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2013-01-02 06:36:23 PM  

Jim from Saint Paul: And people say LES MIS is sad. Watch the second act of Into The Woods and get back to me.


No one is alone.
 
2013-01-02 06:36:33 PM  

moviemeister76: I think it definitely worked for Anne Hathaway, Samantha Barks and Eddie Redmayne's numbers. In fact, what I find interesting about the film is that Hathaway's musical numbers lose their potency once you can't see her.


I see this... I still think it's a risky move for such a big budget, but I can definitely understand the 'looking like they are into their performance' thing. I've seen some people who look like they phoned in their performance, and I've seen people who genuinely are feeling their performance, and getting the proper enjoyment out of the art of performing. I saw Anne Hathaway when she hosted SNL, and I was impressed with her singing. I know the musical acts are usually lip-synced, but I don't know if songs during the monologue are, but part of the fun was just watching her.
 
2013-01-02 06:40:20 PM  

devilEther: Sasha Baron Cohen and Helena Bonham Carter were a great comedic team. They should do another movie together.

Russel Crowe wasn't so bad.

The worst was Amanda Seyfreid.


Amanda Seyfried can actually sing
She had the strongest voice over all.
 
2013-01-02 06:42:19 PM  

WhoIsWillo: DamnYankees: Agreed I thought he was great. I would be more than happy for him to win Best Actor - not that he will.

If Daniel Day Lewis doesn't win Best Actor, I will eat a entire mall kisok of hats.


He'll probably win, but I'd give it to Denzel Washington for flight. Damn fine performance.
 
2013-01-02 06:42:29 PM  
one of the strangest things from my Les Mis experience was how all through the previews, the theater was rocking it's 14.8 5-d sense-surround experience, but then when the actual movie started....it was just what I presumed to be the two stereo speakers behind the screen. It was especially jarring considering the big fanfare at the start of the movie. I just would expect that this massive musical would be using the full force of audio technology.

I'm also curious as to whether the "warble-ly visual soft focus" techinique that was used on the closeups of sung songs (it's most apparent during Anne's big numbers, but pretty clear throughout the whole movie) were done via in camera at the time of the shot, or if it was all done digitally in visual post production.
 
2013-01-02 06:46:04 PM  

Shirley Ujest: Amanda Seyfried can actually sing
She had the strongest voice over all.


I was very pleasantly surprised. I thought her portion of In My Life was fantastic. Doesn't seem to be on iTunes though.
 
2013-01-02 06:46:33 PM  

R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: He'll probably win, but I'd give it to Denzel Washington for flight. Damn fine performance.


Denzel was great in Flight.
Daniel Day Lewis WAS Lincoln. It was one of the best performance I've seen in years. And I think Lincoln was a flawed film.
 
2013-01-02 07:10:03 PM  

chndrcks:
1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.


I just wanted to say that Les Mis with Robocop instead of Javert would be AMAZING.
 
2013-01-02 07:12:12 PM  

perilsensitive: chndrcks:
1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.


I just wanted to say that Les Mis with Robocop instead of Javert would be AMAZING.


Can definitely see Javert saying "Dead or alive, you're coming with me."
 
2013-01-02 07:17:29 PM  
Oh, it's always iffy to try to bring a great stage musical to the movie screen. Musicals are written and performed with the audience a minimum of 30 feet from the actors and have to be performed in such a way that the emotion can be felt in the last row of the balcony. Movies are shot up-close&personal, and the raw intensity that stage actors are used to giving their performances (essential when your audience can't even see your face) gets shall we say overdone in medium close-up. And musicals are an even harder sell because people don't go around singing all the time.

And like the pre-release trailers said, the director can either pre-record the songs and have the cast lip-synch on set, or try to shoot the musical numbers live, both of which have problems; the former means the actors can't put the emotional punch into their singing, the latter that every missed note gets filmed. It's a tossup.

I really doubt, though, that "no one" could sing, since they're all Broadway musical actors. They're just not what we're used to hearing in movies.
 
2013-01-02 07:30:41 PM  

WhoIsWillo: Daniel Day Lewis WAS Lincoln. It was one of the best performance I've seen in years. And I think Lincoln was a flawed film.


agreed. there wasn't a moment i looked at the screen and didnt think he was Lincoln.
 
2013-01-02 07:54:10 PM  

FormlessOne: ds_4815: sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".

This is how bad info gets passed around.

Huh? Sure, no one's mentioned the world's longest-running musical, seen by 60 million folks in 42 countries, the one that, in 2013 alone, has 20 venues performing it in the United States, in like two decades.

Read "I haven't heard anything about it in like two decades, and so I'm projecting that experience to everyone else in an attempt to stay relevant."


My reference. It's what it sounded like to me, anyway.
 
