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2013-01-02 12:07:52 PM
www.morgasm.net
 
2013-01-02 12:26:34 PM
It must stink to be the worst part of a movie, but Crowe was the worst part of Les Mis.
 
2013-01-02 01:31:54 PM
Hearing Jackman butcher the shiat out of "Bring Him Home" is what did it for me.
 
2013-01-02 01:34:04 PM
Wasn't Crowe a singer before he was an actor and Doesn't Jackman  a Tony for best actor in musical theatre?
 
2013-01-02 01:36:57 PM

borg: Wasn't Crowe a singer before he was an actor and Doesn't Jackman  a Tony for best actor in musical theatre?


I liked Crowe in Les Mis. That being said, his band sucked.

Jackman is a fantastic singer. I hated his interpretation of Valjean's songs.
 
2013-01-02 01:38:40 PM

DamnYankees: It must stink to be the worst part of a movie, but Crowe was the worst part of Les Mis.


Sasha Baron Cohen.
 
2013-01-02 01:48:52 PM

AnotherBluesStringer: borg: Wasn't Crowe a singer before he was an actor and Doesn't Jackman  a Tony for best actor in musical theatre?

I liked Crowe in Les Mis. That being said, his band sucked.

Jackman is a fantastic singer. I hated his interpretation of Valjean's songs.


Pretty much this. Jackman's song & dance number at the Oscars was really freakin good. He's a talented man. This wasn't up his alley but lots of people would love to be as so-so as he was in that film. The director wanted it a bit rough around the edges and that's pretty much what he got.

Oh also SBC was great fun so the haters can stick that in their berets and revolve.
 
2013-01-02 01:51:14 PM

DamnYankees: It must stink to be the worst part of a movie, but Crowe was the worst part of Les Mis.


YOU DO NOT INTERRUPT RUSSELL CROWE'S POETRY, YA TESTICLE!
 
ecl
2013-01-02 01:51:27 PM
Karaoke Contest Winner. Pathetic.
 
2013-01-02 01:51:29 PM
I have never seen or heard a more moving Dream a Dream.

Enjoyed the movie much more than the theater version and Anne's I Dream a Dream was worth the price of the popcorn alone.
 
2013-01-02 01:53:48 PM
Russel Crowe was pretty good. Anne Hathaway was really good.

Movie sucked overall, but that was probably the best possible adaptation of stage material for the big screen.

Two hours of shaky closeups of peoples faces yelling at the camera just isn't good entertainment.
 
2013-01-02 01:54:34 PM
At least he commits suicide at the end.
right?
 
2013-01-02 01:54:59 PM

ecl: Karaoke Contest Winner. Pathetic.


Well evidently he was born with working ears though, so what's your beef?
 
2013-01-02 02:02:08 PM

Brick-House: I have never seen or heard a more moving Dream a Dream.

Enjoyed the movie much more than the theater version and Anne's I Dream a Dream was worth the price of the popcorn alone.


Also: Samantha Barks as Eponine was pretty damn good


WhoIsWillo: DamnYankees: It must stink to be the worst part of a movie, but Crowe was the worst part of Les Mis.

Sasha Baron Cohen.


It was a differnt interpretation of the Thenadiers, I'll grant you. Instead of the usual exuberance, it was more of a 'same shiat, different day' feel to it. The real payoff for that piece was all the slieght of hand that was being done to steel from the guests while he's singing about steeling from the guests. Also, Helena Bohnam Carter's bit in 'Master of the House', where instead of actually complaining about her husband, she's using it as a seductive lead-in to pickpocket a guest while pretending to ask for sympathy was another interesting take.

Bottom line for me: Overall enjoyed, average performance for most of the cast, outstanding performances by Anne Hathaway and Samantha Barks
 
2013-01-02 02:03:12 PM

error 303: Two hours of shaky closeups of peoples faces yelling at the camera just isn't good entertainment.


This. So much this. I was so disappointed.

The only non-yeller was Russell Crowe, who was just absolutely awful as Javert. not the worst singer in the world, but definitely didn't do the part any justice.
 
2013-01-02 02:03:22 PM
Yeah, if only it had been given that in-studio Maroon 5 glossy sheen. Then it would have been great.
 
2013-01-02 02:05:51 PM
I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".

/talking about everyone, internet commenters, co-workers, etc
 
2013-01-02 02:06:05 PM
So what woman did Adam want to play?
 
2013-01-02 02:06:08 PM
What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.
 
2013-01-02 02:06:38 PM

error 303: ucked overall, but that was probably the best possible adaptation of stage material for the big screen.

Two hours of shaky closeups of peoples faces yell



You haven't seen alot of movie musicals I feel. The Music Man, West Side story, The Rocky Horror Picture show, and The Sound of Music are all adapted musicals. If you think the film Les Mis is better than the film the Music Man you are insane.

I wont even grant that this is the best filmed version of Les Mis if that is what you mean. Either of the concert films are better.

I was a Tom Hooper appologist with the King's Speech, but Les Mis is a catastrophe.

Russel Crowe farking butchered his part and his songs. For what he did to Stars I mean my god man.
 
2013-01-02 02:10:36 PM
It's been awhile, but I don't recall that many song-and-dance routines in the book.
 
2013-01-02 02:12:50 PM

Brick-House: I have never seen or heard a more moving Dream a Dream.


I thought Susan Boyle's was more powerful. I'm not trolling either, I just wasn't moved.

RoyFokker'sGhost: The real payoff for that piece was all the slieght of hand that was being done to steel from the guests while he's singing about steeling from the guests.


Probably my favorite scene in the movie, but then again Master of the House is my favorite song in the show, so I'm a little biased.

Did anyone else feel like the closeups were using too wide-angle a lens? Or is Anne Hathaway's head really that big?
 
2013-01-02 02:14:11 PM
Never saw the stage play, so I have no prejudices.

Les Miz was enthralling.

I thought Crowe was subpar, however, my musician wife told me I was expecting too much. It may or may not apply that plenty of other leading singers were not virtuosos (Rex Hamilton, Yul Brynner, Zero Mostel, RObert Preston, Carol Channing etc.) yet defined their roles.

If you want to talk about crimes to musical cinema:

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This felch (and the f*cking woeful Alice In Wonderland) makes me retroactively hate everything Tim Burton has ever done. Never has a leading musical theater actor been horribly miscast (Hugh Jackman would have been the perfect 'name' actor to play it).
 
2013-01-02 02:15:56 PM

meanmutton: What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.



Haven't there been several?
 
2013-01-02 02:18:08 PM

meanmutton: can


There is a 10-hour miniseries with Gerard Depardieu. In French (good for you since you like the actual book)
 
2013-01-02 02:18:52 PM

meanmutton: What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.


There is a 10-hour miniseries with Gerard Depardieu. In French (good for you since you like the actual book)
 
2013-01-02 02:21:49 PM
Was it any worse than this guy?
www.filmfamous.com
 
2013-01-02 02:25:21 PM
Sasha Baron Cohen and Helena Bonham Carter were a great comedic team. They should do another movie together.

Russel Crowe wasn't so bad.

The worst was Amanda Seyfreid.
 
2013-01-02 02:25:27 PM
In related news, I've been singing BABY GOT BACK to the tune of OVERTURE/WORK SONG since Sunday
 
2013-01-02 02:26:13 PM
Jackman didn't have the voice for his role. I think he did the best that he could, but his voice was a bit too thin for those high notes.
Crowe ruined the movie for me. If he was the best person for that role they should've just done open auditions because somewhere in the world there's a good looking, muscular dude who can sing like he's actually got a pair between his legs.
 
2013-01-02 02:26:23 PM

meanmutton: What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.


