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(Kansas City)   More than a century after Carrie Nation started the Temperance Movement, Kansas may allow liquor to be sold in grocery stores. Your move, Pennsylvania   (kansascity.com) divider line 136
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2013-01-02 12:19:29 PM
You can purchase liquor almost everywhere here in Louisiana. We even have frozen daiquiri places with drive-thru windows.
 
2013-01-02 12:37:23 PM
A couple of our Giant Eagles tired selling wine but it didn't last long

They DO sell beer now though...
 
2013-01-02 12:39:22 PM
To be fair, there's nothing to do in Kansas but get drunk.
 
2013-01-02 12:39:28 PM
More than a century after Carrie Nation started the Temperance Movement, Kansas may allow liquor to be sold in grocery stores. Your move, Pennsylvania marijuana.
/ftfu
 
2013-01-02 12:40:49 PM
over new year's eve i was a little startled by the thought that this country once thought it was a good idea to prohibit alcohol.
 
2013-01-02 12:42:24 PM
 
2013-01-02 12:42:38 PM
I'm surprised they don't have a "Liquor Show" loophole
 
2013-01-02 12:44:34 PM
I'm still pissed that there are any idiotic laws like that still in place anywhere. It's quite frustrating trying to buy alcohol past 2am or on a Sunday morning in MI. Particularly when one works nights and 2am is like mid afternoon on my night off. Can we please stop trying to regulate non-harmful actions and morals with the fist of government?
 
2013-01-02 12:44:38 PM
I learned the hard way about Kansas' weak beer in convenience stores rules when I was traveling through that Godforsaken wasteland and had to stop overnight because the weather got shiatty. Picked up a six pack, got checked into a hotel in Parsons, and NOOO...it was just like Utah all over again.

/Fark Kansas
 
2013-01-02 12:45:25 PM

albert71292: You can purchase liquor almost everywhere here in Louisiana. We even have frozen daiquiri places with drive-thru windows.


I love how they leave 1" of paper wrapper on the top of the straw so its not an "open container".
 
2013-01-02 12:45:37 PM

buzzcut73: I learned the hard way about Kansas' weak beer in convenience stores rules when I was traveling through that Godforsaken wasteland and had to stop overnight because the weather got shiatty. Picked up a six pack, got checked into a hotel in Parsons, and NOOO...it was just like Utah all over again.

/Fark Kansas


Dude, just fly over us next time. We don't mind. Really.
 
2013-01-02 12:45:48 PM
Liquor laws just confuse the hell out me.  I grew up in an MD country where All Alcohol had to be purchased at a liquor store, but they were all privately owned.  One county up it was beer and wine in the supermarkets, but all hard booze came from county-run and owned ABC stores.  Supposedly red State VA is like that all over the state.  My favorite was Chicago where Beer and liquor are equally available at your local supermarkets which means two things: Shopping is a LOT more fun on "free sample" days, and you can sometimes get mega door-buster, loss-leader type promotions on booze right around the holidays
 
2013-01-02 12:46:02 PM

taurusowner: I'm still pissed that there are any idiotic laws like that still in place anywhere. It's quite frustrating trying to buy alcohol past 2am or on a Sunday morning in MI. Particularly when one works nights and 2am is like mid afternoon on my night off. Can we please stop trying to regulate non-harmful actions and morals with the fist of government?


Michigan has had Sunday morning sales for a while now.
 
2013-01-02 12:46:07 PM
already sold in supermarkets in PA subby
 
2013-01-02 12:46:24 PM
If the red states truly want smaller government, they can start to demonstrate that by removing intrusive morality laws such as this one.
 
2013-01-02 12:47:07 PM

meanmutton: taurusowner: I'm still pissed that there are any idiotic laws like that still in place anywhere. It's quite frustrating trying to buy alcohol past 2am or on a Sunday morning in MI. Particularly when one works nights and 2am is like mid afternoon on my night off. Can we please stop trying to regulate non-harmful actions and morals with the fist of government?

Michigan has had Sunday morning sales for a while now.


Then I need to find some better stores who got the memo.
 
2013-01-02 12:47:11 PM

taurusowner: I'm still pissed that there are any idiotic laws like that still in place anywhere. It's quite frustrating trying to buy alcohol past 2am or on a Sunday morning in MI. Particularly when one works nights and 2am is like mid afternoon on my night off. Can we please stop trying to regulate non-harmful actions and morals with the fist of government?


Taco Cabana serves margaritas at 7 AM in TX.

