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(Washington Post)   Also in the fiscal-cliff bill: $9 billion in breaks for the emaciated paupers of Wall Street, more subsidies for those barely-scraping-by strivers at Goldman Sachs, and subsides for the pitiful beggars of NASCAR and Hollywood   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 62
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2013-01-02 12:14:24 PM  
Well, I for one, was worried about the Rum Cliff.
 
2013-01-02 12:27:50 PM  
voices.washingtonpost.com

Taken on the Q train, by any chance?
 
2013-01-02 12:47:15 PM  
covering everything from electric scooters to NASCAR racetracks

Proof that the Tea Party is still in charge.
 
2013-01-02 12:50:00 PM  
It's funny how all of these businesses, many run by Real Americans, always seem to need tax breaks from the government in order to compete.  Whatever happened to the free market?
 
2013-01-02 12:58:03 PM  
But remember, everyone, it's the teachers and the food stamp parasites that are bringing us down.
 
2013-01-02 01:20:47 PM  
Well as long as the subsidies for NASCAR include making Jimmie Johnson wreck or blow up real good and finish dead last in every race next season, I'm OK with this.
 
2013-01-02 01:43:50 PM  
so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?  oh, and meanwhile the NRA is running around trying to make sure everyone is as well armed as humanly possible...because, SECOND AMENDMENT!

sometimes I look at the news and wonder if i'm drunk and is what i'm reading actually happening or if it's all some sort of insane nightmare and I just haven't woken up yet.
 
2013-01-02 01:45:44 PM  

Weaver95: so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?


It's the fiscally responsible thing to do.
 
2013-01-02 01:49:25 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Weaver95: so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?

It's the fiscally responsible thing to do.


all of this has happened before.
 
2013-01-02 01:49:51 PM  

Weaver95: so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?  oh, and meanwhile the NRA is running around trying to make sure everyone is as well armed as humanly possible...because, SECOND AMENDMENT!

sometimes I look at the news and wonder if i'm drunk and is what i'm reading actually happening or if it's all some sort of insane nightmare and I just haven't woken up yet.


This is the second time now that the House GOP has screwed Americans on disaster relief (Joplin was the first).  I guess the mantra of the Cantor Republicans is "Meh, you're on your own."
 
2013-01-02 01:59:31 PM  
Is it too much to ask for a spending bill to be solely what it's supposedly for?
 
2013-01-02 02:05:14 PM  
Mentat:
This is the second time now that the House GOP has screwed Americans on disaster relief (Joplin was the first).  I guess the mantra of the Cantor Republicans is "Meh, you're on your own."

I just can't believe the GOP did this.  its like the House leadership has no concept of negative consequences.
 
2013-01-02 02:25:59 PM  
They just can't step away from the trough.
 
2013-01-02 02:28:14 PM  
God damned welfare queens are RUINING traditional America.
 
2013-01-02 03:13:00 PM  

Mentat: Weaver95: so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?  oh, and meanwhile the NRA is running around trying to make sure everyone is as well armed as humanly possible...because, SECOND AMENDMENT!

sometimes I look at the news and wonder if i'm drunk and is what i'm reading actually happening or if it's all some sort of insane nightmare and I just haven't woken up yet.

This is the second time now that the House GOP has screwed Americans on disaster relief (Joplin was the first).  I guess the mantra of the Cantor Republicans is "Meh, you're on your own."


I can't wait until VA faces a natural disaster and Cantor becomes the first one begging for money.
 
2013-01-02 03:13:37 PM  

Jackson Herring: God damned minority welfare queens are RUINING traditional America.


FTFY

They're not biatching about the white people on welfare.
 
2013-01-02 03:13:50 PM  
It's be socialism to help out victims of hurricanes.
 
2013-01-02 03:17:39 PM  
Remember folks, the enemy here is the 50.1% of your neighbors who voted your Congressman in.
 
2013-01-02 03:18:53 PM  
Mrtraveler01:
I can't wait until VA faces a natural disaster and Cantor becomes the first one begging for money.

well...it's not a good thing to wish a disaster on anyone.  that said, I suspect Cantor would have no problem demanding the Feds step up and pay for disaster recovery operations.  he wouldn't see it as a contradiction at all.
 
2013-01-02 03:19:53 PM  

Weaver95: Lionel Mandrake: Weaver95: so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?

It's the fiscally responsible thing to do.

all of this has happened before.


...and all of this will happen again.
 
2013-01-02 03:20:33 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Remember folks, the enemy here is the 50.1% of your neighbors who voted your Congressman in.


No, no, no...my guy is OK, it's all those other f*ckers causing trouble.
 
2013-01-02 03:21:01 PM  
Was the rider for funding of the perverted arts included?
 