2013-01-02 08:14:19 PM  
I think this was on Fark a while back: Christopher Plummer in The Sound of Music, own voice vs. Bill Lee who dubbed over Plummer's singing in the released film (second link is soundtrack album because the actual film clip is blocked.) It's movie magic when the replacement singer matches what the on-screen actor's voice "should" sound like. On the other hand, I don't know if audiences would accept it today. Too cynical.
 
2013-01-02 08:29:52 PM  

Brick-House: I have never seen or heard a more moving Dream a Dream.

Enjoyed the movie much more than the theater version and Anne's I Dream a Dream was worth the price of the popcorn alone.


So much THIS!
 
2013-01-02 08:31:37 PM  
I think they could have lowered the scale on "Bring Him Home" to better match his range. I thought Anne & Hugh were fine, but I was annoyed as hell by the constant long close-ups. I didn't need to see snot running down Crowes face, blech!
 
2013-01-02 09:23:59 PM  

Peekoo: In the book Eponine has nearly no redeeming qualities.


Luckily, in the movie, Samantha Barks has plenty of redeeming qualities.
If one actor or actress had their part down, it was Samantha.
Cute as can be.
/do your own gis.
 
2013-01-02 09:47:09 PM  
www.stanus.net

Master of the house, doling out the...
 
2013-01-02 10:06:17 PM  

Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.



Uh, please go read ANYTHING about the movie. The vocals were live, that's the whole big deal about the singing.

http://screenrant.com/les-miserables-music-songs-featurette/
 
2013-01-02 10:17:08 PM  
I saw "Les Mis" this past  weekend, for the first time in any way, shape, or form. I was moved, and impressed by all of the performances. Yes, Russell Crowe's singing was the weakest; perhaps the sing-speak would have been more effective. I didn't realize that it was an operetta, as opposed to a musical, so when Hugh Jackman started singing almost right away, I was a little put off. But only for a moment.

Two thumbs up! Especially for Anne Hathaway, Samantha Barks, and Amanda Seyfried. And the cute revolutionary guys.
 
2013-01-02 10:37:33 PM  
They may have shown the performers being fitted with body mics but there is zero chance the audio on the takes were used for much if anything. It would have been impossible for the majority of that cast to do so with that score and deliver anything close to usable. And the composers and Cameron Mackintosh would never have allowed it anyway.  I'm looking forward to seeing it.
 
2013-01-02 10:44:05 PM  

T.M.S.: They may have shown the performers being fitted with body mics but there is zero chance the audio on the takes were used for much if anything. It would have been impossible for the majority of that cast to do so with that score and deliver anything close to usable. And the composers and Cameron Mackintosh would never have allowed it anyway.  I'm looking forward to seeing it.


Those were live takes. That's why this movie was ground breaking in that vocals they used in the film were not dubbed in a studio.

Watch this: Link
 
2013-01-02 10:47:36 PM  

AeAe: T.M.S.: They may have shown the performers being fitted with body mics but there is zero chance the audio on the takes were used for much if anything. It would have been impossible for the majority of that cast to do so with that score and deliver anything close to usable. And the composers and Cameron Mackintosh would never have allowed it anyway.  I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Those were live takes. That's why this movie was ground breaking in that vocals they used in the film were not dubbed in a studio.

Watch this: Link


Oh, and as for the orchestra - what they did during filming was outfit the actors with wireless earphones and a pianist off screen would play the accompaniment to the tempo that the actor was singing.

They would then over dub the orchestral accompaniment using the piano as the guide so they are in synch with the singer.
 
2013-01-02 11:17:48 PM  

Solon Isonomia: KatjaMouse: Solon Isonomia: WTF, Anne Hathaway's performance of I Dreamed A Dream makes Morissey look like the happiest man who ever lived. I was moved strongly when I heard it on her NPR interview a few weeks ago; I was ready to open up my veins after seeing the whole thing yesterday. How the fark is that not a successful performance?

And if I Dreamed a Dream and her death weren't sad enough, there she is, all skinny and near bald at the end there waiting to escort Hugh to the great beyond. Even in death she wasn't allowed to keep her hair? Yeah, the audience in my theater pretty much kept it together through out that movie but then when she came back it was nothing but a room full of sniffles. Even Future Mr. Mouse needed a minute during the credits to recover because he was just so GD sad.

So, for some levity, here's Ann vs. Sam Jackson in a Sad Off.

Damn right, motherfarker - how can slavery compete with a film who's title literally translates to "The Miserable?"


Nothing says Christmas like slaves and whores.
 
2013-01-02 11:22:19 PM  

Christian Bale: Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.


Uh, please go read ANYTHING about the movie. The vocals were live, that's the whole big deal about the singing.

http://screenrant.com/les-miserables-music-songs-featurette/


Yeah, you're roughly 8 hours too late to chime in on this. It's been discussed, and I've given my opinion on the pros and cons of doing something like this, but I DO so value your input...
 
