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2013-01-02 08:15:01 AM
This isn't exactly a surprise - Apple's development pipeline is fairly long. They started working on the iPhone 5 around the time the iPhone 3GS was hitting the markets.
 
2013-01-02 08:22:45 AM

RexTalionis: This isn't exactly a surprise - Apple's development pipeline is fairly long. They started working on the iPhone 5 around the time the iPhone 3GS was hitting the markets.


Exactly. How is this news?
 
2013-01-02 08:34:12 AM

stratagos: RexTalionis: This isn't exactly a surprise - Apple's development pipeline is fairly long. They started working on the iPhone 5 around the time the iPhone 3GS was hitting the markets.

Exactly. How is this news?


It's not news...
 
2013-01-02 10:07:36 AM
And Malibu Stacy has a new hat!
 
2013-01-02 10:21:37 AM
And by testing, they mean "leave it sitting on a bar for someone else to take home, examine it, and publish details on the 'net."
 
2013-01-02 10:38:22 AM

Mugato: And Malibu Stacy has a new hat!


We're done here.
 
2013-01-02 10:51:52 AM

give me doughnuts: And by testing, they mean "leave it sitting on a bar for someone else to take home, examine it, and publish details on the 'net."


Tomorrow's headline: "Samsung announces initial development of Galaxy IV"
 
2013-01-02 11:46:06 AM

Theaetetus: give me doughnuts: And by testing, they mean "leave it sitting on a bar for someone else to take home, examine it, and publish details on the 'net."

Tomorrow's headline: "Samsung announces initial development of Galaxy IV"


Hey, I think that's coming in April, so I'm totally going to trade up from my iPhone 4S to it.

Hopefully, it'll have the flexible screen like the rumors say.
 
2013-01-02 12:04:58 PM
Next you'll be telling me that car manufacturers are already developing the 2015 and 2016 model year cars. There's only so much I can believe to be true in one morning.
 
2013-01-02 12:18:02 PM

stratagos: Exactly. How is this news?


The news is that it seems (from what I've read around the tubes) that there will not be an iPhone 5S
 
2013-01-02 12:18:17 PM
It feels like these links are paid for or sponsored in some way. Don't think I've seen the business insider tag, nor do I remember seeing so many articles from them, ever, let alone in just a day or two
 
2013-01-02 12:21:44 PM

the_sidewinder: stratagos: Exactly. How is this news?

The news is that it seems (from what I've read around the tubes) that there will not be an iPhone 5S


Yes, but considering the only difference between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 was a processor change, what is the potential difference between an iPhone 5S and iPhone 6? I mean, it's really just a naming issue, right? It doesn't tell you anything.

By the way, iPad 5 is coming out in April, supposedly.
 
2013-01-02 12:27:48 PM
Hopefully it will offer a larger (wider) screen.

Then watch the idiots scream about how their various attachments and cases don't work anymore and they have to buy new ones.
 
2013-01-02 12:27:59 PM

RexTalionis: Yes, but considering the only difference between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 was a processor change, what is the potential difference between an iPhone 5S and iPhone 6? I mean, it's really just a naming issue, right? It doesn't tell you anything.


Yeah, their naming scheme is pretty haphazard.

The iPad technically didn't have an iPad 3 or 4, it was "iPad with Retina display" and "New iPad with Retina Display." Everybody just calls them 3 and 4, so beats hell out of me why they didn't go with that.

As for the phones, it looks a little more consistent; they seem to go with "iPhone X" when it's a change in the form factor and "iPhone XS" when it's just an updating of the internals. The 3GS is pretty much an internal update of the 3G. The 4S the same thing for the 4. Unless they're seriously messing with the form factor of the 5 (doubt it), I'm still expecting it to be called the 5S... what something is called at development state means bugger-all. Hell, Windows 2000 was actually Windows NT 5.0 if you got into what the kernel called itself. XP was NT 5.1, with Vista as 6.0, 7 was 6.1, 8 is 6.2. So product naming just has gotten bizarre.
 
