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2013-01-02 05:00:08 PM

vodka: durbnpoisn: I don't think we here in the temperate zones have a lot to worry about. But those in the tropics, especially the really poor areas, could be in serious trouble.

Don't worry, those temperate zones will some be globally warmed, moist, and ready for the parasites to slide inside.


But...but...but...

AAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL GOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRE!
 
2013-01-02 05:03:47 PM

Abe Vigoda's Ghost: way south: This is news now?
It's been wiping out mankind for quite some time...

It was until DDT was used to kill off mosquitos in prone areas.

But of course, that has since changed.

Enjoy your epidemic.


It's a real shame that there are no other insecticides in the world that would ever be equally effective and more environmentally benign, and it's a good thing that insects can never develop a resistance to a toxin. I mean it's such a simple problem, that's why malaria was wiped out 70 years ago when we used DDT everywhere for just about everything.

I'm wondering if the act of thinking causes physical pain to some people, that would explain why tired thoughtless talking points have be trotted out again and again.
 
2013-01-02 05:09:35 PM

Impasse: Just go to a chiropractor and ask him to crack your bones. Works for diphtheria.


imageshack.us

"Well remembered."
 
2013-01-02 05:10:54 PM
Something has to thin out the human population eventually. If we don't hold contests in the form of wars every 30-60 years, then major disease tries to worm its way in.

/we're just pulsated streams of poop waiting to die like anything else on this planet.
//sorry, but we are.
 
2013-01-02 05:12:38 PM

Evil Twin Skippy: To wipe out the human race, it would have to be contagious. The only way to contract malaria is to be bitten by one of the vectors that carries it. Those vectors don't exist outside of the tropics.


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http://infectiousbitemalaria.blogspot.com/2009/07/malaria-in-russia. ht ml
 
2013-01-02 05:15:59 PM

rikkidoxx: And thanks to Rachel Carson, the New York Times and the EPA. Couldn't let all those song birdies die plus harming the fishies and other stuff. But then, what are 50 million human deaths since DDT was banned?


Pictured Below:
 heahea.org

DDT isn't banned for use in killing disease vectors, only for general use in pest control.
 
2013-01-02 05:17:00 PM
DDT

Happy singing birdies - rotting human corpses.

Win-win!
 
2013-01-02 05:19:11 PM

Rapmaster2000: rikkidoxx: And thanks to Rachel Carson, the New York Times and the EPA. Couldn't let all those song birdies die plus harming the fishies and other stuff. But then, what are 50 million human deaths since DDT was banned?

You people realize that DDT is still manufactured and used in a variety of countries?  Did World Net Daily leave out that factoid?

Wikipedia still works you know.

Criticisms of a DDT "ban" often specifically reference the 1972 US ban (with the erroneous implication that this constituted a worldwide ban and prohibited use of DDT in vector control). Reference is often made to <a data-cke-saved-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Carson" title="Rachel Carson">Rachel Carson's Silent Spring even though she never pushed for a ban on DDT. [121] Carson actually devoted a page of her book to considering the relationship between DDT and malaria, warning of the
It is more sensible in some cases to take a small amount of damage in preference to having none for a time but paying for it in the long run by losing the very means of fighting [is the advice given in Holland by Dr Briejer in his capacity as director of the Plant Protection Service]. Practical advice should be "Spray as little as you possibly can" rather than "Spray to the limit of your capacity."


Don't go trying to confuse us with facts and shiat.
 
2013-01-02 05:20:14 PM
i623.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-02 05:25:08 PM

BronyMedic: rikkidoxx: And thanks to Rachel Carson, the New York Times and the EPA. Couldn't let all those song birdies die plus harming the fishies and other stuff. But then, what are 50 million human deaths since DDT was banned?

Pictured Below:
 [heahea.org image 724x555]

DDT isn't banned for use in killing disease vectors, only for general use in pest control.


Seems like a semantic argument, since nearly all pests are some kind of disease vector.
 
2013-01-02 05:30:23 PM

Amos Quito: Happy singing birdies - rotting human corpses.


images.nationalgeographic.com

Amos Quito: Win-win!


Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

Big Man On Campus: Seems like a semantic argument, since nearly all pests are some kind of disease vector.


Not really, no. The way DDT used to be used in the United States was spray it on everything and everyone. Not only was it ineffective and dangerous to the environment and the people around it, it promoted DDT resistance in Mosquitoes.
"Disease Vector" insects are a highly specific classification. Just because a cockroach can carry salmonella doesn't make it one when talking about Integrated Pest Management.
 
2013-01-02 05:44:44 PM

Amos Quito: [derp]


Are you on some chemical company's payroll? Do you get all your talking points from Fox Izvestia? Or are you just a troll or an idiot or both?
 
2013-01-02 05:46:03 PM

BronyMedic: Amos Quito: Win-win!

Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.


images.clipartof.com

Haters gonna' hate!
 
2013-01-02 05:47:44 PM

Lee Jackson Beauregard: Amos Quito: [derp]

Are you on some chemical company's payroll? Do you get all your talking points from Fox Izvestia? Or are you just a troll or an idiot or both?



I am Amos Quito.

That is all.
 
2013-01-02 05:49:58 PM

fluffy2097: We really do need a good plague.

A plague that knocks off half a billion people or so would get science and research and medicine going again instead of warmongering.


Dream on. A bad plague was raging all through the Hundred Year's War.

Still, we do need a plague, if only to cull the herd. Half a billion wouldn't do it, though. We need something with about a 50-70% kill rate, like the Black Death in its heyday to really do us any good at all.
 
2013-01-02 05:51:09 PM

BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.


That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.
 
2013-01-02 05:51:31 PM

Gyrfalcon: fluffy2097: We really do need a good plague.

A plague that knocks off half a billion people or so would get science and research and medicine going again instead of warmongering.

Dream on. A bad plague was raging all through the Hundred Year's War.

Still, we do need a plague, if only to cull the herd. Half a billion wouldn't do it, though. We need something with about a 50-70% kill rate, like the Black Death in its heyday to really do us any good at all.



Working on it.
 
2013-01-02 05:54:28 PM
From the farking Stockholm Convention:

[Annex B] Part II
DDT (1,1,1-trichloro-2,2-bis(4-chlorophenyl)ethane)

1. The production and use of DDT shall be eliminated except for Parties that have notified the Secretariat of their intention to produce and/or use it. A DDT Register is hereby established and shall be available to the public. The Secretariat shall maintain the DDT Register.

2. Each Party that produces and/or uses DDT shall restrict such production and/or use for disease vector control in accordance with the World Health Organization recommendations and guidelines on the use of DDT and when locally safe, effective and affordable alternatives are not available to the Party in question.

3. In the event that a Party not listed in the DDT Register determines that it requires DDT for disease vector control, it shall notify the Secretariat as soon as possible in order to have its name added forthwith to the DDT Register. It shall at the same time notify the World Health Organization.

4. Every three years, each Party that uses DDT shall provide to the Secretariat and the World Health Organization information on the amount used, the conditions of such use and its relevance to that Party's disease management strategy, in a format to be decided by the Conference of the Parties in consultation with the World Health Organization.

5. With the goal of reducing and ultimately eliminating the use of DDT, the Conference of the Parties shall encourage:
(a) Each Party using DDT to develop and implement an action plan as part of the implementation plan specified in Article 7. That action plan shall include:
(i) Development of regulatory and other mechanisms to ensure that DDT use is restricted to disease vector control;
(ii) Implementation of suitable alternative products, methods and strategies, including resistance management strategies to ensure the continuing effectiveness of these alternatives;
(iii) Measures to strengthen health care and to reduce the incidence of the disease.
(b) The Parties, within their capabilities, to promote research and development of safe alternative chemical and non-chemical products, methods and strategies for Parties using DDT, relevant to the conditions of those countries and with the goal of decreasing the human and economic burden of disease. Factors to be promoted when considering alternatives or combinations of alternatives shall include the human health risks and environmental implications of such alternatives. Viable alternatives to DDT shall pose less risk to human health and the environment, be suitable for disease control based on conditions in the Parties in question and be supported with monitoring data.

6. Commencing at its first meeting, and at least every three years thereafter, the Conference of the Parties shall, in consultation with the World Health Organization, evaluate the continued need for DDT for disease vector control on the basis of available scientific, technical, environmental and economic information, including:
(a) The production and use of DDT and the conditions set out in paragraph 2;
(b) The availability, suitability and implementation of the alternatives to DDT; and
(c) Progress in strengthening the capacity of countries to transfer safely to reliance on such alternatives.

7. A Party may, at any time, withdraw its name from the DDT Registry upon written notification to the
Secretariat. The withdrawal shall take effect on the date specified in the notification.
 
2013-01-02 05:57:07 PM

This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.


The microevolution/evolution people are the weirdest.  What sort of cognitive dissonance does it require for people to not accept that they''re looking at short and long term views of the same phenomenon?
 
2013-01-02 06:04:37 PM

This text is now purple: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.


www.asianbite.com
 
2013-01-02 06:13:51 PM

you have pee hands: This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The microevolution/evolution people are the weirdest.  What sort of cognitive dissonance does it require for people to not accept that they''re looking at short and long term views of the same phenomenon?


I have no issue with natural selection being the mechanism by which evolution works. But what Brony was describing wasn't evolution, it was natural selection.
 
2013-01-02 06:14:30 PM

you have pee hands: This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The microevolution/evolution people are the weirdest.  What sort of cognitive dissonance does it require for people to not accept that they''re looking at short and long term views of the same phenomenon?


