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2013-01-01 04:44:13 PM  

Infernalist: DamnYankees: Matt Yglesias  @mattyglesias
Senate GOP is lawful evil, House GOP is chaotic evil.

Does this mean that Obama is a Paladin?


Obama is Chaotic Good. Tries to do great stuff but never afraid to troll the other side (or break with his own side) when the necessity arises.
 
2013-01-01 04:45:22 PM  
"NewportBarGuy

hasty ambush: "


I believe that someone just had their ass handed to them. That would be you, hasty ambush.....

//lolol
 
2013-01-01 04:45:49 PM  

LazarusLong42: Infernalist: DamnYankees: Matt Yglesias  @mattyglesias
Senate GOP is lawful evil, House GOP is chaotic evil.

Does this mean that Obama is a Paladin?

Obama is Chaotic Good. Tries to do great stuff but never afraid to troll the other side (or break with his own side) when the necessity arises.


Biden would fit that same category.
 
2013-01-01 04:49:16 PM  

LazarusLong42: Infernalist: DamnYankees: Matt Yglesias  @mattyglesias
Senate GOP is lawful evil, House GOP is chaotic evil.

Does this mean that Obama is a Paladin?

Obama is Chaotic Good. Tries to do great stuff but never afraid to troll the other side (or break with his own side) when the necessity arises.


If we're rigging up a political alignment chart, the only Lawful Good I can think of is Granny D
 
2013-01-01 04:49:57 PM  

LazarusLong42: Infernalist: DamnYankees: Matt Yglesias  @mattyglesias
Senate GOP is lawful evil, House GOP is chaotic evil.

Does this mean that Obama is a Paladin?

Obama is Chaotic Good. Tries to do great stuff but never afraid to troll the other side (or break with his own side) when the necessity arises.


I disagree, Obama isn't anti-authoritarian enough to be chaotic. neutral-good perhaps. I might call good ol Joe Biden as chaotic-good. Bill Clinton for sure.
 
2013-01-01 04:51:18 PM  

hasty ambush: LazarusLong42: Spending needs to continue in the short-term in order to get the economy back in order. Only after that's done--only after unemployment is back below ~6%, and growth is above ~2% yearly, should we think about cutting the deficit and debt. Why, you ask?

Because if we start cutting them now by imposing huge spending cuts, in the long term the debt will increase even more due to a continued sagging economy.

Really? Ask Japan how well that has worked out for them. They have spent ove a decade trying to spend their way out of multiple recessions with the only thing to show for it is a Naitonal Debt that is now over 200% of their GDP. During the 1990s alone Japan tried 10 fiscal stimulus packages totaling more than 100 trillion yen, and each failed to end the recession


Or Japan only got out of the Lost Decade by following stimulus programs. Big article on the economist that suggested it in the New York Times Magazine last weekend. Not that reading or facts are important to conservative "thinkers"
 
2013-01-01 04:55:10 PM  

dumbobruni: stiletto_the_wise: GoldSpider: 2. How do we encourage businesses to hire?

Mandate a 30 hour work day? At some point we're going to have to accept that there are more workers out there than there is (full-time) work to do.

there are over 3 million unfilled jobs in America, and a bunch of industries ranging from manufacturing to financial services to construction are whining about "skills/staffing shortages".


It's almost as if they might have to *gasp* invest in their workforce and train new hires on the job. You know, like they used to do.
 
2013-01-01 04:55:18 PM  

neongoats: LazarusLong42: Infernalist: DamnYankees: Matt Yglesias  @mattyglesias
Senate GOP is lawful evil, House GOP is chaotic evil.

Does this mean that Obama is a Paladin?

Obama is Chaotic Good. Tries to do great stuff but never afraid to troll the other side (or break with his own side) when the necessity arises.

I disagree, Obama isn't anti-authoritarian enough to be chaotic. neutral-good perhaps. I might call good ol Joe Biden as chaotic-good. Bill Clinton for sure.


I put Obama at true neutral, with an emphasis on preservation and continuity, since he's essentially an America Druid. Biden's CG, Hillary is LN.
 
2013-01-01 04:57:06 PM  
Brit Hume @brithume
Appears the House GOP's pie-in-the-sky caucus will blow up the deal, leaving new higher tax rates in place and assuring Rs get all blame.