/the more you know
 
2013-01-02 12:48:10 PM
I can buy beer in a few higher end stores now in PA, Whole Foods, some Wegmans and some Giant stores. I ALWAYS buy beer at WF because it's just.. exciting to see it there, I can't resist.
 
2013-01-02 12:48:51 PM

buzzcut73: I learned the hard way about Kansas' weak beer in convenience stores rules when I was traveling through that Godforsaken wasteland and had to stop overnight because the weather got shiatty. Picked up a six pack, got checked into a hotel in Parsons, and NOOO...it was just like Utah all over again.

/Fark Kansas


Obviously you didn't know the secret handshake. Move along, drifter.
 
2013-01-02 12:49:01 PM

buzzcut73: I learned the hard way about Kansas' weak beer in convenience stores rules when I was traveling through that Godforsaken wasteland and had to stop overnight because the weather got shiatty. Picked up a six pack, got checked into a hotel in Parsons, and NOOO...it was just like Utah all over again.

/Fark Kansas


It's called "Baptist Beer".
 
2013-01-02 12:50:36 PM
You can get REALLY farked up on Taco Cabana Margaritas. About the only good thing they sell though, although, those greasy tacos are not all that bad, not I take that back, the margaritas are all they sell that is good, but they will FARK you up........why all the cops hang out at Taco Cabana....
 
2013-01-02 12:51:23 PM

busy chillin': buzzcut73: I learned the hard way about Kansas' weak beer in convenience stores rules when I was traveling through that Godforsaken wasteland and had to stop overnight because the weather got shiatty. Picked up a six pack, got checked into a hotel in Parsons, and NOOO...it was just like Utah all over again.

/Fark Kansas

Dude, just fly over us next time. We don't mind. Really.


Heh. I was just venting. I usually do fly over. IIRC, that lame story came from when I was bringing my daughter back to her mom's house when they still lived in KS. It had already been a long day starting with a 4 hour delay in Kona, having to rebook in LA and DFW to get to Kansas City, a 3 hour drive from there in crappy weather...I just wanted to get back to my dad's place in SW MO and didn't make it. Weak beer was the final nail in the coffin.

/On the bright side, I did get to drop off a few rolls of Kodachrome that I hadn't gotten around to mailing to Dwayne's yet.
 
2013-01-02 12:51:25 PM
I just learned that in Indiana if the property of an establishment wishing to sell alcohol abutts the property of a church, they have to get permission from the priest/pastor/head (though not Jesus, I assume) to be allowed to sell alcohol. But still never on Sundays or Christmas.
 
2013-01-02 12:51:31 PM

albert71292: You can purchase liquor almost everywhere here in Louisiana. We even have frozen daiquiri places with drive-thru windows.


For that, I'm grateful.  When I went to Florida to go to school, I was utterly shocked that you had to go to liquor stores for liquor.
 
2013-01-02 12:51:31 PM
God, I remember what a pain it was to just get a case of Yuengling in PA before they started selling in Ohio.

Speaking of Ohio....while you can buy liquor in the grocery store, you can't buy anything more then 80 proof I believe. Also, no free wine tastings at vineyards (have to give them at least a quarter) or anyplace else that isn't a restaurant. No beer sales past midnight and on Sundays before a certain time (if you have the proper license of course).

/still have three bottles of Everclear before it got neutered in West Virginia
 
2013-01-02 12:51:42 PM

amindtat: Beer selection at the Wilkes-Barre, PA location of Wegmans


The Wegmans in Branchburg NJ does the same thing, but I think they had to buy a liquor license. It would be nice if NJ did away with that crap, and allowed at least beer and wine to be sold anywhere that tobacco is sold...
 
2013-01-02 12:51:52 PM
More than a century after Carrie Nation started the Temperance Movement, KansasBrownbackistan may allow liquor to be sold in grocery stores. Your move, Pennsylvania

Farking shiathole. Drove from Cali to Topucka once, arriving on a Sunday. Stopped to fuel up the truck and buy a 6-pack, only to discover they can't sell beeralcohol on Sundays. WTF is wrong with that place?
 
2013-01-02 12:51:59 PM

Maud Dib: buzzcut73: I learned the hard way about Kansas' weak beer in convenience stores rules when I was traveling through that Godforsaken wasteland and had to stop overnight because the weather got shiatty. Picked up a six pack, got checked into a hotel in Parsons, and NOOO...it was just like Utah all over again.

/Fark Kansas

It's called "Baptist Beer".


It's called "shiat" and it fits in well with the state's general motif.

