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2013-01-01 06:35:54 PM  

eiger: Mrtraveler01: Zombalupagus: [i.imm.io image 600x800]

I hope you posted that ironically. Or else I'd have to say who ever made that is a farking idiot because:

1. It never considers the option that people in that much debt get a second job to bring in more revenue into that household.

2. The debt ceiling doesn't give us permission to spend more, it gives us permission to pay off the debt we already spent. Not raising the debt ceiling is the same as defaulting on our debt obligations. Or to use a retarded analogy like you did, it would be like ordering and eating dinner and dashing out on the check.

So the only thing shiatty is whoever made that steaming pile of crap thinking that they said something that was remotely intelligent.

It also ignores the fact that the US government can print money. I'm not aware of any household that can (legally) do that.


which is like discovering your house is full to the top with shiat and deciding the best solution is putting a garden hose in a window and pumping in water
 
2013-01-01 06:36:16 PM  

Sum Dum Gai: The "fiscal cliff" deal that was designed to save money

That's about as far as I could take the article seriously. That shows a total lack of even a rudimentary understanding of what the "fiscal cliff" even is, or what problem the legislation was aiming to solve.


It's from the Moonie Times. That is all you need to know.
 
2013-01-01 06:36:55 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Unknown_Poltroon: eiger: Zombalupagus: [i.imm.io image 600x800]

Oh, a house budget analogy, the bastion of the economically illiterate.

Hey, this one uses poop to explain the accounting.

How else would simpletons like the guy who made that would be able to understand complex economic matters.


removing the zeros does help put it in perspective.
You guys sure are pissed about people pointing out that we spend a farkload more than we generate in revenue
 
2013-01-01 06:38:31 PM  

Mrtraveler01: Zombalupagus: [i.imm.io image 600x800]

I hope you posted that ironically. Or else I'd have to say who ever made that is a farking idiot because:

1. It never considers the option that people in that much debt get a second job to bring in more revenue into that household.

2. The debt ceiling doesn't give us permission to spend more, it gives us permission to pay off the debt we already spent. Not raising the debt ceiling is the same as defaulting on our debt obligations. Or to use a retarded analogy like you did, it would be like ordering and eating dinner and dashing out on the check.

So the only thing shiatty is whoever made that steaming pile of crap thinking that they said something that was remotely intelligent.


You missed one more reason it is idiotic, whoever wrote it dropped an extra zero from the budget cuts, it is actually $385 if you drop eight zeros.
 
2013-01-01 06:38:32 PM  

Lionel Mandrake: NewportBarGuy: They will hold the country hostage for several more months. This is not the end. This is not the beginning of the end.

Is it at least the end of the beginning?


It is the beginning of the end of the beginning.
 
2013-01-01 06:38:34 PM  

sprawl15: eiger: Mrtraveler01: Zombalupagus: [i.imm.io image 600x800]

I hope you posted that ironically. Or else I'd have to say who ever made that is a farking idiot because:

1. It never considers the option that people in that much debt get a second job to bring in more revenue into that household.

2. The debt ceiling doesn't give us permission to spend more, it gives us permission to pay off the debt we already spent. Not raising the debt ceiling is the same as defaulting on our debt obligations. Or to use a retarded analogy like you did, it would be like ordering and eating dinner and dashing out on the check.

So the only thing shiatty is whoever made that steaming pile of crap thinking that they said something that was remotely intelligent.

It also ignores the fact that the US government can print money. I'm not aware of any household that can (legally) do that.

which is like discovering your house is full to the top with shiat and deciding the best solution is putting a garden hose in a window and pumping in water


Please. It's far more complicated than that. Still, obviously printing money to pay the debt is far from the best solution, but it does show how the nation's economy and a household are completely different beasts.
 
2013-01-01 06:39:53 PM  
You mean the one that isn't going to pass the House anyway?
 
2013-01-01 06:39:54 PM  

evil saltine: Mrtraveler01: Dusk-You-n-Me: That's because no one really cares about the deficit.

/Bears repeating

Whatever happened to "jobs, jobs, jobs"?
Now it's "deficit, deficit, deficit". Isn't the former more important?



That was before we tied a completely artificial crisis to the normally symbolic debt ceiling support, in order to get the Republicans' wing-nut contingent to behave rationally for ten damn minutes.
 
