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(The Union Leader)   Fourteen years on the job without a blemish, Town Clerk is put on trial by the Chief of Police for stealing a hundred dollars. Of course, he didn't bother to check whether the money was actually missing   (unionleader.com) divider line 109
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2013-01-01 05:07:37 PM  
FTA: His department lieutenant, Chris St. Cyr -- who is not an attorney -- served as prosecutor.

The department's case appeared to be in trouble almost from the outset.


No shiat.
 
2013-01-01 06:30:25 PM  
Congressional level of incompetence...Without the Congress part.
 
2013-01-01 06:49:48 PM  
This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?
 
2013-01-01 07:13:22 PM  

Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?


She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.
 
2013-01-01 07:20:34 PM  
What do you want to bet Dalton Police Chief Mario Audit has a child or niece/nephew that needs a job?
 
2013-01-01 07:21:08 PM  
It's either a pension thing or a get rid of a democrat thing

*checks article*

30 years and close to retirement

Pension it is
 
2013-01-01 07:21:11 PM  
Something tells me it was a recently installed camera that got that surveillance.
 
2013-01-01 07:21:30 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?

She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.


Well, we have to start cutting these golderned entitlements somewhere.
 
2013-01-01 07:21:35 PM  
At least they didn't check if she weighed the same as a duck.
 
2013-01-01 07:22:09 PM  
I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?
 
2013-01-01 07:24:17 PM  
Police Chief Mario Audit.

so...many...bad...puns...flooding brain...
 
2013-01-01 07:24:26 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


Poorly.
 
2013-01-01 07:24:43 PM  
to lazy to cheah the state -- and drunk -- I wanna send a damn drunkin Ffffuuu to those involved
 
2013-01-01 07:24:49 PM  
It's like they needed a system of checking the accounts and making sure they were correct. If only there was a word for it.
 
2013-01-01 07:25:39 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


cdn.pastemagazine.com
 
2013-01-01 07:26:01 PM  

Snort: It's like they needed a system of checking the accounts and making sure they were correct. If only there was a word for it.


Amounting?
 
2013-01-01 07:28:07 PM  
what, no rage from Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton? why not?
hope she gets to sue the wallet out of Chief of Dicks for defamation of character or something else that sounds really impressive.
 
2013-01-01 07:28:10 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


That's nothing. In the South the cop would act as the prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner.
 
2013-01-01 07:28:35 PM  
A fund should be set up to pursue every legal action against the official who brought up these charges in order to destroy this individual in every single way a human can be destroyed in court.
 
2013-01-01 07:28:55 PM  
What's this 14 years shiat?

Cop math?

"It was not clear late Monday whether York, an elected town officer with more than three decades on the job, would return as Dalton's clerk or retire. She has been on leave since being charged."
 
2013-01-01 07:28:58 PM  
Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

At the same time, going from video to trial without actually investigating whether there was any money truly missing from the cash drawer and attempting to find out what the video meant is gross incompetence.

Video doesn't lie, but it doesn't necessarily tell the whole story.
 
2013-01-01 07:29:11 PM  
www.wearysloth.com
 
2013-01-01 07:29:14 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


I hope she sues the asses off those dumbfarks.
 
2013-01-01 07:31:53 PM  

Seasons I'v Withered: Snort: It's like they needed a system of checking the accounts and making sure they were correct. If only there was a word for it.

Amounting?


Maybe. Or a something the IRS does to check for missing money.
 
2013-01-01 07:32:25 PM  

BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.


Under that logic, you're a child molester.
 
2013-01-01 07:36:59 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.


No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.
 
2013-01-01 07:37:51 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.


It seems like there's a phrase we use in court in this country, something about being innocent until proven guilty. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE IT. Because cretins like Bizarreman want to presume that everyone's done something and just not been caught before now.
 
2013-01-01 07:37:53 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.


Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.
 
2013-01-01 07:38:53 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


This.

And where was the city council in all this? And how do you bring such charges in a municipal court. And who's the complaintant. This goes beyond qualified immunity - sue everybody, including the judge for not dismissing the complaint.
 
2013-01-01 07:38:54 PM  

gblive: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

That's nothing. In the South the cop would act as the prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner.


Citation
 
2013-01-01 07:39:40 PM  
Clearly seems that they were scrutinizing her every move, looking for anything they could get on her. Small-town New Hampshire.
 
