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(WorldNetDaily)   The Trans-Texas Corridor is not dead. It's been biding its time, gathering strength, waiting to burst out of Rick Perry's chest and devour us all   (wnd.com) divider line 123
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2013-01-01 03:32:30 PM
Pay Spain for the "priviledge" to drive in Texas.
 
2013-01-01 03:34:36 PM
www.bitlogic.com
 
2013-01-01 03:36:23 PM
thamike


That's bad. Now imagine every car is a Mexican semi-truck on a badly constructed 4 lane highway who designer killed himself because of the number of fatalities that occured on the road......


/not so much the volume as the shiatty 1960's freeway...
 
2013-01-01 03:37:14 PM

hammettman: Pay Spain for the "priviledge" to drive in Texas.


This is not lazy simplistic chicanery in the least.
 
2013-01-01 03:40:13 PM

Corvus: Gergesa: I can't wait until the new world order finally gets things underway. How many years have we been waiting and listening to conspiracy nonsense? Way too long.

is it shorter or longer than we have been hearing that "super inflation" is just around the corner?


Something something peak oil something tri-lateral commission something reverse vampires.
 
2013-01-01 03:40:34 PM

FlippityFlap: That's bad.


It really wasn't.  Best apartment I've ever lived in.
 
2013-01-01 03:42:29 PM

LucklessWonder: Corvus: Gergesa: I can't wait until the new world order finally gets things underway. How many years have we been waiting and listening to conspiracy nonsense? Way too long.

is it shorter or longer than we have been hearing that "super inflation" is just around the corner?

Something something peak oil something tri-lateral commission something reverse vampires.


Don't forget the Bilderbergs.
 
2013-01-01 03:49:01 PM
Having driven through DFW, I must ask why does anyone who commute on 35? It's always hopelessly clogged (except in the middle of the night. Why doesn't everyone there idling and staring at the parking lot they're stuck check a map and look up alternate routes? Or for long drives north/south, a detour around the really bad sections? You all know the road is going to be stopped up, why do you keep getting on it?
 
2013-01-01 03:49:06 PM
Separated at birth????

api.ning.comwww.stufffundieslike.com
 
2013-01-01 04:03:49 PM

Shostie: Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?

Bring the unwanted inner-city Houstonians into the upper crust suburbs of Dallas?

It's part of the whole NWO scheme to incorporate Mexico, Canada, and the US.
[signaveritae.files.wordpress.com image 600x600]

The eagle carries lightning bolts? That's pretty f*cking badass.


For the Emperor!
 
2013-01-01 04:08:06 PM

muck4doo: Lionel Mandrake: muck4doo: If WND is against it, it must mean this is something good, right?

/not subby

If WND is against something it more than likely doesn't exist.

We need Daily Kos to get to this so we know what to think about it.


WND duty did something dumb, best get to implying DailyKos is exactly equivalent and that liberals get their thoughts from it.
 
2013-01-01 04:08:47 PM

thurstonxhowell: duty


Go home, word that clearly doesn't belong there. You're drunk.
 
2013-01-01 04:20:03 PM
On the bright side, it's nice to see the right-wing-nutjobs attacking slightly-less-right-wing-nutjobs for a change.
 
2013-01-01 04:27:15 PM

clambam: Texas has lowered taxes so much that even with bone-deep cuts in social services and education there simply isn't enough revenue to run the state. Solution: sell it off piecemeal for the immediate payoff. In five years you'll have to pay a toll to get out of your driveway.


Well, it's better than Virginia's solution... which is to do that AND take out such massive transportation loans that when they mature in a few years, we'll have no choice but to either massively increase taxes, or massacre the education budget. Either way, I'm pretty sure the Republicans plan on tanking an election so that Democrats are in office when it happens.
 
2013-01-01 04:31:34 PM

muck4doo: Lionel Mandrake: muck4doo: If WND is against it, it must mean this is something good, right?

/not subby

If WND is against something it more than likely doesn't exist.

We need Daily Kos to get to this so we know what to think about it.




i159.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-01 04:38:28 PM
one of the serious drawbacks to indiscriminately demonizing tax increases for decades.
 
2013-01-01 04:41:40 PM

StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?

Bring the unwanted inner-city Houstonians into the upper crust suburbs of Dallas?


No, they can settle in North Oak Cliff. Kiest Park is always a nice place to curl up a sleeping bag for the night.
 
2013-01-01 04:54:33 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: thamike: It's as if living next to a highway is almost exactly what it sounds like.

I think the point is the volume of traffic. Constant volume 24/7 is not a good thing for any road and indicates something might need to be looked at by some highway engineers.