2013-01-01 06:40:05 PM  

Zombalupagus: [i.imm.io image 600x800]




Unfortunately, there are ppl who actually believe that this silly little simpleton picture is relevant to the actual economics of the situation. For example, how many households owe their mortgage primarily to their own family members? How many families can, at will, increase their income with the stroke of a pen?
 
2013-01-01 06:40:16 PM  
Anyone who seriously compares national economics to a household budget needs to be taken out back and beaten half to death before being enrolled in a basic Economics 101 class.
 
2013-01-01 06:40:27 PM  

eiger: sprawl15: eiger: Mrtraveler01: Zombalupagus: [i.imm.io image 600x800]

I hope you posted that ironically. Or else I'd have to say who ever made that is a farking idiot because:

1. It never considers the option that people in that much debt get a second job to bring in more revenue into that household.

2. The debt ceiling doesn't give us permission to spend more, it gives us permission to pay off the debt we already spent. Not raising the debt ceiling is the same as defaulting on our debt obligations. Or to use a retarded analogy like you did, it would be like ordering and eating dinner and dashing out on the check.

So the only thing shiatty is whoever made that steaming pile of crap thinking that they said something that was remotely intelligent.

It also ignores the fact that the US government can print money. I'm not aware of any household that can (legally) do that.

which is like discovering your house is full to the top with shiat and deciding the best solution is putting a garden hose in a window and pumping in water

Please. It's far more complicated than that. Still, obviously printing money to pay the debt is far from the best solution, but it does show how the nation's economy and a household are completely different beasts.


of coarse - an economy is not a literal object and cannot fill with fecal matter

but the debt certainly puts the anal in that analogy
 
2013-01-01 06:41:30 PM  

Zombalupagus: [i.imm.io image 600x800]


except that's not it at all. The biggest problem is people keep trying to put it in "household budget" terms and you can't.
 
2013-01-01 06:41:54 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: IamKaiserSoze!!!: OK, the senate just passed a bill that will increase annual taxes by $65 billion against an annual deficit of over $1 trillion.

There's your great progressive victory. Now where's the rest come from?

I hope to hell the House vetoes or significantly amends that piece of crap and gets to work on a comprehensive solution. Better yet I would like to see the House pass a Simpson-Bowles type bill and send it back to the Senate. This shiat has to stop.

Hahahahaha, you're so cute.


thank you.

and you're so young and naïve, but eventually you'll understand.
 
2013-01-01 06:43:22 PM  

evil saltine: Mrtraveler01: Dusk-You-n-Me:

That's because no one really cares about the deficit.

/Bears repeating

Whatever happened to "jobs, jobs, jobs"?
Now it's "deficit, deficit, deficit". Isn't the former more important?


You're talking about idiots who think that we can cut taxes so much that it will both so much economic growth that it will balance the budget all by itself.

It's hard to deal with idiots like that.
 
2013-01-01 06:45:15 PM  
See, the problem is:

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Conservatives watch shows like this:
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Any questions?
 
2013-01-01 06:46:24 PM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: cameroncrazy1984: IamKaiserSoze!!!: OK, the senate just passed a bill that will increase annual taxes by $65 billion against an annual deficit of over $1 trillion.

There's your great progressive victory. Now where's the rest come from?

I hope to hell the House vetoes or significantly amends that piece of crap and gets to work on a comprehensive solution. Better yet I would like to see the House pass a Simpson-Bowles type bill and send it back to the Senate. This shiat has to stop.

Hahahahaha, you're so cute.

thank you.

and you're so young and naïve, but eventually you'll understand.


I understand alright. I understand that nothing will get done as long as the Tea Party controls the House.
 
2013-01-01 06:47:32 PM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: cameroncrazy1984: IamKaiserSoze!!!: OK, the senate just passed a bill that will increase annual taxes by $65 billion against an annual deficit of over $1 trillion.

There's your great progressive victory. Now where's the rest come from?

I hope to hell the House vetoes or significantly amends that piece of crap and gets to work on a comprehensive solution. Better yet I would like to see the House pass a Simpson-Bowles type bill and send it back to the Senate. This shiat has to stop.

