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(The Consumerist)   NYC mayor blames crime increase on iPhone thefts, recommends deterring robberies by telling crooks that your wireless provider is AT&T   (consumerist.com) divider line 54
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2013-01-01 08:47:41 AM  
First excuse for the new year?
 
2013-01-01 08:50:13 AM  
Hey, my provider is At&T, and I don't have a problem with drop


Sent from my iPhone
 
2013-01-01 08:53:27 AM  
"You know, some people are stealing and they're making a big deal out of it. Oh, they're stealing 20 pair of jeans or they're stealing i Phones. Who cares? They're not going to go too far with it. Maybe those people are so poor, some of the people who do that they're so poor they've never touched anything in their lives. Let them touch those things for once." -- Celine Dion

Gosh I know Celine was in New York last night singing in time square for New Years but what is it with her?
 
2013-01-01 08:54:07 AM  
Bah-ZING!
 
2013-01-01 08:54:32 AM  
The city maintains that if you take Apple out of the equation, major crime would be down instead of up by 3.3%. The police department logged 108,432 major crimes for the year, up from 104,948 in 2011.

The answer is clear, Apple is a criminal gateway and all Apple products must be banned.

Sent from my iPad III.
 
2013-01-01 08:55:30 AM  
time to investigate other states selling phones and continue to refuse to look inward
 
2013-01-01 08:56:49 AM  
Either give them your iPhone of they'll push you off the platform.
 
2013-01-01 09:03:56 AM  
I don't click on articles from Consumerist anymore, but I will assume Bloomberg wrote a whiny letter to consumerist demanding a free iphone from Apple.
 
2013-01-01 09:04:50 AM  

Prey4reign: The city maintains that if you take Apple out of the equation, major crime would be down instead of up by 3.3%. The police department logged 108,432 major crimes for the year, up from 104,948 in 2011.

The answer is clear, Apple is a criminal gateway and all Apple products must be banned.

Sent from my iPad III.


Uh, actually that's my iPad III, you stole it.
 
2013-01-01 09:09:26 AM  
I work in a secure environment (known as a lock box) and as such we are not allowed to have cell phones or any MP3 devices when on the production floor. Portable CD players, however, are allowed. So, when I take the train to work I am usually listening to music on a portable CD player. Funny how no one wants to steal those anymore.
 
2013-01-01 09:23:27 AM  

KimNorth: "You know, some people are stealing and they're making a big deal out of it. Oh, they're stealing 20 pair of jeans or they're stealing i Phones. Who cares? They're not going to go too far with it. Maybe those people are so poor, some of the people who do that they're so poor they've never touched anything in their lives. Let them touch those things for once." -- Celine Dion

Gosh I know Celine was in New York last night singing in time square for New Years but what is it with her?


She's Canadian. She doesn't know any better. Seriously, it's obvious her POV is that some must pilfer to survive. Sure, you may wish your laptop didn't get stolen. But to someone else it means a crumb to eat for their children. Or a sweet intravenous injection of Next Stop: Bellevue.
 
2013-01-01 09:27:19 AM  
Isn't there an app for that?
 
2013-01-01 09:31:27 AM  
As someone who works for the carrier with the largest number of iphones let me break it down for you on how 90% off iphone theft works.

1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters  when they are shopping.

2. If an iphone user does have it in their purse or pocket, the first thing they do is take it out and sit in in front of them on the table so everyone can see it.

3. Not willing to admit they "lost" it, they say it was stolen and have to file an insurance claim, and stolen sounds better than "i lost it".
 
2013-01-01 09:40:49 AM  

theflatline: As someone who works for the carrier with the largest number of iphones let me break it down for you on how 90% off iphone theft works.

1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters  when they are shopping.

2. If an iphone user does have it in their purse or pocket, the first thing they do is take it out and sit in in front of them on the table so everyone can see it.

3. Not willing to admit they "lost" it, they say it was stolen and have to file an insurance claim, and stolen sounds better than "i lost it".


BUT someone always FINDS it then it is up to them to turn it in to where ever call number "hey found this know who's it is?" after that THEY STOLE it. Am I wrong???
 
2013-01-01 09:46:20 AM  
As someone who fixes and sells iPhones, the AT&T iPhone is by far the most valuable one to resell. It is the only one that is on the GSM network.
 
2013-01-01 09:47:18 AM  

KimNorth: "You know, some people are stealing and they're making a big deal out of it. Oh, they're stealing 20 pair of jeans or they're stealing i Phones. Who cares? They're not going to go too far with it. Maybe those people are so poor, some of the people who do that they're so poor they've never touched anything in their lives. Let them touch those things for once." -- Celine Dion

Gosh I know Celine was in New York last night singing in time square for New Years but what is it with her?


I've never touched Celine Dion's breasts in my life. Let me touch those things for once.
 
2013-01-01 09:55:57 AM  

davidphogan: Isn't there an app for that?


Yes. It is called "your pocket." Keep your iPhone out of sight in your pocket and people are less likely to steal it.
 