2013-01-01 07:40:49 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


Ever seen a warrant? The cop is who signs the line that says Prosecutor.
 
2013-01-01 07:42:24 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.


He might be a child molester, he might not be a child molester, but there seems to be an awful lot of talk about him and child molesting, so I'm just gonna go ahead and assume that he is, indeed, a child molester. Why be half-safe?
 
2013-01-01 07:42:55 PM  

Glancing Blow: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

This.

And where was the city council in all this? And how do you bring such charges in a municipal court. And who's the complaintant. This goes beyond qualified immunity - sue everybody, including the judge for not dismissing the complaint.


I haven't bothered to check but this is probably a one room courthouse housed in the city hall with a folding chair city council. And the police chief with his deputy/prosecuted are 50% of the police force. Also the only type of place where stealing 100 dollars from the coffers would be considered scandalous.
 
2013-01-01 07:43:19 PM  
I guess that's what he gets for boning the police chief's wife.
 
2013-01-01 07:45:29 PM  

DubtodaIll: Glancing Blow: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

This.

And where was the city council in all this? And how do you bring such charges in a municipal court. And who's the complaintant. This goes beyond qualified immunity - sue everybody, including the judge for not dismissing the complaint.

I haven't bothered to check but this is probably a one room courthouse housed in the city hall with a folding chair city council. And the police chief with his deputy/prosecuted are 50% of the police force. Also the only type of place where stealing 100 dollars from the coffers would be considered scandalous.


Yes Yoda, I see your wisdom.
 
2013-01-01 07:46:50 PM  

Glancing Blow: DubtodaIll: Glancing Blow: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

This.

And where was the city council in all this? And how do you bring such charges in a municipal court. And who's the complaintant. This goes beyond qualified immunity - sue everybody, including the judge for not dismissing the complaint.

I haven't bothered to check but this is probably a one room courthouse housed in the city hall with a folding chair city council. And the police chief with his deputy/prosecuted are 50% of the police force. Also the only type of place where stealing 100 dollars from the coffers would be considered scandalous.

Yes Yoda, I see your wisdom.


I don't get it.
 
2013-01-01 07:47:18 PM  
"Audit admitted that he had not bothered to find out whether any money was actually missing from the town funds."

If only there were a common process for doing just that.
 
2013-01-01 07:47:39 PM  
Fourteen years without a blemish?
She was probably stealing money on a regular basis and spending it on skin cream.
 
2013-01-01 07:48:06 PM  

DubtodaIll: Glancing Blow: DubtodaIll: Glancing Blow: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

This.

And where was the city council in all this? And how do you bring such charges in a municipal court. And who's the complaintant. This goes beyond qualified immunity - sue everybody, including the judge for not dismissing the complaint.

I haven't bothered to check but this is probably a one room courthouse housed in the city hall with a folding chair city council. And the police chief with his deputy/prosecuted are 50% of the police force. Also the only type of place where stealing 100 dollars from the coffers would be considered scandalous.

Yes Yoda, I see your wisdom.

I don't get it.


Just expressing thanks for someone putting things in perspective.
 
2013-01-01 07:49:17 PM  

Insatiable Jesus: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

cdn.pastemagazine.com


picturescrazy: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?
Poorly.



Oh, come on! The man was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Actor!
and won the Razzie for Worst Actor of the Century
 
2013-01-01 07:50:49 PM  
I'll just leave this here: Corpus delicti
 
2013-01-01 07:50:51 PM  
Yeah but yoda? I'll admit I reread that and it's a little funky but it's not completely bass ackwards.
 
2013-01-01 07:56:14 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?

She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.


Hard not to come to the conclusion that someone was looking to save a little pension money by trumping up a charge. So, when does the clerk sue the town for wrongful arrest, prosecutorial misconduct, etc., etc., to pad that pension money with some sweet punitive cash?
 
2013-01-01 08:00:50 PM  
Good thing they don't know about Uncle Billy over in Bedford Falls.
 
2013-01-01 08:05:16 PM  
Where are all the "of course the clerk is guilty, everyone in government is a crook" folks?
 
2013-01-01 08:05:54 PM  
Counter sue for $1000 and put the whole town out of business permanently.

Small town problems
 
2013-01-01 08:06:47 PM  

DubtodaIll: Glancing Blow: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

This.

And where was the city council in all this? And how do you bring such charges in a municipal court. And who's the complaintant. This goes beyond qualified immunity - sue everybody, including the judge for not dismissing the complaint.