Its pretty mind boggling to watch, those toll roads were the simpsons monorail of Austin, along with our actual "monorail" that nobody uses.

FlippityFlap: orclover


I live 5 blocks way from it in Austin. The Toll roads were "supposed" to divert trucks from going through the city. Guess what? They'd rather drive through 15 MPH traffic. The real issue with the Trans-Texas corridor is that they want to use eminent domain laws to steal the land that surrounds the highway. So ask yourself this...Should Americans that own property be forced to sell it because Rick Perry wants to give the right of way to a foreign multi-national corporation? And were aren't just talking about easements here. They want all the land around the road for their handpicked vendors. And they want to turn the roads that are already bought and paid for into private toll roads, which is outright theft from the citizens of Texas.


I would actually be ok with public domain at this point since I live so close to Rundberg as well, by all means kick me out and pay off my bank loan. I would happily get the fark out of here and run el norte, maybe start over in Washington. I would go to Canada for the health care but i'm way too broke for them to take me. So I guess I will just watch the waves of mexican truck drivers ferrying cheap chinese crap to our country.

There has got to be a better, cheaper way of doing this.
 
2013-01-01 05:02:00 PM

Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?

Bring the unwanted inner-city Houstonians into the upper crust suburbs of Dallas?

It's part of the whole NWO scheme to incorporate Mexico, Canada, and the US.
[signaveritae.files.wordpress.com image 600x600]


Its adorable that wing-nuts think that Mexico and Canada want to join the U.S. We Canadians are way too liberal to ever join some North American country, in which we will have as much say in policy as the state of California. Mexico's economy is starting to pick up steam and I'm sure they are more than a little aware of how a good portion of Americans feel about them. I guess when one is a nutcase with delusions of grandeur (Murica is the greatest country ever, no matter what!!1!), it's easy to believe that everyone wants to steal some of your greatness. Not to mention those blue-helmeted storm-troopers and black helicopters.
 
2013-01-01 05:03:45 PM
Come on! Get in the spirit!
We are ALL Amero-CANS!
 
2013-01-01 05:04:10 PM

ordinarysteve: Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?

Bring the unwanted inner-city Houstonians into the upper crust suburbs of Dallas?

It's part of the whole NWO scheme to incorporate Mexico, Canada, and the US.
[signaveritae.files.wordpress.com image 600x600]

Its adorable that wing-nuts think that Mexico and Canada want to join the U.S. We Canadians are way too liberal to ever join some North American country, in which we will have as much say in policy as the state of California. Mexico's economy is starting to pick up steam and I'm sure they are more than a little aware of how a good portion of Americans feel about them. I guess when one is a nutcase with delusions of grandeur (Murica is the greatest country ever, no matter what!!1!), it's easy to believe that everyone wants to steal some of your greatness. Not to mention those blue-helmeted storm-troopers and black helicopters.


Were commin fer yer maple syrup, and yer meese.
 
2013-01-01 05:07:58 PM

orclover: ordinarysteve: Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?

Bring the unwanted inner-city Houstonians into the upper crust suburbs of Dallas?

It's part of the whole NWO scheme to incorporate Mexico, Canada, and the US.
[signaveritae.files.wordpress.com image 600x600]

Its adorable that wing-nuts think that Mexico and Canada want to join the U.S. We Canadians are way too liberal to ever join some North American country, in which we will have as much say in policy as the state of California. Mexico's economy is starting to pick up steam and I'm sure they are more than a little aware of how a good portion of Americans feel about them. I guess when one is a nutcase with delusions of grandeur (Murica is the greatest country ever, no matter what!!1!), it's easy to believe that everyone wants to steal some of your greatness. Not to mention those blue-helmeted storm-troopers and black helicopters.

Were commin fer yer maple syrup, and yer meese.


Oh noes! That's Canada's retirement syrup
/I always thought that was how the plural of moose should be spelled. It must really be a pain to learn english as a second language
 
2013-01-01 05:08:43 PM

ordinarysteve: Fart_Machine: StopLurkListen: I'm behind on my "I don't know what the hell you're talking about" points. Can someone summarize what fresh hell a "Trans-Texas-Corridor" is supposed to visit upon us?

Bring the unwanted inner-city Houstonians into the upper crust suburbs of Dallas?

