
2013-01-02 05:40:40 PM  

Slow To Return: Treygreen13: I think being Anti-Jerry is sort of a waste of breath. He's the owner and GM, I doubt it changes. Even if it does, I imagine he'd make his son the GM... he's already taking over some aspects of Jerry's job. Being mad at Jerry is like being mad at the sun. No matter how mad you feel, it'll always be there.

Well if I can't be anti-Tony, and I can't be anti-Jerry, and I don't want to be anti-Cowboy, what CAN I be?


You could pick a person that isn't a QB or coach. We could all go burn down Doug Free's shanty.
 
2013-01-02 05:41:29 PM  

Treygreen13: could pick a person that isn't a QB or coach. We could all go burn down Doug Free's shanty.


It was easier when we had TO, wasn't it?
 
2013-01-02 05:42:19 PM  

Slow To Return: Treygreen13: could pick a person that isn't a QB or coach. We could all go burn down Doug Free's shanty.

It was easier when we had TO, wasn't it?


Yeah. Or Pacman Jones.
 
2013-01-02 05:48:49 PM  

Slow To Return: Treygreen13: I was sitting there hoping the Cowboys would lose simply because I didn't want to watch them lose *another* playoff game with backups of backups.

The 2010 Green Bay Packers laugh at your constant use of the injury excuse.


As a Packers fan, I'm not too sure I agree with your assessment. Did the 2010 Pack have a ridiculous number of injuries? Absolutely. The difference is that the guys that were brought in performed exceedingly well for a very short period of time. The Cowboys players have stunk out loud.
 
2013-01-02 05:54:44 PM  
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2013-01-02 05:59:13 PM  
Tony Romo is pretty good.
 
2013-01-02 06:02:01 PM  

Super Chronic: Tony Romo is pretty good.


That's what RG3 thinks, at least.

"Don't listen to what anybody else is saying about you. You're a great QB, man," RG3 said to Romo on Inside the NFL.
 
2013-01-02 06:04:28 PM  

Treygreen13: Deneb81:
C - Spike it and take the offside. A 10s run off is STILL less time than was wasted not running a play. You still have a TO, 10s, and a long FG try.

I love your plan. 10s run off and take an "offensive offsides" for 5 yards of field position! Brilliant!

I'll send this over to Jerry right away.

Seriously, it was another week where the team gave up 30+ on defense and a kickoff return for a TD, and the kicker misses a FG as time expires, and it's Romo's fault that Dez Bryant is standing with his back to the play.

I mean, take a second, evaluate your position here. They lost 28-31 after Romo led an 80 yard comeback TD drive and would have been tied if Dez Bryant doesn't let a 2-point conversion bounce off his hands in the end-zone.

This is exactly the kind of shiat I'm talking about. It's insanity. No other QB in the league would get that sort of nonsense.


First, I'm questioning your memory. They lost 29-31. Second, I remember Dez being down field two plays earlier and arguing, not then.

Even still - giving you Dez being offside (a coaching mistake of one sort or another - discipline or play calling).

1) You're better off taking the run off and penalty and still being able to run 1 or two plays against a D who gave up 227 yards on the ground. You would still have a time out and 16 seconds with a 56 yard FG attempt even on a stuffed run or incomplete pass. Not great but neither is 51.
2) You're even better NOT WAITING 20s to take a time out after a 1 yard gain!!! If Dez is chasing butterflies figure it out in less than half the play clock. Take the TO, you have at least 20s and the ability to make 2 quick pass attempts before kicking the same 51y try.
3) Once it becomes clear that you've majorly cocked up and wasted too much time, don't call time out with enough time left (6s) that if you do make it you have to kick-off to the team that just set a return record on you. The FG wasn't even the last play because the boys left too much time on the clock.

Face it - no matter HOW you look at it someone royally jacked up that sequence and mishandled the teams last time out and 20s. Romo has the ability to make that NOT HAPPEN but didn't. He AND Garrett pissed away an almost win with poor clock management and an inability to properly line up a play that forced a long FG try that was missed.

Tony's hands aren't clean in this. As the QB do ANYTHING BUT piss away time AND the time out.
 