I haven't bothered to check but this is probably a one room courthouse housed in the city hall with a folding chair city council. And the police chief with his deputy/prosecuted are 50% of the police force. Also the only type of place where stealing 100 dollars from the coffers would be considered scandalous.


The Chief and his deputy are 50% of the police force.  According to the Dalton NH (pop. 979) Town Report the Police budget for 2011 was only $41,700, with 4 total officers, and only 301 total calls all year.

http://www.townofdalton.com/files/Download/2011-Town-ReportUpdate.pd f
 
xcv
2013-01-01 08:09:08 PM  

Krieghund: Insatiable Jesus: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

[cdn.pastemagazine.com image 510x383]

picturescrazy: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?
Poorly.


Oh, come on! The man was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Actor!
and won the Razzie for Worst Actor of the Century



2000ad.files.wordpress.com

That's Remake Dredd I believe.
 
2013-01-01 08:14:59 PM  
'Audit'

Heh.
 
2013-01-01 08:15:21 PM  
If you think about it, she could probably bankrupt the town with litigation.
 
2013-01-01 08:18:00 PM  

gblive: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

That's nothing. In the South the cop would act as the prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner.


But who would be the bailiff?
 
gja
2013-01-01 08:32:53 PM  
"That's some fine police work there, Lou"

Seriously, I hope she extracts her pound of flesh from them. And I really hope these mindless fools are relieved of their posts and denied further employment in LE. They do nothing but give their occupations unwanted and unneeded black eyes.
 
2013-01-01 08:38:56 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


===============

Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.
 
2013-01-01 08:48:46 PM  

dofus: What do you want to bet Dalton Police Chief Mario Audit has a child or niece/nephew that needs a job?


Well, there might be slots open for Police Chief and Lieutenant pretty soon.

/Here's hoping.
 
2013-01-01 08:48:48 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.

Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.


I would like to know why he does respond to the accusations that he raped and murdered a girl in 1990.
 
2013-01-01 08:53:37 PM  
I just wanted to express that I thought the new Dredd movie didn't suck at all.
 
2013-01-01 08:56:06 PM  
Nothing about this made any sense.
i0.kym-cdn.com
 
2013-01-01 08:59:16 PM  

FormlessOne: Bathia_Mapes: Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?

She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.

Hard not to come to the conclusion that someone was looking to save a little pension money by trumping up a charge. So, when does the clerk sue the town for wrongful arrest, prosecutorial misconduct, etc., etc., to pad that pension money with some sweet punitive cash?


I got the impression that this situation was maybe retaliation for something or they really wanted to just get rid of this person. May or may not have been pension related. I would think that she could maybe sue for malicious prosecution although IANAL. For "prosecution" to bring this up without even determining if there had been a crime is very sloppy work indeed. If I were her, I would at least sue for backpay, legal fees and punitive.
 
2013-01-01 09:00:07 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.

Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.


Sense, you make none.
 
2013-01-01 09:02:23 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.

Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.

Sense, you make none.


Whatever. You child molester. Go back to wanking it to the kiddie porn that the police haven't found yet.
 
2013-01-01 09:05:20 PM  

dofus: What do you want to bet Dalton Police Chief Mario Audit has a child or niece/nephew that needs a job?


So Audit didn't audit?
 
2013-01-01 09:11:31 PM  

Fissile: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

===============

Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.




And the flip side is that a full third of our government can only be occupied by a small segment of society.
 
2013-01-01 09:12:34 PM  

BizarreMan: Video doesn't lie, but it doesn't necessarily tell the whole story.


www.goodlightscraps.com

/Photoshop much?
 
2013-01-01 09:14:03 PM  

Fissile: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

===============

Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.


Here in Georgia, Police officers routine prosecute their own cases in traffic courts.  In fact, in Atlanta's Dekalb County, their traffic court only got prosecutors assigned permanently in the last few years.

Oh--and Magistrate Court judges do not have to be lawyers here.  And yeah--when they're not, you know...
 
2013-01-01 09:14:05 PM  

Dr.Zom: Police Chief Mario Audit.

so...many...bad...puns...flooding brain...


Go on... I'll help.

(•_•)

( •_•)>⌐■-■

(⌐■_■)

YEAAAHHHHHHH
 
2013-01-01 09:14:44 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.

