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(Huffington Post)   Russell Crowe agrees with Adam Lambert that no one in the cast of Les Miserables could sing   (huffingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2013-01-02 01:51:29 PM  
5 votes:
I have never seen or heard a more moving Dream a Dream.

Enjoyed the movie much more than the theater version and Anne's I Dream a Dream was worth the price of the popcorn alone.
2013-01-02 04:57:21 PM  
3 votes:

fusillade762: I'll break the trend. An old GF's parents took us to see the play once and I absolutely hated it. I don't mind musicals but do they have to sing EVERYTHING? Would not repeat the experience if you paid me.


To be honest I think it's usually misrepresented most of the time by being called a musical. It's really an Operetta. And lots of people like operettas and operas. Otherwise Rent and Jesus Christ Superstar would never have been so successful.

/Only one of those examples made it into movie form fully intact
//which one do you think was the successful one?
2013-01-02 02:31:35 PM  
3 votes:

DamnYankees: It must stink to be the worst part of a movie, but Crowe was the worst part of Les Mis.


And when that is true, and it was, it means the performances by everyone else must have been stellar, and they were.
2013-01-02 02:14:11 PM  
3 votes:
Never saw the stage play, so I have no prejudices.

Les Miz was enthralling.

I thought Crowe was subpar, however, my musician wife told me I was expecting too much. It may or may not apply that plenty of other leading singers were not virtuosos (Rex Hamilton, Yul Brynner, Zero Mostel, RObert Preston, Carol Channing etc.) yet defined their roles.

If you want to talk about crimes to musical cinema:

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This felch (and the f*cking woeful Alice In Wonderland) makes me retroactively hate everything Tim Burton has ever done. Never has a leading musical theater actor been horribly miscast (Hugh Jackman would have been the perfect 'name' actor to play it).
2013-01-02 02:05:51 PM  
3 votes:
I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".

/talking about everyone, internet commenters, co-workers, etc
2013-01-02 04:31:12 PM  
2 votes:
I have to disagree with the majority of the people who did not enjoy Jackman's portrayal of Valjean. He was able to do something that is near impossible in the stage version and that is impart "true" emotion into the song. You can feel his pain and anguish when he sings, and that is the most endearing quality of his performance. I was disappointed with his inability to sing the falsetto portion of Bring Him Home, but felt that he did make the performance his own.

I also agree the Amanda Seyfried's performance as adult Cossette was the only time i have not been significantly annoyed by that part.

Also Adam Lambert is an Idiot who needs to realize the only reason he is "famous" is because he came in second in a popularity contest. He is a mediocre singer at best (professionally) and is no where near qualified to critique others performance. Though i do think he probably would have done okay as one of the Lovely Ladies.
2013-01-02 03:50:56 PM  
2 votes:

AnotherBluesStringer: Hearing Jackman butcher the shiat out of "Bring Him Home" is what did it for me.


Yeah he did butcher it, but that song was pretty much written for Colm Wilkinson.
2013-01-02 02:58:10 PM  
2 votes:
WTF, Anne Hathaway's performance of I Dreamed A Dream makes Morissey look like the happiest man who ever lived. I was moved strongly when I heard it on her NPR interview a few weeks ago; I was ready to open up my veins after seeing the whole thing yesterday. How the fark is that not a successful performance?
2013-01-02 02:27:02 PM  
2 votes:

sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".


I don't know. Maybe because most people *cough cough women cough* have owned the original London cast recordings and also their preference of either the 10th Anniversary or 25th Anniversary concert editions and the Concert DVDs as well as having a healthy amount shuffled through their playlists for the better part of 30 years.

And Ann Hathaway was so good she almost made me forget to b*tch about the Stars performance when leaving the theater.

meanmutton: What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.


What are you talking about? There are probably a dozen movie adaptations of that book, the most recent being a 1999 rendition starring Liam Neeson, Geoffry Rush, and Uma Thurman.
2013-01-02 02:15:56 PM  
2 votes:

meanmutton: What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.



