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(WorldNetDaily)   The Trans-Texas Corridor is not dead. It's been biding its time, gathering strength, waiting to burst out of Rick Perry's chest and devour us all   (wnd.com) divider line 34
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2013-01-01 03:13:38 PM
3 votes:
orclover


I live 5 blocks way from it in Austin. The Toll roads were "supposed" to divert trucks from going through the city. Guess what? They'd rather drive through 15 MPH traffic. The real issue with the Trans-Texas corridor is that they want to use eminent domain laws to steal the land that surrounds the highway. So ask yourself this...Should Americans that own property be forced to sell it because Rick Perry wants to give the right of way to a foreign multi-national corporation? And were aren't just talking about easements here. They want all the land around the road for their handpicked vendors. And they want to turn the roads that are already bought and paid for into private toll roads, which is outright theft from the citizens of Texas.
2013-01-01 02:56:37 PM
3 votes:
FTFA:TxDOT picked Cintra in 2005 to build what some critics called the "NAFTA Super Highway."

Ignoring the weasle word and the uncited 'critics'; I'm glad there are no highways that travels from the mexican border to anywhere in Texas, much less to across the United States all the way to Canada.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_5
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_35
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-American_Highway

herp derp NAFTA herp derp jerbs herp derp
2013-01-01 11:13:05 AM
3 votes:
Who keeps submitting these WND threads?
2013-01-01 11:45:29 PM
2 votes:

Kevin72: Why do we need a company from Spain to build this?


They gave the lowest bid? Are you in favor of spending extra tax dollars to accept only American bids?

Why would we have 1/5 trillion to pay to Spain, but no money to give any jobs to Americans?

Do you somehow think they'll ship all of the construction workers over from Spain? That they could even get work visas for most of them?

Now run along and let the adults have a discussion.
2013-01-01 03:22:46 PM
2 votes:
Texas has lowered taxes so much that even with bone-deep cuts in social services and education there simply isn't enough revenue to run the state. Solution: sell it off piecemeal for the immediate payoff. In five years you'll have to pay a toll to get out of your driveway.
2013-01-01 03:19:46 PM
2 votes:

FlippityFlap: orclover


I live 5 blocks way from it in Austin. The Toll roads were "supposed" to divert trucks from going through the city. Guess what? They'd rather drive through 15 MPH traffic. The real issue with the Trans-Texas corridor is that they want to use eminent domain laws to steal the land that surrounds the highway. So ask yourself this...Should Americans that own property be forced to sell it because Rick Perry wants to give the right of way to a foreign multi-national corporation? And were aren't just talking about easements here. They want all the land around the road for their handpicked vendors. And they want to turn the roads that are already bought and paid for into private toll roads, which is outright theft from the citizens of Texas.


Damn straight they should!

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2013-01-01 02:24:10 PM
2 votes:

muck4doo: If WND is against it, it must mean this is something good, right?

/not subby


If WND is against something it more than likely doesn't exist.
2013-01-01 01:35:51 PM
2 votes:

Via Infinito: Who keeps submitting these WND threads?


I've always presumed the submissions come from people who don't actually like WND, but want an easy greenlight. At Fark, nothing is guaranteed to generate irritation like WND does. If I were a whoremitter I'd likely do the same thing.

Search your feelings, subby. You know this to be true.
2013-01-01 12:02:12 PM
2 votes:
Then why don't we just launch Perry towards the sun and be done with it?
2013-01-01 11:29:53 AM
2 votes:

Via Infinito: Who keeps submitting these WND threads?


A terrible person that really needs to go hunting with Dick Cheney.
2013-01-03 11:20:23 PM
1 votes:

vygramul: moothemagiccow: That's going to be a long ass-highway

You left out the hyphen, so I helpfully inserted it.


fark xkcd
2013-01-02 01:31:28 AM
1 votes:

Gyrfalcon: Kevin72: Why do we need a company from Spain to build this? Why would we have 1/5 trillion to pay to Spain, but no money to give any jobs to Americans? Why do we want Spain to get the toll dollars? Why do we want Spain to have monopoly control to quintuple the tolls, take it or leave it? Just thought I would ask.

You need to stop watching so much Cinemax and get out more. This is actually a real thing and it's not even uncommon anymore. There was just a bit about it on CNBC talking about the desperate state of US infrastructure and some of the fixes states are going to to get needed repairs. One of them is leasing out the roads. There are more than a few interstates in various states that have been taken on 99-year leases by various companies (one I think is Australian and one is located in Dubai) who take over all duties for upkeep and repair on the road and in return they get to collect tolls on it.

And when they say "all upkeep and repair", they mean all of it. The company has to fix any potholes, do the snow removal, even pay the salaries of the state troopers who patrol it; plus paying the monthly lease to the states. The leases paid several billion dollars to the cash-strapped states where this was done, plus the annual payments and relieving the state of upkeep for the next 99 years. Now whether this will be a good thing in the long run remains to be seen, but the states needed the cash, they've gotten a big chunk of roadwork taken care off and off their books, and apparently the traffic has not suffered. So if Texas wants to have someone else do the work, pay for all of it, shoulder the headache of upkeep and repair, and kick back some rent money to Texas, well, we call that "free market economy" here in the US.


tl;dr: privatization

/this is what you're begging for, conservatives
2013-01-02 12:09:40 AM
1 votes:
The reason it is so hard to stop these projects is that they have unlimited resources; yours.

