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(BBC)   2013 starts with the usual "Wealth is Evil" speech, given by the head of a multi-billion dollar empire, while perched in a gilded throne, and wearing hand-embroidered silk robes and custom-fitted silk slippers   ( bbc.co.uk) divider line
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2013-01-01 08:10:20 PM  

mittromneysdog: PhiloeBedoe: Don't forget the upside-down cross on the back of that throne...

That's because St. Peter was crucified upside down.


I though it was cause the pope is a huge sabbath fan
 
2013-01-01 08:12:04 PM  

cman: For an enlightened people who claims that they do not judge prematurely, there seems to me that many of you believe that catholics = child molesters. Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats like saying Muslims=terrorists


You're just mad we're not hating brown people.
 
2013-01-01 08:12:25 PM  
Let me give  my WiE speech.
 
2013-01-01 08:13:12 PM  

1 John 4:1, New International Version (NIV)

"Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world."



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2013-01-01 08:14:31 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: cman: For an enlightened people who claims that they do not judge prematurely, there seems to me that many of you believe that catholics = child molesters. Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats like saying Muslims=terrorists

You're just mad we're not hating brown people.


I have no probs with brown people; however, those damn French...
 
2013-01-01 08:17:59 PM  
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtains robes
 
2013-01-01 08:18:29 PM  

FormlessOne: Some time in the future, when we move beyond religion, I will look forward to watching the wealth gathered through centuries of death, torture, theft, suppression, and lies reclaimed by the world.


And put it where? Some of those places don't even exist any more, and some of them wouldn't take it back if it was offered (or would destroy it if they did--I don't think returning the treasures pillaged from, say, Samarkand, would benefit if they were returned to Afghanistan).

I'd be happy myself if the Vatican were turned into a free museum, and the Pope and his minions had to live a life of poverty and etc., in some humble cell out back, like the servants of Christ were supposed to do.
 
2013-01-01 08:18:30 PM  
It doesn't mean he's wrong. Learn to separate the message from the messenger.
 
2013-01-01 08:19:08 PM  
7 days
5000 years
Jesus Rode on Dinosaurs etc etc
 
2013-01-01 08:19:34 PM  

lewismarktwo: The problem isn't that the wealthy are wealthy, it's that they actively seek to keep the poor poor. Because, unless there are people who are poor, then no one is 'wealthy'.



I think more accurately they are indifferent to the poor. Wealth is not the problem, the problem is the people who control the wealth main motivation is collecting more wealth. They lack the imagination to do anything more with it.
 
2013-01-01 08:19:43 PM  
"No says the man in the vatican it belongs to god..."
 
2013-01-01 08:20:37 PM  

KrispyKritter: There was a time when people respected other peoples right to freedom of religion. I've not been on Fark that long so I don't know if it ever existed here.


I absolutely respect your right to freedom of religion. That doesn't mean I can't ridicule you for your choice in imaginary friends and it certainly doesn't mean I can't criticize the followers of your imaginary friend.
 
2013-01-01 08:21:29 PM  

bakkasan: 7 days
5000 years
Jesus Rode on Dinosaurs etc etc


I'm pretty sure Catholics don't believe that shiat at all.

But awesome post!
 
2013-01-01 08:23:11 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: KrispyKritter: There was a time when people respected other peoples right to freedom of religion. I've not been on Fark that long so I don't know if it ever existed here.

I absolutely respect your right to freedom of religion. That doesn't mean I can't ridicule you for your choice in imaginary friends and it certainly doesn't mean I can't criticize the followers of your imaginary friend.


That is exactly the same reasoning used by the KKK! Good for you.
 
2013-01-01 08:23:27 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: Seasons I'v Withered: The Why Not Guy: gopher321: Aaaand here's the annual New Years Catholic Church Is Evil bashing thread. Right on time.

Happy Holidays!

Is the church a good church to you ?

Well, there are some good Catholic organizations out there doing charity work.
I don't count missionaries, just people providing help with necessities and volunteering their time.

Of course, they're the people at the bottom and not the "executives" of the church like ol' Palpatine here.


so I guess some don't really care then huh ? wow -- I want to leave this freakin planet sometimes -- I don't have the belly for it
 
2013-01-01 08:23:48 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Nelson Mandella had the same stance, but we're not allowed to bring that up


Why is that? Are the big bad scary liberals oppressing you?

If Nelson Mandela opposed the use of condoms to stop the spread of AIDS then he was just a wrong as the Pope.

/liberal
 
2013-01-01 08:24:04 PM  

nmrsnr: What, you expect God's representative on Earth to live like a menial laborer?