/Fark kansas
 
2013-01-02 12:52:10 PM

ChipNASA: More than a century after Carrie Nation started the Temperance Movement, Kansas may allow liquor to be sold in grocery stores. Your move, Pennsylvania marijuana.
/ftfu


Yes - the next generation will say "Can you believe once that tobacco was LEGAL and marijuana ILLEGAL?"

P.S. Here's something I've never seen mentioned concerning alcohol and pot: Pot will make you drink less alcohol. If I"m getting high and drinking, I seriously drink maybe 1 beer...mostly I want my "high" from the weed and "beer" for hydration which it doesn't work so I go to water. Realizing this is but anecdotal evidence - any one else experience this?
 
2013-01-02 12:52:57 PM

theurge14: If the red states truly want smaller government, they can start to demonstrate that by removing intrusive morality laws such as this one.


But these kind of laws are ok when they are shoving their version of morality and religion down ones throat.
 
2013-01-02 12:54:16 PM

Counter_Intelligent: albert71292: You can purchase liquor almost everywhere here in Louisiana. We even have frozen daiquiri places with drive-thru windows.

For that, I'm grateful.  When I went to Florida to go to school, I was utterly shocked that you had to go to liquor stores for liquor.


I think Florida is where you can't buy 40's as well, but you can buy single bottles of beer from a gas station. You can't in Ohio, which I reminded an asshole Floridian that we were in Ohio when he took a single bottle out of a 6 pack and tried to buy it.
 
2013-01-02 12:54:26 PM
Yes, it's not terribly convenient to always have to buy your liquore from a liquor store. But what really irks me about this law is that you can't buy ice, mixers or limes or anything at the liquor store.

Just want a couple of G&Ts while you're watching the game tonight? That's still two stops on your way home, unless you find one of the liquor stores that happen have a small "party store" located inside. But then you have to flag down an employee and they have to ring it up as two separate purchases....
 
2013-01-02 12:55:18 PM

Burr: asshole Floridian


I should say he was an asshole because he spent the next 5 minutes arguing with me about it.
 
2013-01-02 12:55:28 PM

theurge14: If the red states truly want smaller government, they can start to demonstrate that by removing intrusive morality laws such as this one.


Obviously you don't understand capitalism...you want freedom? Somebody got to get paid...

/just sayin': if politicians are talking, they lying.
 
2013-01-02 12:55:55 PM

buntz: A couple of our Giant Eagles tired selling wine but it didn't last long

They DO sell beer now though...


To be fair, it didn't work because it was a vending machine that you had to a) take a BAC test to use, B) show your ID to a video camera and C) you had a choice of Turning Leaf and similar trash.
 
2013-01-02 12:56:19 PM
shiat, I don't like the idea of Oklahoma being behind Kansas in anything. But maybe this will help OK pass similar laws. It drives me nuts that I can't just walk into a supermarket and grab a bottle of wine or something stronger than 3.2 beer.
 
2013-01-02 12:57:16 PM

pute kisses like a man: over new year's eve i was a little startled by the thought that this country once thought it was a good idea to prohibit alcohol.


It was a grim enabler of domestic violence back then. For a disenfranchised majority that had no rights, no freedoms, no income, and no financial or political independence, and with no abuse helplines, no marriage counseling, no Alcoholics Anonymous and no women's shelters of any kind, it's understandable why women felt the need to get rid of booze, once they were officially given the right to do so.
 
2013-01-02 12:59:34 PM
Just in time for Kansas to become the People's Christian Republic of Brownbackistan, too.
 
2013-01-02 01:00:26 PM

Magorn: Liquor laws just confuse the hell out me.  I grew up in an MD country where All Alcohol had to be purchased at a liquor store, but they were all privately owned.  One county up it was beer and wine in the supermarkets, but all hard booze came from county-run and owned ABC stores.  Supposedly red State VA is like that all over the state.  My favorite was Chicago where Beer and liquor are equally available at your local supermarkets...


I get spoiled by Missouri's surprisingly liberal alcohol laws. Outside of the 1:30 am cutoff rules, there aren't many restrictions in place around here. I've had relatives literally freak out at the large beer and liquor departments in our grocery and convenience stores. We're talking like taking pictures and posting it on Facebook.

/Feels sorry for people from Dallas
 
2013-01-02 01:02:13 PM

Anne.Uumellmahaye: I just learned that in Indiana if the property of an establishment wishing to sell alcohol abutts the property of a church, they have to get permission from the priest/pastor/head (though not Jesus, I assume) to be allowed to sell alcohol. But still never on Sundays or Christmas.