Not necessarily. He just hasn't been caught yet.

Sense, you make none.

Whatever. You child molester. Go back to wanking it to the kiddie porn that the police haven't found yet.


Technically they're adolescents.
 
2013-01-01 09:18:27 PM  
Obligatory article from the onion...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vigilante-cop-acts-as-judge-jury-pro s ecuting-attor,2128/
 
2013-01-01 09:21:26 PM  

BravadoGT: Fissile: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

===============

Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.

Here in Georgia, Police officers routine prosecute their own cases in traffic courts.  In fact, in Atlanta's Dekalb County, their traffic court only got prosecutors assigned permanently in the last few years.

Oh--and Magistrate Court judges do not have to be lawyers here.  And yeah--when they're not, you know...


Same in MA on both counts, technically the only qualifications to become a magistrate are political connections.
 
2013-01-01 09:24:36 PM  

Fissile: Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.


That's a judge, though. A lot of places, especially for lower courts, do not have a requirement that the judge have a legal background.

Just never heard of the cop also acting as prosecutor. Seems to me that would be a conflict of interest.
 
2013-01-01 09:24:55 PM  
^required
 
2013-01-01 09:24:57 PM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7512450/81618586#c81618586" target="_blank">sanngar</a>:</b> <i>Obligatory article from the onion...

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vigilante-cop-acts-as-judge-jury-pro s ecuting-attor,2128/</i>

Damnit! It didn't post right. Here it is again.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/vigilante-cop-acts-as-judge-jury-pro s ecuting-attor,2128/
 
2013-01-01 09:26:46 PM  

lewismarktwo: I just wanted to express that I thought the new Dredd movie didn't suck at all.


Agreed.
 
2013-01-01 09:28:37 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: Fissile: Once upon a time, I lived in a small town in New Jersey were the municipal court judge was not a lawyer....he'd never been to law school, I don't think he was a college grad either. This township judge was a "lay judge", and it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges. Some time ago state laws were changed, and municipal judges were required to be members of the state bar, but sitting lay judges were allowed to continue. When I went up in front of this guy (speeding ticket), he must have been 80 years old. Nice, uh? You can be sentenced to a year in jail by a guy without a high school diploma, to say nothing of actually having studied law.

That's a judge, though. A lot of places, especially for lower courts, do not have a requirement that the judge have a legal background.

Just never heard of the cop also acting as prosecutor. Seems to me that would be a conflict of interest.


Two sides of the same coin really. Prosecutors exist to convict those charged with crimes, not ensure justice.
 
2013-01-01 09:28:38 PM  
Link

Relevant Onion Article.
 
2013-01-01 09:30:29 PM  
Add New Mexico to the list of places where you can be elected as a magistrate with no legal background. You only need to have a HS diploma (and I saw a flyer for one candidate that did list his education as the local High School, with nothing beyond that).

Oh, and you don't have to be an attorney to be appointed to the US Supreme Court either, though I doubt somebody without that background would get through a confirmation hearing.
 
2013-01-01 09:34:40 PM  

gblive: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

That's nothing. In the South the cop would act as the prosecutor, judge, jury, and executioner.


You've never lived anywhere but your mothers basement have you..
 
2013-01-01 09:58:49 PM  

Snort: It's like they needed a system of checking the accounts and making sure they were correct. If only there was a word for it.


Money?
 
2013-01-01 10:08:15 PM  

dofus: What do you want to bet Dalton Police Chief Mario Audit has a child or niece/nephew that needs a job?


You think?

thenewmissus: I got the impression that this situation was maybe retaliation for something or they really wanted to just get rid of this person. May or may not have been pension related. I would think that she could maybe sue for malicious prosecution although IANAL. For "prosecution" to bring this up without even determining if there had been a crime is very sloppy work indeed. If I were her, I would at least sue for backpay, legal fees and punitive.


If there was one change I'd make, is a Judge should be able to toss the prosecutor in the clink for wasting the courts time. And tell cops that are known to lie or keep bad records that their testimony is no good here.
 
2013-01-01 10:08:44 PM  
Did the accuser look sort of like Wilbur from Mr. Ed? Sound a little like Scrooge McDuck? Did he flip a coin onto its edge at the start of the day?
 
2013-01-01 10:09:56 PM  

Gyrfalcon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

It seems like there's a phrase we use in court in this country, something about being innocent until proven guilty. THIS IS WHY WE HAVE IT. Because cretins like Bizarreman want to presume that everyone's done something and just not been caught before now.