You may be able to block them several times but they rise up when you least expect it like those guys in the scary movies that everyone thinks are dead.

There are those inside and outside of our country that can fire up the fake money presses and print up whatever it takes to get their way.
2013-01-02 12:09:19 AM
1 votes:

MisterRonbo: Kevin72: Why do we need a company from Spain to build this?

They gave the lowest bid? Are you in favor of spending extra tax dollars to accept only American bids?

Why would we have 1/5 trillion to pay to Spain, but no money to give any jobs to Americans?

Do you somehow think they'll ship all of the construction workers over from Spain? That they could even get work visas for most of them?

Now run along and let the adults have a discussion.


I do not think the Americans were even given a chance to bid. The fix was in to just give it to Cinta. The taxpayers never asked for it. When they asked to not have it, Cinta bought up the newspapers with the negative editorials and letters to the editor, problem solved. So now you can hear how great it will be. And yes the workers won't be insourced, but the management will be.
2013-01-01 11:49:21 PM
1 votes:

Jim_Callahan: To make the SH 130 toll road palatable to Texas drivers, the speed limit will be set to 85 miles per hour, the fastest posted limit in the United States.

Nope, that's just the logical speed limit for the proposed geometry of the road and the fewer than normal interchanges. Most of I-10 in west Texas has sorta similar conditions and is set at 80.

Also, the corridor's construction got slowed down by the economic crash and subsequent lack of money, not because it was particularly unpopular. The people against it are loud, but they've got basically a 1:1 correlation with Ron Paul voters for the most part, so there are like maybe 1000 opponents total.


This toll road is basically a railroad for trucks. It's an express lane that bypasses city and intercity (commuter) traffic. The high speed limit is to help them make their trip more quickly and justify the cost.
2013-01-01 11:17:10 PM
1 votes:

Kevin72: Why do we need a company from Spain to build this? Why would we have 1/5 trillion to pay to Spain, but no money to give any jobs to Americans? Why do we want Spain to get the toll dollars? Why do we want Spain to have monopoly control to quintuple the tolls, take it or leave it? Just thought I would ask.


You need to stop watching so much Cinemax and get out more. This is actually a real thing and it's not even uncommon anymore. There was just a bit about it on CNBC talking about the desperate state of US infrastructure and some of the fixes states are going to to get needed repairs. One of them is leasing out the roads. There are more than a few interstates in various states that have been taken on 99-year leases by various companies (one I think is Australian and one is located in Dubai) who take over all duties for upkeep and repair on the road and in return they get to collect tolls on it.

And when they say "all upkeep and repair", they mean all of it. The company has to fix any potholes, do the snow removal, even pay the salaries of the state troopers who patrol it; plus paying the monthly lease to the states. The leases paid several billion dollars to the cash-strapped states where this was done, plus the annual payments and relieving the state of upkeep for the next 99 years. Now whether this will be a good thing in the long run remains to be seen, but the states needed the cash, they've gotten a big chunk of roadwork taken care off and off their books, and apparently the traffic has not suffered. So if Texas wants to have someone else do the work, pay for all of it, shoulder the headache of upkeep and repair, and kick back some rent money to Texas, well, we call that "free market economy" here in the US.
2013-01-01 08:39:47 PM
1 votes:

Vegan Meat Popsicle: The guy Cheney shot in the face didn't die. Hell, after he rolled out of his hospital bed he went on TV and apologized for getting shot.


True. That was one of the bigger WTF moments of those horrible, horrible years.
2013-01-01 08:04:27 PM
1 votes:
I've never understood why a United North America was such a bad thing. One continent-spanning polity? Nukes, meese and chupacabra? Burgers, poutine and enchiladas? That's the makings of a pretty awesome New World Order.
2013-01-01 06:58:20 PM
1 votes:

orclover: Its called I35, I live next to it.


I get on a different stretch of 35 every morning to go to work.

Here's the thing- as long as Free Trade Zones exist, and it's possible to keep production costs low by using maquiladoras, there's going to be heavy vehicle traffic on IH-35. There's also going to be heavy train traffic from LA/ Long Beach to Texas.

It's NAFTA. It's the global economy.
2013-01-01 05:37:14 PM
1 votes:
Obligatory:
www.greatdreams.com
/hot; eh, lukewarm
//also, Google the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP)
//my tinfoil hat has a propeller
2013-01-01 05:02:00 PM
1 votes:

Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?

Bring the unwanted inner-city Houstonians into the upper crust suburbs of Dallas?

