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(The Union Leader)   Fourteen years on the job without a blemish, Town Clerk is put on trial by the Chief of Police for stealing a hundred dollars. Of course, he didn't bother to check whether the money was actually missing   (unionleader.com) divider line 109
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2013-01-01 08:15:21 PM  
If you think about it, she could probably bankrupt the town with litigation.
 
2013-01-01 08:18:00 PM  

gblive: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

That's nothing. In the South the cop would act as the prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner.


But who would be the bailiff?
 
gja
2013-01-01 08:32:53 PM  
"That's some fine police work there, Lou"

Seriously, I hope she extracts her pound of flesh from them. And I really hope these mindless fools are relieved of their posts and denied further employment in LE. They do nothing but give their occupations unwanted and unneeded black eyes.
 
2013-01-01 08:38:56 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


===============

Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.
 
2013-01-01 08:48:46 PM  

dofus: What do you want to bet Dalton Police Chief Mario Audit has a child or niece/nephew that needs a job?


Well, there might be slots open for Police Chief and Lieutenant pretty soon.

/Here's hoping.
 
2013-01-01 08:48:48 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.

Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.


I would like to know why he does respond to the accusations that he raped and murdered a girl in 1990.
 
2013-01-01 08:53:37 PM  
I just wanted to express that I thought the new Dredd movie didn't suck at all.
 
2013-01-01 08:56:06 PM  
Nothing about this made any sense.
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2013-01-01 08:59:16 PM  

FormlessOne: Bathia_Mapes: Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?

She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.

Hard not to come to the conclusion that someone was looking to save a little pension money by trumping up a charge. So, when does the clerk sue the town for wrongful arrest, prosecutorial misconduct, etc., etc., to pad that pension money with some sweet punitive cash?


I got the impression that this situation was maybe retaliation for something or they really wanted to just get rid of this person. May or may not have been pension related. I would think that she could maybe sue for malicious prosecution although IANAL. For "prosecution" to bring this up without even determining if there had been a crime is very sloppy work indeed. If I were her, I would at least sue for backpay, legal fees and punitive.
 
2013-01-01 09:00:07 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.

Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.


Sense, you make none.
 
2013-01-01 09:02:23 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.

Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.

Sense, you make none.


Whatever. You child molester. Go back to wanking it to the kiddie porn that the police haven't found yet.
 
2013-01-01 09:05:20 PM  

dofus: What do you want to bet Dalton Police Chief Mario Audit has a child or niece/nephew that needs a job?


So Audit didn't audit?
 
2013-01-01 09:11:31 PM  

Fissile: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

===============

Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.




And the flip side is that a full third of our government can only be occupied by a small segment of society.
 
2013-01-01 09:12:34 PM  

BizarreMan: Video doesn't lie, but it doesn't necessarily tell the whole story.


www.goodlightscraps.com

/Photoshop much?
 
2013-01-01 09:14:03 PM  

Fissile: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

===============

Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.


Here in Georgia, Police officers routine prosecute their own cases in traffic courts.  In fact, in Atlanta's Dekalb County, their traffic court only got prosecutors assigned permanently in the last few years.

Oh--and Magistrate Court judges do not have to be lawyers here.  And yeah--when they're not, you know...
 
2013-01-01 09:14:05 PM  

Dr.Zom: Police Chief Mario Audit.

so...many...bad...puns...flooding brain...


Go on... I'll help.

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YEAAAHHHHHHH
 
2013-01-01 09:14:44 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.

Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.

Sense, you make none.

Whatever. You child molester. Go back to wanking it to the kiddie porn that the police haven't found yet.


Technically they're adolescents.
 
2013-01-01 09:18:27 PM  
Obligatory article from the onion...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vigilante-cop-acts-as-judge-jury-pro s ecuting-attor,2128/
 
2013-01-01 09:21:26 PM  

BravadoGT: Fissile: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

===============

Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.