Hahahahaha, you're so cute.

thank you.

and you're so young and naïve, but eventually you'll understand.


If someone older than you says that to you do you admit you are wrong and change your mind?
 
2013-01-01 06:49:19 PM  

PsiChick: kxs401: How did the greatest generation raise the greediest, most sociopathic generation. Sacrifice for the common good? I won't even be mildly inconvenienced for the common good!

Which generations? Because with one, I agree.


The "Greatest Generation" had experienced the Great Depression and WWII with its rationing and other privations, and as a result went above and beyond in their desire to leave a better world for their children. They wanted to make sure that their kids never had to go through the privations that they had.

The post-WWII economic prosperity of the 1950s (made possible largely by the fact that most of our competition had been bombed back into the Medieval era, and the Marshall Plan helped them get out but also expanded our own markets ― oh, yeah, and a 91% Top Marginal Tax Rate also helped the Middle Class participate in that prosperity) enabled them to fulfill that admirable-on-the-face-of-it goal more than any generation prior to them.

And then, into this situation, along came Dr. Benjamin Spock.

Result: a generation of spoiled brats (I include myself in that judgment) who for the most part never had to struggle to earn what they have.
 
2013-01-01 06:51:00 PM  

skullkrusher: GAT_00: unlikely: They took the "kick it down the road" option, didn't they.

Partially.  We'll have to do this again in two months in this deal, but it still raised some taxes.

hehe I do so love how raising taxes is a worthy end unto itself.


We're facing medium term financial apocalypse if we don't raise taxes from the lowest levels in living memory. I don't think anybody likes raising taxes, but some of us recognize the need to raise them in order to prevent disaster.
 
2013-01-01 06:52:03 PM  
I like how tax cuts for poor people are "Spending" but they are not when it's for rich people.
 
2013-01-01 06:52:22 PM  

erik-k: skullkrusher: GAT_00: unlikely: They took the "kick it down the road" option, didn't they.

Partially.  We'll have to do this again in two months in this deal, but it still raised some taxes.

hehe I do so love how raising taxes is a worthy end unto itself.

We're facing medium term financial apocalypse if we don't raise taxes from the lowest levels in living memory. I don't think anybody likes raising taxes, but some of us recognize the need to raise them in order to prevent disaster.


which isn't raising taxes as an end unto itself.
 
2013-01-01 06:54:58 PM  
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2013-01-01 06:55:18 PM  

COMALite J: PsiChick: kxs401: How did the greatest generation raise the greediest, most sociopathic generation. Sacrifice for the common good? I won't even be mildly inconvenienced for the common good!

Which generations? Because with one, I agree.

The "Greatest Generation" had experienced the Great Depression and WWII with its rationing and other privations, and as a result went above and beyond in their desire to leave a better world for their children. They wanted to make sure that their kids never had to go through the privations that they had.

The post-WWII economic prosperity of the 1950s (made possible largely by the fact that most of our competition had been bombed back into the Medieval era, and the Marshall Plan helped them get out but also expanded our own markets ― oh, yeah, and a 91% Top Marginal Tax Rate also helped the Middle Class participate in that prosperity) enabled them to fulfill that admirable-on-the-face-of-it goal more than any generation prior to them.

And then, into this situation, along came Dr. Benjamin Spock.

Result: a generation of spoiled brats (I include myself in that judgment) who for the most part never had to struggle to earn what they have.


Then I am 100% behind you.

/Reason I was asking: Assholes often claim the ME generation is 'spoiled' for wanting things like, say, a decent tax rate and an end to corporations owning the damn country. Which makes me usually feel like shooting people.
//Though I wouldn't blame the 'spoil your kids' mentality too much, you're allowed to give your kids a good life. You just have to actually be a parent and teach your kids about morality, how to appreciate earning things, stuff like that. America doesn't really have a good parenting tradition.
 
2013-01-01 06:55:44 PM  

skullkrusher: GAT_00: unlikely: They took the "kick it down the road" option, didn't they.

Partially.  We'll have to do this again in two months in this deal, but it still raised some taxes.

hehe I do so love how raising taxes is a worthy end unto itself.


The deficit is how big?  Yeah, raising taxes is a worthy end into itself.  You would think so too if you actually cared about the debt or the deficit.
 
