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(Politico)   Norquist last month: "Anyone who violates my pledge by voting for the fiscal cliff deal will have problems getting re-elected." Noquist last night: "Technically, no one violated my pledge by voting for the fiscal cliff deal"   (politico.com) divider line 80
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2013-01-02 09:21:06 AM
blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com

Sure, Grover, keep telling yourself that repeatedly...
 
2013-01-02 09:25:04 AM
George H. W. Bush: "The rigidity of those pledges is something I don't like. The circumstances change and you can't be wedded to some formula by Grover Norquist. It's -- who the hell is Grover Norquist, anyway?"
 
2013-01-02 09:30:37 AM
If I had his pudgy little face I don't think I'd bother with trying to save it.

So, expiration of a cut with a built-in time limit isn't a tax hike.  Like I've been saying for years now.
 
2013-01-02 09:32:17 AM
Nothing exemplifies the self-serving nature of the GOP more than them wanting to delay a vote to save
the country they profess to love just so they can keep their pledge to this toad.
 
2013-01-02 09:53:04 AM
Keep farking that chicken moving those goalposts, Grover.
 
2013-01-02 09:56:10 AM
How does this asshole wield so much damn power?
 
2013-01-02 09:58:47 AM
Aww...his cognitive dissonance is soo cute!!
 
2013-01-02 09:59:16 AM

tudorgurl: How does this asshole wield so much damn power?


He doesn't. He is a convenient excuse.
 
2013-01-02 09:59:57 AM
"So if you look closely, the tax cuts already expired, so they were really voting for tax cuts so technically the GOP are all still mongoloid ballgarglers whose strongest guiding principle is scrawlings on construction paper by the world's youngest neckbeard. Technically speaking."
 
2013-01-02 10:00:30 AM
Can someone please hit Grover Norquist in the head with something heavy?

/Disclaimer: I do not condone or recommend anyone assault Grover Norquist or hit him in the head with something heavy.
//It's okay if I think "Well, it'd be nice if it happened, at least," though, right?
 
2013-01-02 10:00:41 AM

tudorgurl: How does this asshole wield so much damn power?


Because Republicans let him control them.  It's easier to be unyielding dicks when you can say you're just somebody's puppet.
 
2013-01-02 10:01:30 AM

tudorgurl: How does this asshole wield so much damn power?


Personally, he has no actual power, even to his followers. His dangerously inflexible and simplistic thesis simply happens to overlap completely with the members of and powers behind the modern Republican Party.
 
2013-01-02 10:01:46 AM
I now believe that Republicans follow him because they find his patchy teenage boy beard sexy. There is no other conceivable reason to listen to what this guy says.
 
2013-01-02 10:02:39 AM

tudorgurl: How does this asshole wield so much damn power?


The pledge is signed in blood and Norquist is a Warlock. Violating the pledge means death.

/This is what Republicans actually believe.
 
2013-01-02 10:03:22 AM

tudorgurl: How does this asshole wield so much damn power?


The same way priests do in any religion.... by externalizing responsibility for actions and consequences. "Let go, let god" or "Let go, let god-damned pledge"... no difference, really.
 
2013-01-02 10:03:27 AM

Sock Ruh Tease: I now believe that Republicans follow him because they find his patchy teenage boy beard sexy. There is no other conceivable reason to listen to what this guy says.


It reminds them of Cheney's nuts.

You know, before the wheelchair.
 
2013-01-02 10:03:53 AM
I watched this guy talk on cable news recently. Holy hell, does he play Dungeons and Dragons in his spare time?
 
2013-01-02 10:05:46 AM
He is accurate in that, once January 1 came around, the increases were already in effect, so voting for the bill was a vote to reduce taxes. This is why the Republicans were so intransigent before the 1st, because at that time, the increases were not in effect, so technically voting for the bill was a vote for higher taxes.

Kinda figured it would work out this way.
 
2013-01-02 10:09:16 AM
So, I think what we're seeing here is that the vicious retribution from Grover so feared by House GOP members is really just a paper tiger.
 
2013-01-02 10:09:47 AM
I'm not sure Nordquist has ever held a real job, other than to act as a "community organizer" for a community of self interested billionaires. When the real power players pulling his strings saw the ramifications of a possible double dip recession on their bottomline, the puppet says anything they want him to say.
 
2013-01-02 10:10:17 AM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: He is accurate in that, once January 1 came around, the increases were already in effect, so voting for the bill was a vote to reduce taxes. This is why the Republicans were so intransigent before the 1st, because at that time, the increases were not in effect, so technically voting for the bill was a vote for higher taxes.

Kinda figured it would work out this way.


I understand this logic... but then, why did most House Republicans voted against the "tax cuts"?
 