There's been a few movies based on the book. I quite like the 1978 TV movie with Richard Jordan and Anthony Perkins, but I'd like to see the French miniseries with Depardieu (and the book is big enough to warrant a miniseries). There's also a 1998 version with Liam Neeson and Geoffrey Rush, which I'd say has a stronger cast.

I've heard a few songs from the musical and they're as bad as what Andrew Lloyd-Webber puts out.
 
2013-01-02 02:27:02 PM

sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".


I don't know. Maybe because most people *cough cough women cough* have owned the original London cast recordings and also their preference of either the 10th Anniversary or 25th Anniversary concert editions and the Concert DVDs as well as having a healthy amount shuffled through their playlists for the better part of 30 years.

And Ann Hathaway was so good she almost made me forget to b*tch about the Stars performance when leaving the theater.

meanmutton: What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.


What are you talking about? There are probably a dozen movie adaptations of that book, the most recent being a 1999 rendition starring Liam Neeson, Geoffry Rush, and Uma Thurman.
 
2013-01-02 02:28:05 PM

devilEther: The worst was Amanda Seyfreid.


For me it was the first time I didn't absolutely hate adult Cosette.
 
2013-01-02 02:29:12 PM
Saw the movie yesterday, I thought it was great.

That said, I'm used to the stage music, so Hugh Jackman doesn't compare. He's a great actor, but the quality of his voice just didn't do that part justice.

Anne Hathaway did a great job, as did Eddie Redmayne. Amanda Seyfried was good as well and that cute girl that played Eponine was awesome, of course. But she was in the stage production, so that was expected.

The revolutionaries were good as well (Enroljas?).

I cried for most of the film and I'm a dude (no homo).
 
2013-01-02 02:31:35 PM

DamnYankees: It must stink to be the worst part of a movie, but Crowe was the worst part of Les Mis.


And when that is true, and it was, it means the performances by everyone else must have been stellar, and they were.
 
2013-01-02 02:32:01 PM

AeAe: The revolutionaries were good as well


My sister and I agreed that even though logically we knew that they were singing live to a camera that every time those guys performed it was just as good as having a polished studio rendition. Those guys got the clear second place behind Hathaway's MVP performance.
 
2013-01-02 02:32:09 PM

KatjaMouse: devilEther: The worst was Amanda Seyfreid.

For me it was the first time I didn't absolutely hate adult Cosette.


admittedly, I went in intent on hating her no matter what.
 
2013-01-02 02:34:02 PM

rocinante721: Never saw the stage play, so I have no prejudices.

Les Miz was enthralling.

I thought Crowe was subpar, however, my musician wife told me I was expecting too much. It may or may not apply that plenty of other leading singers were not virtuosos (Rex Hamilton, Yul Brynner, Zero Mostel, RObert Preston, Carol Channing etc.) yet defined their roles.

If you want to talk about crimes to musical cinema:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 299x454]
This felch (and the f*cking woeful Alice In Wonderland) makes me retroactively hate everything Tim Burton has ever done. Never has a leading musical theater actor been horribly miscast (Hugh Jackman would have been the perfect 'name' actor to play it).


You're just bitter because this is the second musical you've gone to where Helena Bonham Carter has served street meat in the poor restaurant she runs.
 
2013-01-02 02:35:43 PM

KatjaMouse: AeAe: The revolutionaries were good as well

My sister and I agreed that even though logically we knew that they were singing live to a camera that every time those guys performed it was just as good as having a polished studio rendition. Those guys got the clear second place behind Hathaway's MVP performance.


They were mostly stage actors, so could sing.
 
2013-01-02 02:35:56 PM

KatjaMouse: AeAe: The revolutionaries were good as well

My sister and I agreed that even though logically we knew that they were singing live to a camera that every time those guys performed it was just as good as having a polished studio rendition. Those guys got the clear second place behind Hathaway's MVP performance.


Really! #2 for me was Redmayne. He was surprisingly good. The revolutionaries were 3rd. All of them were top-notch, but Enroljas was best.
 
2013-01-02 02:38:08 PM

devilEther: KatjaMouse: devilEther: The worst was Amanda Seyfreid.

For me it was the first time I didn't absolutely hate adult Cosette.

admittedly, I went in intent on hating her no matter what.


Cosette. Perhaps the most reviled ingenue in theater.
 
2013-01-02 02:39:56 PM

AeAe: Really! #2 for me was Redmayne. He was surprisingly good. The revolutionaries were 3rd. All of them were top-notch, but Enroljas was best.


I like to somewhat lump them together as an ensemble but you're absolutely right.
 
2013-01-02 02:41:52 PM
I'm a big fan of Les Mis - grew up listening to it and saw it live many times (my family is involved with the arts). Overall, I really enjoyed the movie. I liked the rawness of the singing, but it's a personal preference. I really dislike tv/film musicals where it's obvious the song is recorded in a studio. Maybe it's just poor audio engineering, but I seem to notice in a lot of these cases there's a different sound/tone between dialogue and the song that starts, and it's just jarring to my ear. But setting that aside, this person is running down stairs, jumping over obstacles, and their voice never falters? I'd rather the realism, even if it isn't perfect (I feel similarly about things like auto-tune).

That being said, I had two main problems with the movie:

1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.

2) Changes made to Eponine. In all honesty, these weren't that big, but she's my favorite character so they bothered me more. Why change all the stuff with the notes? In the original, Marius asks her to take a note to Cosette, which she does (more or less), then she goes back to be with Marius and gets shot for her trouble. This makes Marius look like a selfish ass (which he is) and Eponine as foolishly in love with him. With the changes in the film, she looks selfish and is only shot 'doing the right thing' by bringing him the letter.

I could almost understand if they needed to make changes to save time, but then Gavroche takes the letter from Marius to val Jean, so they went out of their way to change the Eponine part.
 
2013-01-02 02:42:48 PM

FooDog: Was it any worse than this guy?
[www.filmfamous.com image 490x370]


No. But even that guy was better than this guy: Link

Never. Gets. Old.
 
2013-01-02 02:45:06 PM

chndrcks: 1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.


If you've seen Master and Commander then you know he is a passionate actor (I prefer it when he plays more interesting character pieces, though). If this were a straight up adaptation of the book he would have executed it with flawless victory. His downfall was when he was asked to sing on camera. Definitely would have been the only time I would have approved of a studio recording a head of time because he took my #2 favorite song from that show and butchered it.
 
2013-01-02 02:49:02 PM

chndrcks: I'm a big fan of Les Mis - grew up listening to it and saw it live many times (my family is involved with the arts). Overall, I really enjoyed the movie. I liked the rawness of the singing, but it's a personal preference. I really dislike tv/film musicals where it's obvious the song is recorded in a studio. Maybe it's just poor audio engineering, but I seem to notice in a lot of these cases there's a different sound/tone between dialogue and the song that starts, and it's just jarring to my ear. But setting that aside, this person is running down stairs, jumping over obstacles, and their voice never falters? I'd rather the realism, even if it isn't perfect (I feel similarly about things like auto-tune).

That being said, I had two main problems with the movie:

1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.

2) Changes made to Eponine. In all honesty, these weren't that big, but she's my favorite character so they bothered me more. Why change all the stuff with the notes? In the original, Marius asks her to take a note to Cosette, which she does (more or less), then she goes back to be with Marius and gets shot for her trouble. This makes Marius look like a selfish ass (which he is) and Eponine as foolishly in love with him. With the changes in the film, she looks selfish and is only shot 'doing the right thing' by bringing him the letter.

I could almost understand if they needed to make changes to save time, but then Gavroche takes the letter from Marius to val Jean, so they went out of their way to change the Eponine part.


