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(CBS Sports)   The State of Pennsylvania to file suit against the NCAA. Claiming that their right to life, liberty and shower rape has been violated   (cbssports.com) divider line 121
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2013-01-01 02:16:05 PM
Well, I suppose the NCAA could revoke the sanctions and replace them with a 4-year DEATH PENALTY, which was what Pedd State was going to be hit with had they not agreed to the sanctions. >_>
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-01 02:31:56 PM
After reading the SI article my guess is state politicians want to spend the $60 million on state programs and reduce regular state funding to those programs by $60 million to come out even. The NCAA wants to spread the money around the country, making Pennsylvania poorer as a result of the fine.
 
2013-01-01 02:33:36 PM
Dear Penn State Alumni;
The longer you keep the child rape scandal in the public eye, the worse you look.  Raping kids is bad.  Covering it up to protect the reputation of your football team is also bad.  Continuing to complain about the punishment for the cover-up does more to damage the reputation of your football program than simply accepting the punishment and moving on.  Farking stop it already.
 
2013-01-01 02:57:33 PM
The state legislature is trying to keep the money in state to help the people actually affected by the scandal -- who are, you know, in Pennsylvania. By taking 75% of the fine out of state, you're not really helping the victims at all.

This is not about challenging the findings or suggesting that the university should have been able to keep the cover up going.
 
2013-01-01 02:59:35 PM
Spiffy: Someone finally sues the NCAA.

Stupid: It's Pennsyltucky on behalf of Pedo State.
 
2013-01-01 03:06:58 PM

FloydA: Raping kids is bad.


Some people say that. I'm not sure I can decide based on fair and balanced facts until I've heard from the other side.
 
2013-01-01 03:15:10 PM
What say we all riot in support of pedo rapist enablers? We'll go through the gym, down to the quad... who's with me?!?!

Let's goooooooo
 
2013-01-01 03:33:01 PM

Peter von Nostrand: What say we all riot in support of pedo rapist enablers? We'll go through the gym, down to the quad... who's with me?!?!

Let's goooooooo


Can we streak? If we streak then I'm in.
 
2013-01-01 04:18:16 PM

OtherLittleGuy: Pennsyltucky


Look, I've had about enough of this.

As someone who was raised in, and subsequently escaped from, the Commonwealth of Kentucky, I recognize the flaws of my home state. And it's completely unfair to compare us to those child-rape enablers in the North. We have our flaws, but kiddy-diddling isn't on the list.

Unless they're good at basketball.
 
2013-01-01 04:18:49 PM
PA makes Mississippi look intelligent.
 
2013-01-01 04:28:29 PM

kronicfeld: FloydA: Raping kids is bad.

Some people say that. I'm not sure I can decide based on fair and balanced facts until I've heard from the other side.


Gotta stop that mob mentality you know.
 
2013-01-01 04:48:19 PM

ZAZ: After reading the SI article my guess is state politicians want to spend the $60 million on state programs and reduce regular state funding to those programs by $60 million to come out even. The NCAA wants to spread the money around the country, making Pennsylvania poorer as a result of the fine.


And yet the death penalty would cost the state much, much more than $60M.
 
2013-01-01 04:52:56 PM

Krymson Tyde: Peter von Nostrand: What say we all riot in support of pedo rapist enablers? We'll go through the gym, down to the quad... who's with me?!?!

Let's goooooooo

Can we streak? If we streak then I'm in.


Of course. That's part of the rioting
 
2013-01-01 05:01:40 PM

ZAZ: Pennsylvania poorer as a result of the fine.


except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.
it is cute the state wants to steal money that isnt theirs.
PENN STATE can always choose not to pay the fines and not play in the NCAA.
Funny how this whole RULE thing confuses people.

You dont have to follow the rules, they are not LAWS. But then you should expect to be able to play with the other kids who follow the rules.

/WHY is this still an issue??
 
2013-01-01 05:08:54 PM

namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.


And state universities are funded by....?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-01-01 05:10:43 PM
namatad

Around here state schools get a lot more than $60 million per year in state funding. Is it different in Pennsylvania?
 
2013-01-01 05:18:01 PM

Donnchadha: namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.

And state universities are funded by....?


Football tickets and sales of emblematic items?
 
2013-01-01 05:35:59 PM

Donnchadha: namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.

And state universities are funded by....?


Magic. Duh
 
2013-01-01 05:40:17 PM

ZAZ: Is it different in Pennsylvania?