2013-01-02 10:14:42 AM

guilt by association: I watched this guy talk on cable news recently. Holy hell, does he play Dungeons and Dragons in his spare time?


Yes, he plays a lawful evil cleric/illusionist. He was a Dungeon Master but his group quit because he only awards gold to the highest-level character.
 
2013-01-02 10:17:22 AM

hugram: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: He is accurate in that, once January 1 came around, the increases were already in effect, so voting for the bill was a vote to reduce taxes. This is why the Republicans were so intransigent before the 1st, because at that time, the increases were not in effect, so technically voting for the bill was a vote for higher taxes.

Kinda figured it would work out this way.

I understand this logic... but then, why did most House Republicans voted against the "tax cuts"?


Because Obama.
No really, they had to choose between voting for tax cuts, or voting for something that Barack wanted. That logic bomb blue screened their brains and they switched to the default option of 'no'.
 
2013-01-02 10:20:27 AM
This is nothing more than a last-ditch effort to keep himself relevant.
 
2013-01-02 10:23:39 AM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: He is accurate in that, once January 1 came around, the increases were already in effect, so voting for the bill was a vote to reduce taxes. This is why the Republicans were so intransigent before the 1st, because at that time, the increases were not in effect, so technically voting for the bill was a vote for higher taxes.

Kinda figured it would work out this way.


Me too but it's still stupid as all motherf--king hell.
 
2013-01-02 10:24:45 AM
rehtwogunraconteur.com

Look, assholes, I can stop the tide as well as Norquist can roll back taxes."
 
2013-01-02 10:27:51 AM
and also, testicles
 
2013-01-02 10:30:16 AM
i.qkme.me
 
2013-01-02 10:30:42 AM
hey Grover, Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?
 
2013-01-02 10:32:23 AM
Remember Grover came up with this pledge when he was just 12 or 14 years old, I forget which.

He considers himself to have been "in" politics since that age.
 
2013-01-02 10:32:34 AM
Grover Norquist is still relevant according to noted Grover Norquist expert, Grover Norquist.

/Grover Norquist

Sorry for the recycled post.
 
2013-01-02 10:33:27 AM

tudorgurl: How does this asshole wield so much damn power?


He is a simplistic figurehead for the simplistic teabagger coalition.

You know, because a global economy is equivalent to a household budget.
 
2013-01-02 10:33:40 AM

Spanky_McFarksalot: hey Grover, Is this just math that you do as a Republican to make yourself feel better?


I lol'd
 
2013-01-02 10:35:38 AM
So Norquist was against them before he was for them.
 
2013-01-02 10:35:48 AM
I said it before, I'll say it again. Grover doesn't have the juice to prevent the top rate from going up, and he knows it. If he fights against it and fails, he proves to everyone that he and his little middle-school pledge have become completely irrelevant. If he plays it off like the big, mean black guy forced them to do it even though they didn't want to so it doesn't really count, maybe the Republicans will hand him a few more table scraps before they banish him back to political obscurity. He really didn't have any other options.
 
2013-01-02 10:36:50 AM

guilt by association: I watched this guy talk on cable news recently. Holy hell, does he play Dungeons and Dragons in his spare time?


I played D&D and high school and we were way cooler then Grover.
 
2013-01-02 10:42:15 AM

tudorgurl: How does this asshole wield so much damn power?


And even dumber is how little money he's had to spend to do this. He's been able to massively influence the Republican party just by THREATENING to spend money.
 
2013-01-02 10:48:59 AM
Norquist logic:

Expiration of Bush tax cuts = tax hikes(unless it doesn't)
Expiration of the payroll tax holiday != tax hikes

/I'm not saying I'm in favor/opposed to either/parts of either.
 
2013-01-02 10:49:14 AM

Yakk: guilt by association: I watched this guy talk on cable news recently. Holy hell, does he play Dungeons and Dragons in his spare time?

I played D&D and high school and we were way cooler then Grover.


A raging case of herpes is cooler than Grover Nordquist.

It's going to be great to watch GOP members realize that The Crazy can only take you so far over the next four years.
 
2013-01-02 10:57:16 AM
so the expiration of the Bush tax cuts WERE going to be a tax hike? Make up your mind, people.
 
2013-01-02 10:57:26 AM
Wait, how did barely raising taxes and not cutting any spending help out our deficit?
 
2013-01-02 10:57:58 AM

Whistling Kitty Chaser: Norquist logic:

Expiration of Bush tax cuts = tax hikes(unless it doesn't)
Expiration of the payroll tax holiday != tax hikes

/I'm not saying I'm in favor/opposed to either/parts of either.