2013-01-01 06:56:14 PM  

skullkrusher: removing the zeros does help put it in perspective.
You guys sure are pissed about people pointing out that we spend a farkload more than we generate in revenue


No, it's just that comparing the government to a household budget is pants-on-head retarded.
 
2013-01-01 06:57:00 PM  

GAT_00: skullkrusher: GAT_00: unlikely: They took the "kick it down the road" option, didn't they.

Partially.  We'll have to do this again in two months in this deal, but it still raised some taxes.

hehe I do so love how raising taxes is a worthy end unto itself.

The deficit is how big?  Yeah, raising taxes is a worthy end into itself.  You would think so too if you actually cared about the debt or the deficit.


raising taxes to fix the deficit isn't raising taxes as an end unto itself. I've seen you post. We could be running a surplus and you'd want taxes raised on certain individuals.
 
2013-01-01 06:57:09 PM  

COMALite J: Result: a generation of spoiled brats (I include myself in that judgment) who for the most part never had to struggle to earn what they have.

Speak for yourself, but as a generalization yes.
And it's only gotten worse.
 
2013-01-01 06:57:30 PM  

Infernalist: Anyone who seriously compares national economics to a household budget needs to be taken out back and beaten half to death before being enrolled in a basic Economics 101 class.


They're the same people who think that the ability to ruthlessly undercut competition, exploit your employees and cheat your customers are precisely the qualities you would want in a president of the United States.
 
2013-01-01 06:58:11 PM  

Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: removing the zeros does help put it in perspective.
You guys sure are pissed about people pointing out that we spend a farkload more than we generate in revenue

No, it's just that comparing the government to a household budget is pants-on-head retarded.


it's not a very good analogy for the reasons people have stated but it removing the zeros and expressing it in that way does give a perspective that the actual figures don't really relay because of the almost incomprehensible size

/like my penis
 
2013-01-01 06:58:49 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: IamKaiserSoze!!!: cameroncrazy1984: IamKaiserSoze!!!: OK, the senate just passed a bill that will increase annual taxes by $65 billion against an annual deficit of over $1 trillion.

There's your great progressive victory. Now where's the rest come from?

I hope to hell the House vetoes or significantly amends that piece of crap and gets to work on a comprehensive solution. Better yet I would like to see the House pass a Simpson-Bowles type bill and send it back to the Senate. This shiat has to stop.

Hahahahaha, you're so cute.

thank you.

and you're so young and naïve, but eventually you'll understand.

I understand alright. I understand that nothing will get done as long as the Tea Party controls the House.


OK, so let's say this tax increase goes through and we now have covered 7% of the annual deficit covered. Let's even say we double it and now cover 15%.

Where's the rest come from? You've still got $850 million a year to deal with and that's before the ACA starts adding to the deficit.

Do you see any scenario in which you personally would sacrifice something whether it's additional taxes or delayed eligibility for SocSec or MCare?
 
2013-01-01 06:58:54 PM  

skullkrusher: removing the zeros does help put it in perspective.


If your brain can't comprehend that many zeroes, you should sit down, be quiet and let the big kids talk.
 
2013-01-01 06:59:10 PM  

PapaChester: Most people are out of work due to a lack of require job skills.

Shouldn't the solution be free college-level trade school education?

I keep hearing about business owners whining about NEEDING to hire out of country to fill these roles. Shouldn't we be investing more in education to fill these jobs?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the wheels of this country move on the frivolous expenditures of the masses? The more people capable of making frivolous expenditures the better?


For some people sitting at home for x per week in ui benefits is better than waking up and going to work somewhere for x + 100.

Supposedly a study in norway showed that on average people found a job right before ui ran out.......so norway cut the length of benefits in half...and people still found jobs right before they ran out of ui compensation.
 
2013-01-01 06:59:13 PM  
For the life of me, I'll never understand why the anti-taxers refuse to acknowledge the "economy of scale" and "public benefit."

If everyone pitches in a dollar, you can buy stuff that one person wouldn't be able to afford on his/her own. E.g., each family buying one laptop per one child spends more money per child than a school system that can afford to buy 100 laptops from one source for 100 children.