Haven't there been several?
2013-01-02 01:48:52 PM  
2 votes:

AnotherBluesStringer: borg: Wasn't Crowe a singer before he was an actor and Doesn't Jackman  a Tony for best actor in musical theatre?

I liked Crowe in Les Mis. That being said, his band sucked.

Jackman is a fantastic singer. I hated his interpretation of Valjean's songs.


Pretty much this. Jackman's song & dance number at the Oscars was really freakin good. He's a talented man. This wasn't up his alley but lots of people would love to be as so-so as he was in that film. The director wanted it a bit rough around the edges and that's pretty much what he got.

Oh also SBC was great fun so the haters can stick that in their berets and revolve.
2013-01-02 12:26:34 PM  
2 votes:
It must stink to be the worst part of a movie, but Crowe was the worst part of Les Mis.
2013-01-04 10:23:51 AM  
1 vote:

Rocket To Russia: AeAe: dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.

Absolutely. Since the book was written in French, the movie should have been done in French. It should be sub-titled so non-French speakers can follow along.

Idiot.

Pardon, but you're the idiot. The movie is set in France. The peasants have cockney accents. Is it so hard to put on a French accent? You know, as actors? Did anybody making the film think about this for a second?


No. Nobody over the past 32 years, in 126 countries with hundreds of thousands of performances in nearly every language spoken on the planet has ever thought of that.
2013-01-03 05:11:23 PM  
1 vote:
A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.
2013-01-02 06:16:11 PM  
1 vote:
I liked Crowe as Javert. He was supposed to be a hard, pitiless man, and that's what he sounded like.
2013-01-02 05:25:22 PM  
1 vote:
Not that Adam Lambert is wrong, but he should be careful about throwing stones in a glass house. None of these pop singers would be anything if it wasn't for amplification and someone on the mixing board. If they tried to sing in a 4,000 seat opera house without a microphone, their thin shrill voices wouldn't be audible in the balcony.
2013-01-02 04:34:15 PM  
1 vote:

DamnYankees: Agreed I thought he was great. I would be more than happy for him to win Best Actor - not that he will.


If Daniel Day Lewis doesn't win Best Actor, I will eat a entire mall kisok of hats.
2013-01-02 04:32:37 PM  
1 vote:

Maysin: I have to disagree with the majority of the people who did not enjoy Jackman's portrayal of Valjean. He was able to do something that is near impossible in the stage version and that is impart "true" emotion into the song. You can feel his pain and anguish when he sings, and that is the most endearing quality of his performance. I was disappointed with his inability to sing the falsetto portion of Bring Him Home, but felt that he did make the performance his own.


Agreed I thought he was great. I would be more than happy for him to win Best Actor - not that he will.
2013-01-02 04:30:02 PM  
1 vote:
If they make a sequel to this:

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I will watch it. Make it happen, Crowe.
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2013-01-02 04:22:29 PM  
1 vote:
This version of Les Miserables is neither fish nor fowl; neither strictly a musical or a dramatic movie, it tries to be both. For trying to do two things at once, it amazingly doesn't outright fail, but it doesn't outright succeed either.

Javert was fine, and Adam Lambert is just angry because he didn't get cast to play Marius or Eponine.
2013-01-02 02:58:22 PM  
1 vote:

rocinante721: This felch (and the f*cking woeful Alice In Wonderland) makes me retroactively hate everything Tim Burton has ever done. Never has a leading musical theater actor been horribly miscast (Hugh Jackman would have been the perfect 'name' actor to play it).


You know, I know it's unpopular to actually like stuff on Fark but I actually liked that movie adaptation. The only casting I hated was Helena Bonheim Carter because, let's face it, Sondheim is hard and complex and you need a true vet to carry it off. But Johnny Depp brought a more vulnerable performance to the role and I liked it. I was prepared, and I mean really prepared, to hate his performance. Instead I walked away really liking him. However this movie made me very weary when I heard that HBC was cast in Les Mis. Glad she actually brought it in this movie.
2013-01-02 02:49:02 PM  
1 vote:

chndrcks: I'm a big fan of Les Mis - grew up listening to it and saw it live many times (my family is involved with the arts). Overall, I really enjoyed the movie. I liked the rawness of the singing, but it's a personal preference. I really dislike tv/film musicals where it's obvious the song is recorded in a studio. Maybe it's just poor audio engineering, but I seem to notice in a lot of these cases there's a different sound/tone between dialogue and the song that starts, and it's just jarring to my ear. But setting that aside, this person is running down stairs, jumping over obstacles, and their voice never falters? I'd rather the realism, even if it isn't perfect (I feel similarly about things like auto-tune).