2013-01-03 12:11:26 AM  

AeAe: T.M.S.: They may have shown the performers being fitted with body mics but there is zero chance the audio on the takes were used for much if anything. It would have been impossible for the majority of that cast to do so with that score and deliver anything close to usable. And the composers and Cameron Mackintosh would never have allowed it anyway.  I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Those were live takes. That's why this movie was ground breaking in that vocals they used in the film were not dubbed in a studio.

Watch this: Link


They were live takes. But the "technology" they were describing was the ability to fix them to an insane degree in post. And that's just to make up for the difficulty of working on a set. The real difficulty was the true voices of many of the leads.

I do think its admirable the efforts that are being taken to accurately capture live musical performance on a film. And I hope they continue.
 
2013-01-03 12:32:35 AM  

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: If they make a sequel to this:

1.bp.blogspot.com

I will watch it. Make it happen, Crowe.
/Picture is much larger than intended


It's as large as it should be.

And his otherwise physical hindrances work here ... he's old and heavy enough to be a fantastic mid-later career Aubrey.
 
2013-01-03 12:43:18 AM  
If anyone has the right to call out bad singing, it's Adam Lambert.

Adam singing live with Queen: "Who Wants To Live Forever?"
 
2013-01-03 01:11:20 AM  

WhoIsWillo: Jim from Saint Paul: And people say LES MIS is sad. Watch the second act of Into The Woods and get back to me.

No one is alone.


Gets me every damn time. One of my absolute favorite musicals.
 
2013-01-03 02:47:34 AM  
I love Les Mis, and I think the one from a few years ago was fairly well done (Liam Neeson?). I want to see this, but there is a voice in my head saying "you hate musicals". And to the poster who said Todd Sweeney was a crime... yes, yes it was. I hate that movie. If anyone near me starts to sing the intro song (something, something London...) I get stabby.

I still need to see the Hobbit. I am just afraid that the Onion's satire saying it has 50 minutes of Bilbo packing... isn't satire. Other than that, I will suck it up.
 
2013-01-03 07:45:51 AM  
There's an episode of Spongebob Squarepants where Spongebob and the Kurgan--I mean, Mr. Crabs--are singing a song together. THEY would have been better.
 
2013-01-03 08:37:03 AM  
I hope Samantha Barks gets a chance at a pure acting role after this. She did a great job in the movie but pointed out how weak the other singers were when you compare them to someone on Broadway.
 
2013-01-03 09:32:05 AM  

uncleacid: So what woman did Adam want to play?


Only following plenty of autotune and WUBWUBWUB VOOM VOOM Wooom Woooom WUBWUBWUB, etc.
 
2013-01-03 09:46:42 AM  

Carth: I hope Samantha Barks gets a chance at a pure acting role after this. She did a great job in the movie but pointed out how weak the other singers were when you compare them to someone on Broadway.


Remember, though. There's someone else in the cast who has a Tony for Best Actor in a Musical.
 
2013-01-03 10:56:16 AM  

KatjaMouse: Carth: I hope Samantha Barks gets a chance at a pure acting role after this. She did a great job in the movie but pointed out how weak the other singers were when you compare them to someone on Broadway.

Remember, though. There's someone else in the cast who has a Tony for Best Actor in a Musical.


I never saw The Boy From Oz but I don't think Hugh Jackman did that bad a job in the movie. After listing to his interviews it sounds like he was trying to sing while acting which he pulled off. Unlike Russell Crowe who i felt really bad for.
 
2013-01-03 12:00:18 PM  

Carth: I never saw The Boy From Oz but I don't think Hugh Jackman did that bad a job in the movie. After listing to his interviews it sounds like he was trying to sing while acting which he pulled off. Unlike Russell Crowe who i felt really bad for.


Yeah. I mean, he's proven several times that he can act and I bet he doesn't have a bad voice. It was kind of a "chewing bubblegum and walking at the same time" kind of thing for him.
 
2013-01-03 12:05:05 PM  
I liked the movie, without qualifications. I've never seen Les Mis before but I do generally enjoy musicals. I'm probably well served by not having some classic performance which I've loved for 20 years to compare it to.
 
2013-01-03 12:13:49 PM  
My only real complaint was that the acting was rather hammy during some of the more dramatic songs. Other than that, the actors did an acceptable performance as singers. I wasn't expecting Broadway. I was expecting Hollywood. And they did just fine.
 
2013-01-03 12:46:27 PM  

FormlessOne: ds_4815: sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".

This is how bad info gets passed around.
Huh? Sure, no one's mentioned the world's longest-running musical, seen by 60 million folks in 42 countries, the one that, in 2013 alone, has 20 venues performing it in the United States, in like two decades.

