stucka: ThunderPelvis: Unity finally broke my loyalty to Ubuntu, and, consequently, I haven't been using linux much in the last 6 months or so. Mint looks really good, though, so I'm going to give it a spin.This might work for you:sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktopxubuntu flies on my vintage 2005 laptop.I think someone at Ubuntu's trying to make things -too- friendly. Clean installs of the newest versions install a "guest account," and there's no clear or easy way to remove the thing. Strikes me as "Fresh version of Linux, now with Microsoft Bob!"
StoPPeRmobile: "Get use to disappointment."You sound edumacated.
phlatulence: Apart from serving files and DB what does Linux actually do?
skinink: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: skinink: "Linux is just as easy to install, configure and use as Windows. Period."And which distros out of the hundreds out there are easy to install?Ubuntu, Open SUSE, Mint. Debian isn't any harder to install than Windows XP. I know you're yanking my chain, but we have this thing called the Internet where it's pretty easy to find out which distros are best for new Linux users.Ah yes, the linux attitude I talked of earlier.
Gonz: If you know what you're doing with a computer, Linux (or BSD) is what you already use.
b0rscht: involving many kilolines of code that produce petabytes of data on supercomputers (that all run Linux)
DjangoStonereaver: That was the year that Canonical intruduced Unity, which completely fractured the already splinteredworld of Linux graphical interfaces.
t3knomanser: i have issues
t3knomanser: omeganuepsilon: As it is, the system emulating an actual file cabinetNo it isn't. A filing cabinet does not allow you to nest folders to an arbitrary depth. The filesystem doesn't emulate anything- it's a tree datastructure that calls its nodes and leaves things that sound sort of like what we're familiar with.
Benni K Rok: I've got a desktop I'd like to get up and running again, but...When I try to install Windows 7, the external USB DVD I'm using can't find drivers for the player that the Windows 7 disk is in.When I try to install Mint Linux via USB, I get all kinds of errors.I don't try to install OSX because it's not a hackintosh.
t3knomanser: VMS. It was here before you, and it will be here long after you.
Honest Bender: Can I run all of my games natively? No? Then it's still not my year to switch.I love linux, don't get me wrong. I work with hundreds of linux servers every day. Damn fine OS. But when I'm at home... gots to be the windows. Games, man... games.
EngineerAU: Linux advocates would do well for their cause if they'd take a few days off to read one of Dale Carnegie's books.
Red_Fox: Access to MULTIPLE "supercomputers" you are SO full of shiat.
Phaeon: Sent from my brand new, pretty darn cool Chromebook. I believe the chrome OS is a Linux kernel, IIRC
lordargent: MrEricSir: Open source != zero cost to develop and test. Volunteers are great, but for the most part you get what you pay for. Just look at all the low quality bugs on Launchpad, or all the "expired" bugs where testers never bothered to respond to questions.If nobody is willing to test/respond to inquiries about a bug, then is that bug really of big importance?IE, if you ran into a bug that affected you, and someone responded to you asking for details, and you just ignore them, then what gives? If the person that submitted the bug doesn't even care enough to respond then fark that bug.Like One Hundred Papercuts.From my personal experience, I used Windows OSes for around 20 years (3.11 was released in 1993), and in Ubuntu 10.04, I finally have an OS that doesn't annoy me to use it. Sure there are some issues, but those issues are dwarfed by all of the crazy shiat I encountered over the years (and still encounter) on windows OSes.// unfortunately, versions of Ubuntu newer than 10.04 bring back that annoyance factor. I don't know what I'm going to do when 10.04 goes out of the support window :(
You can make Linux pointy clicky but it does still require a learning curve to some extent. So does Windows, it's just that everyone's used it and knows where the control panel is.
3) Supeior securi... Sorry couldn't finish that it's too damn funny. Linux security may be almost on a par with XP. It's certainly better than Windows 95, but to suggest that Linux is more secure than Vista/7/8 is only to demonstrate that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
Windows Security StructureLinux Security StructureThis house can be viewed with this link.
If everyone switched to Linux, what would all the current Linux users switch to?
GeneralJim: Mr. Eugenides: 3) Supeior securi... Sorry couldn't finish that it's too damn funny. Linux security may be almost on a par with XP. It's certainly better than Windows 95, but to suggest that Linux is more secure than Vista/7/8 is only to demonstrate that you don't know what the hell you're talking about.Oh, so YOU know nothing about security.... Well, let me see if I can find you some pictures to illustrate....[farm9.static.flickr.com image 500x333]Windows Security Structure[www.zdistrict.com image 500x333]Linux Security StructureThis house can be viewed with this link.
Mr. Eugenides: Windows also has in Windows Update, a consistent stable platform for determining vulnerabilities and delivering updates to computers including computers running out of date software. Microsoft will still release a patch for XP if the vulnerability is critical where the Linux community will say "well, that's 2 versions old, you can't expect that to be secure."
WhippingBoy: If everyone switched to Linux, what would all the current Linux users switch to?
GeneralJim: why not switch to something much better?
Foobar2000 is just one example, there are lots of tools aimed at the power user that are built for Windows but just don't seem to exist on Linux.Users want to accomplish task "A" which requires steps 1, 2 and 3. Linux almost certainly has programs to do steps 1, 2 and 3, but nothing to tie them together in a polished package. That's the problem. When users go searching for how to do "A" on Linux they find nothing, because there is no one program to do it.
Let me tell you what I know about security.Last year, there were about as many Linux OS vulnerabilities as there were Windows OS vulnerabilities. You can go to CERT and look at the data yourself if you don't belive me. This despite the fact that the number of people targeting Windows probably outnumbers the people targeting Linux by 1000 to 1.Windows also has in Windows Update, a consistent stable platform for determining vulnerabilities and delivering updates to computers including computers running out of date software. Microsoft will still release a patch for XP if the vulnerability is critical where the Linux community will say "well, that's 2 versions old, you can't expect that to be secure."You may personally have a secure linux system, but for most users, who install the OS and forget, Windows is a far better choice.
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