jonny_q: Tree-based structure is straightforward.
jonny_q: Or do you just wanna make that more free-form?
skinink: "Linux is just as easy to install, configure and use as Windows. Period."And which distros out of the hundreds out there are easy to install?
Quantumbunny: Configuration is also totally worthless in linux. Every few years I try, and for some reason there are STILL files, whether for keyboard or mouse, or monitor resolutions, or who knows what they want to me manually edit. PISS OFF. As a user, I want point and click, and a pretty interface... and I'm a software developer. Good luck convincing end users they want less than that.
Saners: What a shiat list. So much that 1,4 and 5 are all the same thing; they each assume that you MUST switch operating systems this year. People still run Windows XP so the fact that Windows 8 just came out is no reason to switch to linux and if you already own a copy of Windows or OSX then Linux being free is pointless to mention.
swahnhennessy: It's never going to be The Year of Linux at the rate they're going.I use Ubuntu. I like it fine. But here's the thing - while I was a fairly adept Windows user, Linux is mostly over my head. Many of the simplest things involve me opening the terminal and learning new commands. I don't mind too much, but I'm half-a-nerd and I like the spirit of the thing. But it isn't very appealing to the vast majority of casual users. This is exasperated by updates and upgrades that drastically change an OS that you've finally gotten used to, with features just suddenly disappearing. Some of these you can replace, assuming you know what to look for and/or what command to enter.A lot of Linux users look down on Ubuntu or Unity as a dumbed-down version of Linux. That may be so, but they'll need to do a whole lot more dumbing down before they'll ever have an OS that is ready to compete with Microsoft or Apple.
swahnhennessy: This is exasperated by updates and upgrades that drastically change an OS that you've finally gotten used to, with features just suddenly disappearing. Some of these you can replace, assuming you know what to look for and/or what command to enter.
t3knomanser: When trying to find something when you don't know where it is in the tree, it's next to impossible.
t3knomanser: I'm just brainstorming things that are different that could improve how we use our computers in meaningful ways.
RatOmeter: TimeCubeFan: Pro Tools. Virtual Instrument libraries. And pretty much all my music production software. I'd love to try Linus, but if it doesn't run my studio apps then it's pretty much useless to me.Linux audio/studio distribrutionsQuite a few musicians use an audio/studio oriented Linux distro. Even for live performances.
vharshyde: lordargent: Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Linux is just as easy to install, configure and use as Windows.My ubuntu installs go a lot easier than my WIN 7 installs.How are those Wireless drivers treating you.In all seriousness, this hogwash can go die in a hole already. Ubuntu(or any linux distro really) is a hobbyist's toy, a model railroad that you nerds are so desperate to get other people involved with because you're clamoring for even just one person to care half as much as you have about the fact that three weeks after you started your linux install, it's now almost working to 90% of your system's marked capacity. I don't swing my hobby of polishing my testicles with the floor buffers at the mall while Security isn't looking and demand that you do the same, so I see absolutely no reason why I should hear this rubbish every single year. And it is every goddamn year.
lordargent: It's open source, you will find more than enough people who want to do QA.
TimeCubeFan: Pro Tools. Virtual Instrument libraries. And pretty much all my music production software. I'd love to try Linus, but if it doesn't run my studio apps then it's pretty much useless to me.
MrEricSir: lordargent: Shuttleworth is trying to make Ubuntu into the next windows, but in doing so is throwing choice and configurability out to the dogs as a result.Every checkbox, every option, every configuration parameter increases the QA load exponentially. Linux fans want bells and whistles, but they also want to pay $0. That's a tough spot for Ubuntu's product team. I'd argue that keeping the options simple is the best way to please the most people.That said, both Windows (up to 7 at least) and OS X have more window management options than Unity.
Gonz: Pokey.Clyde: Not necessarily. As several others have mentioned, games for one are a big reason.Well, that's fine, if you want to use your computer for playing games, like it's a different and expandable console.
Ed Grubermann: The bottom line is none of the software I bought my computers to use runs on Linux. And 90% of it never will.
Mitt Romneys Tax Return: Ed Grubermann: The bottom line is none of the software I bought my computers to use runs on Linux. And 90% of it never will.That's odd, all the software I use on my computers runs on Linux. Maybe you need different software.
numbquil: It's simply not true that Linux users want to pay $0. Many people are willing to pay and do pay for free software. I like the software that the Free Software Foundation makes so much that I donate $10. $120 a year is a small price to pay for great software especially since it is still less money than a copy of Windows would cost.Developers can and do make money by developing free software. It isn't turning anyone into Bill Gates or Steve Jobs but it's possible to make a living. One way is accepting payments from individuals or organizations for developing free software that suits their needs or adding requested features to existing software.It's more than a bunch of nerds who don't want to spend money. Free software is a community and grateful users such as myself who don't have the skills to develop software give back either by donating money or time to improve the quality of the software. Linux users are a diverse crowd and there is no one stereotype that can describe all of us. Go to www.humblebundle.com and you will see that we are willing to pay money for something we want. When given the option to pay what you want for a package of indie games Linux users have paid an average of about $4.00 more than Windows users and almost $3.00 more than Mac users.