Guess they've lost Fox News.
 
2013-01-01 04:57:51 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-01 04:58:16 PM  
So where are we at with this thing. Has the house voted? Are they still having "debate" about the bill? Currently giving reach arounds to the Tea Party Caucus? I need a sitrep people..
 
2013-01-01 04:58:22 PM  

ariseatex: Brit Hume @brithume
Appears the House GOP's pie-in-the-sky caucus will blow up the deal, leaving new higher tax rates in place and assuring Rs get all blame.

Guess they've lost Fox News.


Wow. When they've lost Fox News, they've _lost_.
 
2013-01-01 04:59:09 PM  

5 star chef of tv dinners: So where are we at with this thing. Has the house voted? Are they still having "debate" about the bill? Currently giving reach arounds to the Tea Party Caucus? I need a sitrep people..


No, yes, and dear God I hope not.
 
2013-01-01 04:59:58 PM  

ariseatex: Brit Hume @brithume
Appears the House GOP's pie-in-the-sky caucus will blow up the deal, leaving new higher tax rates in place and assuring Rs get all blame.

Guess they've lost Fox News.


I don't watch fox. Is Hume one of the neo-con drones, or is he like Smith and actually retains most of his sanity?
 
2013-01-01 05:00:10 PM  

stoli n coke: kingflower: Issa on CNN just implied that the Senate was drunk and partying when they passed the bill to avoid the fiscal cliff....This is what Obama is dealing with. Over the cliff we go!!!

It was New Year's Eve. Of course there would be a party, but at least the Senate comes across like they're trying to do some work.

By 6 o'clock, Boehner was on a barstool working on his 9th whiskey sour of the day and Cantor was driving around looking for a 16-year old boy, a Reagan mask, and dreaming of things that would give Larry Flynt nightmares.


Boehner strikes me as a Cutty Sark man. I'd bet there's a "lost" episode of To Catch a Predator where Cantor gets to chat with Chris Hansen.
 
2013-01-01 05:00:10 PM  

ariseatex: Brit Hume @brithume
Appears the House GOP's pie-in-the-sky caucus will blow up the deal, leaving new higher tax rates in place and assuring Rs get all blame.

Guess they've lost Fox News.


Wow... Just wow.
 
2013-01-01 05:02:08 PM  
If the GOP is serious about trying to cut a deal and the Tea Derpers are fouling it up...

Perhaps we'll see a situation with the new Congress with the sane remnants of the GOP in the House working with the Democrats to ostracize and marginalize the Tea Derper caucus.
 
2013-01-01 05:02:35 PM  

Zeno-25: dumbobruni: stiletto_the_wise: GoldSpider: 2. How do we encourage businesses to hire?

Mandate a 30 hour work day? At some point we're going to have to accept that there are more workers out there than there is (full-time) work to do.

there are over 3 million unfilled jobs in America, and a bunch of industries ranging from manufacturing to financial services to construction are whining about "skills/staffing shortages".

It's almost as if they might have to *gasp* invest in their workforce and train new hires on the job. You know, like they used to do.


Well, that's a slippery slope that might lead to expectations of benefits and a wage higher than your average fruit picker. Next thing you know, people will want time off for vacations or family emergencies.

Easier just to write a fakery job posting custom tailored for the h1b candidate you already picked out and started training on the DL. Stack ten of them in an apartment making frenchfry wages, let them get deported when you are done.

Easy peasy.
 
2013-01-01 05:04:03 PM  

Infernalist: ariseatex: Brit Hume @brithume
Appears the House GOP's pie-in-the-sky caucus will blow up the deal, leaving new higher tax rates in place and assuring Rs get all blame.

Guess they've lost Fox News.

I don't watch fox. Is Hume one of the neo-con drones, or is he like Smith and actually retains most of his sanity?


Neocon drone. Shepard Smith is the anomaly.
 
2013-01-01 05:04:11 PM  
How can a party that is the victim 100% of the time be trusted to govern? Can someone name a single negative thing for which the GOP has accepted blame? Anything? I can rattle off a list of admitted failures on the Democratic side in case anyone wants to bring that weak sauce as a reply.
 