It's part of the whole NWO scheme to incorporate Mexico, Canada, and the US.
[signaveritae.files.wordpress.com image 600x600]

Its adorable that wing-nuts think that Mexico and Canada want to join the U.S. We Canadians are way too liberal to ever join some North American country, in which we will have as much say in policy as the state of California. Mexico's economy is starting to pick up steam and I'm sure they are more than a little aware of how a good portion of Americans feel about them. I guess when one is a nutcase with delusions of grandeur (Murica is the greatest country ever, no matter what!!1!), it's easy to believe that everyone wants to steal some of your greatness. Not to mention those blue-helmeted storm-troopers and black helicopters.


It's so William Shatner can become President
 
2013-01-01 05:11:03 PM

relcec: one of the serious drawbacks to indiscriminately demonizing tax increases for decades.


Good advice.
Much like checking your current log-in..
 
2013-01-01 05:14:06 PM

clambam: Texas has lowered taxes so much that even with bone-deep cuts in social services and education there simply isn't enough revenue to run the state. Solution: sell it off piecemeal for the immediate payoff. In five years you'll have to pay a toll to get out of your driveway.


they haven't really cut taxes in a long time. per capita spending has largely remained the same for over a decade. there were state cuts to schools, but because this isn't California, local municipalities are allowed to raise taxes to offset the loss in state funding, which almost all did. and in fact that's a better way to run things. you get as direct accountability as is possible.
there were significant cuts in social services from where those programs would have otherwise been if not for the economic meltdown, but that is true almost everywhere, including in california where jerry brown trimmed 9 billion is social services for the very poorest.
the problem though here is lawmakers have been so effective at pushing anti tax rhetoric there will never be the kind of money needed for big projects even if they are called for.
I have no idea if the corridor is worth it, but there will never be the money for it.
and no one can just *sell off the state*. a valid taking must compensated for with fair value.
 
2013-01-01 05:16:36 PM

Fart_Machine: It's so William Shatner can become President


Obligatory link to the Amerida video. Link
 
2013-01-01 05:17:22 PM

gas giant: relcec: one of the serious drawbacks to indiscriminately demonizing tax increases for decades.

Good advice.
Much like checking your current log-in..


I've always been about reasonable taxes that pay for necessary government programs. I've been arguing we should let all the bush tax cuts expire since the first day I logged on here. and go f*ck yourself.
 
2013-01-01 05:22:00 PM

relcec: and go f*ck yourself.


I've tried, but it refuses bend like that.
 
2013-01-01 05:26:53 PM
RepublicOns ignoring the will of the people they were elected to represent????? say it aint so

/I'm shocked......really......no really.......ya I don't believe me either
 
2013-01-01 05:29:56 PM
what's wrong with trans? Ya'll better check your privilege, cis-state scum!
 
2013-01-01 05:34:47 PM
Ash was protecting it all along
 
2013-01-01 05:37:14 PM
Obligatory:
www.greatdreams.com
/hot; eh, lukewarm
//also, Google the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP)
//my tinfoil hat has a propeller
 
2013-01-01 05:42:51 PM

Fart_Machine: It's part of the whole NWO scheme to incorporate Mexico, Canada, and the US.

[Amero]


A few years back, I was buying something random from someone out in the sticks off of Craigslist. Since I had just gotten a couple of rolls, I paid him partially in brass Presidential dollars.

He looked at me like I had just handed him a raccoon turd. "Are these those new world order dollars I heard about on the radio"?

"Yes, James Polk is a folk-hero in Mexico, you know".
 
2013-01-01 05:45:15 PM

Lionel Mandrake: muck4doo: Lionel Mandrake: muck4doo: If WND is against it, it must mean this is something good, right?

/not subby

If WND is against something it more than likely doesn't exist.

We need Daily Kos to get to this so we know what to think about it.

[i159.photobucket.com image 500x375]


Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
 
2013-01-01 05:55:19 PM
NWO derp aside, the kickbacks that Perry is promised from this idea must be farking epic. Like, "a massive plantation with slaves somewhere in Africa," epic.
 
2013-01-01 05:56:56 PM

muck4doo: Didn't mean to hurt your feelings.


I forgive you.
 
2013-01-01 06:00:44 PM
"Quietly but systematically, the Bush administration in conjunction with Perry in Texas advanced the plan to build a huge highway, four football fields wide, through the heart of Texas, parallel to Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Texas, to the Texas border with Oklahoma.

The Cintra deal meant that once the TTC was completed, anyone who wanted to drive on it would have to pay an investment consortium in Spain for the privilege of driving in Texas.

Although somewhat incomprehensible to most U.S. citizens, these public-private partnerships involve selling off key U.S. infrastructure projects to foreign entities.