2013-01-02 03:23:02 PM  

hiker9999: Weaver95: Lionel Mandrake: Weaver95: so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?

It's the fiscally responsible thing to do.

all of this has happened before.

...and all of this will happen again.


there must be some way outta here, said the joker to the thief.
 
2013-01-02 03:23:14 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Remember folks, the enemy here is the 50.1% of your neighbors who voted your Congressman in.


House Dems won 50.6% of the two party vote, hold only 46% of the seats.
 
2013-01-02 03:25:52 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: Outrageous Muff: Remember folks, the enemy here is the 50.1% of your neighbors who voted your Congressman in.

No, no, no...my guy is OK, it's all those other f*ckers causing trouble.


Yup. It's like slow play in golf. Everyone else is the problem, my 2 fivesomes of 30 handicaps isn't an issue at all
 
2013-01-02 03:26:25 PM  
Wonder how many Sandy victims are at the end of their rope and have a gun cache?
 
2013-01-02 03:28:55 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: Wonder how many Sandy victims are at the end of their rope and have a gun cache?


I don't think you'll be hearing from them. Most of the victims are underground at this point.

// SO sorry
 
2013-01-02 03:30:15 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Is it too much to ask for a spending bill to be solely what it's supposedly for?


I didn't realize the 'fiscal-cliff bill' was a spending bill.
 
2013-01-02 03:30:57 PM  

Phil Moskowitz: Wonder how many Sandy victims are at the end of their rope and have a gun cache?


disgusting
 
2013-01-02 03:32:57 PM  
voices.washingtonpost.com

A train load of people who pretend that they jog or cycle to work
 
2013-01-02 03:34:14 PM  

dumbobruni: Phil Moskowitz: Wonder how many Sandy victims are at the end of their rope and have a gun cache?

disgusting


its a valid question though.  historically speaking, when rich people have all the money and poor people have no place to live, no food to eat...its probably not a good idea to let them have a lot of guns.  sooner or later someone is gonna put guns and poverty together and reinvent the wheel.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-01-02 03:34:26 PM  

Outrageous Muff: Remember folks, the enemy here is the 50.1% of your neighbors who voted your Congressman in.


I'm sorry... if you vote for Michelle Bachmann, you're an idiot. If you vote for Eric Cantor, who hasn't bothered to represent his constituents, you're an idiot. If you vote for McConnell, who has managed to make $4 million per year since he got into the Senate, you're an idiot. You are DAMN RIGHT that some of these people are the enemy right now. They're not smart enough to even know that their representatives are pounding them in the ass.
 
2013-01-02 03:37:43 PM  

Weaver95: so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?  oh, and meanwhile the NRA is running around trying to make sure everyone is as well armed as humanly possible...because, SECOND AMENDMENT!

sometimes I look at the news and wonder if i'm drunk and is what i'm reading actually happening or if it's all some sort of insane nightmare and I just haven't woken up yet.


At times like these, I close my eyes, take a deep breath, and say "This is Biff Tannen's Hill Valley" until I feel better.
 
2013-01-02 03:38:17 PM  

brantgoose: [voices.washingtonpost.com image 454x303]

A train load of people who pretend that they jog or cycle to work


its the no pants day - annual ride thing.
 
2013-01-02 03:43:30 PM  
Does this mean we will no longer see those sad sponsorless cars going around the track?
 
2013-01-02 03:43:49 PM  
Obama, you are a pu$$y.
 
2013-01-02 03:44:37 PM  

theknuckler_33: I didn't realize the 'fiscal-cliff bill' was a spending bill.


Apparently no one else did either. And yet...

But the reason why I asked that is because of all of the hand wringing over the Alaska Fisheries Relief Act that has $336 million in Amtrak expenses tacked to it.
 
2013-01-02 03:48:39 PM  
Right now, we de facto teach people that if you have enough money, you can get away with anything. With such continual conditioning and reenforcing - by our failure to *punish* their crimes in a strong, timely manner - is it any wonder that so many people participate in this shameful behavior?

Ideally, I'd suggest negotiation to things like this that simply reward bad behavior. Unfortunately, we've tried that for decades with no meaningful results. We've even tried various political and legal techniques, and it hasn't even slowed these payoffs.

At this point, it is going to take a significant corrective force to reverse the money-hoarder's behavior. While I'd love to see ideas like "revoking the corporate liability shield" discussed, the possibility of that being enacted by many of the very people it is intended to regulate is slim to none.

Unfortunately, that only leaves us with one regrettable option:
images.fineartamerica.com

After a couple heads start rolling, I suspect the rest will achieve the proper "fear of god" and self-correct much of their sociopathic behavior. Until they receive a message that clear and unmistakable nothing will change.
 