What, do you think you're Greek or something?

edom2012.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-01 10:35:29 PM  
YouSirAreAMaroon:

 "Two sides of the same coin really. Prosecutors exist to convict those charged with crimes, not ensure justice."

Believe it or not, DAs have reason to only prosecute people that they believe are actually guilty.

Can't speak to the motivations of the incompetent police chief in TFA.
 
2013-01-01 10:55:04 PM  
We are quickly approaching the point where even video can not be trusted.

I call for 3rd party encryption keys on surveillance videos to be embedded in the video so that any change negates the video.
 
2013-01-01 11:28:44 PM  

o'really: Believe it or not, DAs have reason to only prosecute people that they believe are actually guilty.


No they don't. At best, they have reason to only prosecute people they believe they can convict, which is entirely different.
 
2013-01-01 11:31:42 PM  
Remember kiddies, if you hang them you can kill all the goblins involved in this for a couple of bucks. Rope is reusable. Be financially responsible, demand recyclable death
 
2013-01-01 11:35:47 PM  
Any accounts these pricks are responsible for?
 
2013-01-01 11:43:16 PM  

lewismarktwo: I just wanted to express that I thought the new Dredd movie didn't suck at all.



No, it didn't. I had serious doubts until I eventually gave in and watched it. Twice.
 
2013-01-02 12:24:47 AM  

Silly Jesus: Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?

Ever seen a warrant? The cop is who signs the line that says Prosecutor.


Prosecutors (ideally)put a lot of bad people away. Those people, some of them, might even hold a grudge. Guess who's in charge of keeping the prosecutor safe?

Hand, Glove.
 
2013-01-02 12:42:18 AM  

Fissile: it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges


Not sure about NJ, but we still have that farking shiat here in NY.
 
2013-01-02 12:46:00 AM  
The clerk's only statement was:
"I wasn't even supposed to work that day!"
 
2013-01-02 12:51:56 AM  

bulldg4life: It's either a pension thing or a get rid of a democrat thing

*checks article*

30 years and close to retirement

Pension it is


Nah.  Never attribute to malice what is easily explained by stupidity.  The police chief sent a non-attorney to prosecute this case, and admitted that he never counted the money to see if any was missing.  Nobody that stupid knows what a pension is.
 
2013-01-02 01:03:23 AM  

BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.


The problem is that they couldn't find any missing money, which means we are clearly dealing with a master criminal who steals $100 bills and replaces them with different $100 bills to cover her tracks.
 
2013-01-02 01:26:43 AM  
People, people, people, you are over thinking this. It's New Hampshire for fark sake not some sophisticated metropolitan municipality. There's only 3 working city's office. Heck, each year they get audited so put away your she's been taking for years theology and put it where the sun don't shine.

Fact is she's damn close to retirement age (about a year).

Police Chief seen one too many CSI shows and the LT, watched Perry Mason once or twice in the last 40 years. City has insurance for for being sued. Let York take it to court and beat the snot out of them. Of course, they'll offer a settlement cause no city manager wants to deal with the FUBAR, right?
 
2013-01-02 02:40:23 AM  

lewismarktwo: I just wanted to express that I thought the new Dredd movie didn't suck at all.


It was pretty damn good, Dredd as he ought to be. If it had the 1995 version's budget it would have been nigh-on perfect.
 
2013-01-02 02:48:21 AM  
More than three decades = fourteen years, eh subby?
 
2013-01-02 03:14:05 AM  

Abacus9: More than three decades = fourteen years, eh subby?



Good catch.
York, an elected town officer with more than three decades on the job
A Dalton tax collector and deputy town clerk who worked with York for 14 years

The other 16+ may have had blemishes.

/not subby
//no, wait, I am subby.
 
2013-01-02 03:17:57 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: I'd sue the hell out of them. And how can a cop act as a prosecutor?


i4.ytimg.com

I'm sure the shire reeve can explain it to you.
 
2013-01-02 05:49:27 AM  
"Under that logic, you're a child molester."

Fellas, fellas. Let's just agree: we are all child molesters until we go to trial with video "evidence" and prosecuted by people with funny names like Audit or Harass or Gotcha...where we may (or may not) be found innocent.
 
2013-01-02 06:56:00 AM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a child molester. Good try though.