Comment on the recording.. I saw a clip on YT that they used wireless radio microphones on the actors so that's "live" singing you're hearing. If the singers aren't faltering during those scenes, it's probably because they are well-rehearsed and/or they are that good.
 
2013-01-02 02:54:39 PM

AeAe: Comment on the recording.. I saw a clip on YT that they used wireless radio microphones on the actors so that's "live" singing you're hearing. If the singers aren't faltering during those scenes, it's probably because they are well-rehearsed and/or they are that good.


They were commenting that they typically don't like TV/Movie musicals because of the perfect performances. The comment was about how much they liked the direction because of that musical choice right off.
 
2013-01-02 02:58:10 PM
WTF, Anne Hathaway's performance of I Dreamed A Dream makes Morissey look like the happiest man who ever lived. I was moved strongly when I heard it on her NPR interview a few weeks ago; I was ready to open up my veins after seeing the whole thing yesterday. How the fark is that not a successful performance?
 
2013-01-02 02:58:22 PM

rocinante721: This felch (and the f*cking woeful Alice In Wonderland) makes me retroactively hate everything Tim Burton has ever done. Never has a leading musical theater actor been horribly miscast (Hugh Jackman would have been the perfect 'name' actor to play it).


You know, I know it's unpopular to actually like stuff on Fark but I actually liked that movie adaptation. The only casting I hated was Helena Bonheim Carter because, let's face it, Sondheim is hard and complex and you need a true vet to carry it off. But Johnny Depp brought a more vulnerable performance to the role and I liked it. I was prepared, and I mean really prepared, to hate his performance. Instead I walked away really liking him. However this movie made me very weary when I heard that HBC was cast in Les Mis. Glad she actually brought it in this movie.
 
2013-01-02 03:02:38 PM

chewielouie: FooDog: Was it any worse than this guy?
[www.filmfamous.com image 490x370]

No. But even that guy was better than this guy: Link

Never. Gets. Old.


Yeah, that one is pretty failtastic. Seen it before. At least they had the good sense not to cast him which also what should have happened to Pierce Brosnan.
 
2013-01-02 03:03:18 PM

Solon Isonomia: WTF, Anne Hathaway's performance of I Dreamed A Dream makes Morissey look like the happiest man who ever lived. I was moved strongly when I heard it on her NPR interview a few weeks ago; I was ready to open up my veins after seeing the whole thing yesterday. How the fark is that not a successful performance?


And if I Dreamed a Dream and her death weren't sad enough, there she is, all skinny and near bald at the end there waiting to escort Hugh to the great beyond. Even in death she wasn't allowed to keep her hair? Yeah, the audience in my theater pretty much kept it together through out that movie but then when she came back it was nothing but a room full of sniffles. Even Future Mr. Mouse needed a minute during the credits to recover because he was just so GD sad.

So, for some levity, here's Ann vs. Sam Jackson in a Sad Off.
 
2013-01-02 03:11:33 PM

KatjaMouse: Solon Isonomia: WTF, Anne Hathaway's performance of I Dreamed A Dream makes Morissey look like the happiest man who ever lived. I was moved strongly when I heard it on her NPR interview a few weeks ago; I was ready to open up my veins after seeing the whole thing yesterday. How the fark is that not a successful performance?

And if I Dreamed a Dream and her death weren't sad enough, there she is, all skinny and near bald at the end there waiting to escort Hugh to the great beyond. Even in death she wasn't allowed to keep her hair? Yeah, the audience in my theater pretty much kept it together through out that movie but then when she came back it was nothing but a room full of sniffles. Even Future Mr. Mouse needed a minute during the credits to recover because he was just so GD sad.

So, for some levity, here's Ann vs. Sam Jackson in a Sad Off.


Damn right, motherfarker - how can slavery compete with a film who's title literally translates to "The Miserable?"
 
2013-01-02 03:16:38 PM

chndrcks: I'm a big fan of Les Mis - grew up listening to it and saw it live many times (my family is involved with the arts). Overall, I really enjoyed the movie. I liked the rawness of the singing, but it's a personal preference. I really dislike tv/film musicals where it's obvious the song is recorded in a studio. Maybe it's just poor audio engineering, but I seem to notice in a lot of these cases there's a different sound/tone between dialogue and the song that starts, and it's just jarring to my ear. But setting that aside, this person is running down stairs, jumping over obstacles, and their voice never falters? I'd rather the realism, even if it isn't perfect (I feel similarly about things like auto-tune).

That being said, I had two main problems with the movie:

1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.

2) Changes made to Eponine. In all honesty, these weren't that big, but she's my favorite character so they bothered me more. Why change all the stuff with the notes? In the original, Marius asks her to take a note to Cosette, which she does (more or less), then she goes back to be with Marius and gets shot for her trouble. This makes Marius look like a selfish ass (which he is) and Eponine as foolishly in love with him. With the changes in the film, she looks selfish and is only shot 'doing the right thing' by bringing him the letter.

I could almost understand if they needed to make changes to save time, but then Gavroche takes the letter from Marius to val Jean, so they went out of their way to change the Eponine part.


In the book Eponine has nearly no redeeming qualities.
 
2013-01-02 03:21:34 PM

AnotherBluesStringer: meanmutton: What's really annoying is that because of that horrible musical, we can't get a movie adaptation of the actual book. That cast doing an actual movie instead of a musical would have been an awesome movie.


Haven't there been several?


There was one back in the 90s but I didn't really like it and, frankly, isn't that long enough for them to have redone it three times? Like Three Muskateers and Batman?
 
2013-01-02 03:22:19 PM

KatjaMouse: chndrcks: 1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.

If you've seen Master and Commander then you know he is a passionate actor (I prefer it when he plays more interesting character pieces, though). If this were a straight up adaptation of the book he would have executed it with flawless victory. His downfall was when he was asked to sing on camera.


The worst of it is that I think he (or the director) got stuck with the idea that he had to sing in the higher, nasal register. There is one segment, when he's been tied up at the Barricade (the "How fitting that you should kill with a knife" sequence), when he's singing/speaking in "The Russel Crowe Voice" and it is absolutely PERFECT. My wife and I both practically gasped at hearing it because it would have been amazing if he'd been in that voice for the movie.

It would not have necessarily been a pleasant singing part to listen to, but it would have had amazing character and would have fitted in very well with the rest of the roughness from the other case members. I really think that the small flash of what could have been turned it from "disappointment in casting" to "what the fark it could have been perfect raaaage".

You know, as much rage as a pair of music nerds can really conjure up, which is pretty much nil.
 
2013-01-02 03:23:15 PM

meanmutton: There was one back in the 90s but I didn't really like it and, frankly, isn't that long enough for them to have redone it three times? Like Three Muskateers and Batman?


People actually have fun with Batman and The Musketeers. You think Hollywood wants to continually revisit something that literally means The Miserable?
 
2013-01-02 03:31:31 PM
At least we know russel crowes band is a farkin pile of shiat
 
2013-01-02 03:39:20 PM

borg: Wasn't Crowe a singer before he was an actor and Doesn't Jackman  a Tony for best actor in musical theatre?


Yes, and I enjoy many of his performances as a singer.

This wasn't one of them.
 
2013-01-02 03:48:16 PM

FooDog: Was it any worse than this guy?
[www.filmfamous.com image 490x370]


They both sucked.

/hated her in that role
 
2013-01-02 03:50:56 PM

AnotherBluesStringer: Hearing Jackman butcher the shiat out of "Bring Him Home" is what did it for me.


Yeah he did butcher it, but that song was pretty much written for Colm Wilkinson.
 