If everyone helps pay for a service that benefits those who are temporarily poor, broke or ill, it helps prevent those persons from desperately acquiring property or services that legally belong to someone else. E.g., Food Stamps keep people out of my garage looking for stuff to steal and sell so that they can eat.
 
2013-01-01 06:59:27 PM  

sprawl15: which is like discovering your house is full to the top with shiat and deciding the best solution is putting a garden hose in a window and pumping in water


Actually the analogy is just shiat that isn't helpful to understanding how what government debt is, which is non-government savings. When you call the dollars in everyone's bank account shiat, you're off to a bad start.

skullkrusher: You guys sure are pissed about people pointing out that we spend a farkload more than we generate in revenue


Don't mistake mockery with anger. I want the government to spend more than it takes in.
 
2013-01-01 06:59:41 PM  

cretinbob: skullkrusher: removing the zeros does help put it in perspective.

If your brain can't comprehend that many zeroes, you should sit down, be quiet and let the big kids talk.


this was one of those "wow this sounds awesome in my head but I sure am gonna look like a farking fool when I put pen to paper" situations
 
2013-01-01 07:00:00 PM  

Fart_Machine: It's from the Moonie Times. That is all you need to know.


I won't even click on a link to that site. Not willing to give them even a fraction of a cent.
 
2013-01-01 07:00:21 PM  

Smackledorfer: IamKaiserSoze!!!: cameroncrazy1984: IamKaiserSoze!!!: OK, the senate just passed a bill that will increase annual taxes by $65 billion against an annual deficit of over $1 trillion.

There's your great progressive victory. Now where's the rest come from?

I hope to hell the House vetoes or significantly amends that piece of crap and gets to work on a comprehensive solution. Better yet I would like to see the House pass a Simpson-Bowles type bill and send it back to the Senate. This shiat has to stop.

Hahahahaha, you're so cute.

thank you.

and you're so young and naïve, but eventually you'll understand.

If someone older than you says that to you do you admit you are wrong and change your mind?


And if someone called you cute would you admit you were wrong and change your mind sir white knight?
 
2013-01-01 07:01:23 PM  

skullkrusher: You guys sure are pissed about people pointing out that we spend a farkload more than we generate in revenue


That is a problem, and has been since Reagan, but the key piece that the analogy misses is that changing spending has a drastic effect on receipts.

If the government cut spending by 10% ($380 bn), the effect would be the loss of about as big of a chunk of the economy as the entire 2008-2009 economic downturn, and the effects would likely be as severe (if not more severe, coming as a double-dip recession).

The first recession cost us about $400 bn in lowered tax receipts, so this hypothetical 10% cut would actually make the deficit worse - we've reduced expenses by $380 bn but also reduced revenues by $400bn. That's not even considering the secondary effects (such as increasing government mandatory outlays by increasing unemployment).

The only practical way to tackle this is at the revenue side - any major spending change will have unintended consequences (or intended consequences - there are plenty who would benefit politically from the government causing a major economic downturn).
 
2013-01-01 07:02:12 PM  

Giltric: For some people sitting at home for x per week in ui benefits is better than waking up and going to work somewhere for x + 100.


Well except it's more like 4x not x +100, which is a bit different.
 
2013-01-01 07:04:26 PM  
Good until the taxes are cut for the rich, there is no deal.

Why is Obama a richist?
 
2013-01-01 07:05:13 PM  

Fart_Machine: skullkrusher: removing the zeros does help put it in perspective.
You guys sure are pissed about people pointing out that we spend a farkload more than we generate in revenue

No, it's just that comparing the government to a household budget is pants-on-head retarded.


If you wanna know how POHR this is...the probability that most of that "household budget" is spent on things like a new car every year and lavish wants, plus insurance (life, health, etc.), and food and rent. Republicans are clamoring for us to ditch the insurance and cut the food and rent, while trading in our 2012 mid-size sedan for a 2013 sports car.

/And that car is the military budget, BTW.
//And that's how POHR the analogy is.
 