2013-01-02 12:28:08 PM
In other news, the sky is blue, the sun shines, etc....
 
2013-01-02 12:35:45 PM
Derp derp Microsoft derp
/Somebody had to
 
2013-01-02 12:42:43 PM

akula: RexTalionis: Yes, but considering the only difference between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 was a processor change, what is the potential difference between an iPhone 5S and iPhone 6? I mean, it's really just a naming issue, right? It doesn't tell you anything.

Yeah, their naming scheme is pretty haphazard.

The iPad technically didn't have an iPad 3 or 4, it was "iPad with Retina display" and "New iPad with Retina Display." Everybody just calls them 3 and 4, so beats hell out of me why they didn't go with that.

As for the phones, it looks a little more consistent; they seem to go with "iPhone X" when it's a change in the form factor and "iPhone XS" when it's just an updating of the internals. The 3GS is pretty much an internal update of the 3G. The 4S the same thing for the 4. Unless they're seriously messing with the form factor of the 5 (doubt it), I'm still expecting it to be called the 5S... what something is called at development state means bugger-all. Hell, Windows 2000 was actually Windows NT 5.0 if you got into what the kernel called itself. XP was NT 5.1, with Vista as 6.0, 7 was 6.1, 8 is 6.2. So product naming just has gotten bizarre.


It is the customers fault. The average consumer only sees a number and has been trained to associate a higher number with a better product. This is why firefox went from version 3.something to at whatever arbitrary number we are in such a short time period. People saw IE7 and FF3 and simply judged the browser by its number.

/Consumers are also why books have fancy covers
 
2013-01-02 12:45:19 PM

akula: The iPad technically didn't have an iPad 3 or 4, it was "iPad with Retina display" and "New iPad with Retina Display." Everybody just calls them 3 and 4, so beats hell out of me why they didn't go with that.


I thought it was the "New iPad with Retina Display" and the old "New iPad with Retina Display." I think everyone just refers to them by their generation numbers anyway, at this point. Their names are just too unwieldy to use in casual conversation.
 
2013-01-02 12:48:18 PM

DerAppie:
It is the customers fault. The average consumer only sees a number and has been trained to associate a higher number with a better product. This is why firefox went from version 3.something to at whatever arbitrary number we are in such a short time period. People saw IE7 and FF3 and simply judged the browser by its number.

/Consumers are also why books have fancy covers


See also: XBox 360 vs XBox 2

Microsoft didn't want people to see an "XBox 2" sitting next to a "Playstation 3" and assume the XBox was a generation behind.
 
2013-01-02 12:51:08 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Hopefully it will offer a larger (wider) screen.

Then watch the idiots scream about how their various attachments and cases don't work anymore and they have to buy new ones.


I hope not. The width of the iPhones are why I, and many people, have them. I'd much rather have something that fits easily and comfortably in my hand when in a case than some of the monstrosities from other companies. It's a farking phone, I want it to fit in my pockets and my hand comfortably and securely, unlike the oversized galaxy note series.

I've tested the note 2 for work, and the consensus is it is too big for a phone and undersized for a useful tablet. It feels awkward when talking on it, and many people reported cramped hands when trying to use them because of how they have to hold the things.
 
2013-01-02 12:55:04 PM

RexTalionis: the_sidewinder: stratagos: Exactly. How is this news?

The news is that it seems (from what I've read around the tubes) that there will not be an iPhone 5S

Yes, but considering the only difference between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 was a processor change, what is the potential difference between an iPhone 5S and iPhone 6? I mean, it's really just a naming issue, right? It doesn't tell you anything.

By the way, iPad 5 is coming out in April, supposedly.


The naming scheme that Apple uses suggests that a move from the iPhone 5 to 6 might bring some sort of physical design change. In the past, there has always been a design change when moving from one number to the next, with the 'S' version just bringing an overall general improvement on performance. If this rumour is true (that they are skipping the '5S') then something something

/don't really care, but speculation is fun
 
2013-01-02 12:55:09 PM

msupf: It feels like these links are paid for or sponsored in some way. Don't think I've seen the business insider tag, nor do I remember seeing so many articles from them, ever, let alone in just a day or two


Agreed. Soon we will see an AAA and Apple tags
 
2013-01-02 01:14:26 PM

clancifer: stratagos: RexTalionis: This isn't exactly a surprise - Apple's development pipeline is fairly long. They started working on the iPhone 5 around the time the iPhone 3GS was hitting the markets.