Read "I haven't heard anything about it in like two decades, and so I'm projecting that experience to everyone else in an attempt to stay relevant." Oddly enough,


Well, to anyone who doesn't follow or enjoy musicals (the majority of men) it's mostly accurate. I knew it existed, and that "I dreamed a dream" song was from it, and that's pretty much it and all it will ever be to me. I prefer stories to not be coated in a layer of cheese unless it's for comedy.
 
2013-01-03 01:01:44 PM  

AeAe: Jim from Saint Paul: I have only seen the trailers. The onl;y person who sounds awful is Amanda Sigfried(sp?). She sounds like her teeth are chattering or that someone is ruccing her kneck visciously up and down on every note.

/hot in Chloe though

Seyfried. She's actually a trained singer and that technique is called "vibrato".


That was too much vibrato. I disliked her performance the most... she made me absolutely despise and loathe Cosette. There wasn't a smooth note in her performance.
 
2013-01-03 01:02:37 PM  

WhoIsWillo: Sasha Baron Cohen.


I discovered watching Les Mis that I absolutely loathe SBC no matter how he's made up or who he's playing. No matter what he's doing, the backpfeifengesicht shines through.
 
2013-01-03 01:06:02 PM  

error 303: Two hours of shaky closeups of peoples faces yelling at the camera just isn't good entertainment.


Les Mis is a good story, and I liked the actual movie version that came out years ago, but all the singing just gets in the way of plot and character development. Plus, I can't stand the choppy style of latter-day movie musicals, with lame enjambments, extended lines, odd rhyming schemes and no center to the songs. Older stuff, Roger & Hammerstein, Tin Pan Alley or even Gilbert & Sullivan I can work with.
 
2013-01-03 03:09:32 PM  

WhoIsWillo: zarberg: Hollywood needs to make some good Sondheim movies. I would kill to see Into the Woods done right.

Hollywood version of Into the Woods? They're actually in pre-production for a version right now. This is my dream cast:

Baker - Neil Patrick Harris
Baker's Wife - Anne Hathaway
Cinderella - Amanda Seyfried
Jack - Josh Gad
Narriator / Old Man - Mickey Rooney
Witch - Meryl Streep
Wolf / Prince - Will Arnett

Did I miss any major roles?


Red Riding Hood. I knew some great child actresses, but they're too old now. Raquel Castro comes to mind, but I think she's actually a legal adult now.
 
2013-01-03 03:44:07 PM  

zarberg: WhoIsWillo: zarberg: Hollywood needs to make some good Sondheim movies. I would kill to see Into the Woods done right.

Hollywood version of Into the Woods? They're actually in pre-production for a version right now. This is my dream cast:

Baker - Neil Patrick Harris
Baker's Wife - Anne Hathaway
Cinderella - Amanda Seyfried
Jack - Josh Gad
Narriator / Old Man - Mickey Rooney
Witch - Meryl Streep
Wolf / Prince - Will Arnett

Did I miss any major roles?

Red Riding Hood. I knew some great child actresses, but they're too old now. Raquel Castro comes to mind, but I think she's actually a legal adult now.


Hollywood would try to thrust some Disney pop-tart in that role. But you wouldn't really need a kid so much as maybe a teen that can pull off some sass.
 
2013-01-03 03:50:18 PM  
You haven't really heard Les Mis until you've heard it in the original Klingon.
 
2013-01-03 05:11:23 PM  
A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.
 
2013-01-03 05:19:20 PM  

KatjaMouse: Hollywood would try to thrust some Disney pop-tart in that role. But you wouldn't really need a kid so much as maybe a teen that can pull off some sass.


Maybe Chloë Moretz? Can she sing?
 
2013-01-03 05:45:55 PM  

dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.


The show was originally all written in French, with a debut in Paris and supposed to last only a few performances. What it was turned into shows the brilliance of Cameron Mackintosh.
 
2013-01-03 07:50:35 PM  

dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.


Absolutely. Since the book was written in French, the movie should have been done in French. It should be sub-titled so non-French speakers can follow along.

Idiot.
 
2013-01-04 12:17:33 AM  
Overall I enjoyed the film. Hathaway knocked it out of the park. The Marius guy was good, too. Crowe and Jackman were tolerable, but I was kind of disappointed that they weren't stellar.

Truth be told, I thought Liam Neeson and Geoffrey Rush made a KICK ASS Valjean and Javert in the other movie.
 
2013-01-04 09:06:46 AM  

AeAe: dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.

Absolutely. Since the book was written in French, the movie should have been done in French. It should be sub-titled so non-French speakers can follow along.

Idiot.

Pardon

, but you're the idiot. The movie is set in France. The peasants have cockney accents. Is it so hard to put on a French accent? You know, as actors? Did anybody making the film think about this for a second?
 
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