But he hasn't proved that he isn't one. Therefore, he is one.
 
2013-01-02 07:59:38 AM  

Bathia_Mapes: Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?

She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.


So, let me get this straight : you can work 30 years somewhere, contribute to the pension funds all those years, and then lose everything because you were fired one week before retirement ? How is that fair ?

America, what a country !
 
2013-01-02 08:45:47 AM  
Everybody missed my point.

How many stories have you read in your local news where the trusted bookkeeper, office manager, accountant is busted for embezzlement of hundreds of thousands of dollars having been the "perfect"
employee for a very long time. Positing that she must be innocent because she has an unblemished record is complete and utter bullshiat.

The fact that no money was found missing makes her innocent. Not her record.
 
2013-01-02 08:55:11 AM  
Cops who damage reputations and lives like this need to go to prison for whatever length of sentence the accused would have gotten. He absolutely should forfeit his right to a badge and a gun.
 
2013-01-02 10:01:44 AM  

Isildur: Fissile: it was common years ago for town councils to appoint lay judges

Not sure about NJ, but we still have that farking shiat here in NY.


================

No new lay judges can be appointed in New Jersey, although sitting lay judges are "grandfathered". There a few of these fossils still around, but I can't imagine they'll be here much longer.

The reason for getting rid of lay judges had nothing to do with justice and everything to do with money. The primary function of NJ Municipal Courts is revenue generation. A large percentage of lay judges were so incompetent that even a lawyer with a degree from Hollywood Upstairs Law School could easily win on appeal. The towns were losing money, which is why they got rid of lay judges.
 
2013-01-02 10:46:19 AM  

padraig: So, let me get this straight : you can work 30 years somewhere, contribute to the pension funds all those years, and then lose everything because you were fired one week before retirement ? How is that fair ?

America, what a country !


Not exactly / usually. Most places have levels of pensions based on your years of service. Odds are for there it is 30 years for the *full* pension, with a sliding percentage down for years beneath that.

BizarreMan: Everybody missed my point.

How many stories have you read in your local news where the trusted bookkeeper, office manager, accountant is busted for embezzlement of hundreds of thousands of dollars having been the "perfect"
employee for a very long time. Positing that she must be innocent because she has an unblemished record is complete and utter bullshiat.

The fact that no money was found missing makes her innocent. Not her record.


Whatever. Child molester.
 
2013-01-02 02:02:07 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: Satanic_Hamster: BizarreMan: Fourteen years without a blemish doesn't necessarily mean she's innocent. It might just mean she hadn't been caught yet.

Under that logic, you're a child molester.

No, it means he might be a football coach. Good try though.

FIFY

 
2013-01-02 07:38:29 PM  

JerkyMeat: A fund should be set up to pursue every legal action against the official who brought up these charges in order to destroy this individual in every single way a human can be destroyed in court.


And even in some ways which are essentially impossible.
 
2013-01-02 11:31:55 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: padraig: So, let me get this straight : you can work 30 years somewhere, contribute to the pension funds all those years, and then lose everything because you were fired one week before retirement ? How is that fair ?

America, what a country !

Not exactly / usually. Most places have levels of pensions based on your years of service. Odds are for there it is 30 years for the *full* pension, with a sliding percentage down for years beneath that.


Most states don't have laws covering pension forfeiture at all, including NH. The ones that do generally require it to be only after a felony directly related to your public office, although some are "any crime". ($100 is not a felony, either.)

Something tells me this woman will own the town when the lawsuits are settled, and the keystone kops will be out on their arse.
 
2013-01-03 12:37:25 AM  

padraig: Bathia_Mapes: Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?

She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.

So, let me get this straight : you can work 30 years somewhere, contribute to the pension funds all those years, and then lose everything because you were fired one week before retirement ? How is that fair ?

America, what a country !


Happened to my grandmother when I was six.  I haven't trusted institutions since then.
 
2013-01-03 04:31:58 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: padraig: Bathia_Mapes: Lukeonia1: This clerk, was she close to retirement? With a pension, perhaps?

She's worked there for over 30 years, so it's probably a safe bet to say she was.

So, let me get this straight : you can work 30 years somewhere, contribute to the pension funds all those years, and then lose everything because you were fired one week before retirement ? How is that fair ?

America, what a country !

Happened to my grandmother when I was six.  I haven't trusted institutions since then.


Just what are you expecting when this is taught in "Business College"?
 
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