narkor: As for Mint - I just went over to their site so I could configure a bootable USB stick (as I'd got the most recent version of Ubuntu and after playing with it for a few minutes decided that I had the same reaction to Unity that everyone else did). The Mint download page is interesting because off the bat there seems to be four varieties of Mint and for the life of me I couldn't figure out which was the most commonly used one. Mate? Cinnamon? (KDE and XFCE I recognized - but the placement on the site seemed to indicate that Mate or Cinnamon were the preferred versions of the distro)So right off the bat - before I've got to the bit where I download and install what seems to be the "New Ubuntu/New Fedora/New Mandrake/New SuSE/New Debian/New RedHat/New Slackware/New Currently Recommended Distro before we all decide we hate it because it was really good when it started and they they borked it up" - I'm provided with a bucket of choices that don't make a lot of sense.The reality is that 95% of the guys I new who were hardcore Linux nerds back in the salad days of the late 90's - when "year of the Linux desktop" kinda seemed possible - are all running Mac OSX now because they got to the stage where they don't give a fark.If Mint is the new "Gateway Distro" and it makes it complicated to figure out which fricking version you should start with - desktop market share ain't going anywhere.
ThunderPelvis: If you can't be bothered to spend 5 minutes with google to figure out which desktop is best for you, then you should go buy that Mac, my friend.
Ed Grubermann: I'm not talking broad categories, like spreadsheets, browsers, etc... I'm talking about very specific programs. They don't exist for Linux and there are no acceptable analogs.
Ed Grubermann: ThunderPelvis: If you can't be bothered to spend 5 minutes with google to figure out which desktop is best for you, then you should go buy that Mac, my friend.Unless you're running a VM farm, or some other specialty distribution, you shouldn't have to look up anything. The problem for most users is that the last thing they want is a choice in the UI. Oh, sure, they want to be able to put their kid's picture on their desktop and set the "You've Got Mail!" sound to a duck farting in a airplane restroom, but that's about it. They just want the software. And that's where Linux fails, and until people get their heads out of their butts and stop forking every frigging project every time two developers can't agree on some nitpicking point, that's where Linus
fluffy2097: ThunderPelvis: If you can't be bothered to spend 5 minutes with google to figure out which desktop is best for you, then you should go buy that Mac, my friend.This is the kind of assholery that is why Linux will never make it to the desktop.Any help you will get from the linux community will be from a high and mighty dickweed that thinks missing manuals, and unclear instructions are what makes linux good.
t3knomanser: I'm just bullshiatting on ideas, but let's be honest: there hasn't been a significant change in operating systems since the GUI.
ThunderPelvis: my mom can use it after it's up and running, and that says a *lot*.
Mitt Romneys Tax Return: skinink: "Linux is just as easy to install, configure and use as Windows. Period."And which distros out of the hundreds out there are easy to install?Ubuntu, Open SUSE, Mint. Debian isn't any harder to install than Windows XP. I know you're yanking my chain, but we have this thing called the Internet where it's pretty easy to find out which distros are best for new Linux users.
fluffy2097: ThunderPelvis: my mom can use it after it's up and running, and that says a *lot*.It says nothing when you have pre-configured a system for someone so that they don't have to do anything except click the Email or web browser or word processor icon. The fact you don't understand that, speaks volumes about your lack of understanding.If you can walk her through repairing it over the phone, I might start to be mildly impressed that you can do what Windows desktop support monkeys do all day every day. Not because of the OS that you're doing it with, but because I imagine you'd probably curse out your own mother before walking her through fixing something.
Dejah: I see that "runs your existing applications" is nowhere in your list.
Honest Bender: Can I run all of my games natively? No? Then it's still not my year to switch.I love linux, don't get me wrong. I work with hundreds of linux servers every day. Damn fine OS. But when I'm at home... gots to be the windows. Games, man... games.
phlatulence: Apart from serving files and DB what does Linux actually do?
jaytkay: They index file names AND contents. Simply type some words into the Search box and you get your relevant files.
omeganuepsilon: I'd love something unique or new, but the file/folder system we have is most efficient for humans to grasp
omeganuepsilon: As it is, the system emulating an actual file cabinet
omeganuepsilon: A novel approach would be a GUI that's either 3D
EngineerAU: Will this be the Year of Linux on the Desktop?[i126.photobucket.com image 198x200](hot like a cpu after recompiling an OS)"Get use to disappointment."
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