They're the ones who want hard evidence of EVERYTHING. Until they see proof with their own eyes it doesn't exist. Evolution doesn't occur until there's something tangible they can put their grimy little hands on. The fact that this takes hundreds of millions of years and that "speciation" is essentially artificial anyway doesn't bother them. Of course, they'll argue all day with you that wolves, dogs and coyotes are three different species although all three are basically the same animal and even C. latrans isn't genetically distinct enough from C. lupus not to hybridize in the wild all the time.
 
2013-01-02 06:24:30 PM
BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The resistance to DDT was always there. The niche that all mosquitos fill was always there. When the DDT susceptible mosquitos were killed, they left no offspring. The offspring of DDT resistant mosquitos faced less competition and were able to ensure that the mosquito niche remained filled.

This is not evolution. This is not even natural selection. DDT isn't natural. This is unintended selective breeding.

Same goes for anti-biotic resistant bacteria.
 
2013-01-02 06:30:38 PM

This text is now purple: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.


when did speciation become a prerequisite of evolution? I am under the impression that the only requirement is that the new trait can be genetically passed to offspring. please let me know if I'm off base here
 
2013-01-02 06:37:03 PM
Who cares?

Malaria is a plague Jesus sends to afflict the godless hordes of Asia and Africa. You'd think all that suffering and death would cause them to turn to my Lord and Savior, but I guess they're too wicked or dense to see the light.

Ever wonder why there's NEVER any malaria in America? Because the Founding Fathers established America as a Christian nation, that's why.

Of course, now that America is turning away from God and allowing gays and foreigners to freely wander about as though they belong here, I wouldn't be surprised if pestilences like malaria started to show up here, just like AIDS. Beware, liberals. You ignore Jesus at your own peril.
 
2013-01-02 06:40:18 PM

letrole: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The resistance to DDT was always there. The niche that all mosquitos fill was always there. When the DDT susceptible mosquitos were killed, they left no offspring. The offspring of DDT resistant mosquitos faced less competition and were able to ensure that the mosquito niche remained filled.

This is not evolution. This is not even natural selection. DDT isn't natural. This is unintended selective breeding.

Same goes for anti-biotic resistant bacteria.


You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.
 
2013-01-02 06:49:41 PM
fluffy2097:

Eugenics.
/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.


Not really. It's unintended.
 
2013-01-02 06:54:57 PM

letrole: fluffy2097:

Eugenics.
/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

Not really. It's unintended.


Fine. I'll bite.

"But Mister letrole! Evolution does not require intent! Your entire argument seems to presume that the creation of new species requires intentional design, by an intelligent designer!"
 
2013-01-02 06:57:23 PM
Finally. Maybe I can get a parking spot in NYC soon.
 
2013-01-02 06:58:28 PM

fluffy2097: letrole: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The resistance to DDT was always there. The niche that all mosquitos fill was always there. When the DDT susceptible mosquitos were killed, they left no offspring. The offspring of DDT resistant mosquitos faced less competition and were able to ensure that the mosquito niche remained filled.

This is not evolution. This is not even natural selection. DDT isn't natural. This is unintended selective breeding.

Same goes for anti-biotic resistant bacteria.

You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.


I didn't know mosquitoes were German...
 
2013-01-02 07:02:54 PM

Gyrfalcon: fluffy2097: letrole: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The resistance to DDT was always there. The niche that all mosquitos fill was always there. When the DDT susceptible mosquitos were killed, they left no offspring. The offspring of DDT resistant mosquitos faced less competition and were able to ensure that the mosquito niche remained filled.

This is not evolution. This is not even natural selection. DDT isn't natural. This is unintended selective breeding.

Same goes for anti-biotic resistant bacteria.

You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

I didn't know mosquitoes were German...


Well, they  are fans of David Hasselhof, from what I hear.
 
2013-01-02 07:03:38 PM

Gyrfalcon: fluffy2097: letrole: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The resistance to DDT was always there. The niche that all mosquitos fill was always there. When the DDT susceptible mosquitos were killed, they left no offspring. The offspring of DDT resistant mosquitos faced less competition and were able to ensure that the mosquito niche remained filled.

This is not evolution. This is not even natural selection. DDT isn't natural. This is unintended selective breeding.

Same goes for anti-biotic resistant bacteria.

You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

I didn't know mosquitoes were German...



www.bulwarkpestcontrol.com

I'm not, but they are.
 
2013-01-02 07:09:38 PM

fluffy2097: You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.


Why do you think the Jews are so smart?

Nazis. The Nazis bred a race of Super Jews.
 