2013-01-02 06:09:06 PM  

Di Atribe: mikaloyd: Di Atribe: I know people are pissed at Romo right now. I'm not going to try to defend that last interception.

You can tell it is pretty bad when Di is the first one to throw Tony (Antonio) Romo under the bus in a Cowboys thread

It was devastating. However, these people posting Romo jokes all over the place are lucky they're not getting a mouthful from me. The Romo cologne? "You wear it but the other guy scores?" Stupid. "Romo went to kiss his wife after the game, but that was intercepted, too!" Hurr hurr hurr. They act like he threw 27 picks and was the only guy on the field. How about that defense that did jack squaaaaaaaaaaaaaat to stop the Redskins' run game? And that's all they f'ing did! Play after play after play. Run, Morris, run! And no one caught on? How about the O-line that had NO interest in protecting him? How about the WR's who weren't where they needed to be?

That last INT was painful. It sucked. But it wasn't the only reason we lost.


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2013-01-02 06:10:58 PM  

Deneb81: 1) You're better off taking the run off and penalty and still being able to run 1 or two plays against a D who gave up 227 yards on the ground. You would still have a time out and 16 seconds with a 56 yard FG attempt even on a stuffed run or incomplete pass. Not great but neither is 51.


The Cowboys are the 2nd worst running team in the NFL.

Deneb81: 2) You're even better NOT WAITING 20s to take a time out after a 1 yard gain!!! If Dez is chasing butterflies figure it out in less than half the play clock. Take the TO, you have at least 20s and the ability to make 2 quick pass attempts before kicking the same 51y try.


And if you take a sack? Remember, the Cowboys also have one of the worst offensive lines in football.

Deneb81: 3) Once it becomes clear that you've majorly cocked up and wasted too much time, don't call time out with enough time left (6s) that if you do make it you have to kick-off to the team that just set a return record on you. The FG wasn't even the last play because the boys left too much time on the clock.


You're right, but it was a fluid situation. Easy to say in retrospect. Tony is told "run this play" so he tries to. It's not his fault his receiver has his back to the play and his coach didn't call a timeout. All he can do is call out the play to his people on the line.

You can admit that Garrett farked up, but Tony is being told to "run the play" by his head coach. It's not his fault. If he takes a 5 yard penalty and the FG is short he gets CRUCIFIED for doing it. If he calls a timeout, his head coach is pissed off that he didn't try to run the play. And you have to admit, as a rational human being, that maybe (just maybe) the defense shouldn't have given up 31 goddamn points to Joe Flacco.
 
2013-01-02 06:12:14 PM  

Treygreen13: Super Chronic: Tony Romo is pretty good.

That's what RG3 thinks, at least.

"Don't listen to what anybody else is saying about you. You're a great QB, man," RG3 said to Romo on Inside the NFL.


Sigh. Stop it, RG3. Stop being perfect. It's really starting to piss me off.


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I WILL POPCORN YOUR FACE, ARIZONA
 
2013-01-02 06:15:20 PM  

Di Atribe: Nadie_AZ: static.ddmcdn.com

I WILL POPCORN YOUR FACE, ARIZONA


Too bad Reid ate it all.

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2013-01-02 06:24:30 PM  

Di Atribe: Treygreen13: Super Chronic: ***snip***

Sigh. Stop it, RG3. Stop being perfect. It's really starting to piss me off.


Nadie_AZ: static.ddmcdn.com

I WILL POPCORN YOUR FACE, ARIZONA


Aaron Rodgers won't piss you off with his perfection, just sayin'.

I tried that once. Just say no.
 
2013-01-02 06:25:11 PM  

Treygreen13: Deneb81: 1) You're better off taking the run off and penalty and still being able to run 1 or two plays against a D who gave up 227 yards on the ground. You would still have a time out and 16 seconds with a 56 yard FG attempt even on a stuffed run or incomplete pass. Not great but neither is 51.

The Cowboys are the 2nd worst running team in the NFL.

Deneb81: 2) You're even better NOT WAITING 20s to take a time out after a 1 yard gain!!! If Dez is chasing butterflies figure it out in less than half the play clock. Take the TO, you have at least 20s and the ability to make 2 quick pass attempts before kicking the same 51y try.