Here in Georgia, Police officers routine prosecute their own cases in traffic courts.  In fact, in Atlanta's Dekalb County, their traffic court only got prosecutors assigned permanently in the last few years.

Oh--and Magistrate Court judges do not have to be lawyers here.  And yeah--when they're not, you know...


Same in MA on both counts, technically the only qualifications to become a magistrate are political connections.
 
2013-01-01 09:24:36 PM  

Fissile: Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.


That's a judge, though. A lot of places, especially for lower courts, do not have a requirement that the judge have a legal background.

Just never heard of the cop also acting as prosecutor. Seems to me that would be a conflict of interest.
 
2013-01-01 09:24:55 PM  
^required
 
2013-01-01 09:24:57 PM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7512450/81618586#c81618586" target="_blank">sanngar</a>:</b> <i>Obligatory article from the onion...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vigilante-cop-acts-as-judge-jury-pro s ecuting-attor,2128/</i>

Damnit! It didn't post right. Here it is again.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vigilante-cop-acts-as-judge-jury-pro s ecuting-attor,2128/
 
2013-01-01 09:26:46 PM  

lewismarktwo: I just wanted to express that I thought the new Dredd movie didn't suck at all.


Agreed.
 
2013-01-01 09:28:37 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Fissile: Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.

That's a judge, though. A lot of places, especially for lower courts, do not have a requirement that the judge have a legal background.

Just never heard of the cop also acting as prosecutor. Seems to me that would be a conflict of interest.


Two sides of the same coin really. Prosecutors exist to convict those charged with crimes, not ensure justice.
 
2013-01-01 09:28:38 PM  
Link

Relevant Onion Article.
 
2013-01-01 09:30:29 PM  
Add New Mexico to the list of places where you can be elected as a magistrate with no legal background. You only need to have a HS diploma (and I saw a flyer for one candidate that did list his education as the local High School, with nothing beyond that).

Oh, and you don't have to be an attorney to be appointed to the US Supreme Court either, though I doubt somebody without that background would get through a confirmation hearing.
 
2013-01-01 09:34:40 PM  

gblive: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

That's nothing. In the South the cop would act as the prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner.


You've never lived anywhere but your mothers basement have you..
 
2013-01-01 09:58:49 PM  

Snort: It's like they needed a system of checking the accounts and making sure they were correct. If only there was a word for it.


Money?
 
2013-01-01 10:08:15 PM  

dofus: What do you want to bet Dalton Police Chief Mario Audit has a child or niece/nephew that needs a job?


You think?

thenewmissus: I got the impression that this situation was maybe retaliation for something or they really wanted to just get rid of this person. May or may not have been pension related. I would think that she could maybe sue for malicious prosecution although IANAL. For "prosecution" to bring this up without even determining if there had been a crime is very sloppy work indeed. If I were her, I would at least sue for backpay, legal fees and punitive.


If there was one change I'd make, is a Judge should be able to toss the prosecutor in the clink for wasting the courts time. And tell cops that are known to lie or keep bad records that their testimony is no good here.
 
2013-01-01 10:08:44 PM  
Did the accuser look sort of like Wilbur from Mr. Ed? Sound a little like Scrooge McDuck? Did he flip a coin onto its edge at the start of the day?
 
2013-01-01 10:09:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

It seems like there's a phrase we use in court in this country, something about being innocent until proven guilty. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE IT. Because cretins like Bizarreman want to presume that everyone's done something and just not been caught before now.


What, do you think you're Greek or something?

edom2012.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-01 10:35:29 PM  
YouSirAreAMaroon:

 "Two sides of the same coin really. Prosecutors exist to convict those charged with crimes, not ensure justice."

Believe it or not, DAs have reason to only prosecute people that they believe are actually guilty.

Can't speak to the motivations of the incompetent police chief in TFA.
 
2013-01-01 10:55:04 PM  
We are quickly approaching the point where even video can not be trusted.

I call for 3rd party encryption keys on surveillance videos to be embedded in the video so that any change negates the video.
 