Exactly. How is this news?

It's not news...


Its fark.
 
2013-01-02 01:17:14 PM

RexTalionis: Yes, but considering the only difference between the iPad 3 and iPad 4 was a processor change, what is the potential difference between an iPhone 5S and iPhone 6? I mean, it's really just a naming issue, right? It doesn't tell you anything.


Here is Samsungs naming convention:

www.intomobile.com

I'll take Apples naming convention over Samsung's or Microsofts any day.
 
2013-01-02 01:22:24 PM
I got off the upgrade train a while back. I'm not upgrading anything until it stops functioning or is so obsolete almost nothing runs on it.
 
2013-01-02 01:26:30 PM

StRalphTheLiar: DerAppie:
It is the customers fault. The average consumer only sees a number and has been trained to associate a higher number with a better product. This is why firefox went from version 3.something to at whatever arbitrary number we are in such a short time period. People saw IE7 and FF3 and simply judged the browser by its number.

/Consumers are also why books have fancy covers

See also: XBox 360 vs XBox 2

Microsoft didn't want people to see an "XBox 2" sitting next to a "Playstation 3" and assume the XBox was a generation behind.


It was also amusing when Apple went to the iPhone 3G. It wasn't the 3rd generation iPhone, it was just 3G capable. So Apple had to consider the 3GS the 3rd iPhone in order to arrive at the iPhone 4. Then people thought "4th iPhone" = "4G data network" (didn't help that with the iOS 6 update the 4GS showed "4g" on some networks, when it was still not true 4G LTE).

In other news, people be stupid and easily confused by marketing.
 
2013-01-02 01:29:29 PM
www.wearysloth.com

Alan Bradley: Excuse me
Richard Mackey: Yes... Alan
Alan Bradley: Given the prices we charge to students and schools, what sort of improvements have been made in Flynn... I mean, um, ENCOM OS-12?
Richard Mackey: This year we put a "12" on the box.
 
2013-01-02 01:34:19 PM
In other news, Apple tests products

I was gonna say something, but I am lost.

/used apple map.

//Yeah, yeah, I know, still took the shot just because I can
 
2013-01-02 01:36:26 PM

MayoSlather: I got off the upgrade train a while back. I'm not upgrading anything until it stops functioning or is so obsolete almost nothing runs on it.


I kept my 3GS for 3.5 years. The battery had faded a bit but was still usable. I upgraded to the iPhone 5 more out of a desire for something new. I hope this will last me until 2015. I'm with you. To hell with upgrading every two years.

Add my name to the list of people who prefer the width of iPhones. I tried the Samsung Galaxy Nexus briefly and found the width annoying. iPhones I can easily hold in one hand and not fear dropping it, leaving one hand free for a beer.
 
2013-01-02 01:39:31 PM

give me doughnuts: And by testing, they mean "leave it sitting on a bar for someone else to take home, examine it, and publish details on the 'net."


They've done this...what, at least twice now?
 
2013-01-02 01:40:06 PM
Why doesn't Apple just switch to the Madden Method?

Apple iPhone 2012
Apple iPhone 2013
Apple iPhone 2014

etc.

Both release something new at least once a year that is just slightly updated and their target market eat it up like banana pudding with vanilla wafers.
 
2013-01-02 01:48:26 PM

MayoSlather: I got off the upgrade train a while back. I'm not upgrading anything until it stops functioning or is so obsolete almost nothing runs on it.


agreed, still running my 2nd gen ipod with the original battery. 2005 G5 only upgraded my laptop since I use lightroom and photoshop a lot
 
2013-01-02 01:53:44 PM

msupf: The width of the iPhones are why I, and many people, have them. I'd much rather have something that fits easily and comfortably in my hand when in a case


This is a fair point, but It's actually the reason I can't use an iphone comfortably; it's too small for my larger-than-average hands. Apple's earlier one-size-fits-all approach actually lost me as a potential customer when entering the smartphone market as a consumer. My galaxy nexus feels perfect for me.
 