And if you take a sack? Remember, the Cowboys also have one of the worst offensive lines in football.

Deneb81: 3) Once it becomes clear that you've majorly cocked up and wasted too much time, don't call time out with enough time left (6s) that if you do make it you have to kick-off to the team that just set a return record on you. The FG wasn't even the last play because the boys left too much time on the clock.

You're right, but it was a fluid situation. Easy to say in retrospect. Tony is told "run this play" so he tries to. It's not his fault his receiver has his back to the play and his coach didn't call a timeout. All he can do is call out the play to his people on the line.

You can admit that Garrett farked up, but Tony is being told to "run the play" by his head coach. It's not his fault. If he takes a 5 yard penalty and the FG is short he gets CRUCIFIED for doing it. If he calls a timeout, his head coach is pissed off that he didn't try to run the play. And you have to admit, as a rational human being, that maybe (just maybe) the defense shouldn't have given up 31 goddamn points to Joe Flacco.


That 2nd worst running team had 227 yards already that day at almost 5.5 yards per attempt with no sign of stopping.

The terrible Offensive line let up one sack and blocked for 227 yards rushing. They were on that day.

The Cowboys had OVER 40 minutes time of possession. The defense gave up only 24 points (7 to a kick return). 7 of those were off a Romo pick.

Tony cocked up by wasting 20s, THEN calling time out, and even then doing it too early.

It was a clusterfark and the coach and QB BOTH deserve blame for it. Either had the power to stop it.
 
2013-01-02 06:29:20 PM  

roc6783: Aaron Rodgers won't piss you off with his perfection, just sayin'.


Make no mistake, I love him, too.
 
2013-01-02 06:32:10 PM  

Treygreen13: Slow To Return: You like to say, when the Cowboys lose, how it's a team game and it's not all Tony's fault. But then in the same breath, you turn around and give Tony all the credit when they win with statements like, "they'd be 3-13 without him."

That's because *with him* they're the team they are right now, and without him, they're an entirely different team.

In an alternate universe where Phillip Rivers is the QB of the Dallas Cowboys, do they go to the playoffs? Do they win 6 games? Do they win 3? You don't even like the guy, but can you honestly say that the Cowboys aren't a better team with him than any other "available" QB out there?


Eh...let me say, I agree with pretty much every other post you've had. The final interception of the game this Sunday was a good example of the D doing 2 things very well (rushing the passer virtually untouched, and faking the rush from the end to drop the OLB into coverage in the most likely spot for a safety valve toss), Romo making what he THOUGHT was the right/best play, but the defense through good scheming, good execution, and a lot of luck, happened to have the perfect play called. (This may be the worst sentence I've ever written, both grammaticially and because I am defending a Cowgirl...but whatever)

All that said, if you say that playing football is a 53 person (plus coaches) effort in defense of the Romo detractors, you can't also say that he is the reason they won 5 more games. I get your point, he may be the best option available, and he does get blamed for a lot of bad team decisions, but the team is the team. Maybe another QB makes the timeout call ignoring coach and gets the W, but will lose another game because he doesn't have Romo's arm? Sure without him they may have only won 3 games...but when was the last time a team won more than 3 games with NO QB on the field at all.

/Trick question, it was Tebow in Denver last year.
 
2013-01-02 06:38:51 PM  

Deneb81: Treygreen13: Deneb81:
C - Spike it and take the offside. A 10s run off is STILL less time than was wasted not running a play. You still have a TO, 10s, and a long FG try.

I love your plan. 10s run off and take an "offensive offsides" for 5 yards of field position! Brilliant!

I'll send this over to Jerry right away.

Seriously, it was another week where the team gave up 30+ on defense and a kickoff return for a TD, and the kicker misses a FG as time expires, and it's Romo's fault that Dez Bryant is standing with his back to the play.

I mean, take a second, evaluate your position here. They lost 28-31 after Romo led an 80 yard comeback TD drive and would have been tied if Dez Bryant doesn't let a 2-point conversion bounce off his hands in the end-zone.