2013-01-01 11:28:44 PM  

o'really: Believe it or not, DAs have reason to only prosecute people that they believe are actually guilty.


No they don't. At best, they have reason to only prosecute people they believe they can convict, which is entirely different.
 
2013-01-01 11:31:42 PM  
Remember kiddies, if you hang them you can kill all the goblins involved in this for a couple of bucks. Rope is reusable. Be financially responsible, demand recyclable death
 
2013-01-01 11:35:47 PM  
Any accounts these pricks are responsible for?
 
2013-01-01 11:43:16 PM  

lewismarktwo: I just wanted to express that I thought the new Dredd movie didn't suck at all.



No, it didn't. I had serious doubts until I eventually gave in and watched it. Twice.
 
2013-01-02 12:24:47 AM  

Silly Jesus: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

Ever seen a warrant? The cop is who signs the line that says Prosecutor.


Prosecutors (ideally)put a lot of bad people away. Those people, some of them, might even hold a grudge. Guess who's in charge of keeping the prosecutor safe?

Hand, Glove.
 
2013-01-02 12:42:18 AM  

Fissile: it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges


Not sure about NJ, but we still have that farking shiat here in NY.
 
2013-01-02 12:46:00 AM  
The clerk's only statement was:
"I wasn't even supposed to work that day!"
 
2013-01-02 12:51:56 AM  

bulldg4life: It's either a pension thing or a get rid of a democrat thing

*checks article*

30 years and close to retirement

Pension it is


Nah.  Never attribute to malice what is easily explained by stupidity.  The police chief sent a non-attorney to prosecute this case, and admitted that he never counted the money to see if any was missing.  Nobody that stupid knows what a pension is.
 
2013-01-02 01:03:23 AM  

BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.


The problem is that they couldn't find any missing money, which means we are clearly dealing with a master criminal who steals $100 bills and replaces them with different $100 bills to cover her tracks.
 
2013-01-02 01:26:43 AM  
People, people, people, you are over thinking this. It's New Hampshire for fark sake not some sophisticated metropolitan municipality. There's only 3 working city's office. Heck, each year they get audited so put away your she's been taking for years theology and put it where the sun don't shine.

Fact is she's damn close to retirement age (about a year).

Police Chief seen one too many CSI shows and the LT, watched Perry Mason once or twice in the last 40 years. City has insurance for for being sued. Let York take it to court and beat the snot out of them. Of course, they'll offer a settlement cause no city manager wants to deal with the FUBAR, right?
 
2013-01-02 02:40:23 AM  

lewismarktwo: I just wanted to express that I thought the new Dredd movie didn't suck at all.


It was pretty damn good, Dredd as he ought to be. If it had the 1995 version's budget it would have been nigh-on perfect.
 
2013-01-02 02:48:21 AM  
More than three decades = fourteen years, eh subby?
 
2013-01-02 03:14:05 AM  

Abacus9: More than three decades = fourteen years, eh subby?



Good catch.
York, an elected town officer with more than three decades on the job
A Dalton tax collector and deputy town clerk who worked with York for 14 years

The other 16+ may have had blemishes.

/not subby
//no, wait, I am subby.
 
2013-01-02 03:17:57 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


i4.ytimg.com

I'm sure the shire reeve can explain it to you.
 
2013-01-02 05:49:27 AM  
"Under that logic, you're a child molester."

Fellas, fellas. Let's just agree: we are all child molesters until we go to trial with video "evidence" and prosecuted by people with funny names like Audit or Harass or Gotcha...where we may (or may not) be found innocent.
 
2013-01-02 06:56:00 AM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.


But he hasn't proved that he isn't one. Therefore, he is one.
 
2013-01-02 07:59:38 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?

She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.


So, let me get this straight : you can work 30 years somewhere, contribute to the pension funds all those years, and then lose everything because you were fired one week before retirement ? How is that fair ?

America, what a country !
 
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