2013-01-01 07:05:16 PM  
Total bullshiat:

Politico (no friend of the administration):

CBO begins its analysis from its March current law baseline that assumes all of Bush-era tax cuts would expire at New Year's Day, and therefore gives no deficit-reduction credit for the fact that the deal begins to raise rates for the wealthiest Americans.
Yet since last spring the CBO itself has warned that if nothing were done, the so-called "fiscal cliff" combination of tax increases and
Most important, perhaps, the long range estimates don't reflect the fact that the deal now is only the first step toward establishing a new baseline from which the White House and Republicans hope to work next year to carry out tax reform. At one level, tax cuts were being thrown into the mix - impacting the Alternative Minimum Tax for example - in order to influence this future baseline without regard to the deficit results.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/the-price-tag-4-trillion-added- t o-deficit-85651.html#ixzz2GluaeIh8
 
2013-01-01 07:05:59 PM  
Hai guiz, what's going on in this thr...

Zombalupagus
pic responses

Oh.

[slowly backs out of thread]
 
2013-01-01 07:06:57 PM  

skullkrusher: cretinbob: skullkrusher: removing the zeros does help put it in perspective.

If your brain can't comprehend that many zeroes, you should sit down, be quiet and let the big kids talk.

this was one of those "wow this sounds awesome in my head but I sure am gonna look like a farking fool when I put pen to paper" situations


It's all right. Always remember, when people don't smack you upside the head when you say something dumb, they aren't paying attention to you and don't want you to do better.

Also, I have crabs in my pants
 
2013-01-01 07:07:18 PM  

IamKaiserSoze!!!: Better yet I would like to see the House pass a Simpson-Bowles type bill


You realize that the Simpson-Bowles bill had even more tax increases right?
 
2013-01-01 07:08:06 PM  

skullkrusher: GAT_00: skullkrusher: GAT_00: unlikely: They took the "kick it down the road" option, didn't they.

Partially.  We'll have to do this again in two months in this deal, but it still raised some taxes.

hehe I do so love how raising taxes is a worthy end unto itself.

The deficit is how big?  Yeah, raising taxes is a worthy end into itself.  You would think so too if you actually cared about the debt or the deficit.

raising taxes to fix the deficit isn't raising taxes as an end unto itself. I've seen you post. We could be running a surplus and you'd want taxes raised on certain individuals.


And we can't do it when people like you claim to care, yet oppose any and all tax raises.  You think that somehow we can cut all this spending to fix the deficit when the deficit is mostly caused by tax cuts.
 
2013-01-01 07:09:57 PM  

Funk Brothers: Good until the taxes are cut for the rich, there is no deal.

Why is Obama a richist?


They are getting a tax cut. They get the same cuts for the brackets that all others get for those tax brackets.
 
2013-01-01 07:10:23 PM  
legalize meth. and fix the economy.
 
2013-01-01 07:11:44 PM  

COMALite J: PsiChick: kxs401: How did the greatest generation raise the greediest, most sociopathic generation. Sacrifice for the common good? I won't even be mildly inconvenienced for the common good!

Which generations? Because with one, I agree.

The "Greatest Generation" had experienced the Great Depression and WWII with its rationing and other privations, and as a result went above and beyond in their desire to leave a better world for their children. They wanted to make sure that their kids never had to go through the privations that they had.

The post-WWII economic prosperity of the 1950s (made possible largely by the fact that most of our competition had been bombed back into the Medieval era, and the Marshall Plan helped them get out but also expanded our own markets ― oh, yeah, and a 91% Top Marginal Tax Rate also helped the Middle Class participate in that prosperity) enabled them to fulfill that admirable-on-the-face-of-it goal more than any generation prior to them.

And then, into this situation, along came Dr. Benjamin Spock.

Result: a generation of spoiled brats (I include myself in that judgment) who for the most part never had to struggle to earn what they have.


Damn Vulcans.
 
2013-01-01 07:13:24 PM  

cretinbob: skullkrusher: cretinbob: skullkrusher: removing the zeros does help put it in perspective.

If your brain can't comprehend that many zeroes, you should sit down, be quiet and let the big kids talk.

this was one of those "wow this sounds awesome in my head but I sure am gonna look like a farking fool when I put pen to paper" situations

It's all right. Always remember, when people don't smack you upside the head when you say something dumb, they aren't paying attention to you and don't want you to do better.

Also, I have crabs in my pants


I was talking about your post, homes. Putting very large figures into numbers that people deal with on a day to day basis is a pretty common trick and it does assist in gaining some perspective on the proportions
 
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