2013-01-02 01:59:29 PM

MayoSlather: I got off the upgrade train a while back. I'm not upgrading anything until it stops functioning or is so obsolete almost nothing runs on it.


The problem with doing this with phones is that you're paying the same monthly subscription whether the phone is still being subsidized or whether it's paid off. It's like making car payments long after you bought the car. You might as well get a new car since you're making payments either way.

Unless you buy you phones at full price and go the prepaid route, I suppose.
 
2013-01-02 02:02:28 PM

clancifer: stratagos: RexTalionis: This isn't exactly a surprise - Apple's development pipeline is fairly long. They started working on the iPhone 5 around the time the iPhone 3GS was hitting the markets.

Exactly. How is this news?

It's not news...


OHHHH SNAP
 
2013-01-02 02:23:44 PM

msupf:
I hope not. The width of the iPhones are why I, and many people, have them. I'd much rather have something that fits easily and comfortably in my hand when in a case than some of the monstrosities from other companies. It's a farking phone, I want it to fit in my pockets and my hand comfortably and securely, unlike the oversized galaxy note series.

I've tested the note 2 for work, and the consensus is it is too big for a phone and undersized for a useful tablet. It feels awkward when talking on it, and many people reported cramped hands when trying to use them because of how they have to hold the things.


I'm sorry for your carny-sized hands. Have had the Note II since the release date. No problems holding or fitting it in my pockets. Sure, it might be a little hard to thumb the top left corner when I'm one-handing it but the extra real estate and the beast of a processor make this thing my favorite gadget in many many moons.

/Hoping that the new Android release of XBMC gets polished up soon.
//AllShare Cast FTW!
 
2013-01-02 02:24:58 PM

msupf: I've tested the note 2 for work, and the consensus is it is too big for a phone and undersized for a useful tablet. It feels awkward when talking on it, and many people reported cramped hands when trying to use them because of how they have to hold the things.


For females that makes sense. However for us guys it's a great size. Phones with that 3.5-ish inch screens are hard to type on, hard to use, etc. My wife just went from the iPhone to the Galaxy s3, and just like you doesn't like it at all. It's way too big for her, and she'll be hopping back to the iphone next upgrade cycle.
Me on the other hand will be considering nothing under 4.5 inches. I have an LG Quantum right now and I just can't do this piddly little screen anymore. My mitts need something easier to use.
 
2013-01-02 02:47:26 PM

sure haven't: msupf: I've tested the note 2 for work, and the consensus is it is too big for a phone and undersized for a useful tablet. It feels awkward when talking on it, and many people reported cramped hands when trying to use them because of how they have to hold the things.

For females that makes sense. However for us guys it's a great size. Phones with that 3.5-ish inch screens are hard to type on, hard to use, etc. My wife just went from the iPhone to the Galaxy s3, and just like you doesn't like it at all. It's way too big for her, and she'll be hopping back to the iphone next upgrade cycle.
Me on the other hand will be considering nothing under 4.5 inches. I have an LG Quantum right now and I just can't do this piddly little screen anymore. My mitts need something easier to use.


Size queen
 
2013-01-02 02:50:03 PM

sure haven't: msupf: I've tested the note 2 for work, and the consensus is it is too big for a phone and undersized for a useful tablet. It feels awkward when talking on it, and many people reported cramped hands when trying to use them because of how they have to hold the things.

For females that makes sense. However for us guys it's a great size. Phones with that 3.5-ish inch screens are hard to type on, hard to use, etc. My wife just went from the iPhone to the Galaxy s3, and just like you doesn't like it at all. It's way too big for her, and she'll be hopping back to the iphone next upgrade cycle.
Me on the other hand will be considering nothing under 4.5 inches. I have an LG Quantum right now and I just can't do this piddly little screen anymore. My mitts need something easier to use.