2013-01-02 03:51:59 PM
I have only seen the trailers. The onl;y person who sounds awful is Amanda Sigfried(sp?). She sounds like her teeth are chattering or that someone is ruccing her kneck visciously up and down on every note.

/hot in Chloe though
 
2013-01-02 04:01:19 PM
25.media.tumblr.com
You know who really sucked as Thenardier? Matt Lucas  he was awful IMHO
 
2013-01-02 04:03:00 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: I have only seen the trailers. The onl;y person who sounds awful is Amanda Sigfried(sp?). She sounds like her teeth are chattering or that someone is ruccing her kneck visciously up and down on every note.

/hot in Chloe though


Seyfried. She's actually a trained singer and that technique is called "vibrato".
 
2013-01-02 04:03:34 PM
Wait - are we seriously considering criticism from someone whose name we know only because he was a friggin' runner-up in a friggin' game show? Really?

Adam Lambert is an attention remora. Fark him.
 
2013-01-02 04:12:11 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: AnotherBluesStringer: Hearing Jackman butcher the shiat out of "Bring Him Home" is what did it for me.

Yeah he did butcher it, but that song was pretty much written for Colm Wilkinson.


I agree. I also liked Alfie Bow's version.
 
2013-01-02 04:16:53 PM
Before the film began I thought to myself, what if someone's phone rings during Anne's 'I Dreamed a Dream'. Sure enough one started ringing when the music started. no joke. At least they caught it on the third ring before she started singing.
If that was you, great work.
 
2013-01-02 04:19:36 PM
Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.
 
2013-01-02 04:19:39 PM
FWIW I liked Crowe as Javert- sure, his singing was rough but I thought it added to his performance as he put some oomph behind it for the most part.

/enjoyed the vast majority of Les Mis that I saw
//nodded off for 5 mins or so halfway through
///the GF was not impressed with me
////slashies for victory
 
2013-01-02 04:21:41 PM

sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".

/talking about everyone, internet commenters, co-workers, etc


I'll break the trend. An old GF's parents took us to see the play once and I absolutely hated it. I don't mind musicals but do they have to sing EVERYTHING? Would not repeat the experience if you paid me.
 
2013-01-02 04:22:27 PM

chewielouie: FooDog: Was it any worse than this guy?
[www.filmfamous.com image 490x370]

No. But even that guy was better than this guy: Link

Never. Gets. Old.


Wow, until he hit the high notes about 45 seconds into the actual song, the worst I could see is that his eyebrows wanted to attack me. After the high note, I was torn away fromt he eyebrows for the "singing"...

Ouch!
 
2013-01-02 04:22:29 PM
This version of Les Miserables is neither fish nor fowl; neither strictly a musical or a dramatic movie, it tries to be both. For trying to do two things at once, it amazingly doesn't outright fail, but it doesn't outright succeed either.

Javert was fine, and Adam Lambert is just angry because he didn't get cast to play Marius or Eponine.
 
2013-01-02 04:29:38 PM

Peekoo:
In the book Eponine has nearly no redeeming qualities.


That's ... disappointing. I haven't made it through the book yet, despite several attempts.
 
2013-01-02 04:30:02 PM
If they make a sequel to this:

1.bp.blogspot.com

I will watch it. Make it happen, Crowe.
/Picture is much larger than intended
 
2013-01-02 04:31:12 PM
I have to disagree with the majority of the people who did not enjoy Jackman's portrayal of Valjean. He was able to do something that is near impossible in the stage version and that is impart "true" emotion into the song. You can feel his pain and anguish when he sings, and that is the most endearing quality of his performance. I was disappointed with his inability to sing the falsetto portion of Bring Him Home, but felt that he did make the performance his own.

I also agree the Amanda Seyfried's performance as adult Cossette was the only time i have not been significantly annoyed by that part.

Also Adam Lambert is an Idiot who needs to realize the only reason he is "famous" is because he came in second in a popularity contest. He is a mediocre singer at best (professionally) and is no where near qualified to critique others performance. Though i do think he probably would have done okay as one of the Lovely Ladies.
 
2013-01-02 04:32:37 PM

Maysin: I have to disagree with the majority of the people who did not enjoy Jackman's portrayal of Valjean. He was able to do something that is near impossible in the stage version and that is impart "true" emotion into the song. You can feel his pain and anguish when he sings, and that is the most endearing quality of his performance. I was disappointed with his inability to sing the falsetto portion of Bring Him Home, but felt that he did make the performance his own.


Agreed I thought he was great. I would be more than happy for him to win Best Actor - not that he will.
 
2013-01-02 04:33:35 PM

borg: [25.media.tumblr.com image 640x360]
You know who really sucked as Thenardier? Matt Lucas  he was awful IMHO


Made you realize just how talented Alun Armstrong is.
 
2013-01-02 04:34:15 PM

DamnYankees: Agreed I thought he was great. I would be more than happy for him to win Best Actor - not that he will.


If Daniel Day Lewis doesn't win Best Actor, I will eat a entire mall kisok of hats.
 
2013-01-02 04:40:47 PM
Wait. . . . who is adam lambart?
 
2013-01-02 04:44:33 PM

Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.


Goes to show what you know. What was note-worthy about this film is that the singing was the actual performance during the take.

Sound mixing/editing behind the scenes: Link
 
2013-01-02 04:50:04 PM

WhoIsWillo: DamnYankees: Agreed I thought he was great. I would be more than happy for him to win Best Actor - not that he will.

If Daniel Day Lewis doesn't win Best Actor, I will eat a entire mall kisok of hats.


Someone get a screenshot and bookmark the thread.
 
2013-01-02 04:52:01 PM
I really liked Crowe as Javert, which also happens to be my favorite part. Yes, I know he didn't actually sing... but for "Stars," "Javert's Suicide," and most of "The Confrontation," I would argue song-speak-singing worked just fine.

/come at me bro
//aware no one else liked him
 
2013-01-02 04:53:16 PM

sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".


This is how bad info gets passed around.
 
2013-01-02 04:57:21 PM

fusillade762: I'll break the trend. An old GF's parents took us to see the play once and I absolutely hated it. I don't mind musicals but do they have to sing EVERYTHING? Would not repeat the experience if you paid me.


To be honest I think it's usually misrepresented most of the time by being called a musical. It's really an Operetta. And lots of people like operettas and operas. Otherwise Rent and Jesus Christ Superstar would never have been so successful.

/Only one of those examples made it into movie form fully intact
//which one do you think was the successful one?
 
2013-01-02 04:59:16 PM

Maysin: I have to disagree with the majority of the people who did not enjoy Jackman's portrayal of Valjean. He was able to do something that is near impossible in the stage version and that is impart "true" emotion into the song. You can feel his pain and anguish when he sings, and that is the most endearing quality of his performance. I was disappointed with his inability to sing the falsetto portion of Bring Him Home, but felt that he did make the performance his own.

I also agree the Amanda Seyfried's performance as adult Cossette was the only time i have not been significantly annoyed by that part.

Also Adam Lambert is an Idiot who needs to realize the only reason he is "famous" is because he came in second in a popularity contest. He is a mediocre singer at best (professionally) and is no where near qualified to critique others performance. Though i do think he probably would have done okay as one of the Lovely Ladies.


Adam Lambert was a theatre kid and performed in a few musicals professionally before Idol - think he played Fieryo in Wicked - so maybe he's not up to your standards because of American Idol, but he comes from that background, so I think he has every right to say what he likes. And anyone who has working ears can hear the Russell is out of his element here.
 