Sounds like an unconstitutional accomodation of religion. Alaska has an equally bad law where alcohol cannot be sold so many feet from a church. If the store owner wanted to lawyer up, he could shoot it down forever.
 
2013-01-02 01:02:32 PM

CheekyMonkey: amindtat: Beer selection at the Wilkes-Barre, PA location of Wegmans

The Wegmans in Branchburg NJ does the same thing, but I think they had to buy a liquor license. It would be nice if NJ did away with that crap, and allowed at least beer and wine to be sold anywhere that tobacco is sold...


Same at the Wegmans in Princeton, but Branchburg is a much physically bigger store. I also like that Wegmans chooses to *not* sell any tobacco products anymore.
 
2013-01-02 01:02:47 PM
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2013-01-02 01:03:19 PM
Or Oklahoma. Nothing more than near-Beer in Grocery stores, and Liquor stores are still shuttered on Sundays.
 
2013-01-02 01:05:02 PM
I never thought I'd say I'm happy to live in Nebraska. I can get my liquor and beer and wine at a convenience store, grocery store, liquor store. hell, nearly anywhere
 
2013-01-02 01:05:10 PM
I grew up in PA so I was used to weird laws -- then I moved to Ohio and figured out the 80 proof crap (and I was in a college town and you needed a car to get to the only liquor store nearby). That was more taunting than anything -- "Hey, we can sell beer, wine and flavored vodka and rum crap anywhere, but not everything else"

I did once buy a fifth of Jack in a Walmart in Indiana -- just not on Sunday or Election Day before the polls close.

Minnesota is like how Pennsylvania is becoming, grocery stores can sell anything (including liquor) but they have to be "separate". In the actual grocery store itself, it's only near beer.

North Carolina has this weird rule where it's legal to buy alcohol on Sundays. It's taking some getting used to. But that's balanced by needing to go to the ABC store to buy liquor, but they ONLY sell liquor and you need to go to the grocery store to get beer and wine.
 
2013-01-02 01:05:29 PM

WTF Indeed: To be fair, there's nothing to do in Kansas but get drunk.


Is sex that bad?.
 
2013-01-02 01:07:06 PM

Ishkur: It was a grim enabler of domestic violence back then. For a disenfranchised majority that had no rights, no freedoms, no income, and no financial or political independence, and with no abuse helplines, no marriage counseling, no Alcoholics Anonymous and no women's shelters of any kind, it's understandable why women felt the need to get rid of booze, once they were officially given the right to do so.


I was just thinking about that. Spousal abuse used to be the norm, but no doubt it was still way worse when hubby was drunk (just like today!). To think that the agreed-upon solution was not to draw tight and enforce the laws about assault on women, but instead just ban alcohol. Dayum.

rempy: already sold in supermarkets in PA subby


Is it available in every supermarket, every day, all day, in any quantity? Or are some (like the aforementioned Weggies and Whole Foods) just exercising 6-pack shop licenses? It isn't the same. I grew up in PA, went to school in PA, and now I live in South Carolina. I've seen just about every twist on strange liquor laws (short of Utah's low-ABV beer and bar/restaurant rules).

But an ACME that lets you buy one 12-pack and only one 12-pack isn't really the same thing as "supermarkets sell beer." Or wine, for that matter.
 
2013-01-02 01:07:17 PM

CygnusDarius: WTF Indeed: To be fair, there's nothing to do in Kansas but get drunk.

Is sex that bad?.


With Kansas girls?
 
2013-01-02 01:07:53 PM
Damn. The only thing I can buy at grocery stores is beer.
 
2013-01-02 01:08:16 PM
amindtat:
Beer selection at the Wilkes-Barre, PA location of Wegmans

rempy:
already sold in supermarkets in PA subby


technically - some supermarkets do sell beer (such as Wegman's) but they're separate shops (with separate entrances and registers) attached to the supermarket. there isn't a "beer isle" - you can't drop a 6 pack in your cart then go for your milk and bread like in most normal states. if you buy any alcohol, you have to leave the store, put it in your car, then come back in to shop.

a lot of convenience stores here in PA are the same way - they'll have two entrances. one will take you into the regular store, and the beer/6 pack store will be a separate entrance and walled off from the rest of the store. if you want gasoline and a 6 pack of Yuengling, you just have to go to two separate cash registers.

/still shocked that some liquors stores are now even open on Sundays here in PA
 
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