2013-01-02 07:22:53 PM

Raptop: This text is now purple: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

when did speciation become a prerequisite of evolution? I am under the impression that the only requirement is that the new trait can be genetically passed to offspring. please let me know if I'm off base here


It's basically always been a pre-requisite of macroevolution. Microevolution can be from damn near anything -- it's such a fuzzy term that more or less any form of reproduction that results in a subsequent offspring different from its parent is microevolution. You could argue that genetic treatment is a form of Microevolution. it's an almost meaninglessly vague term.

What's typically referred to as "evolution", at least in a Darwinian context, is macroevolution -- where new species come from. Resistant malaria is still fundamentally its original malaria species.
 
2013-01-02 07:31:16 PM
Fortunately, Malrone (Atovaquone/proguanil) seems to remain a good choice for (wealthy) Westerners. There have been some reported instances of resistant strains, but pretty rare.
If Malarone-resistent malria takes hold, I'll stop visiting those parts of the world.
 
2013-01-02 07:51:56 PM
A good plague every now and then is as natural as a forest fire.
 
2013-01-02 08:17:30 PM
They're the ones who want hard evidence of EVERYTHING. Until they see proof with their own eyes it doesn't exist. Evolution doesn't occur until there's something tangible they can put their grimy little hands on.

Actually these people wouldn't believe you even if you dropped something in their lap which evolved as they watched. It isn't lack of proof, it is that they don't believe it exists and nothing you can say/do/show them can change that.
 
2013-01-02 08:24:26 PM

Parthenogenetic: But Mister letrole!


Bored?

And it's Monsieur Trole.

/ask him about the Commodore 64 he's posting with...
 
2013-01-02 08:44:42 PM
The whole thing does sound a bit scary, but it's not something to worry about in North America - yet. I can see how this would be a major problem in Asia though, and Africa has enough to worry about already without SuperMalaria.

I know it's not something we are used to worrying about in Canada, but we have had outbreaks of temperate zone malaria here in the past as well. I hope that the malaria version they are talking about is not happy in temperate climates!!

/Yes, my Mom had malaria as a child, and probably still carries some of the parasite, though she hasn't had an attack in over 50 years now. Born and raised in India can do that to a person.
 
2013-01-02 09:34:47 PM
The mosquito has killed more people than all war in human history combined.

And that was before this new viral mutation.

Be afraid. Be very afraid.
 
2013-01-02 09:35:15 PM

This text is now purple: fluffy2097: You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

Why do you think the Jews are so smart?

Nazis. The Nazis bred a race of Super Jews.


Why do you think Jews now control all the money and Hollywood, and the media in general?
 
2013-01-02 09:36:41 PM

ZAZ: There is a simple way to get people to complete the course of treatment. First half of doses contain a poison. Second half of doses contain the antitode. If they don't return for the second half, at least their corpses will not pass along the mutated super-plasmodium.


Newsletter. Subscription. Where?
 
2013-01-02 09:54:22 PM

fluffy2097: This text is now purple: fluffy2097: You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

Why do you think the Jews are so smart?

Nazis. The Nazis bred a race of Super Jews.

Why do you think Jews now control all the money and Hollywood, and the media in general?


Oh, great. It's because they're mosquitoes? This is getting worse by the minute!
 
2013-01-02 10:07:01 PM
FTA "It is here that Chiara Andolina keeps mosquitoes that are literally hand-reared -- fed from her arm, which she extends through a mesh hole into a container of the hungry creatures every three days. "Usually I feed around 600 of them in a cage like this," she said."

That just doesn't seem like a pleasant job perk to me.
 
2013-01-02 10:19:53 PM
Malaria! (Do doooo do-do-do!)

Malaria! (Do doo do-do!)

Malaria! (Do dooooo do-do-do, do-do-do, do-do-do-do do do doo-do-do!)
 
2013-01-02 10:41:09 PM

upndn: Isn't it tough to milk the Mosquitos? I mean, how many Mosquitos do you need to get enough anti-malaria antibodies?


I'm selling mosquito milking machines on ebay.
 
2013-01-02 10:43:34 PM
Oh good, I can start wearing my mosquito proof wire clothing again. Bought one year when our yard was infested and I had to mow at the same time there were clearing out shirt/pant sets all in adult small at the store.Hours of itchy fun!
 
2013-01-02 11:13:56 PM
Came here to swat some of the 'Silent Spring Kills People' crowd, but I see it's been taken care of.

Unfortunately, they're like mosquitoes...
 
2013-01-02 11:36:43 PM

PunGent: Came here to swat some of the 'Silent Spring Kills People' crowd, but I see it's been taken care of.

Unfortunately, they're like mosquitoes...


...and resistant to facts and logic.

A smart for you, and where the fark is the derp button?
 
2013-01-03 12:32:13 AM
some guy on "the great global warming swindle" predicted this...

Difficulty? Documentary is nearly five years old.


once long ago more than thirty thousand people in SIBERIA died from malaria, it doesn't take warming


we can beat it tho.. we'll just do what we did last time. DDT saved 160 million people.
 
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