Speak for yourself. I think the Note 2 is stupidly big. And I'm not exactly a small guy, either.
 
2013-01-02 02:51:43 PM

sure haven't: msupf: I've tested the note 2 for work, and the consensus is it is too big for a phone and undersized for a useful tablet. It feels awkward when talking on it, and many people reported cramped hands when trying to use them because of how they have to hold the things.

For females that makes sense. However for us guys it's a great size. Phones with that 3.5-ish inch screens are hard to type on, hard to use, etc. My wife just went from the iPhone to the Galaxy s3, and just like you doesn't like it at all. It's way too big for her, and she'll be hopping back to the iphone next upgrade cycle.
Me on the other hand will be considering nothing under 4.5 inches. I have an LG Quantum right now and I just can't do this piddly little screen anymore. My mitts need something easier to use.


I agree... I picked up the Note 2 over the holidays and Ill never go back to a smaller screen. It took maybe 3-4 hours to get used to the size and I actually do find myself using it in place of my tablet. I LOVE this phone!
 
2013-01-02 03:46:58 PM

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Hopefully it will offer a larger (wider) screen.

Then watch the idiots scream about how their various attachments and cases don't work anymore and they have to buy new ones.


bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com

Of course apple products go through extensive testing. They have to make sure of exactly what they're leaving out of the current model; otherwise how would they know what to put in the new one they're going to sell you six months later?
 
2013-01-02 04:03:59 PM

akula: Yeah, their naming scheme is pretty haphazard.

The iPad technically didn't have an iPad 3 or 4, it was "iPad with Retina display" and "New iPad with Retina Display." Everybody just calls them 3 and 4, so beats hell out of me why they didn't go with that.


I had to buy an iPad 2 for my mother over Christmas because it still uses the old charger and the cables would be compatible with their old iPods and such.

Since I hate Apple and the fact it was the 3rd iPad I bought over the last month, I wanted to be a PITA to the kid behind the desk. I asked if they sold the "New iPad" (aka iPad 3). So he says, yeah sure and hands me an "iPad with Retina Display" (aka iPad 4).

I said, "No, the 'new iPad', the one that came after iPad 2".

He says, "oh, we don't sell that anymore".

Me: "Yeah, your naming convention is pretty stupid, huh?"

Him: "Yeah, I guess so"
 
2013-01-02 05:03:16 PM

JoeyJoJo: akula: Yeah, their naming scheme is pretty haphazard.

The iPad technically didn't have an iPad 3 or 4, it was "iPad with Retina display" and "New iPad with Retina Display." Everybody just calls them 3 and 4, so beats hell out of me why they didn't go with that.

I had to buy an iPad 2 for my mother over Christmas because it still uses the old charger and the cables would be compatible with their old iPods and such.

Since I hate Apple and the fact it was the 3rd iPad I bought over the last month, I wanted to be a PITA to the kid behind the desk. I asked if they sold the "New iPad" (aka iPad 3). So he says, yeah sure and hands me an "iPad with Retina Display" (aka iPad 4).

I said, "No, the 'new iPad', the one that came after iPad 2".

He says, "oh, we don't sell that anymore".

Me: "Yeah, your naming convention is pretty stupid, huh?"

Him: "Yeah, I guess so"


Way to stick it to the man by hassling a wage-level employee. You sure showed them.
 
2013-01-02 05:21:01 PM

ErikShocker: Way to stick it to the man by hassling a wage-level employee. You sure showed them.


I'm sure you'll get over it.

And when was the last time you got an Apple employee/fanboi to admit Apple did anything wrong?

Oh, since I have one here, I guess I can ask you then.
 
2013-01-02 06:11:43 PM

sure haven't: msupf: I've tested the note 2 for work, and the consensus is it is too big for a phone and undersized for a useful tablet. It feels awkward when talking on it, and many people reported cramped hands when trying to use them because of how they have to hold the things.