The archbishop of Boston sold the bishop's mansion that came with the job, lives in a single room in a rectory, and still wears his lain brown Capucin order robes. So yeah, it's doable.
 
2013-01-01 08:26:05 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: gopher321: Aaaand here's the annual New Years Catholic Church Is Evil bashing thread. Right on time.

Have you read any of the news about them lately?  They don't contribute a whole lotta good to the world.  Don't be surprised when they get called out on that.


Yep.  No good whatsoever.  None of those hospitals with saint in their name, no parochial schools, not the  largest charity operation in the history of the world,etc
 
2013-01-01 08:28:59 PM  

lewismarktwo: The problem isn't that the wealthy are wealthy, it's that they actively seek to keep the poor poor. Because, unless there are people who are poor, then no one is 'wealthy'.



Just think, if you had been a professor at Stanford in 1983 you too could have gotten famous for writing a journal article with exactly that point.

http://philpapers.org/rec/RORPBL
 
2013-01-01 08:30:52 PM  
Meh, it beats being told "wealth is evil" by their kids.
 
2013-01-01 08:31:27 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Monkeyhouse Zendo: Testiclaw: Any enterprise that regularly participates in knowingly enabling child rapists to find and exploit victims is generally not worth supporting.

So, in closing, fark the church and their supporters.

The position the Holy See took against the use of condoms to combat the AIDS epidemic in Africa probably had a much larger cost in human misery but there are so many reasons to be disgusted by the Catholic Church it's hard to choose just one.

Nelson Mandella had the same stance, but we're not allowed to bring that up


But you just did, and I commend you for it.
 
2013-01-01 08:32:22 PM  

Monkeyhouse Zendo: KrispyKritter: There was a time when people respected other peoples right to freedom of religion. I've not been on Fark that long so I don't know if it ever existed here.

I absolutely respect your right to freedom of religion. That doesn't mean I can't ridicule you for your choice in imaginary friends and it certainly doesn't mean I can't criticize the followers of your imaginary friend.


I like that.
 
2013-01-01 08:32:42 PM  

KangTheMad: nmrsnr: What, you expect God's representative on Earth to live like a menial laborer?

Yeah, preferably a carpenter

Testiclaw: gopher321: Aaaand here's the annual New Years Catholic Church Is Evil bashing thread. Right on time.


So, in closing, fark the church and their supporters.

They're already doing that.


Joseph was not a menial laborer. He was a highly skilled craftsman. A menial laborer would not have been able to travel to be enrolled like he did, nor would he have been able to marry a temple virgin, heavenly messengers or no. His purported geneology specifically calls him out as in the royal line of David, and his child was seen as such a threat to the Roman-backed Herrodic line that they risked a rebellion with a widespread infanticide to eliminate the new heir in the traditional lineage.

Joseph, and by birthright Jesus, was a 1%er. The myth of the menial laborer is romanticism propagated by those with a very poor grasp of what life was like at that time and in that place.

The difference between Jesus and the Pope was a willingness to give up a life of privelege to fight a religious institution that turned teachings into oppressive laws that placed adherence to a code before the welfare of the people.
 
2013-01-01 08:33:20 PM  

cman: For an enlightened people who claims that they do not judge prematurely, there seems to me that many of you believe that catholics = child molesters. Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats like saying Muslims=terrorists


Bad PR - It's a biatch. It's up to those 99% "good people" that truly want to to stop the church from doing these things to force them to change. If this takes walking away, then that's the moral thing to do. Go find a more "fair trade" religion that doesn't poke its nose into sexuality or politics.
Think about it - If your God is a real "just and merciful" entity, then he'll actually reward you for these actions - not being a scared toady supporting the church just so you get your ticket to the afterlife, but actually doing the right thing.
But, if you think that your god is the jealous, nasty, egotistical, vindictive entity who flooded the world to kill almost everyone because they refused to worship him, then, too bad.
 
2013-01-01 08:33:36 PM  
The last time I was in a Catholic church the priest was hitting the parishioners up for eighty thousand dollars for a life size nativity set from Italy. The church already had a beautiful, and I'm sure expensive, nativity set. But no, the old one wasn't good enough. It made me sick to think what that money could have done. But no, instead of feeding the hungry, or paying for a homeless shelter, that money was wasted on shiny baubles. Now multiply that waste times thousands of churches who take money from people who are told that their money is going to help people. The thought of how much money is siphoned away from helping people is disgusting.
 
2013-01-01 08:34:20 PM  

Magorn: Yep. No good whatsoever. None of those hospitals with saint in their name, no parochial schools, not the largest charity operation in the history of the world,etc


Those hospitals don't seem to charge any less than Secular Generall and those parochial schools are pretty damned expensive.