Norquist already admitted that payroll taxes "don't count" for some reason or another. Because the poors pay them, probably. I don't have a link on me, but when they floated ending the 2% payroll tax holiday back in...June?...Norquist was cheering that on.

Anyone who thinks Grover's jihad is about taxes is fooling themselves (and has been fooled by Foolver Foolquist) - it's about rich people/big business' taxes.

// Marx and Engels may have been on to something with that whole "class struggle" thing...
 
2013-01-02 10:59:03 AM

jayhawk88: Yakk: guilt by association: I watched this guy talk on cable news recently. Holy hell, does he play Dungeons and Dragons in his spare time?

I played D&D and high school and we were way cooler then Grover.

A raging case of herpes is cooler than Grover Nordquist.

It's going to be great to watch GOP members realize that The Crazy can only take you so far over the next four years.


The sad reality is the GOP will likely gain seats in the House in 2014, due to the usual low turnout in off year elections. Even sadder is they will claim that as a mandate, and be even more impossible to work with.

The only way that won't happen is if they again hold the country hostage over the debt ceiling and that pisses people off enough to hold onto that anger for another year and a half until the midterm elections. Or maybe if they start trying to legalize rape just before the election.
 
2013-01-02 11:01:48 AM

skullkrusher: so the expiration of the Bush tax cuts WERE going to be a tax hike? Make up your mind, people.


The instant they Republicans voted for a 10 year tax cut plan, they also voted for a TAX INCREASE, 10 years later.

So the Republicans and W voted for a future tax increase back in 2001. Oh, and the reason it was only 10 years, was because the accounting didn't add up. The CBO could always project LOWER deficits by assuming the tax cuts would expire.

Well, now they are permanent, and we'll have to get revenue from somewhere else. Someones got to pay for all this federal spending.
 
2013-01-02 11:08:04 AM
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2013-01-02 11:09:10 AM

Zasteva: jayhawk88: Yakk: guilt by association: I watched this guy talk on cable news recently. Holy hell, does he play Dungeons and Dragons in his spare time?

I played D&D and high school and we were way cooler then Grover.

A raging case of herpes is cooler than Grover Nordquist.

It's going to be great to watch GOP members realize that The Crazy can only take you so far over the next four years.

The sad reality is the GOP will likely gain seats in the House in 2014, due to the usual low turnout in off year elections. Even sadder is they will claim that as a mandate, and be even more impossible to work with.

The only way that won't happen is if they again hold the country hostage over the debt ceiling and that pisses people off enough to hold onto that anger for another year and a half until the midterm elections. Or maybe if they start trying to legalize rape just before the election.


Mentioning class is class warfare and hurts the precious feelings of the most holy "Job creators", peace be upon them.
 
2013-01-02 11:09:23 AM

skullkrusher: so the expiration of the Bush tax cuts WERE going to be a tax hike? Make up your mind, people.


I never considered it a tax hike.  Norquist is just less relevant and pathetic then ever IMHO.
 
2013-01-02 11:11:18 AM

johnnyrocket: skullkrusher: so the expiration of the Bush tax cuts WERE going to be a tax hike? Make up your mind, people.

The instant they Republicans voted for a 10 year tax cut plan, they also voted for a TAX INCREASE, 10 years later.

So the Republicans and W voted for a future tax increase back in 2001. Oh, and the reason it was only 10 years, was because the accounting didn't add up. The CBO could always project LOWER deficits by assuming the tax cuts would expire.

Well, now they are permanent, and we'll have to get revenue from somewhere else. Someones got to pay for all this federal spending.


what happened to "if a store is having a sale and then the sale ends, they didn't raise their prices"?
 
2013-01-02 11:16:04 AM

Whistling Kitty Chaser: Norquist logic:

Expiration of Bush tax cuts = tax hikes(unless it doesn't)
Expiration of the payroll tax holiday != tax hikes

/I'm not saying I'm in favor/opposed to either/parts of either.


But you see, the payroll tax holiday expiration doesn't hit rich people that hard. Anybody who is getting hit by it ain't paying Norquist's bills.

/Sometimes, I wish I could live my life over again with no soul. Maybe I would have been Grover Norquist.
 
2013-01-02 11:31:37 AM

The Third Man: Whistling Kitty Chaser: Norquist logic:

Expiration of Bush tax cuts = tax hikes(unless it doesn't)
Expiration of the payroll tax holiday != tax hikes

/I'm not saying I'm in favor/opposed to either/parts of either.

But you see, the payroll tax holiday expiration doesn't hit rich people that hard. Anybody who is getting hit by it ain't paying Norquist's bills.

/Sometimes, I wish I could live my life over again with no soul. Maybe I would have been Grover Norquist.


I'm not sure if that's something to aspire to.
 
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