For females that makes sense. However for us guys it's a great size. Phones with that 3.5-ish inch screens are hard to type on, hard to use, etc. My wife just went from the iPhone to the Galaxy s3, and just like you doesn't like it at all. It's way too big for her, and she'll be hopping back to the iphone next upgrade cycle.
Me on the other hand will be considering nothing under 4.5 inches. I have an LG Quantum right now and I just can't do this piddly little screen anymore. My mitts need something easier to use.


6'6" with a hand span of 11"

I still hate holding the note 2 when using it as a phone. Its not just awkward in the hand, but up against the side of the head/face. It just doesnt settle in the natural curve of a hand as easily as other phones. And as a tablet, its way undersized compared to even samsung's smaller offering.

Biggest complaints when we tested them, among a wide range of people of various sizes, was the hand feel and bulkiness when trying to find somewhere to carry it. Dress pants wouldn't hold it easily, suit jacket pockets sometimes wouldn't hold it depending on style, or the wearer already had more important items in said pocket.
 
2013-01-02 07:51:53 PM

JoeyJoJo: Oh, since I have one here, I guess I can ask you then.


Or you can ask me:

-constant release treadmill and forced obsolescence
-red/yellow/green window controls (that keep getting smaller)
-"natural scrolling"
-the entirety of the SDK naming scheme
-choosing objective C as the primary development language for their products
-flakiness regarding server-level products throughout the years
-making everything a pain in the ass for integrators and developers
-design treadmill forces you to redesign anything that runs on Apple hardware so it's not out-of-date looking in 18 months
-rearranging development tool directories
-changing the size of the phone without telling anyone
-app store nazis
-not including features because they "suck" and then making a competitive feature that's not actually better (firewire, appletalk, thunderbolt, etc)

The list goes on and on. I used to work for Apple a long time ago, and they have been pissing off their users like it was a hobby for decades.
 
2013-01-02 09:42:08 PM
Forced obsolescence? Are you going to tell me my 4 doesn't make phone calls now?
 
2013-01-03 12:23:01 AM

mccallcl: The list goes on and on. I used to work for Apple a long time ago, and they have been pissing off their users like it was a hobby for decades.


Thanks for the input from a developer's point of view. I stand by my statement as it doesn't like you're a fanboi and you're no longer an employee.

I took my wife's old Macbook and upgraded the HD, added RAM, replaced the heat sink and replaced the optical drive. I wanted to use Snow Leopard just so I could learn something new. I lasted 3 days and ended up installing Bootcamp and Win7 on it. Still works fine now. There's no way I could upgrade her new Macbook as Apple has made it nearly impossible.

theurge14: Forced obsolescence? Are you going to tell me my 4 doesn't make phone calls now?


What about my cousin who can't sync her iPhone 5 to her Macbook because the iPhone 5 requires iTunes 11, but iTunes 11 won't install on Leopard as you need Snow Leopard or newer. Sounds like forced obsolescence to me.
 
2013-01-03 07:00:19 AM

msupf: 6'6" with a hand span of 11"

I still hate holding the note 2 when using it as a phone. Its not just awkward in the hand, but up against the side of the head/face. It just doesnt settle in the natural curve of a hand as easily as other phones. And as a tablet, its way undersized compared to even samsung's smaller offering.


That's funny... I'm 5'8" with stubby fingers, and I use a Gtab 7.0+ as my primary phone. The great thing about it is that it's so big, if I see someone in a bar I don't want to talk to, I just turn 90 degrees, and it hides my face entirely!

/I actually use a headset, but the tab works just fine held up to my face
 
2013-01-03 08:53:39 AM

JoeyJoJo: theurge14: Forced obsolescence? Are you going to tell me my 4 doesn't make phone calls now?

What about my cousin who can't sync her iPhone 5 to her Macbook because the iPhone 5 requires iTunes 11, but iTunes 11 won't install on Leopard as you need Snow Leopard or newer. Sounds like forced obsolescence to me.


Sounds like your cousin has laptop problems not phone problems. Leopard is 6 years old. Snow Leopard was $29 when it came out 4 years ago.
 
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