2013-01-02 03:49:22 PM  

theknuckler_33: Dancin_In_Anson: Is it too much to ask for a spending bill to be solely what it's supposedly for?

I didn't realize the 'fiscal-cliff bill' was a spending bill.


Technically every tax break is a form of "spending" on somebody's behalf, at the expense of somebody else, unless you cut spending to compensate for the loss of income. Non-taxation is simply non-spending, though, and not really a break. Of course, many of the items listed are NOT tax breaks. They are pure spending items in the form of subsidies. They fatten the bottom lines of some at the expense of taxpayers, consumers, and other producers, most likely more efficient and cheaper producers.

The rum monies, for example, are a stupidity tax on the American consumer, who pays the less efficient and possibly more profitable rum manufacturers of Puerto Rico these monies instead of buying cheaper US domestic or foreign rums.

Everybody knows that Cuba produces some of the best rums. Puerto Rico may also produce fine rums, but they wouldn't need these monies if they could produce both better and more profitable rums to start with. And if they do produce better and cheaper rums, the marketplace should be left the Fark alone. They simply don't need the monies. They'll take them because some slimey politician offers them for partisan advantage, but they may well acknowledge that they don't need the money, didn't earn the money and they'll raise Hell if even one payment is late (as Abe Simpson put it).

All forms of subsidy, including the omnipresent BUY AMERICAN means that you are paying more than you should for whatever it is you are buying domestically when better or cheaper alternatives are available. For BUY AMERICAN just substitute the name of any US company. For example, BUY FORD or BUY VIRGINIA SLIMS. Economists recognize that the smart thing to do is buy whatever other countries produce better or cheaper and sell them whatever the USA produces better or cheaper. This buying American BS is sentimental BS at best, stupid consumer decisions or con-jobs by American businessmen otherwise.

The fingerprints of Republicans and Democrats are all over these items, and behind them, the hands of the political puppeteers. You'd be better off with out almost all subsidiies except for those that actually promote new production, better products (including safer, cleaner products), or lower prices. But most subsidies don't do any such thing. They promote more profits as sure as the butcher's big fat thumb on the scale, but the profits do not trickle down to you in sufficient quantities to compensate you for the opportunity to make a rational, economic choice rather than a foolish or misguided choice.

If a Democrat or a Republican tries to tell you that these "exceptions" to the spending cuts and increased taxes of the Fiscal Cliff are good for you and for America, bite them. There may be chocolate under that gold foil.
 
2013-01-02 03:53:12 PM  

Mentat: Weaver95: so Hurricane Sandy victims get nothing, but the rich folks with large expense accounts, THEY get whatever they want?  oh, and meanwhile the NRA is running around trying to make sure everyone is as well armed as humanly possible...because, SECOND AMENDMENT!

sometimes I look at the news and wonder if i'm drunk and is what i'm reading actually happening or if it's all some sort of insane nightmare and I just haven't woken up yet.

This is the second time now that the House GOP has screwed Americans on disaster relief (Joplin was the first).  I guess the mantra of the Cantor Republicans is "Meh, you're on your own."


Third time if you count their disgraceful treatment of 9/11 first responders.
 
2013-01-02 03:53:54 PM  
So, 98% of what Boehner wanted again?
 
2013-01-02 03:54:42 PM  

Weaver95: dumbobruni: Phil Moskowitz: Wonder how many Sandy victims are at the end of their rope and have a gun cache?

disgusting

its a valid question though.  historically speaking, when rich people have all the money and poor people have no place to live, no food to eat...its probably not a good idea to let them have a lot of guns.  sooner or later someone is gonna put guns and poverty together and reinvent the wheel.


Guns or no guns, there are obviously a LOT of people who have forgotten the #1 reason to keep a certain minimum level of social services, and generally keep the poor end of society well-fed and generally content: it's cheaper than social unrest and revolution.

I believe Bender said it best: "Care to contribute to the 'Not-Mugging You' fund?"
 
2013-01-02 03:56:35 PM  

brantgoose: The rum monies, for example, are a stupidity tax on the American consumer, who pays the less efficient and possibly more profitable rum manufacturers of Puerto Rico these monies instead of buying cheaper US domestic or foreign rums.

Everybody knows that Cuba produces some of the best rums. Puerto Rico may also produce fine rums, but they wouldn't need these monies if they could produce both better and more profitable rums to start with. And if they do produce better and cheaper rums, the marketplace should be left the Fark alone. They simply don't need the monies.