This is exactly the kind of shiat I'm talking about. It's insanity. No other QB in the league would get that sort of nonsense.

First, I'm questioning your memory. They lost 29-31. Second, I remember Dez being down field two plays earlier and arguing, not then.

Even still - giving you Dez being offside (a coaching mistake of one sort or another - discipline or play calling).

1) You're better off taking the run off and penalty and still being able to run 1 or two plays against a D who gave up 227 yards on the ground. You would still have a time out and 16 seconds with a 56 yard FG attempt even on a stuffed run or incomplete pass. Not great but neither is 51.
2) You're even better NOT WAITING 20s to take a time out after a 1 yard gain!!! If Dez is chasing butterflies figure it out in less than half the play clock. Take the TO, you have at least 20s and the ability to make 2 quick pass attempts before kicking the same 51y try.
3) Once it becomes clear that you've majorly cocked up and wasted too much time, don't call time out with enough time left (6s) that if you do make it you have to kick-off to the team that just set a return record on you. The FG wasn't even the last play because the boys left too much time on t ...


Meh, not Tony's fault. Sure, he had the power to call a TO and save the time, but so did every other captain and coach, why not blame them? And of course even more, Dez deserves the blame since he was engaging in futility instead of having situational awareness and doing his job.

/And as a Skins fan, I love nothing more than watching Cowgirls' fans tear themselves apart with negativity and blame.
//Enjoy your continuing implosion
/I like beer
 
2013-01-02 06:40:18 PM  

Treygreen13: Deneb81: As a division winner the wildcard Seahawks would have played at Jerrydome.

Wouldn't really matter where they played. The difference in the teams is too great and the Cowboys are *worse* than they were in the previous meeting.


Truth.

I fully expect the Seahags to smack the Redskins onto the first tee.
 
2013-01-02 06:47:30 PM  
Here is the question: if Romo played for a top five team, and there were no more excuses about the coaches, the OLine, and so on, would he still make incredibly stupid throws? The answer seems to be, from looking at his history of poor decisions ( either that, or his WRs have been running the wrong routes regularly for six years now), a resounding yes.

Most QBs struggle with bad throws. It is their ability to get that decision-making under control that sets them apart. For about three years, Seahawks fans prayed every time Hasselbeck went to throw. But, for about five years after, he stopped, mostly, with the whirlybirds and learned to take sacks or throw them away.

Talk about Romo's stats all you want (I suppose his awful six year run of WRs has helped out, after all), but as long as he makes boneheaded throws in crucial situations, few will think he is anything but a slightly above average QB.
 
2013-01-02 06:49:48 PM  

TheOther: I fully expect the Seahags to smack the Redskins onto the first tee.


They came back down to earth this week against the Rams.
 
2013-01-02 07:06:00 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Here is the question: if Romo played for a top five team, and there were no more excuses about the coaches, the OLine, and so on, would he still make incredibly stupid throws? The answer seems to be, from looking at his history of poor decisions ( either that, or his WRs have been running the wrong routes regularly for six years now), a resounding yes.

Most QBs struggle with bad throws. It is their ability to get that decision-making under control that sets them apart. For about three years, Seahawks fans prayed every time Hasselbeck went to throw. But, for about five years after, he stopped, mostly, with the whirlybirds and learned to take sacks or throw them away.

Talk about Romo's stats all you want (I suppose his awful six year run of WRs has helped out, after all), but as long as he makes boneheaded throws in crucial situations, few will think he is anything but a slightly above average QB.


#1. Romo was on a top 5 team once before, they went 13-3.
2. Asking if Tony Romo would still throw INTs on another team is ridiculous. Everyone throws INTs. 31 teams this year will lose due to a bad play.
3. Plenty of people think he's a good QB. You're projecting your feelings onto everyone else.
 
2013-01-02 07:06:44 PM  
Honestly, I think Jerry is doing a decent job. 8-8 is a little worse than you expected, but not the end of the world. He can stay as GM for the next 30 years as far as I'm concerned.

You guys need to get over the loss, stop whining about Romo, and just sit back to enjoy the playoffs.
 