2013-01-02 04:59:59 PM

The Dreaded Rear Admiral: I really liked Crowe as Javert, which also happens to be my favorite part. Yes, I know he didn't actually sing... but for "Stars," "Javert's Suicide," and most of "The Confrontation," I would argue song-speak-singing worked just fine.

/come at me bro
//aware no one else liked him


I thought he did fine in "The Confrontation", but when he was singing alone, he was not good. However, when balanced against another voice, he worked quite well. Except the first couple lines in "One Day More", which was really the one number I loved that did not translate to the screen at all.
 
2013-01-02 05:01:15 PM

AeAe: Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.

Goes to show what you know. What was note-worthy about this film is that the singing was the actual performance during the take.

Sound mixing/editing behind the scenes: Link


Wow, what an absolutely stupid idea... I think it's funny that at least 3 of the people who got named on the screen had "re-recording" in their job title somewhere... Just further proof that they knew that it was a dumb idea to begin with.
 
2013-01-02 05:01:30 PM

ds_4815: sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".

This is how bad info gets passed around.

Huh? Sure, no one's mentioned the world's longest-running musical, seen by 60 million folks in 42 countries, the one that, in 2013 alone, has 20 venues performing it in the United States, in like two decades.

Read "I haven't heard anything about it in like two decades, and so I'm projecting that experience to everyone else in an attempt to stay relevant." Oddly enough,
 
2013-01-02 05:11:37 PM

Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.


True, but as someone else pointed out, ADR wasn't done as much for the vocals in this production. They literally wanted to do this as they would a musical production (as best they could at least, and then put it on film). That meant the mixing/mastering of the vocals as well (i.e., not much is done in terms of processing the audio of a live musical, therefore not much was done in post either).
 
2013-01-02 05:13:14 PM
Hollywood needs to make some good Sondheim movies. I would kill to see Into the Woods done right.
 
2013-01-02 05:14:52 PM

AeAe: Jim from Saint Paul: I have only seen the trailers. The onl;y person who sounds awful is Amanda Sigfried(sp?). She sounds like her teeth are chattering or that someone is ruccing her kneck visciously up and down on every note.

/hot in Chloe though

Seyfried. She's actually a trained singer and that technique is called "vibrato".


Unique technique name.

It, from what I have heard so far, is not enjoyable. Not the way she sounds anyway.

Did I mention Chloe yet?
 
2013-01-02 05:25:22 PM
Not that Adam Lambert is wrong, but he should be careful about throwing stones in a glass house. None of these pop singers would be anything if it wasn't for amplification and someone on the mixing board. If they tried to sing in a 4,000 seat opera house without a microphone, their thin shrill voices wouldn't be audible in the balcony.
 
2013-01-02 05:26:48 PM

meathome: Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.

True, but as someone else pointed out, ADR wasn't done as much for the vocals in this production. They literally wanted to do this as they would a musical production (as best they could at least, and then put it on film). That meant the mixing/mastering of the vocals as well (i.e., not much is done in terms of processing the audio of a live musical, therefore not much was done in post either).


Yeah, but a stage performance has the benefit of being produced on a stage that has at least some acoustics factored into its design, even a sound stage is better than recording all of your audio live in the open air, with no control over the actual environment. That's really why they moved to ADR anyway. Too many random sounds, stray wind, echoey corners, etc... I just don't see the benefit to this, outside of the fact that they can now say they recorded it "live". In other words, bragging rights.
 
2013-01-02 05:36:44 PM

AeAe: Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.

Goes to show what you know. What was note-worthy about this film is that the singing was the actual performance during the take.

Sound mixing/editing behind the scenes: Link


Exactly. In filming these scenes, the actors are all wearing wireless mics, pretty much exactly like they do on stage now. I think a sizable portion of the digital effects budget went to removing them from the actor's faces.
 
2013-01-02 05:47:54 PM

Mikey1969: meathome: Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.

True, but as someone else pointed out, ADR wasn't done as much for the vocals in this production. They literally wanted to do this as they would a musical production (as best they could at least, and then put it on film). That meant the mixing/mastering of the vocals as well (i.e., not much is done in terms of processing the audio of a live musical, therefore not much was done in post either).

Yeah, but a stage performance has the benefit of being produced on a stage that has at least some acoustics factored into its design, even a sound stage is better than recording all of your audio live in the open air, with no control over the actual environment. That's really why they moved to ADR anyway. Too many random sounds, stray wind, echoey corners, etc... I just don't see the benefit to this, outside of the fact that they can now say they recorded it "live". In other words, bragging rights.


The idea is that when you record in a studio and then lipsync on stage, you are tied to that performance in your acting, the pacing and everything. You can't make little adjustments on set.

If you sing it on set and then redub it in the studio, you have the benefit of better equipment and controlled conditions, but you have to match your earlier performance, and supposedly the result doesn't have the same emotional impact. Plus, modern technology has greatly reduced the benefit of recording in studio as opposed to on a sound stage,

From all I have heard, the main point of recording on the set is to allow the actor to do more acting through their voice than they otherwise could recording the sound separately. Also let's the director have more control, knowing that he has both the visual and audio components to work with on set. Did it work? Don't know, haven't seen it yet, and likely won't get to until it hits Netflix or TV.
 
2013-01-02 06:00:51 PM

ReverendLoki: The idea is that when you record in a studio and then lipsync on stage, you are tied to that performance in your acting, the pacing and everything. You can't make little adjustments on set.

If you sing it on set and then redub it in the studio, you have the benefit of better equipment and controlled conditions, but you have to match your earlier performance, and supposedly the result doesn't have the same emotional impact. Plus, modern technology has greatly reduced the benefit of recording in studio as opposed to on a sound stage,

From all I have heard, the main point of recording on the set is to allow the actor to do more acting through their voice than they otherwise could recording the sound separately. Also let's the director have more control, knowing that he has both the visual and audio components to work with on set. Did it work? Don't know, haven't seen it yet, and likely won't get to until it hits Netflix or TV.


I get that, I just see WAY too many variables to try and fight to make it worthwhile, but that's just me talking. I think the musical genre hit its zenith with Cop Rock, so what do I know?
 
2013-01-02 06:10:01 PM

Mikey1969: meathome: Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.

True, but as someone else pointed out, ADR wasn't done as much for the vocals in this production. They literally wanted to do this as they would a musical production (as best they could at least, and then put it on film). That meant the mixing/mastering of the vocals as well (i.e., not much is done in terms of processing the audio of a live musical, therefore not much was done in post either).

Yeah, but a stage performance has the benefit of being produced on a stage that has at least some acoustics factored into its design, even a sound stage is better than recording all of your audio live in the open air, with no control over the actual environment. That's really why they moved to ADR anyway. Too many random sounds, stray wind, echoey corners, etc... I just don't see the benefit to this, outside of the fact that they can now say they recorded it "live". In other words, bragging rights.


As someone else pointed out, the point of doing it was so that the actors would not be tied to a recording done months beforehand. As for whether or not it worked, I think there were some mixed results.

I think it definitely worked for Anne Hathaway, Samantha Barks and Eddie Redmayne's numbers. In fact, what I find interesting about the film is that Hathaway's musical numbers lose their potency once you can't see her. I bought several of the songs from iTunes today, and listening to "I Dreamed a Dream" without being able to see her performance left me cold. Same for Samantha Barks. Watching her expression while performing "On My Own" was a sublime experience.

On the other hand, I think it did some harm to "Master of the House." I like Sasha's choices as far as his voice, but he literally doesn't stop moving from the beginning to the end of that song, and a lot of what he is doing is rather complicated. I think the physicality of it affected his breathing and strength of his voice. I do like the song, and it is one of my favorite scenes, but I definitely think it was one of the numbers that would have been helped with an actor just lip-synching. Same goes for Helena Bonham Carter. She definitely appeared to be struggling with having to remember to sing and move at the same time.