That being said, I had two main problems with the movie:

1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.

2) Changes made to Eponine. In all honesty, these weren't that big, but she's my favorite character so they bothered me more. Why change all the stuff with the notes? In the original, Marius asks her to take a note to Cosette, which she does (more or less), then she goes back to be with Marius and gets shot for her trouble. This makes Marius look like a selfish ass (which he is) and Eponine as foolishly in love with him. With the changes in the film, she looks selfish and is only shot 'doing the right thing' by bringing him the letter.

I could almost understand if they needed to make changes to save time, but then Gavroche takes the letter from Marius to val Jean, so they went out of their way to change the Eponine part.


Comment on the recording.. I saw a clip on YT that they used wireless radio microphones on the actors so that's "live" singing you're hearing. If the singers aren't faltering during those scenes, it's probably because they are well-rehearsed and/or they are that good.
2013-01-02 02:45:06 PM  
1 vote:

chndrcks: 1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.


If you've seen Master and Commander then you know he is a passionate actor (I prefer it when he plays more interesting character pieces, though). If this were a straight up adaptation of the book he would have executed it with flawless victory. His downfall was when he was asked to sing on camera. Definitely would have been the only time I would have approved of a studio recording a head of time because he took my #2 favorite song from that show and butchered it.
2013-01-02 02:35:56 PM  
1 vote:

KatjaMouse: AeAe: The revolutionaries were good as well

My sister and I agreed that even though logically we knew that they were singing live to a camera that every time those guys performed it was just as good as having a polished studio rendition. Those guys got the clear second place behind Hathaway's MVP performance.


Really! #2 for me was Redmayne. He was surprisingly good. The revolutionaries were 3rd. All of them were top-notch, but Enroljas was best.
2013-01-02 02:35:43 PM  
1 vote:

KatjaMouse: AeAe: The revolutionaries were good as well

My sister and I agreed that even though logically we knew that they were singing live to a camera that every time those guys performed it was just as good as having a polished studio rendition. Those guys got the clear second place behind Hathaway's MVP performance.


They were mostly stage actors, so could sing.
2013-01-02 02:34:02 PM  
1 vote:

rocinante721: Never saw the stage play, so I have no prejudices.

Les Miz was enthralling.

I thought Crowe was subpar, however, my musician wife told me I was expecting too much. It may or may not apply that plenty of other leading singers were not virtuosos (Rex Hamilton, Yul Brynner, Zero Mostel, RObert Preston, Carol Channing etc.) yet defined their roles.

If you want to talk about crimes to musical cinema:

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This felch (and the f*cking woeful Alice In Wonderland) makes me retroactively hate everything Tim Burton has ever done. Never has a leading musical theater actor been horribly miscast (Hugh Jackman would have been the perfect 'name' actor to play it).


You're just bitter because this is the second musical you've gone to where Helena Bonham Carter has served street meat in the poor restaurant she runs.
2013-01-02 02:32:01 PM  
1 vote:

AeAe: The revolutionaries were good as well


My sister and I agreed that even though logically we knew that they were singing live to a camera that every time those guys performed it was just as good as having a polished studio rendition. Those guys got the clear second place behind Hathaway's MVP performance.
2013-01-02 02:29:12 PM  
1 vote:
Saw the movie yesterday, I thought it was great.

That said, I'm used to the stage music, so Hugh Jackman doesn't compare. He's a great actor, but the quality of his voice just didn't do that part justice.

Anne Hathaway did a great job, as did Eddie Redmayne. Amanda Seyfried was good as well and that cute girl that played Eponine was awesome, of course. But she was in the stage production, so that was expected.