2013-01-02 07:17:32 PM  

kronicfeld: TheOther: I fully expect the Seahags to smack the Redskins onto the first tee.

They came back down to earth this week against the Rams.


I don't expect them to drop a Fiftyburger on Washington, but I think they are a good bet to make the Superbowl.
 
2013-01-02 07:20:05 PM  

Treygreen13: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Here is the question: if Romo played for a top five team, and there were no more excuses about the coaches, the OLine, and so on, would he still make incredibly stupid throws? The answer seems to be, from looking at his history of poor decisions ( either that, or his WRs have been running the wrong routes regularly for six years now), a resounding yes.

Most QBs struggle with bad throws. It is their ability to get that decision-making under control that sets them apart. For about three years, Seahawks fans prayed every time Hasselbeck went to throw. But, for about five years after, he stopped, mostly, with the whirlybirds and learned to take sacks or throw them away.

Talk about Romo's stats all you want (I suppose his awful six year run of WRs has helped out, after all), but as long as he makes boneheaded throws in crucial situations, few will think he is anything but a slightly above average QB.

#1. Romo was on a top 5 team once before, they went 13-3.
2. Asking if Tony Romo would still throw INTs on another team is ridiculous. Everyone throws INTs. 31 teams this year will lose due to a bad play.
3. Plenty of people think he's a good QB. You're projecting your feelings onto everyone else.



1) how did that 13-3 season end? Could it have been with a horribly thrown Romoception?
2) no, it isn't, as you have blamed everyone except Romo...the coaches, the Oline, the WRs, the RBs. Put Romo on a well-rounded team, then, and you tell me that he still won't make stupid plays at the worst times.
3) plenty of people place Romo right where he belongs...maybe the 15th best QB in the NFL, and declining rapidly
 
2013-01-02 07:25:20 PM  

eddievercetti: Di Atribe: 1) Draft an O-Line & quit trying to show off & make headlines with your draft choices.
2) Hire an offensive coordinator.
3) Fire the GM.

I know people are pissed at Romo right now. I'm not going to try to defend that last interception. They scored off of that & it was the dagger that ultimately cost us the game. But he is far down on the list of things that are wrong with this franchise.

Yeah, he's like NUMBER 4 on that list.


Whatever, I'm so tired of this discussion it beggars belief. Romo is one of the best players on the team and one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. It'll never matter. He'll retire ring free in a few years and the rants of the media blowhards will define his career. After dragging horrible teams up to mediocrity for years he'll be remembered as a choker and a failure. Won't be the first time or the last and he can swim in his Scrooge McDuck money tower to assuage his regret.

Die Jerry.
 
2013-01-02 07:34:43 PM  

whizbangthedirtfarmer: Treygreen13: whizbangthedirtfarmer: Here is the question: if Romo played for a top five team, and there were no more excuses about the coaches, the OLine, and so on, would he still make incredibly stupid throws? The answer seems to be, from looking at his history of poor decisions ( either that, or his WRs have been running the wrong routes regularly for six years now), a resounding yes.

Most QBs struggle with bad throws. It is their ability to get that decision-making under control that sets them apart. For about three years, Seahawks fans prayed every time Hasselbeck went to throw. But, for about five years after, he stopped, mostly, with the whirlybirds and learned to take sacks or throw them away.

Talk about Romo's stats all you want (I suppose his awful six year run of WRs has helped out, after all), but as long as he makes boneheaded throws in crucial situations, few will think he is anything but a slightly above average QB.

#1. Romo was on a top 5 team once before, they went 13-3.
2. Asking if Tony Romo would still throw INTs on another team is ridiculous. Everyone throws INTs. 31 teams this year will lose due to a bad play.
3. Plenty of people think he's a good QB. You're projecting your feelings onto everyone else.


3) plenty of people place Romo right where he belongs...maybe the 15th best QB in the NFL, and declining rapidly


*Yawn*
Ok, whatever <b>whizbang</b> you believe whatever you feel like. It's obvious you and I won't agree. Go out and enjoy your night and we'll reconvene when we can talk about something we have a chance to agree upon.
 