It is, but in weird ways. Penn State is run by an independent organization, funded by the state, exempt from governmental disclosure laws, and essentially allowed to do whatever it damn well pleases.
 
2013-01-01 05:56:28 PM
As long as they restore JoePa's record so that Bowdenhole doesn't have it, I'll be happy.
 
2013-01-01 05:58:16 PM

Donnchadha: The state legislature is trying to keep the money in state to help the people actually affected by the scandal -- who are, you know, in Pennsylvania. By taking 75% of the fine out of state, you're not really helping the victims at all.


I guess it depends on who the victims are.  I don't recall reading that the $60 million was supposed to go to Sandusky's victims only.  Isn't it supposed to go to programs for all victims of child sexual abuse?
 
2013-01-01 06:02:09 PM
Fine.  Penn State is no longer allowed to be a member of the NCAA ever.   No games with NCAA members.  No more Div 1 trophies.  They can compete with the NAIA teams.
 
2013-01-01 06:07:25 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Donnchadha: The state legislature is trying to keep the money in state to help the people actually affected by the scandal -- who are, you know, in Pennsylvania. By taking 75% of the fine out of state, you're not really helping the victims at all.

I guess it depends on who the victims are.  I don't recall reading that the $60 million was supposed to go to Sandusky's victims only.  Isn't it supposed to go to programs for all victims of child sexual abuse?


Not directly, but funneling money into programs in Idaho aren't going to help the victims at all.

However, that's also likely the "Think of the children!" ploy of the legislature who is seeing if they can get their money back.
 
2013-01-01 06:17:35 PM
fark those assholes
 
2013-01-01 06:21:22 PM

Donnchadha: namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.

And state universities are funded by....?


so then why is the state agreeing to pay this fine?
they should just drop out of the NCAA and go back up education and get rid of the entertainment?
LOL
 
2013-01-01 06:27:54 PM
Paging GAT_00 to the Blue and White courtesy phone...
 
2013-01-01 07:12:10 PM

vygramul: Paging GAT_00 to the Blue and White courtesy phone...


Nope, because when I express my opinion in these threads, I get deleted and get a four day ban.  I'm not allowed to speak my mind in certain types threads, and this is one of them.
 
2013-01-01 08:55:07 PM

Donnchadha: namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.

And state universities are funded by....?


Thanks to Gov. Corbett's own state funding cuts, Penn State is receiving nothing compared to past appropriations.
 
2013-01-01 08:56:26 PM

FloydA: Dear Penn State Alumni;
The longer you keep the child rape scandal in the public eye, the worse you look.  Raping kids is bad.  Covering it up to protect the reputation of your football team is also bad.  Continuing to complain about the punishment for the cover-up does more to damage the reputation of your football program than simply accepting the punishment and moving on.  Farking stop it already.


So, you're saying that they should just bend over and grab their ankles?
 
2013-01-01 08:59:48 PM
IlGreven:

So, you're saying that they should just bend over and grab their ankles?

As long as they're consenting adults, I have no problem with that.
 
2013-01-01 08:59:58 PM

Gonz: OtherLittleGuy: Pennsyltucky

Look, I've had about enough of this.

As someone who was raised in, and subsequently escaped from, the Commonwealth of Kentucky, I recognize the flaws of my home state. And it's completely unfair to compare us to those child-rape enablers in the North. We have our flaws, but kiddy-diddling isn't on the list.

Unless they're good at basketball.


Look, I've had enough of this.

As someone who lived in, and subsequently escaped from, the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, I can say with some authority that the rest of the country would hate that shiathole with even more vehemence if they knew how horrible it really is. It is an absolute hellscape peopled with the most horrifying grotesques imaginable. Even thinking about the place makes me feel like I need a Silkwood shower.

/"Come friendly bombs, and fall on Philly."
//"For it's not fit for humans, really."
 
2013-01-01 09:00:14 PM

mattbau: Donnchadha: namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.

And state universities are funded by....?

Thanks to Gov. Corbett's own state funding cuts, Penn State is receiving nothing compared to past appropriations.


And thanks to Tom Corbett seeking the governorship rather than attempting to nip Sandusky in the bud as AG, Penn State is getting a bigger ass-raping than it should have.
 
2013-01-01 09:00:25 PM
Reading the comments on every Penn State story here always leads me to believe everyone actually believes students knew and were OK with what was happening.