It worked for Hugh Jackman sometimes, and not for others. I think he thought way too much about how he was going to perform some of the individual numbers, so some of the times he slips between singing to talking sounds forced. Other times, though, it's astonishingly beautiful.
 
2013-01-02 06:16:11 PM
I liked Crowe as Javert. He was supposed to be a hard, pitiless man, and that's what he sounded like.
 
2013-01-02 06:20:54 PM

zarberg: Hollywood needs to make some good Sondheim movies. I would kill to see Into the Woods done right.


Hollywood version of Into the Woods? They're actually in pre-production for a version right now. This is my dream cast:

Baker - Neil Patrick Harris
Baker's Wife - Anne Hathaway
Cinderella - Amanda Seyfried
Jack - Josh Gad
Narriator / Old Man - Mickey Rooney
Witch - Meryl Streep
Wolf / Prince - Will Arnett

Did I miss any major roles?
 
2013-01-02 06:24:24 PM

WhoIsWillo: DamnYankees: Agreed I thought he was great. I would be more than happy for him to win Best Actor - not that he will.

If Daniel Day Lewis doesn't win Best Actor, I will eat a entire mall kisok of hats.


Basically the entire reason why Jackman won't win.
 
2013-01-02 06:30:45 PM

WhoIsWillo: zarberg: Hollywood needs to make some good Sondheim movies. I would kill to see Into the Woods done right.

Hollywood version of Into the Woods? They're actually in pre-production for a version right now. This is my dream cast:

Baker - Neil Patrick Harris
Baker's Wife - Anne Hathaway
Cinderella - Amanda Seyfried
Jack - Josh Gad
Narriator / Old Man - Mickey Rooney
Witch - Meryl Streep
Wolf / Prince - Will Arnett

Did I miss any major roles?


And people say LES MIS is sad. Watch the second act of Into The Woods and get back to me.
 
2013-01-02 06:36:23 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: And people say LES MIS is sad. Watch the second act of Into The Woods and get back to me.


No one is alone.
 
2013-01-02 06:36:33 PM

moviemeister76: I think it definitely worked for Anne Hathaway, Samantha Barks and Eddie Redmayne's numbers. In fact, what I find interesting about the film is that Hathaway's musical numbers lose their potency once you can't see her.


I see this... I still think it's a risky move for such a big budget, but I can definitely understand the 'looking like they are into their performance' thing. I've seen some people who look like they phoned in their performance, and I've seen people who genuinely are feeling their performance, and getting the proper enjoyment out of the art of performing. I saw Anne Hathaway when she hosted SNL, and I was impressed with her singing. I know the musical acts are usually lip-synced, but I don't know if songs during the monologue are, but part of the fun was just watching her.
 
2013-01-02 06:40:20 PM

devilEther: Sasha Baron Cohen and Helena Bonham Carter were a great comedic team. They should do another movie together.

Russel Crowe wasn't so bad.

The worst was Amanda Seyfreid.


Amanda Seyfried can actually sing
She had the strongest voice over all.
 
2013-01-02 06:42:19 PM

WhoIsWillo: DamnYankees: Agreed I thought he was great. I would be more than happy for him to win Best Actor - not that he will.

If Daniel Day Lewis doesn't win Best Actor, I will eat a entire mall kisok of hats.


He'll probably win, but I'd give it to Denzel Washington for flight. Damn fine performance.
 
2013-01-02 06:42:29 PM
one of the strangest things from my Les Mis experience was how all through the previews, the theater was rocking it's 14.8 5-d sense-surround experience, but then when the actual movie started....it was just what I presumed to be the two stereo speakers behind the screen. It was especially jarring considering the big fanfare at the start of the movie. I just would expect that this massive musical would be using the full force of audio technology.

I'm also curious as to whether the "warble-ly visual soft focus" techinique that was used on the closeups of sung songs (it's most apparent during Anne's big numbers, but pretty clear throughout the whole movie) were done via in camera at the time of the shot, or if it was all done digitally in visual post production.
 
2013-01-02 06:46:04 PM

Shirley Ujest: Amanda Seyfried can actually sing
She had the strongest voice over all.


I was very pleasantly surprised. I thought her portion of In My Life was fantastic. Doesn't seem to be on iTunes though.
 
2013-01-02 06:46:33 PM

R Kelly's Doo Doo Butter: He'll probably win, but I'd give it to Denzel Washington for flight. Damn fine performance.


Denzel was great in Flight.
Daniel Day Lewis WAS Lincoln. It was one of the best performance I've seen in years. And I think Lincoln was a flawed film.
 
2013-01-02 07:10:03 PM

chndrcks:
1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.


I just wanted to say that Les Mis with Robocop instead of Javert would be AMAZING.
 
2013-01-02 07:12:12 PM

perilsensitive: chndrcks:
1) Russell Crowe as Javert. The casting might make some sense if you think of Javert as an emotionless robocop, but Javert is as passionate as anyone else in the show. He's a Believer, he just has messed up beliefs.


I just wanted to say that Les Mis with Robocop instead of Javert would be AMAZING.


Can definitely see Javert saying "Dead or alive, you're coming with me."
 
2013-01-02 07:17:29 PM
Oh, it's always iffy to try to bring a great stage musical to the movie screen. Musicals are written and performed with the audience a minimum of 30 feet from the actors and have to be performed in such a way that the emotion can be felt in the last row of the balcony. Movies are shot up-close&personal, and the raw intensity that stage actors are used to giving their performances (essential when your audience can't even see your face) gets shall we say overdone in medium close-up. And musicals are an even harder sell because people don't go around singing all the time.

And like the pre-release trailers said, the director can either pre-record the songs and have the cast lip-synch on set, or try to shoot the musical numbers live, both of which have problems; the former means the actors can't put the emotional punch into their singing, the latter that every missed note gets filmed. It's a tossup.

I really doubt, though, that "no one" could sing, since they're all Broadway musical actors. They're just not what we're used to hearing in movies.
 
2013-01-02 07:30:41 PM

WhoIsWillo: Daniel Day Lewis WAS Lincoln. It was one of the best performance I've seen in years. And I think Lincoln was a flawed film.


agreed. there wasn't a moment i looked at the screen and didnt think he was Lincoln.
 
2013-01-02 07:54:10 PM

FormlessOne: ds_4815: sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".

This is how bad info gets passed around.

Huh? Sure, no one's mentioned the world's longest-running musical, seen by 60 million folks in 42 countries, the one that, in 2013 alone, has 20 venues performing it in the United States, in like two decades.

Read "I haven't heard anything about it in like two decades, and so I'm projecting that experience to everyone else in an attempt to stay relevant."


My reference. It's what it sounded like to me, anyway.
 
2013-01-02 08:14:19 PM
I think this was on Fark a while back: Christopher Plummer in The Sound of Music, own voice vs. Bill Lee who dubbed over Plummer's singing in the released film (second link is soundtrack album because the actual film clip is blocked.) It's movie magic when the replacement singer matches what the on-screen actor's voice "should" sound like. On the other hand, I don't know if audiences would accept it today. Too cynical.
 
2013-01-02 08:29:52 PM

Brick-House: I have never seen or heard a more moving Dream a Dream.

Enjoyed the movie much more than the theater version and Anne's I Dream a Dream was worth the price of the popcorn alone.


So much THIS!
 
2013-01-02 08:31:37 PM
I think they could have lowered the scale on "Bring Him Home" to better match his range. I thought Anne & Hugh were fine, but I was annoyed as hell by the constant long close-ups. I didn't need to see snot running down Crowes face, blech!
 