It's part of the whole NWO scheme to incorporate Mexico, Canada, and the US.
[signaveritae.files.wordpress.com image 600x600]


Its adorable that wing-nuts think that Mexico and Canada want to join the U.S. We Canadians are way too liberal to ever join some North American country, in which we will have as much say in policy as the state of California. Mexico's economy is starting to pick up steam and I'm sure they are more than a little aware of how a good portion of Americans feel about them. I guess when one is a nutcase with delusions of grandeur (Murica is the greatest country ever, no matter what!!1!), it's easy to believe that everyone wants to steal some of your greatness. Not to mention those blue-helmeted storm-troopers and black helicopters.
2013-01-01 04:27:15 PM
1 votes:

clambam: Texas has lowered taxes so much that even with bone-deep cuts in social services and education there simply isn't enough revenue to run the state. Solution: sell it off piecemeal for the immediate payoff. In five years you'll have to pay a toll to get out of your driveway.


Well, it's better than Virginia's solution... which is to do that AND take out such massive transportation loans that when they mature in a few years, we'll have no choice but to either massively increase taxes, or massacre the education budget. Either way, I'm pretty sure the Republicans plan on tanking an election so that Democrats are in office when it happens.
2013-01-01 03:49:01 PM
1 votes:
Having driven through DFW, I must ask why does anyone who commute on 35? It's always hopelessly clogged (except in the middle of the night. Why doesn't everyone there idling and staring at the parking lot they're stuck check a map and look up alternate routes? Or for long drives north/south, a detour around the really bad sections? You all know the road is going to be stopped up, why do you keep getting on it?
2013-01-01 03:36:23 PM
1 votes:
thamike


That's bad. Now imagine every car is a Mexican semi-truck on a badly constructed 4 lane highway who designer killed himself because of the number of fatalities that occured on the road......


/not so much the volume as the shiatty 1960's freeway...
2013-01-01 03:23:26 PM
1 votes:

FlippityFlap: thamike


You really can't comprehend the volume of traffic that goes through here. It's ok...be glad you don't have to deal with it.


I used to live right next to the 405 in Los Angeles, near the 405/10 interchange.  My apartment building even had a rooftop hot tub overlooking the highway.  About  30 yards separated me and the most crowded major highway in the U.S.  I found it soothing, but maybe Angelenos are more cautious about reckless honking than Texans are.  Doubtful though.
2013-01-01 03:20:59 PM
1 votes:

SilentStrider: Then why don't we just launch Perry towards the sun and be done with it?


I would be more than happy to pay higher taxes to make this happen.
2013-01-01 03:15:57 PM
1 votes:
Oh, good lord, I am about to agree with Jerome Corsi.

The problem here is allowing some outside company to collect rent on public assets.

It's like the parking meter deal here in Chicago. We are exporting cash to a foreign company for the "right" to park on our own streets. The price of parking has quadrupled. They're vacuuming away our cash instead of putting that money into local infrastructure.

It's like the disasters where countries give foreigners control of their water supplies. It's like foreign companies trying to take ownership of Iceland's geothermal energy.
2013-01-01 03:11:42 PM
1 votes:

orclover: Its called I35, I live next to it. A semi goes by in either direction every 3 seconds at a minimum at all hours. This is not hyperbole, this is not false, this is a FACT. 3am? truck every 3 seconds, both directions. I sit in my hot tub and watch in amazement. 7 years ago it wasn't even close to this number. No toll road will fix this. Nothing will fix this.


It's as if living next to a highway is almost exactly what it sounds like.
2013-01-01 03:06:03 PM
1 votes:
Its called I35, I live next to it. A semi goes by in either direction every 3 seconds at a minimum at all hours. This is not hyperbole, this is not false, this is a FACT. 3am? truck every 3 seconds, both directions. I sit in my hot tub and watch in amazement. 7 years ago it wasn't even close to this number. No toll road will fix this. Nothing will fix this.
2013-01-01 02:52:41 PM
1 votes:

Gergesa: I can't wait until the new world order finally gets things underway. How many years have we been waiting and listening to conspiracy nonsense? Way too long.


is it shorter or longer than we have been hearing that "super inflation" is just around the corner?
2013-01-01 02:51:52 PM
1 votes:

StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?


It was a plan to make a super roadway from Mexico up through Texas.

So obviously building this was proof to the tin foil hat squad that there is a secret plot to combine the US, Mexico and Canada into one country and force your kids to speak Spanish eat burritos and play hockey.
2013-01-01 02:35:43 PM
1 votes:

StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?

Bring the unwanted inner-city Houstonians into the upper crust suburbs of Dallas?


It's part of the whole NWO scheme to incorporate Mexico, Canada, and the US.
signaveritae.files.wordpress.com
2013-01-01 02:35:06 PM
1 votes:

Via Infinito: Who keeps submitting these WND threads?


Somebody who thinks the accepted submissions stat is a score counter. Superderp = automatic greenlight since it has a good chance of attracting the various right-wing fark trolls and generating a pages long argument that may or may not have anything to do with the submitted article.

Somebody really ought to write a book about manipulative assholes who sell stupid as infotainment....

James F. Campbell: Cue the ridiculous blather about how you're an evil liberal for wishing death on people who disagree with you ideologically!


The guy Cheney shot in the face didn't die. Hell, after he rolled out of his hospital bed he went on TV and apologized for getting shot.
2013-01-01 11:20:29 AM
1 votes:
NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH TRANSPORTATION!
 
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