2013-01-01 05:05:00 PM  

quizzical: jocutus: Technically we're already over and trying to pull on a parachute, but one of our hands keeps punching us in the face and complaining about how much we're spending on parachutes. It's been that way for 4 years now.

[applause.gif]


Nice one!
 
2013-01-01 05:05:59 PM  

ariseatex: Brit Hume @brithume
Appears the House GOP's pie-in-the-sky caucus will blow up the deal, leaving new higher tax rates in place and assuring Rs get all blame.

Guess they've lost Fox News.



House Republicans have basically painted themselves into a corner. They pandered to the base with two things, taxes are too high and Obama bad. Now, they've encountered a situation where A.) They do something that Obama agrees with, or B.) They go on record for allowing or voting in favor of the tax rates going up.

They're in a can't win situation, so they're stalling the vote, hoping the problem will go away on its own.
 
2013-01-01 05:08:57 PM  

Corvus: And to prove my point that those on the right hate that the GOP is voting for this, look at this thread.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-01 05:09:15 PM  

stoli n coke: ariseatex: Brit Hume @brithume
Appears the House GOP's pie-in-the-sky caucus will blow up the deal, leaving new higher tax rates in place and assuring Rs get all blame.

Guess they've lost Fox News.


House Republicans have basically painted themselves into a corner. They pandered to the base with two things, taxes are too high and Obama bad. Now, they've encountered a situation where A.) They do something that Obama agrees with, or B.) They go on record for allowing or voting in favor of the tax rates going up.

They're in a can't win situation, so they're stalling the vote, hoping the problem will go away on its own.


My brother tried that when we were young and he smashed my head on the corner of the bathroom counter, creating a huge gash. No need to tell Mom & Dad, we'll just cover it up and it'll go away! he said.

At least my brother had an excuse. He was 11. What's the House's?
 
Ab3
2013-01-01 05:09:38 PM  

neongoats: LazarusLong42: Infernalist: DamnYankees: Matt Yglesias  @mattyglesias
Senate GOP is lawful evil, House GOP is chaotic evil.

Does this mean that Obama is a Paladin?

Obama is Chaotic Good. Tries to do great stuff but never afraid to troll the other side (or break with his own side) when the necessity arises.

I disagree, Obama isn't anti-authoritarian enough to be chaotic. neutral-good perhaps. I might call good ol Joe Biden as chaotic-good. Bill Clinton for sure.


Between the time
when Facebook drowned MySpace,
and the rise of the sons of Honey Boo Boo,
there was an age undreamed of.
And onto this, Obama,
destined to wear the jeweled crown
of America upon a troubled brow.
Only reading the FARK Politics tab,
can tell thee of his saga.
Let me tell you of the days of high Derpventure!
 
2013-01-01 05:10:39 PM  

LazarusLong42: Obama is Chaotic Good. Tries to do great stuff but never afraid to troll the other side (or break with his own side) when the necessity arises.


That's not Chaotic Good. You're thinking of Neutral Good.
 
2013-01-01 05:12:38 PM  

russlar: Wow. When they've lost Fox News, they've _lost_.


Fox News uses the GOP. The GOP only thinks they use Fox.
 
2013-01-01 05:12:50 PM  

dumbobruni: stiletto_the_wise: GoldSpider: 2. How do we encourage businesses to hire?

Mandate a 30 hour work day? At some point we're going to have to accept that there are more workers out there than there is (full-time) work to do.

there are over 3 million unfilled jobs in America, and a bunch of industries ranging from manufacturing to financial services to construction are whining about "skills/staffing shortages".


Because hr people write the position dedcription and noone wants to train.

Look at some of the qualifications, it boggles the mind.
 
2013-01-01 05:15:27 PM  

dumbobruni: there are over 3 million unfilled jobs in America, and a bunch of industries ranging from manufacturing to financial services to construction are whining about "skills/staffing shortages".


People have to have certain skill sets and they have to live where the jobs that require those skill sets are. That's a lot.
 
2013-01-01 05:16:11 PM  

DORMAMU: dumbobruni: stiletto_the_wise: GoldSpider: 2. How do we encourage businesses to hire?