2013-01-02 09:23:59 PM

Peekoo: In the book Eponine has nearly no redeeming qualities.


Luckily, in the movie, Samantha Barks has plenty of redeeming qualities.
If one actor or actress had their part down, it was Samantha.
Cute as can be.
/do your own gis.
 
2013-01-02 09:47:09 PM
www.stanus.net

Master of the house, doling out the...
 
2013-01-02 10:06:17 PM

Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.



Uh, please go read ANYTHING about the movie. The vocals were live, that's the whole big deal about the singing.

http://screenrant.com/les-miserables-music-songs-featurette/
 
2013-01-02 10:17:08 PM
I saw "Les Mis" this past  weekend, for the first time in any way, shape, or form. I was moved, and impressed by all of the performances. Yes, Russell Crowe's singing was the weakest; perhaps the sing-speak would have been more effective. I didn't realize that it was an operetta, as opposed to a musical, so when Hugh Jackman started singing almost right away, I was a little put off. But only for a moment.

Two thumbs up! Especially for Anne Hathaway, Samantha Barks, and Amanda Seyfried. And the cute revolutionary guys.
 
2013-01-02 10:37:33 PM
They may have shown the performers being fitted with body mics but there is zero chance the audio on the takes were used for much if anything. It would have been impossible for the majority of that cast to do so with that score and deliver anything close to usable. And the composers and Cameron Mackintosh would never have allowed it anyway.  I'm looking forward to seeing it.
 
2013-01-02 10:44:05 PM

T.M.S.: They may have shown the performers being fitted with body mics but there is zero chance the audio on the takes were used for much if anything. It would have been impossible for the majority of that cast to do so with that score and deliver anything close to usable. And the composers and Cameron Mackintosh would never have allowed it anyway.  I'm looking forward to seeing it.


Those were live takes. That's why this movie was ground breaking in that vocals they used in the film were not dubbed in a studio.

Watch this: Link
 
2013-01-02 10:47:36 PM

AeAe: T.M.S.: They may have shown the performers being fitted with body mics but there is zero chance the audio on the takes were used for much if anything. It would have been impossible for the majority of that cast to do so with that score and deliver anything close to usable. And the composers and Cameron Mackintosh would never have allowed it anyway.  I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Those were live takes. That's why this movie was ground breaking in that vocals they used in the film were not dubbed in a studio.

Watch this: Link


Oh, and as for the orchestra - what they did during filming was outfit the actors with wireless earphones and a pianist off screen would play the accompaniment to the tempo that the actor was singing.

They would then over dub the orchestral accompaniment using the piano as the guide so they are in synch with the singer.
 
2013-01-02 11:17:48 PM

Solon Isonomia: KatjaMouse: Solon Isonomia: WTF, Anne Hathaway's performance of I Dreamed A Dream makes Morissey look like the happiest man who ever lived. I was moved strongly when I heard it on her NPR interview a few weeks ago; I was ready to open up my veins after seeing the whole thing yesterday. How the fark is that not a successful performance?

And if I Dreamed a Dream and her death weren't sad enough, there she is, all skinny and near bald at the end there waiting to escort Hugh to the great beyond. Even in death she wasn't allowed to keep her hair? Yeah, the audience in my theater pretty much kept it together through out that movie but then when she came back it was nothing but a room full of sniffles. Even Future Mr. Mouse needed a minute during the credits to recover because he was just so GD sad.

So, for some levity, here's Ann vs. Sam Jackson in a Sad Off.

Damn right, motherfarker - how can slavery compete with a film who's title literally translates to "The Miserable?"


Nothing says Christmas like slaves and whores.
 
2013-01-02 11:22:19 PM

Christian Bale: Mikey1969: Singer and former American Idol contestant Adam Lambert had some harsh words for the film, saying the vocals in "Les Miserables" should've been "studio recorded" and "sweetened."

Hey Adam, guess what... They ARE "studio recorded". Almost ALLL dialogue is redubbed, and singing definitely is. It's known in the business as ADR.


Uh, please go read ANYTHING about the movie. The vocals were live, that's the whole big deal about the singing.

http://screenrant.com/les-miserables-music-songs-featurette/


Yeah, you're roughly 8 hours too late to chime in on this. It's been discussed, and I've given my opinion on the pros and cons of doing something like this, but I DO so value your input...
 
2013-01-03 12:11:26 AM

AeAe: T.M.S.: They may have shown the performers being fitted with body mics but there is zero chance the audio on the takes were used for much if anything. It would have been impossible for the majority of that cast to do so with that score and deliver anything close to usable. And the composers and Cameron Mackintosh would never have allowed it anyway.  I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Those were live takes. That's why this movie was ground breaking in that vocals they used in the film were not dubbed in a studio.

Watch this: Link


They were live takes. But the "technology" they were describing was the ability to fix them to an insane degree in post. And that's just to make up for the difficulty of working on a set. The real difficulty was the true voices of many of the leads.

I do think its admirable the efforts that are being taken to accurately capture live musical performance on a film. And I hope they continue.
 
2013-01-03 12:32:35 AM

TeddyRooseveltsMustache: If they make a sequel to this:

1.bp.blogspot.com

I will watch it. Make it happen, Crowe.
/Picture is much larger than intended


It's as large as it should be.

And his otherwise physical hindrances work here ... he's old and heavy enough to be a fantastic mid-later career Aubrey.
 
2013-01-03 12:43:18 AM
If anyone has the right to call out bad singing, it's Adam Lambert.

Adam singing live with Queen: "Who Wants To Live Forever?"
 
2013-01-03 01:11:20 AM

WhoIsWillo: Jim from Saint Paul: And people say LES MIS is sad. Watch the second act of Into The Woods and get back to me.

No one is alone.


Gets me every damn time. One of my absolute favorite musicals.
 
2013-01-03 02:47:34 AM
I love Les Mis, and I think the one from a few years ago was fairly well done (Liam Neeson?). I want to see this, but there is a voice in my head saying "you hate musicals". And to the poster who said Todd Sweeney was a crime... yes, yes it was. I hate that movie. If anyone near me starts to sing the intro song (something, something London...) I get stabby.

I still need to see the Hobbit. I am just afraid that the Onion's satire saying it has 50 minutes of Bilbo packing... isn't satire. Other than that, I will suck it up.
 
2013-01-03 07:45:51 AM
There's an episode of Spongebob Squarepants where Spongebob and the Kurgan--I mean, Mr. Crabs--are singing a song together. THEY would have been better.
 
2013-01-03 08:37:03 AM
I hope Samantha Barks gets a chance at a pure acting role after this. She did a great job in the movie but pointed out how weak the other singers were when you compare them to someone on Broadway.
 
2013-01-03 09:32:05 AM

uncleacid: So what woman did Adam want to play?


Only following plenty of autotune and WUBWUBWUB VOOM VOOM Wooom Woooom WUBWUBWUB, etc.
 
2013-01-03 09:46:42 AM

Carth: I hope Samantha Barks gets a chance at a pure acting role after this. She did a great job in the movie but pointed out how weak the other singers were when you compare them to someone on Broadway.


Remember, though. There's someone else in the cast who has a Tony for Best Actor in a Musical.
 
2013-01-03 10:56:16 AM

KatjaMouse: Carth: I hope Samantha Barks gets a chance at a pure acting role after this. She did a great job in the movie but pointed out how weak the other singers were when you compare them to someone on Broadway.

Remember, though. There's someone else in the cast who has a Tony for Best Actor in a Musical.


I never saw The Boy From Oz but I don't think Hugh Jackman did that bad a job in the movie. After listing to his interviews it sounds like he was trying to sing while acting which he pulled off. Unlike Russell Crowe who i felt really bad for.
 