2013-01-02 07:36:21 PM  
*shakes tiny fist in rage*
DAAAMN YOOOOOUUU WYSIWYG!
 
2013-01-02 07:42:25 PM  

TheOther: I don't expect them to drop a Fiftyburger on Washington, but I think they are a good bet to make the Superbowl.


I picked Denver/Seattle two weeks ago. I don't think that's as good a bet as it was, but it's still a pretty good one.
 
2013-01-02 08:04:25 PM  
After wading through this entire thread, I would like to add:

1.) Romo isn't anywhere near as bad as many of you are saying.
2.) Romo isn't anywhere near as good as several of you are saying.

I'm an unabashed Dallas hater (never hid this fact from anyone) but, of all the problems Dallas has right now, ol' Romolicious ain't at the top of the list. Was that an assheaded INT he put up at the end of the Washington game? Hells yea it was. He's also been getting a regular ass-whuppin' by his lack of oline AND the press all year. Lots of QBs make the occasional bone-headed throw, he just seems to make more at critical times. Notice I said SEEMS.

He, Witten, Ware, and maybe Mild Autism are the bright spots of what remains of that team. They finished with hot dog vendors in shoulder pads on LB duty I think. There's plenty of suck in that team, that organization right now, that you've got a lot to complain about before you get down to Romo.

is he blameless? Obviously not. But he ain't even in the Top 10 of "shiat everyone else can agree on is farked about the Cowboys right now".

Lighten up, for farks sake.
 
2013-01-02 08:07:37 PM  

xaks: After wading through this entire thread, I would like to add:

1.) Romo isn't anywhere near as bad as many of you are saying.
2.) Romo isn't anywhere near as good as several of you are saying.

I'm an unabashed Dallas hater (never hid this fact from anyone) but, of all the problems Dallas has right now, ol' Romolicious ain't at the top of the list. Was that an assheaded INT he put up at the end of the Washington game? Hells yea it was. He's also been getting a regular ass-whuppin' by his lack of oline AND the press all year. Lots of QBs make the occasional bone-headed throw, he just seems to make more at critical times. Notice I said SEEMS.

He, Witten, Ware, and maybe Mild Autism are the bright spots of what remains of that team. They finished with hot dog vendors in shoulder pads on LB duty I think. There's plenty of suck in that team, that organization right now, that you've got a lot to complain about before you get down to Romo.

is he blameless? Obviously not. But he ain't even in the Top 10 of "shiat everyone else can agree on is farked about the Cowboys right now".

Lighten up, for farks sake.


My name is Treygreen13, and I approve this message.

/wearing the Romo jersey to the bar tonight
//maximum trolling
 
2013-01-02 08:11:12 PM  

notatrollorami: eddievercetti: Di Atribe: 1) Draft an O-Line & quit trying to show off & make headlines with your draft choices.
2) Hire an offensive coordinator.
3) Fire the GM.

I know people are pissed at Romo right now. I'm not going to try to defend that last interception. They scored off of that & it was the dagger that ultimately cost us the game. But he is far down on the list of things that are wrong with this franchise.

Yeah, he's like NUMBER 4 on that list.

Whatever, I'm so tired of this discussion it beggars belief that I will continue it. Romo is one of the best players on the team and one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. It'll never matter. He'll retire ring free in a few years and the rants of the media blowhards "Cowboys Fans" will define his career. After dragging horrible teams up to mediocrity for years he'll be remembered as a choker and a failure. Won't be the first time or the last and he can swim in his Scrooge McDuck money broken rib pain-pill tower to assuage his regret.

Die Jerry. It's german for, "The Jerry"


I've attempted multiple times this year to troll Cowboys' Fans with "Romo = Mediocre" with verying degrees of success...this thread makes me feel vindicated since "Cowboys Fans" are lining up HOPING for mediocrity as opposed to the alternative of a habitual choker.

/After the first interception Sunday I yelled "ROMOCEPTION"
//After the second interception Sunday I yelled "ROMOCEPTION"
///After the third interception Sunday I yelled "ROMOCEPTION"

////and it was good
 
2013-01-02 08:12:17 PM  

xaks: After wading through this entire thread, I would like to add:

1.) Romo isn't anywhere near as bad as many of you are saying.
2.) Romo isn't anywhere near as good as several of you are saying.