I'll just leave this here
 
2013-01-01 09:01:55 PM

IlGreven: mattbau: Donnchadha: namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.

And state universities are funded by....?

Thanks to Gov. Corbett's own state funding cuts, Penn State is receiving nothing compared to past appropriations.

And thanks to Tom Corbett seeking the governorship rather than attempting to nip Sandusky in the bud as AG, Penn State is getting a bigger ass-raping than it should have.


Couldn't agree more. This whole lawsuit is just him trying to save his ass since the new attorney general is going after him for how he failed to prosecute Sandusky back in 1998.
 
2013-01-01 09:04:51 PM
There are two major reasons this is happening:

1. Gov Corbett was the Attorney General who started the prosecution of Sandusky. Then he "pressured" some of the PSU Board of Trustees to fire Paterno. There are many people in this State who still treat Paterno as a God and as such would never ever vote for the man who sullied Paterno's name. This is a ploy by Corbett to save himself some face and maybe secure reelection in 2014.

2. Many of Corbett's supporters were big supporters of Second Mile, Sandusky's "charity." When Second Mile went under, those cushy local charity positions dried up. With 75% of the fine money going to out of state organizations, its harder to funnel money back to these supporters under the guise of "charity work." Corbett wants to keep that fine money in state so he can "pay-off" his supporters.

PA's newly elected Attorney and Auditor Generals are Democrats and have it out for Corbett. He needs all the support he can get...
 
2013-01-01 09:14:38 PM

Donnchadha: namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.

And state universities are funded by....?


Frequently not the states. These days less than 10% usually comes from the state. Grants, tuition (meaning student loans and Pell grants), foundations and other sources make up the lion's share of funding. I don't know about Pedo State's funding but I'd be astonished if the state's burden for this fine proportional to all sources of school funding was more than $5 million.
 
2013-01-01 09:28:39 PM

Donnchadha: namatad: except that pennsylvania is not paying the fine. PENN STATE is paying the fine.

And state universities are funded by....?


The fine was to be paid out of athletics revenues. If the university chooses to burn state taxpayer dollars instead, that's their choice.
 
2013-01-01 09:30:16 PM

Terlis: 1. Gov Corbett was the Attorney General who started the prosecution of Sandusky. Then he "pressured" some of the PSU Board of Trustees to fire Paterno. There are many people in this State who still treat Paterno as a God and as such would never ever vote for the man who sullied Paterno's name. This is a ploy by Corbett to save himself some face and maybe secure reelection in 2014.


...he started nothing. He abandoned it all in the name of going for his governorship. If he'd had the integrity he's trying to project, Sandusky would've been in prison a decade ago and PSU wouldn't have gotten nearly the sanctions it did.
 
2013-01-01 09:34:12 PM

mattbau: Reading the comments on every Penn State story here always leads me to believe everyone actually believes students knew and were OK with what was happening.

I'll just leave this here


I don't know of anyone who thinks the students knew what Sandusky was doing.

Most people who look at this sad affair with any honesty and objectivity DO realize that the student and alumni "worship" of the football program and deification of Paterno contributed to the aura of sanctity of the program.  Most objective observers realize that the administration tried to hush the whole thing up in order to protect the football program.  If the students and alumni had recognized that the football program was composed of mere fallible mortals, the cover up would not have occurred.  Sandusky would have been jailed right away, and the NCAA punishments would not have been necessary.

If one of the TAs in the English Lit department had been caught molesting kids, s/he would have been dragged away in irons, because the students and alumni are not fanatical cultists about the English Lit program.

When people consider a football team (or any other group- I'm looking at you, priests and ministers) to be so important that they cannot be questioned, abuses are bound to take place.  Abusive people seek out "protected" positions like that, so that they can engage in their abuses with impunity.  That's exactly what Sandusky did.  The students and alumni didn't know what he was doing, but their cult worship of the football program made it possible, so IMO, they have to take some of the responsibility.
 
2013-01-01 09:34:45 PM
Wow.

The quibble seems to be whether the politicians can take credit for somehow funnelling $60 million, instead of just a tiny fraction of that, back into educating Pennsylvanians about child rape? Imagine that discussion:

"Look, we're happy Penn State has to pay up. But, we'd like to take that money, all of it, and redirect it solely at Pennsylvania. It'd allow us to redirect child-abuse education allocations to other areas of the state, so that the reprehensible crimes committed by Penn State end up a win-win for Pennsylvania. The NCAA gets credit for being hard on child rape, and we get credit for exploiting child rape to lower our deficit by sixy mil. Now, we're prepared to sue to ensure that happens..."
 