I don't deny that the Catholic Church does charity work but when you compare its charity work with it's total assets it starts looking a whole lot less impressive.
 
2013-01-01 08:36:37 PM  
Stupid Nazi pope.
 
2013-01-01 08:36:57 PM  

mittromneysdog: blacksho89: You know, I usually defend the Roman church in these threads, as most of you Farkers are such knee jerk morans that you will hate on anybody with different beliefs. But in this case? The headline is 100%. Where the fark does Benny think his money came from?

The Roman Catholic Church's wealth did not come from unregulated capitalism, which is what the Pope talked about in his speech.


No, they took most of it from poor people.
 
2013-01-01 08:37:06 PM  

mittromneysdog: blacksho89: You know, I usually defend the Roman church in these threads, as most of you Farkers are such knee jerk morans that you will hate on anybody with different beliefs. But in this case? The headline is 100%. Where the fark does Benny think his money came from?

The Roman Catholic Church's wealth did not come from unregulated capitalism, which is what the Pope talked about in his speech.


True. It came from theft and fraud.
 
2013-01-01 08:37:14 PM  

LiberalEastCoastElitist: Ninety-one percent of nuns and 75 percent of priests are 60 or older, and most of the rest are at least 50.

Rapidly becoming irrelevant.


If the catholic church would let priests get married, they could solve that problem pretty quickly.

/looking for long term employment with almost no chance of ever being laid off? As long as you don't mind working sundays, you got it!
 
2013-01-01 08:39:37 PM  

flyinglizard: mittromneysdog: blacksho89: You know, I usually defend the Roman church in these threads, as most of you Farkers are such knee jerk morans that you will hate on anybody with different beliefs. But in this case? The headline is 100%. Where the fark does Benny think his money came from?

The Roman Catholic Church's wealth did not come from unregulated capitalism, which is what the Pope talked about in his speech.

No, they took most of it from poor people.


The poor were not using the Sistine chapel anyway.

Rolls eyes
 
2013-01-01 08:39:55 PM  

Basily Gourt: LiberalEastCoastElitist: Ninety-one percent of nuns and 75 percent of priests are 60 or older, and most of the rest are at least 50.

Rapidly becoming irrelevant.

If the catholic church would let priests get married, they could solve that problem pretty quickly.

/looking for long term employment with almost no chance of ever being laid off? As long as you don't mind working sundays, you got it!


They would solve many problems by doing that.
 
2013-01-01 08:40:02 PM  

cman: For an enlightened people who claims that they do not judge prematurely, there seems to me that many of you believe that catholics = child molesters. Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats like saying Muslims=terrorists


I don't agree with this assessment at all. When it comes to child molestation, I believe that the leaders in the catholic church repeatedly chose to protect priests over children. This enables the priests to be child molesters. It's only the catholics that defend the leaders who could be labeled as enablers for child molestation. Go ahead and argue that the logic is wrong.
 
2013-01-01 08:40:23 PM  
Seems appropriate

/Tim is awesome
 
2013-01-01 08:40:41 PM  

Seasons I'v Withered: Is the church a good church to you ?


It's not really anything to me. I have nothing to do with the Catholic Church though I was raised Catholic. I know for a fact that a lot of good is done at the individual and parish level; less at the diocesan and Vatican level. My "Happy Holidays" was an attack in the War on Christmas aimed at someone whining about how mean we are to the Catholic Church.
 
2013-01-01 08:43:18 PM  

KrispyKritter: gopher321: Aaaand here's the annual New Years Catholic Church Is Evil bashing thread. Right on time.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There was a time when people respected other peoples right to freedom of religion. I've not been on Fark that long so I don't know if it ever existed here.

/ can't wait for the Theorists who think they believe in Facts, not Theory


"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart."

~ H. L. Mencken
 
2013-01-01 08:44:44 PM  

halfof33: flyinglizard: mittromneysdog: blacksho89: You know, I usually defend the Roman church in these threads, as most of you Farkers are such knee jerk morans that you will hate on anybody with different beliefs. But in this case? The headline is 100%. Where the fark does Benny think his money came from?

The Roman Catholic Church's wealth did not come from unregulated capitalism, which is what the Pope talked about in his speech.

No, they took most of it from poor people.

The poor were not using the Sistine chapel anyway.

Rolls eyes


You have a point there.
 
2013-01-01 08:46:05 PM  

KrispyKritter: There was a time when people respected other peoples right to freedom of religion. I've not been on Fark that long so I don't know if it ever existed here.


Nobody is saying that you can't practice whatever religion you want. Well, nobody sane, anyway.