The revolutionaries were good as well (Enroljas?).

I cried for most of the film and I'm a dude (no homo).
2013-01-02 02:28:05 PM  
1 vote:

devilEther: The worst was Amanda Seyfreid.


For me it was the first time I didn't absolutely hate adult Cosette.
2013-01-02 02:21:49 PM  
1 vote:
Was it any worse than this guy?
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2013-01-02 02:18:52 PM  
1 vote:

meanmutton: What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.


There is a 10-hour miniseries with Gerard Depardieu. In French (good for you since you like the actual book)
2013-01-02 02:18:08 PM  
1 vote:

meanmutton: can


There is a 10-hour miniseries with Gerard Depardieu. In French (good for you since you like the actual book)
2013-01-02 02:12:50 PM  
1 vote:

Brick-House: I have never seen or heard a more moving Dream a Dream.


I thought Susan Boyle's was more powerful. I'm not trolling either, I just wasn't moved.

RoyFokker'sGhost: The real payoff for that piece was all the slieght of hand that was being done to steel from the guests while he's singing about steeling from the guests.


Probably my favorite scene in the movie, but then again Master of the House is my favorite song in the show, so I'm a little biased.

Did anyone else feel like the closeups were using too wide-angle a lens? Or is Anne Hathaway's head really that big?
2013-01-02 02:06:38 PM  
1 vote:

error 303: ucked overall, but that was probably the best possible adaptation of stage material for the big screen.

Two hours of shaky closeups of peoples faces yell



You haven't seen alot of movie musicals I feel. The Music Man, West Side story, The Rocky Horror Picture show, and The Sound of Music are all adapted musicals. If you think the film Les Mis is better than the film the Music Man you are insane.

I wont even grant that this is the best filmed version of Les Mis if that is what you mean. Either of the concert films are better.

I was a Tom Hooper appologist with the King's Speech, but Les Mis is a catastrophe.

Russel Crowe farking butchered his part and his songs. For what he did to Stars I mean my god man.
2013-01-02 02:06:08 PM  
1 vote:
What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.
2013-01-02 02:02:08 PM  
1 vote:

Brick-House: I have never seen or heard a more moving Dream a Dream.

Enjoyed the movie much more than the theater version and Anne's I Dream a Dream was worth the price of the popcorn alone.


Also: Samantha Barks as Eponine was pretty damn good


WhoIsWillo: DamnYankees: It must stink to be the worst part of a movie, but Crowe was the worst part of Les Mis.

Sasha Baron Cohen.


It was a differnt interpretation of the Thenadiers, I'll grant you. Instead of the usual exuberance, it was more of a 'same shiat, different day' feel to it. The real payoff for that piece was all the slieght of hand that was being done to steel from the guests while he's singing about steeling from the guests. Also, Helena Bohnam Carter's bit in 'Master of the House', where instead of actually complaining about her husband, she's using it as a seductive lead-in to pickpocket a guest while pretending to ask for sympathy was another interesting take.

Bottom line for me: Overall enjoyed, average performance for most of the cast, outstanding performances by Anne Hathaway and Samantha Barks
2013-01-02 01:53:48 PM  
1 vote:
Russel Crowe was pretty good. Anne Hathaway was really good.

Movie sucked overall, but that was probably the best possible adaptation of stage material for the big screen.

Two hours of shaky closeups of peoples faces yelling at the camera just isn't good entertainment.
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2013-01-02 01:51:27 PM  
1 vote:
Karaoke Contest Winner. Pathetic.
2013-01-02 01:36:57 PM  
1 vote:

borg: Wasn't Crowe a singer before he was an actor and Doesn't Jackman  a Tony for best actor in musical theatre?


I liked Crowe in Les Mis. That being said, his band sucked.

Jackman is a fantastic singer. I hated his interpretation of Valjean's songs.
2013-01-02 01:34:04 PM  
1 vote:
Wasn't Crowe a singer before he was an actor and Doesn't Jackman  a Tony for best actor in musical theatre?
2013-01-02 12:07:52 PM  
1 vote:
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