2013-01-01 09:37:18 PM

Captain Steroid: Well, I suppose the NCAA could revoke the sanctions and replace them with a 4-year DEATH PENALTY, which was what Pedd State was going to be hit with had they not agreed to the sanctions.


that would be fabulous...
 
2013-01-01 09:41:09 PM

FloydA: Dear Penn State Alumni;
The longer you keep the child rape scandal in the public eye, the worse you look.  Raping kids is bad.  Covering it up to protect the reputation of your football team is also bad.  Continuing to complain about the punishment for the cover-up does more to damage the reputation of your football program than simply accepting the punishment and moving on.  Farking stop it already.


As an alum, I would like to see the entire athletic program nuked from orbit.
When I was at a party last year in NH, I was in a circle of gentlemen discussing of all things, Russian Literature. Everyone in the circle was impressively informed on the subject and one gent brought up the fact that he had only studied it for "art's sake" to keep from becoming bored during finals. Where did you go to college, I asked. Oh, I'm a Harvard MIT grad.
You are? chimed in the next gent, why so am I. And so it went, around the circle until they came to me.
All of them were Harvard MIT grads, except me.
I went to PSU and studied it by sitting in on classes that weren't full, as a monitor.
I never even graduated.
Never went to games, and didn't watch them or keep score. Couldn't care less about it. I was there to get an education, degree be dammed.

They still send me requests to donate them money. I don't even have a sheepskin with my name on it.
Football is nothing. It is not worth the resources and liability. You do more good having concerts in the stadium and selling tickets to see real talent.

No one at the party thought less of me for my lack of a degree. I could hold my own amongst them conversing about anything, from polymer science resonance, to recent demarcation of third world nations and still hold my liquor.

I have a new-found respect for the Harvard community, and a lack of it for the PSU community. At least they never once brought up how they rubbed one out over a high score achieved by a tight pants mouth-breather who now sells used cars in Buzzkill, PA.

The governor of that state of disrepute is an asshole and has sealed his legacy. He isn't pounding his desk asking what happened to Ray Gricar. He's trying to save his seat. What a joke. Sadly, the bitter, bible and gun clutching voters of his state will probably allow him to continue to get fat on their dime.
 
2013-01-01 09:43:21 PM
So when Corbett is taking it in the ass from a prison bull queer I wonder if he'll finally realize that maybe he should have put children before the Republican Party?
 
2013-01-01 09:48:46 PM

kronicfeld: FloydA: Raping kids is bad.

Some people say that. I'm not sure I can decide based on fair and balanced facts until I've heard from the other side.


Both sides are bad so vote Pedo.
 
2013-01-01 09:49:53 PM

Kevin72: kronicfeld: FloydA: Raping kids is bad.

Some people say that. I'm not sure I can decide based on fair and balanced facts until I've heard from the other side.

Both sides are bad so vote for Pedo.

 
2013-01-01 09:54:19 PM

vudukungfu: The governor of that state of disrepute is an asshole and has sealed his legacy. He isn't pounding his desk asking what happened to Ray Gricar. He's trying to save his seat. What a joke. Sadly, the bitter, bible and gun clutching voters of his state will probably allow him to continue to get fat on their dime.


Sorry vudu, I don't agree on football, but I do agree that going to concerts is valuable.

As far as the Governor is concerned (and probably the family of Ray Gricar), isn't knowing what happened to your hotshot driving DA important as well? This one bothers me. I don't know why, but it doesn't really seem to me that folks really want to dig into that rockpile.
 
2013-01-01 10:03:57 PM

I_C_Weener: Fine.   Penn State UGA is no longer allowed to be a member of the NCAA ever.   No games with NCAA members.  No more Div 1 trophies.  They can compete with the NAIA teams.


FTFM

/Gators fan
 
2013-01-01 10:04:37 PM

cretinbob: fark those assholes


that's why they are in this mess.
 
2013-01-01 10:05:46 PM

Evil Canadian: it doesn't really seem to me that folks really want to dig into that rockpile.


Dig, we must.
 
2013-01-01 10:27:22 PM
Huh, I had kind of pushed it out of my mind that an alarming number of high-ranking Penn State officials covered-up and enabled the forcible sodomy of underage boys for years, and that a large number of the student body actually rioted in support of a pedophile enabler.

Thanks for the reminder, guys.
 
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