But... Duke sucks, your dog wants steak, fb- is in fact not the male parental unit, the answer is always C, and there will always be at least one person who disagrees with you on anything.
 
2013-01-01 08:46:23 PM  

KrispyKritter: gopher321: Aaaand here's the annual New Years Catholic Church Is Evil bashing thread. Right on time.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There was a time when people respected other peoples right to freedom of religion. I've not been on Fark that long so I don't know if it ever existed here.

/ can't wait for the Theorists who think they believe in Facts, not Theory


You'll be waiting a while.

Most people that sound like that on Fark trust information(facts), and not fiction(religion).

Fiction =/= Theory
 
2013-01-01 08:47:10 PM  

Mister Peejay: KrispyKritter: There was a time when people respected other peoples right to freedom of religion. I've not been on Fark that long so I don't know if it ever existed here.

Nobody is saying that you can't practice whatever religion you want. Well, nobody sane, anyway.

But... Duke sucks, your dog wants steak, fb- is in fact not the male parental unit, the answer is always C, and there will always be at least one person who disagrees with you on anything.


I disagree with you on that.
 
2013-01-01 08:49:07 PM  

halfof33: Monkeyhouse Zendo: KrispyKritter: There was a time when people respected other peoples right to freedom of religion. I've not been on Fark that long so I don't know if it ever existed here.

I absolutely respect your right to freedom of religion. That doesn't mean I can't ridicule you for your choice in imaginary friends and it certainly doesn't mean I can't criticize the followers of your imaginary friend.

That is exactly the same reasoning used by the KKK! Good for you.


Of course everyone knows the KKK only ridiculed people. Good thing it never went any farther than hurt feelings.
 
2013-01-01 08:50:58 PM  

mittromneysdog: blacksho89: You know, I usually defend the Roman church in these threads, as most of you Farkers are such knee jerk morans that you will hate on anybody with different beliefs. But in this case? The headline is 100%. Where the fark does Benny think his money came from?

The Roman Catholic Church's wealth did not come from unregulated capitalism, which is what the Pope talked about in his speech.


It came from unbridled feudalistic kleptocracy. Is that better?
 
2013-01-01 08:51:23 PM  
I think this just asserts what a lot are already thinking. Capitalism and free trade are the two new whipping boys for the world. Also that faith is full of hypocrisy.
 
2013-01-01 08:54:14 PM  
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"Pie Jesu, Domine.....dona eis requiem." BONK!
 
2013-01-01 08:55:06 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: Sorry, I can't seem to find the Catholic Church's right to immunity from criticism anywhere in my copy of the Constitution. Can you help me out?


It's right beside the "privacy" clause and the "hunting" clause of the Second Amendment.

That the Catholic Church is not immune from criticism does not mean that you should make it your life's work to take shots at it every chance you get. Alas, the sins of a few are always visited upon the many.
 
2013-01-01 08:57:30 PM  

nacker: cman: For an enlightened people who claims that they do not judge prematurely, there seems to me that many of you believe that catholics = child molesters. Sorry to burst your bubble, but thats like saying Muslims=terrorists

I don't agree with this assessment at all. When it comes to child molestation, I believe that the leaders in the catholic church repeatedly chose to protect priests over children. This enables the priests to be child molesters. It's only the catholics that defend the leaders who could be labeled as enablers for child molestation. Go ahead and argue that the logic is wrong.


You do realize that many Islamic leaders are calling for the destruction of Israel, right? There are also many who want us to suffer the same. When it comes to terrorism, I believe that the leaders in the mosques repeatedly chose to protect terrorists over Jews. This enables the people to be terrorists. Its only the muslims that defend the leaders who could be labeled as enablers for terrorists. Go ahead and argue that the logic is wrong.
 
2013-01-01 08:58:42 PM  

PhiloeBedoe: Don't forget the upside-down cross on the back of that throne...


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2013-01-01 08:59:10 PM  

blacksho89: mittromneysdog: blacksho89: You know, I usually defend the Roman church in these threads, as most of you Farkers are such knee jerk morans that you will hate on anybody with different beliefs. But in this case? The headline is 100%. Where the fark does Benny think his money came from?

The Roman Catholic Church's wealth did not come from unregulated capitalism, which is what the Pope talked about in his speech.

It came from unbridled feudalistic kleptocracy. Is that better?


I would have gone with extorted it from the poor and ignorant under the threat of eternal torture but I'm sure there's a little from column A and a little from column B.
 
2013-01-01 08:59:17 PM  

Lord Dimwit: Sic transit gloria mundi.


I didn't know Gloria was sick.
 
2013-01-01 09:01:47 PM  
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