I agree but the main problem is, he goes his worst during win or go home games. Every QB isn't perfect or Delhomme but when your track record is as insane as Antonio's, you will expect for him to be in the crosshairs of scrutiny.
 
2013-01-02 08:16:07 PM  

eddievercetti: xaks: After wading through this entire thread, I would like to add:

1.) Romo isn't anywhere near as bad as many of you are saying.
2.) Romo isn't anywhere near as good as several of you are saying.

I agree but the main problem is, he goes his worst during win or go home games. Every QB isn't perfect or Delhomme but when your track record is as insane as Antonio's, you will expect for him to be in the crosshairs of scrutiny.


The problem with that is that he gets zero credit when he does do well, and all the blame when he doesn't.

Like, when they beat the Eagles in the 1st round a few years ago. They beat a division opponent three times, and the 2nd/3rd time it was back to back games. Tony played well in the game, but I have to remind people that the game actually happened because it is absolutely buried. And last week, he goes 413 and 4 TDs against the Saints and you never heard about it again. It's like his successes disappear into a vortex and the failures get first billing on the Tonight Show.
 
2013-01-02 08:21:36 PM  

Treygreen13: eddievercetti: xaks: After wading through this entire thread, I would like to add:

1.) Romo isn't anywhere near as bad as many of you are saying.
2.) Romo isn't anywhere near as good as several of you are saying.

I agree but the main problem is, he goes his worst during win or go home games. Every QB isn't perfect or Delhomme but when your track record is as insane as Antonio's, you will expect for him to be in the crosshairs of scrutiny.

The problem with that is that he gets zero credit when he does do well, and all the blame when he doesn't.

Like, when they beat the Eagles in the 1st round a few years ago. They beat a division opponent three times, and the 2nd/3rd time it was back to back games. Tony played well in the game, but I have to remind people that the game actually happened because it is absolutely buried. And last week, he goes 413 and 4 TDs against the Saints and you never heard about it again. It's like his successes disappear into a vortex and the failures get first billing on the Tonight Show.


I bolded the part that makes it less impressive.

/Although to be fair when RGIII did 3/4 of that against the Saints in week 1, it "transcended the game of football"
//Magic of RGIIISPN
 
2013-01-02 08:23:43 PM  

my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: /Although to be fair when RGIII did 3/4 of that against the Saints in week 1, it "transcended the game of football"


And this week, RG3 "led the Redskins to victory" by completing a Tebow-esque 9 passes.
 
2013-01-02 08:26:28 PM  

Treygreen13: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: /Although to be fair when RGIII did 3/4 of that against the Saints in week 1, it "transcended the game of football"

And this week, RG3 "led the Redskins to victory" by completing a Tebow-esque 9 passes.


Yeah, it was awesome.

/ =)
 
2013-01-02 08:27:30 PM  

Treygreen13: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: /Although to be fair when RGIII did 3/4 of that against the Saints in week 1, it "transcended the game of football"

And this week, RG3 "led the Redskins to victory" by completing a Tebow-esque 9 passes.


That's okay. According to Redskins fans, it was the gameplan for RGIII to hit 50% and only a 100 yards throwing. It is nice to see Wilson finally getting some recognition, which, considering he plays in Seattle, means he's basically one step away from Jesus.

/of course, Dallas sucks, too, in probably the worst non-Browns game I've seen in some time
 
2013-01-02 08:29:13 PM  

Treygreen13: my_cats_breath_smells_like_cat_food: /Although to be fair when RGIII did 3/4 of that against the Saints in week 1, it "transcended the game of football"

And this week, RG3 "led the Redskins to victory" by completing a Tebow-esque 9 passes.


Or maybe I should go with "Yeah, he definitely overachieved considering he was playing the Cowboys"

/Shamelessly riding the "made the playoffs wave"
 
2013-01-02 08:53:22 PM  
They're keeping Romo for now because no one else is available. If this were a QB rich draft class, I doubt they'd be so quick to make that call. As soon as somebody good opens up, Romo is toast.
 
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