Spoken like someone who has no idea WTF they're talking about and is basing their conclusions on a 10 word snippet from an article. You realize the money goes back to the GOVERNMENTS of PR and VI for use -- not to the manufacturers, right? It's a reallocation of taxes collected on behalf of those gov'ts - because those govt's are forbidden from doing it themselves.

So I'm sorry, you were saying?
 
2013-01-02 04:10:46 PM  

vaderstg: brantgoose: The rum monies, for example, are a stupidity tax on the American consumer, who pays the less efficient and possibly more profitable rum manufacturers of Puerto Rico these monies instead of buying cheaper US domestic or foreign rums.

Everybody knows that Cuba produces some of the best rums. Puerto Rico may also produce fine rums, but they wouldn't need these monies if they could produce both better and more profitable rums to start with. And if they do produce better and cheaper rums, the marketplace should be left the Fark alone. They simply don't need the monies.

Spoken like someone who has no idea WTF they're talking about and is basing their conclusions on a 10 word snippet from an article. You realize the money goes back to the GOVERNMENTS of PR and VI for use -- not to the manufacturers, right? It's a reallocation of taxes collected on behalf of those gov'ts - because those govt's are forbidden from doing it themselves.

So I'm sorry, you were saying?


And yet, the non-voting Rep in Congress from the PR thinks these excise taxes go right into the pockets of rum distillers...
 
2013-01-02 04:35:40 PM  
This is known as pork. Bacon-wrapped pork. Bacon-stuffed bacon-wrapped pork. Bacon-stuffed bacon-wrapped pork in a delightful bacon sauce. This bacon-stuffed bacon-wrapped pork in a delightful bacon sauce pork was used to buy the votes of various holdouts, to assure passage of the bill. In a broader sense, this is commonly termed "politics." To be more specific, it's also known as blackmail.

Congress is really looking to get that approval rating down into single digits. I imagine if they get below 5%, things will be a lot more interesting in D.C.
 
2013-01-02 04:38:36 PM  

hammettman: This is known as pork. Bacon-wrapped pork. Bacon-stuffed bacon-wrapped pork. Bacon-stuffed bacon-wrapped pork in a delightful bacon sauce. This bacon-stuffed bacon-wrapped pork in a delightful bacon sauce pork was used to buy the votes of various holdouts, to assure passage of the bill. In a broader sense, this is commonly termed "politics." To be more specific, it's also known as blackmail.

Congress is really looking to get that approval rating down into single digits. I imagine if they get below 5%, things will be a lot more interesting in D.C.


lets just make sure everyone is well armed.  Because that's what's really important right now - well armed people mad as hell that their elected representatives are more concerned with helping out the 1% and NOT helping out people who lost jobs and their homes from hurricane sandy.  nothing can ever possibly go wrong with that situation.
 
2013-01-02 05:11:57 PM  
Outrageous Muff: Remember folks, the enemy here is the 50.1% of your neighbors who voted your Congressman in.

Nope. Ever hear of gerrymandering?
 
2013-01-02 05:16:50 PM  
The American view of Congress, both their own representative and the body as a whole can be summarized, as so many things can, with some classic 1950's rock and roll lyrics, viz.,

My gal is red hot, your girl ain't doodly squat, YEAH!
My gall is red hot, your girl ain't doodly squat,
Well she ain't got money but man, she's really got a lot.

Well she's the kinda woman who's a lounge-around
Spendin' my business all over town, but
My gal is red hot, your gal ain't doodley squat! YEAH!
My gal is red hot, your gal ain't doodley squat.
Well she ain't got money, but man she's really got a lot.

*jamming furiously on E7*
 
2013-01-02 05:57:25 PM  

Weaver95: Mentat:
This is the second time now that the House GOP has screwed Americans on disaster relief (Joplin was the first).  I guess the mantra of the Cantor Republicans is "Meh, you're on your own."

I just can't believe the GOP did this.  its like the House leadership has no concept of negative consequences.

timenewsfeed.files.wordpress.com

Gerry's Mandering sauce is the soothing tonic for fixing negative consequences caused by partisan based bad decisions. Gerry's clears the bowels too.
 
2013-01-02 05:57:55 PM  

Weaver95: Mentat:
This is the second time now that the House GOP has screwed Americans on disaster relief (Joplin was the first).  I guess the mantra of the Cantor Republicans is "Meh, you're on your own."

I just can't believe the GOP did this.  its like the House leadership has no concept of negative consequences.


Holy farking shiat, how on earth can you possibly blame this on the GOP. The president, democrats, 99%ers and moonbats got exactly what the wanted. Written by the Democrat Senate, crammed down the throats of the house Rep because they did not want the President blamming them for raising taxes on the middle class.

Democrats, you own this pig, lock, stock and barrel. Do not try an act otherwise.
 
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