vodka: durbnpoisn: I don't think we here in the temperate zones have a lot to worry about. But those in the tropics, especially the really poor areas, could be in serious trouble.

Don't worry, those temperate zones will some be globally warmed, moist, and ready for the parasites to slide inside.

But...but...but...

AAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL GOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRE!

Rapmaster2000: rikkidoxx: And thanks to Rachel Carson, the New York Times and the EPA. Couldn't let all those song birdies die plus harming the fishies and other stuff. But then, what are 50 million human deaths since DDT was banned?

You people realize that DDT is still manufactured and used in a variety of countries?  Did World Net Daily leave out that factoid?

Wikipedia still works you know.

Criticisms of a DDT "ban" often specifically reference the 1972 US ban (with the erroneous implication that this constituted a worldwide ban and prohibited use of DDT in vector control). Reference is often made to <a data-cke-saved-href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Carson" title="Rachel Carson">Rachel Carson's Silent Spring even though she never pushed for a ban on DDT. [121] Carson actually devoted a page of her book to considering the relationship between DDT and malaria, warning of the
It is more sensible in some cases to take a small amount of damage in preference to having none for a time but paying for it in the long run by losing the very means of fighting [is the advice given in Holland by Dr Briejer in his capacity as director of the Plant Protection Service]. Practical advice should be "Spray as little as you possibly can" rather than "Spray to the limit of your capacity."

Don't go trying to confuse us with facts and shiat.

Amos Quito: [derp]

Are you on some chemical company's payroll? Do you get all your talking points from Fox Izvestia? Or are you just a troll or an idiot or both?

fluffy2097: We really do need a good plague.

A plague that knocks off half a billion people or so would get science and research and medicine going again instead of warmongering.

Dream on. A bad plague was raging all through the Hundred Year's War.

Still, we do need a plague, if only to cull the herd. Half a billion wouldn't do it, though. We need something with about a 50-70% kill rate, like the Black Death in its heyday to really do us any good at all.

From the farking Stockholm Convention:

[Annex B] Part II
DDT (1,1,1-trichloro-2,2-bis(4-chlorophenyl)ethane)

1. The production and use of DDT shall be eliminated except for Parties that have notified the Secretariat of their intention to produce and/or use it. A DDT Register is hereby established and shall be available to the public. The Secretariat shall maintain the DDT Register.

2. Each Party that produces and/or uses DDT shall restrict such production and/or use for disease vector control in accordance with the World Health Organization recommendations and guidelines on the use of DDT and when locally safe, effective and affordable alternatives are not available to the Party in question.

3. In the event that a Party not listed in the DDT Register determines that it requires DDT for disease vector control, it shall notify the Secretariat as soon as possible in order to have its name added forthwith to the DDT Register. It shall at the same time notify the World Health Organization.

4. Every three years, each Party that uses DDT shall provide to the Secretariat and the World Health Organization information on the amount used, the conditions of such use and its relevance to that Party's disease management strategy, in a format to be decided by the Conference of the Parties in consultation with the World Health Organization.

5. With the goal of reducing and ultimately eliminating the use of DDT, the Conference of the Parties shall encourage:
(a) Each Party using DDT to develop and implement an action plan as part of the implementation plan specified in Article 7. That action plan shall include:
(i) Development of regulatory and other mechanisms to ensure that DDT use is restricted to disease vector control;
(ii) Implementation of suitable alternative products, methods and strategies, including resistance management strategies to ensure the continuing effectiveness of these alternatives;
(iii) Measures to strengthen health care and to reduce the incidence of the disease.
(b) The Parties, within their capabilities, to promote research and development of safe alternative chemical and non-chemical products, methods and strategies for Parties using DDT, relevant to the conditions of those countries and with the goal of decreasing the human and economic burden of disease. Factors to be promoted when considering alternatives or combinations of alternatives shall include the human health risks and environmental implications of such alternatives. Viable alternatives to DDT shall pose less risk to human health and the environment, be suitable for disease control based on conditions in the Parties in question and be supported with monitoring data.