According to the TxDOT Trans-Texas Corridor Plan adopted in June 2002, TxDOT ultimately would build some 4,000 miles of highway-railway-utility super-corridors throughout Texas over the next 50 years, using some 584,000 acres of what is now Texas farm and ranchland, at an estimated cost of $184 billion."


So the taxpayers of Texas pays $184 billion to build this superhighway that corporations get to profit off of, and then gives some corporation in Spain the right to charge these taxpayers toll money to use it? What a racket!

How do I get in on this action?

I want the taxpayers of my state to build me a beautiful $18 billion dollar 18 hole golf course that I get to use any time I want to, and then I get to charge them money if they want to play on it.
 
2013-01-01 06:37:58 PM
I actually took 130 from sequin to round rock this weekend and it was glorious at 85 mph! Well worth the money rather than spending it burning it in gas sitting in traffic in Austin.

Since I live in north Fort Worth, I'm really happy that this is happening..... I still want additional DART/TRE connecting north FW to other areas of the metroplex.... Would reduce congestion even more.
 
2013-01-01 06:45:16 PM

Lawnchair: "Yes, James Polk is a folk-hero in Mexico, you know".


Rutherford Hayes is something of a hero in Paraguay.
 
2013-01-01 06:56:31 PM

muck4doo: If WND is against it, it must mean this is something good, right?

/not subby


I dunno, that was kind of my first thought.
 
2013-01-01 06:58:20 PM

orclover: Its called I35, I live next to it.


I get on a different stretch of 35 every morning to go to work.

Here's the thing- as long as Free Trade Zones exist, and it's possible to keep production costs low by using maquiladoras, there's going to be heavy vehicle traffic on IH-35. There's also going to be heavy train traffic from LA/ Long Beach to Texas.

It's NAFTA. It's the global economy.
 
2013-01-01 07:31:43 PM
sadventurez.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-01-01 07:50:41 PM
Texas advanced the plan to build a huge highway, four football fields wide, through the heart of Texas, parallel to Interstate 35, from the Mexican border at Laredo, Texas, to the Texas border with Oklahoma

What happens at the Oklahoma border? They'll need super highways to deal with all the supposed traffic from that corridor.Are the taxpayers supposed to fund the roads to accommodate all the extra traffic leaving Texas? What's in it for the taxpayers? I don't see them sending all the traffic to the OK border at 35. You've already gone miles out of your way to everywhere cept OK and a bunch of sparsely populated states like Kansas,Nebraska, Dakotas, etc, not to mention that Kansas 35 is a toll road that everyone avoids so who wants to pay a thousand miles worth of tolls?. They could use some smaller toll roads fanning out from Laredo in various directions. One going straight to Texarkana would probably get used a lot. You keep it cheap enough so the traffic going through Houston would use it to bypass San Antonio and shorten the trip.
 
2013-01-01 07:58:01 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: NO ONE EXPECTS THE SPANISH TRANSPORTATION!


gifs.gifbin.com
 
2013-01-01 08:04:27 PM
I've never understood why a United North America was such a bad thing. One continent-spanning polity? Nukes, meese and chupacabra? Burgers, poutine and enchiladas? That's the makings of a pretty awesome New World Order.
 
2013-01-01 08:23:35 PM

theorellior: I've never understood why a United North America was such a bad thing. One continent-spanning polity? Nukes, meese and chupacabra? Burgers, poutine and enchiladas? That's the makings of a pretty awesome New World Order.


Tasty, anyway. Except the poutine. But we would have maple syrup.
 
2013-01-01 08:39:47 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: The guy Cheney shot in the face didn't die. Hell, after he rolled out of his hospital bed he went on TV and apologized for getting shot.


True. That was one of the bigger WTF moments of those horrible, horrible years.
 
2013-01-01 08:41:33 PM
It'll be a cold day in hell when I allow my children to eat your Maple-flavored Moose burritos!
 
2013-01-01 08:53:30 PM
WTF am I reading. I tried Googling for real information (why would Spain want to build a road in Texas?) and all the hits are from conspiracy websites or FOX. Does this thing even exist at all?
 
2013-01-01 08:54:10 PM
To make the SH 130 toll road palatable to Texas drivers, the speed limit will be set to 85 miles per hour, the fastest posted limit in the United States.

Nope, that's just the logical speed limit for the proposed geometry of the road and the fewer than normal interchanges. Most of I-10 in west Texas has sorta similar conditions and is set at 80.

Also, the corridor's construction got slowed down by the economic crash and subsequent lack of money, not because it was particularly unpopular. The people against it are loud, but they've got basically a 1:1 correlation with Ron Paul voters for the most part, so there are like maybe 1000 opponents total.
 
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