2013-01-03 12:00:18 PM

Carth: I never saw The Boy From Oz but I don't think Hugh Jackman did that bad a job in the movie. After listing to his interviews it sounds like he was trying to sing while acting which he pulled off. Unlike Russell Crowe who i felt really bad for.


Yeah. I mean, he's proven several times that he can act and I bet he doesn't have a bad voice. It was kind of a "chewing bubblegum and walking at the same time" kind of thing for him.
 
2013-01-03 12:05:05 PM
I liked the movie, without qualifications. I've never seen Les Mis before but I do generally enjoy musicals. I'm probably well served by not having some classic performance which I've loved for 20 years to compare it to.
 
2013-01-03 12:13:49 PM
My only real complaint was that the acting was rather hammy during some of the more dramatic songs. Other than that, the actors did an acceptable performance as singers. I wasn't expecting Broadway. I was expecting Hollywood. And they did just fine.
 
2013-01-03 12:46:27 PM

FormlessOne: ds_4815: sure haven't: I love how all of a sudden everyone on earth is an expert on "Les Mis". It hasn't been mentioned by anyone anywhere in like two decades, and all of a sudden everyone knows everything about it and "loves it".

This is how bad info gets passed around.
Huh? Sure, no one's mentioned the world's longest-running musical, seen by 60 million folks in 42 countries, the one that, in 2013 alone, has 20 venues performing it in the United States, in like two decades.

Read "I haven't heard anything about it in like two decades, and so I'm projecting that experience to everyone else in an attempt to stay relevant." Oddly enough,


Well, to anyone who doesn't follow or enjoy musicals (the majority of men) it's mostly accurate. I knew it existed, and that "I dreamed a dream" song was from it, and that's pretty much it and all it will ever be to me. I prefer stories to not be coated in a layer of cheese unless it's for comedy.
 
2013-01-03 01:01:44 PM

AeAe: Jim from Saint Paul: I have only seen the trailers. The onl;y person who sounds awful is Amanda Sigfried(sp?). She sounds like her teeth are chattering or that someone is ruccing her kneck visciously up and down on every note.

/hot in Chloe though

Seyfried. She's actually a trained singer and that technique is called "vibrato".


That was too much vibrato. I disliked her performance the most... she made me absolutely despise and loathe Cosette. There wasn't a smooth note in her performance.
 
2013-01-03 01:02:37 PM

WhoIsWillo: Sasha Baron Cohen.


I discovered watching Les Mis that I absolutely loathe SBC no matter how he's made up or who he's playing. No matter what he's doing, the backpfeifengesicht shines through.
 
2013-01-03 01:06:02 PM

error 303: Two hours of shaky closeups of peoples faces yelling at the camera just isn't good entertainment.


Les Mis is a good story, and I liked the actual movie version that came out years ago, but all the singing just gets in the way of plot and character development. Plus, I can't stand the choppy style of latter-day movie musicals, with lame enjambments, extended lines, odd rhyming schemes and no center to the songs. Older stuff, Roger & Hammerstein, Tin Pan Alley or even Gilbert & Sullivan I can work with.
 
2013-01-03 03:09:32 PM

WhoIsWillo: zarberg: Hollywood needs to make some good Sondheim movies. I would kill to see Into the Woods done right.

Hollywood version of Into the Woods? They're actually in pre-production for a version right now. This is my dream cast:

Baker - Neil Patrick Harris
Baker's Wife - Anne Hathaway
Cinderella - Amanda Seyfried
Jack - Josh Gad
Narriator / Old Man - Mickey Rooney
Witch - Meryl Streep
Wolf / Prince - Will Arnett

Did I miss any major roles?


Red Riding Hood. I knew some great child actresses, but they're too old now. Raquel Castro comes to mind, but I think she's actually a legal adult now.
 
2013-01-03 03:44:07 PM

zarberg: WhoIsWillo: zarberg: Hollywood needs to make some good Sondheim movies. I would kill to see Into the Woods done right.

Hollywood version of Into the Woods? They're actually in pre-production for a version right now. This is my dream cast:

Baker - Neil Patrick Harris
Baker's Wife - Anne Hathaway
Cinderella - Amanda Seyfried
Jack - Josh Gad
Narriator / Old Man - Mickey Rooney
Witch - Meryl Streep
Wolf / Prince - Will Arnett

Did I miss any major roles?

Red Riding Hood. I knew some great child actresses, but they're too old now. Raquel Castro comes to mind, but I think she's actually a legal adult now.


Hollywood would try to thrust some Disney pop-tart in that role. But you wouldn't really need a kid so much as maybe a teen that can pull off some sass.
 
2013-01-03 03:50:18 PM
You haven't really heard Les Mis until you've heard it in the original Klingon.
 
2013-01-03 05:11:23 PM
A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.
 
2013-01-03 05:19:20 PM

KatjaMouse: Hollywood would try to thrust some Disney pop-tart in that role. But you wouldn't really need a kid so much as maybe a teen that can pull off some sass.


Maybe Chloë Moretz? Can she sing?
 
2013-01-03 05:45:55 PM

dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.


The show was originally all written in French, with a debut in Paris and supposed to last only a few performances. What it was turned into shows the brilliance of Cameron Mackintosh.
 
2013-01-03 07:50:35 PM

dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.


Absolutely. Since the book was written in French, the movie should have been done in French. It should be sub-titled so non-French speakers can follow along.

Idiot.
 
2013-01-04 12:17:33 AM
Overall I enjoyed the film. Hathaway knocked it out of the park. The Marius guy was good, too. Crowe and Jackman were tolerable, but I was kind of disappointed that they weren't stellar.

Truth be told, I thought Liam Neeson and Geoffrey Rush made a KICK ASS Valjean and Javert in the other movie.
 
2013-01-04 09:06:46 AM

AeAe: dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.

Absolutely. Since the book was written in French, the movie should have been done in French. It should be sub-titled so non-French speakers can follow along.

Idiot.

Pardon

, but you're the idiot. The movie is set in France. The peasants have cockney accents. Is it so hard to put on a French accent? You know, as actors? Did anybody making the film think about this for a second?
 
2013-01-04 10:22:18 AM

teeny: Truth be told, I thought Liam Neeson and Geoffrey Rush made a KICK ASS Valjean and Javert in the other movie.


This.
 
2013-01-04 10:23:51 AM

Rocket To Russia: AeAe: dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.

Absolutely. Since the book was written in French, the movie should have been done in French. It should be sub-titled so non-French speakers can follow along.

Idiot.

Pardon, but you're the idiot. The movie is set in France. The peasants have cockney accents. Is it so hard to put on a French accent? You know, as actors? Did anybody making the film think about this for a second?


No. Nobody over the past 32 years, in 126 countries with hundreds of thousands of performances in nearly every language spoken on the planet has ever thought of that.
 
2013-01-04 01:16:56 PM

T.M.S.: Rocket To Russia: AeAe: dwrash: A movie that was supposed to be in Paris.. where the majority of the spoken lines were with thick English accents.

Kind of killed it for me.

Absolutely. Since the book was written in French, the movie should have been done in French. It should be sub-titled so non-French speakers can follow along.

Idiot.

Pardon, but you're the idiot. The movie is set in France. The peasants have cockney accents. Is it so hard to put on a French accent? You know, as actors? Did anybody making the film think about this for a second?

No. Nobody over the past 32 years, in 126 countries with hundreds of thousands of performances in nearly every language spoken on the planet has ever thought of that.


Apparently not. Thank "Bob" I'm here to do the thinking.
 
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