6. Commencing at its first meeting, and at least every three years thereafter, the Conference of the Parties shall, in consultation with the World Health Organization, evaluate the continued need for DDT for disease vector control on the basis of available scientific, technical, environmental and economic information, including:
(a) The production and use of DDT and the conditions set out in paragraph 2;
(b) The availability, suitability and implementation of the alternatives to DDT; and
(c) Progress in strengthening the capacity of countries to transfer safely to reliance on such alternatives.

7. A Party may, at any time, withdraw its name from the DDT Registry upon written notification to the
Secretariat. The withdrawal shall take effect on the date specified in the notification.

you have pee hands: This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The microevolution/evolution people are the weirdest.  What sort of cognitive dissonance does it require for people to not accept that they''re looking at short and long term views of the same phenomenon?

They're the ones who want hard evidence of EVERYTHING. Until they see proof with their own eyes it doesn't exist. Evolution doesn't occur until there's something tangible they can put their grimy little hands on. The fact that this takes hundreds of millions of years and that "speciation" is essentially artificial anyway doesn't bother them. Of course, they'll argue all day with you that wolves, dogs and coyotes are three different species although all three are basically the same animal and even C. latrans isn't genetically distinct enough from C. lupus not to hybridize in the wild all the time.

Who cares?

Malaria is a plague Jesus sends to afflict the godless hordes of Asia and Africa. You'd think all that suffering and death would cause them to turn to my Lord and Savior, but I guess they're too wicked or dense to see the light.

Ever wonder why there's NEVER any malaria in America? Because the Founding Fathers established America as a Christian nation, that's why.

Of course, now that America is turning away from God and allowing gays and foreigners to freely wander about as though they belong here, I wouldn't be surprised if pestilences like malaria started to show up here, just like AIDS. Beware, liberals. You ignore Jesus at your own peril.

letrole: fluffy2097:

Eugenics.
/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

Not really. It's unintended.

Fine. I'll bite.

"But Mister letrole! Evolution does not require intent! Your entire argument seems to presume that the creation of new species requires intentional design, by an intelligent designer!"

fluffy2097: letrole: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The resistance to DDT was always there. The niche that all mosquitos fill was always there. When the DDT susceptible mosquitos were killed, they left no offspring. The offspring of DDT resistant mosquitos faced less competition and were able to ensure that the mosquito niche remained filled.

This is not evolution. This is not even natural selection. DDT isn't natural. This is unintended selective breeding.

Same goes for anti-biotic resistant bacteria.

You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

I didn't know mosquitoes were German...

Gyrfalcon: fluffy2097: letrole: BronyMedic: Evolution. How the fark does it work? Must be like magnets to you, Amos.

This text is now purple: That's natural selection. The species adapted, but it's still genetically compatible with non-selected versions of its species. It has not speciated, and thus, has not evolved.

The resistance to DDT was always there. The niche that all mosquitos fill was always there. When the DDT susceptible mosquitos were killed, they left no offspring. The offspring of DDT resistant mosquitos faced less competition and were able to ensure that the mosquito niche remained filled.

This is not evolution. This is not even natural selection. DDT isn't natural. This is unintended selective breeding.

Same goes for anti-biotic resistant bacteria.

You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

I didn't know mosquitoes were German...

Well, they  are fans of David Hasselhof, from what I hear.

Parthenogenetic: But Mister letrole!

Bored?

And it's Monsieur Trole.

/ask him about the Commodore 64 he's posting with...

fluffy2097: This text is now purple: fluffy2097: You'd get more bites if you called it what it really is.

Eugenics.

/we are using DDT to breed a master race of mosquitoes.

Why do you think the Jews are so smart?

Nazis. The Nazis bred a race of Super Jews.

Why do you think Jews now control all the money and Hollywood, and the media in general?

Oh, great. It's because they're mosquitoes? This is getting worse by the minute!

upndn: Isn't it tough to milk the Mosquitos? I mean, how many Mosquitos do you need to get enough anti-malaria antibodies?

I'm selling mosquito milking machines on ebay.

PunGent: Came here to swat some of the 'Silent Spring Kills People' crowd, but I see it's been taken care of.

Unfortunately, they're like mosquitoes...

...and resistant to facts and logic.

A smart for you, and where the fark is the derp button?