Mandate a 30 hour work day? At some point we're going to have to accept that there are more workers out there than there is (full-time) work to do.

there are over 3 million unfilled jobs in America, and a bunch of industries ranging from manufacturing to financial services to construction are whining about "skills/staffing shortages".

Because hr people write the position dedcription and noone wants to train.

Look at some of the qualifications, it boggles the mind.


Entry-level position requires 5 years experience.
 
2013-01-01 05:16:32 PM  

DamnYankees: Consistant reductions in government employment has been a big hit:

thinkprogress.org


I'm skeptical that government make-work jobs are the solution.

DamnYankees: Increase demand.


This answer is thin on details.
 
2013-01-01 05:17:46 PM  

DamnYankees: TV's Vinnie: The Teabaggers who lost the election are just trying to wreck the country because they're butthurt little crybabies who still cannot fathom the fact that most of the country is disgusted with them.

Almost every individual tea partier in Congress actually won their election. The GOP only lost 8 seats. This is part of the problem.


upload.wikimedia.org
Alan "Evil Urkel"West isn't coming back.

upload.wikimedia.org
Alan Grayson is.
 
2013-01-01 05:18:52 PM  

GoldSpider: I'm skeptical that government make-work jobs are the solution.


I don't really care what pejoratives you are skeptical about.
 
2013-01-01 05:21:35 PM  
I work at a place that has a "skill gap." They think they can hire people with useful degrees for 14 bucks an hour. Funnily enough, once the economy started getting better, the number of applicants dropped like a stone, and all us suckered into this job to pay for our student loans now have decent resumes and skills.

They're getting really close to having a massive skill gap.
 
2013-01-01 05:24:23 PM  

russlar: DORMAMU: dumbobruni: stiletto_the_wise: GoldSpider: 2. How do we encourage businesses to hire?

Mandate a 30 hour work day? At some point we're going to have to accept that there are more workers out there than there is (full-time) work to do.

there are over 3 million unfilled jobs in America, and a bunch of industries ranging from manufacturing to financial services to construction are whining about "skills/staffing shortages".

Because hr people write the position dedcription and noone wants to train.

Look at some of the qualifications, it boggles the mind.

Entry-level position requires 5 years experience.


Craigslist Ad: Janitorial assistant, must have own car, must be willing to work varying shifts, 20 hours per week, $8.80 per hour...

/ saw that one last year
// who knows if it's legitimate? it was on Craigslist, so it there could be some 'trollin...
 
2013-01-01 05:24:30 PM  
Looks like House GOP just started another conference five minutes ago.

Based on what I'm hearing on the local (DC) news, here's how I expect it to go down:

1) House refuses to have an up-or-down vote on the Senate version, passes amendments instead, then passes amended bill.
2) Senate has already gone home, and Reid has said they will not return until the new session begins Jan. 3rd.
3) Republicans will then try to blame Reid for "going over the fiscal cliff," as he "refused to call the Senate in session to hear the House passed version."
 
2013-01-01 05:24:38 PM  

Ab3: neongoats: LazarusLong42: Infernalist: DamnYankees: Matt Yglesias  @mattyglesias
Senate GOP is lawful evil, House GOP is chaotic evil.

Does this mean that Obama is a Paladin?

Obama is Chaotic Good. Tries to do great stuff but never afraid to troll the other side (or break with his own side) when the necessity arises.

I disagree, Obama isn't anti-authoritarian enough to be chaotic. neutral-good perhaps. I might call good ol Joe Biden as chaotic-good. Bill Clinton for sure.

Between the time
when Facebook drowned MySpace,
and the rise of the sons of Honey Boo Boo,
there was an age undreamed of.
And onto this, Obama,
destined to wear the jeweled crown
of America upon a troubled brow.
Only reading the FARK Politics tab,
can tell thee of his saga.
Let me tell you of the days of high Derpventure!


The planar barrier will turn and tear asunder,
Caused by those who seek to protect it in name only.
From this breach shall come that which even the abyss fears,
Under the distraction of Kardashia unnoticed.
Madness shall befall many of man,
Blood shall be publicaly spilled.
As he shakes his mortal shell,
The Obamalisque will sow his seed of chaos in the gaurdians of the realm!
 
2013-01-01 05:29:28 PM  
House Republicans, you only had one job, just one, and you all cannot even do that!? The feral cats behind my house could do this job better than you!
 
2013-01-01 05:29:28 PM  

ariseatex: Looks like House GOP just started another conference five minutes ago.

Based on what I'm hearing on the local (DC) news, here's how I expect it to go down:

1) House refuses to have an up-or-down vote on the Senate version, passes amendments instead, then passes amended bill.
2) Senate has already gone home, and Reid has said they will not return until the new session begins Jan. 3rd.
3) Republicans will then try to blame Reid for "going over the fiscal cliff," as he "refused to call the Senate in session to hear the House passed version."


This after Boehner kicked the can up tot he Senate, after his own bill failed to even come up for a vote. Man has chutzpah, I'll give him that.
 
2013-01-01 05:31:36 PM  

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Mentat: Oh good grief, this isn't a debate class, it's politics.  I'm sorry you're mad that there's now only a 98% percent chance that you'll end up getting exactly what you want, but that's life.

Nice to see the Obama cheerleaders retreating to their home-position. "Stop complaining! We're trying to make this look good!"


So, the Republicans are blowing up the deal (just like I said they would) and you're going to get exactly what you want (just like I said you would) and there will be no political cost to Obama for compromising (just like I said there wouldn't) and you're still whining.  Imagine that.
 
2013-01-01 05:32:17 PM  

TV's Vinnie: DamnYankees: TV's Vinnie: The Teabaggers who lost the election are just trying to wreck the country because they're butthurt little crybabies who still cannot fathom the fact that most of the country is disgusted with them.

Almost every individual tea partier in Congress actually won their election. The GOP only lost 8 seats. This is part of the problem.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 398x599]
Alan "Evil Urkel"West isn't coming back.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 398x599]
Alan Grayson is.


is his head really that big?
 
2013-01-01 05:33:50 PM  

jocutus: kingflower: Issa on CNN just implied that the Senate was drunk and partying when they passed the bill to avoid the fiscal cliff....This is what Obama is dealing with. Over the cliff we go!!!

Technically we're already over and trying to pull on a parachute, but one of our hands keeps punching us in the face and complaining about how much we're spending on parachutes. It's been that way for 4 years now.


Sympathizes:

i1126.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-01 05:35:41 PM  

DamnYankees: I don't really care what pejoratives you are skeptical about.


Then your "solutions" are simply declarative statements you wish to become reality.

I support hiring all the people the government needs to carry out its responsibilities.
 
2013-01-01 05:36:42 PM  
Republicans are economic terrorists.
 
2013-01-01 05:37:38 PM  

russlar: This after Boehner kicked the can up tot he Senate, after his own bill failed to even come up for a vote. Man has chutzpah, I'll give him that.


It's less chutzpah and more saving-his-Speakership, IMO.

somedude210: is his head really that big?


Yep. And you know what they say about big heads.

/big hats
 
2013-01-01 05:44:31 PM  
The Teahadists are going to destroy a lot of lives with this shiat.
 
2013-01-01 05:44:55 PM  
Thanks, Tea Party! I look forward to the new session, where you get to vote against a tax cut for the middle-class, a Medicare provision to defer costs for doctors, and a farm bill provision to lower milk prices one after the other.

Let's just hope that people worse off than me aren't too harmed for too long by your dickshiattery.
 
2013-01-01 05:49:58 PM  

ariseatex: It's less chutzpah and more saving-his-Speakership, IMO.


This is already dead. At this point Cantor is just waiting for the rest of the blood to drip out of the knife wound in the back.
 
2013-01-01 05:51:38 PM  

russlar: DORMAMU: dumbobruni: stiletto_the_wise: GoldSpider: 2. How do we encourage businesses to hire?

Mandate a 30 hour work day? At some point we're going to have to accept that there are more workers out there than there is (full-time) work to do.

there are over 3 million unfilled jobs in America, and a bunch of industries ranging from manufacturing to financial services to construction are whining about "skills/staffing shortages".

Because hr people write the position dedcription and noone wants to train.

Look at some of the qualifications, it boggles the mind.

Entry-level position requires 5 years experience.


In a 2-year-old version of the technology.
 
2013-01-01 05:51:55 PM  
Anyone know if NSF funding will be affected by these austerity measures?
 
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