2013-01-01 09:58:21 AM  

davidphogan: Isn't there an app for that?



yep, you download a Glock...
 
TWX
2013-01-01 09:58:54 AM  

theflatline: As someone who works for the carrier with the largest number of iphones let me break it down for you on how 90% off iphone theft works.

1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters  when they are shopping.

2. If an iphone user does have it in their purse or pocket, the first thing they do is take it out and sit in in front of them on the table so everyone can see it.

3. Not willing to admit they "lost" it, they say it was stolen and have to file an insurance claim, and stolen sounds better than "i lost it".


I've never lost portable electronics, but I've never had any Apple portable electronics either. I have dropped them on tile floors, closed them in car doors, dropped an earpiece in a toilet (and that was the last time I used bluetooth wireless earpieces), and most recently dropped and immediately retrieved one that fell into a mud puddle (thankfully with no lasting damage, thank you Uncle Ben!), but never lost one, or damaged one enough that it quit working altogether.

/USRobotics Pilot 5000
//Motorola RAZR
///Palm Zire 71
////Palm Tungsten T5
//T-Mobile G1
//Samsung Galaxy SII
 
TWX
2013-01-01 10:04:41 AM  

Mock26: davidphogan: Isn't there an app for that?

Yes. It is called "your pocket." Keep your iPhone out of sight in your pocket and people are less likely to steal it.


Now that theoretically cell companies are denying service to serial numbers of reported-stolen phones, this should be much less of a problem once thieves can't pawn them, can't use them themselves. The only remaining loophole is classifieds like Craigslist, but if the cops feel that trafficking in stolen merchandise worth several hundred dollars is worth pursuing...
 
2013-01-01 10:14:53 AM  
maybe Bloomberg can just limit the size of Iphones and that will solve the problem
 
2013-01-01 10:18:56 AM  
Actually, reading the article, Bloomberg is calling for people to wear tight fitting clothes. +1 for Bloomberg.
 
2013-01-01 10:21:48 AM  

theflatline: 1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters when they are shopping.


Holy shiat! You're right.
 
2013-01-01 10:41:00 AM  
That's what I like about my old Samsung flip phone. It's like a '72 pinto - no one would want to steal it.
 
2013-01-01 10:47:33 AM  

TWX: Mock26: davidphogan: Isn't there an app for that?

Yes. It is called "your pocket." Keep your iPhone out of sight in your pocket and people are less likely to steal it.

Now that theoretically cell companies are denying service to serial numbers of reported-stolen phones, this should be much less of a problem once thieves can't pawn them, can't use them themselves. The only remaining loophole is classifieds like Craigslist, but if the cops feel that trafficking in stolen merchandise worth several hundred dollars is worth pursuing...


www.ferraris-online.com
 
2013-01-01 11:00:04 AM  
I like the sound of get you hands off my gadgets better than don't touch my junk.
 
TWX
2013-01-01 11:17:37 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: ZFFTG46A0S0104220


I'm sorry, but I don't think that a cell provider can deny use of a '95 Ferrari Testarossa based on a serial number...
 
2013-01-01 11:26:31 AM  

TWX: Mock26: davidphogan: Isn't there an app for that?

Yes. It is called "your pocket." Keep your iPhone out of sight in your pocket and people are less likely to steal it.

Now that theoretically cell companies are denying service to serial numbers of reported-stolen phones, this should be much less of a problem once thieves can't pawn them, can't use them themselves. The only remaining loophole is classifieds like Craigslist, but if the cops feel that trafficking in stolen merchandise worth several hundred dollars is worth pursuing...



It will help but a huge numer of iPhones stolen in the us end up in China and Russia and even if they can't use it as a phone it still works as an iPod untill apple can come up with a better remote lock that can't be avoided by deleting an app
 
2013-01-01 11:29:41 AM  

TWX: StoPPeRmobile: ZFFTG46A0S0104220

I'm sorry, but I don't think that a cell provider can deny use of a '95 Ferrari Testarossa based on a serial number...


I wonder what a phone chop-shop looks like.
 
2013-01-01 11:30:44 AM  
Clearly, we need to arm Apple users.
 
TWX
2013-01-01 11:38:46 AM  

StoPPeRmobile: TWX: StoPPeRmobile: ZFFTG46A0S0104220

I'm sorry, but I don't think that a cell provider can deny use of a '95 Ferrari Testarossa based on a serial number...

I wonder what a phone chop-shop looks like.


Honestly, probably like a high school computer geek's room, only with the bins of electronic parts slightly smaller in scale than the piles of video cards, sound cards, and DIMMs that one would normally find.
 
2013-01-01 11:41:24 AM  

Mentat: Clearly, we need to arm Apple users.


Well thieves are the issue here.
Either iPhone users are especially careless or they've been targeted because the phones are easily flipped for cash. If its the latter, protecting one specific group solves the "problem".

/More iThieves with iHoles in em = fewer iThefts.
/or we could blame the people stealing cash.
/I mean, they gotta own a chunk of that statistic.
 
2013-01-01 11:46:58 AM  
It isn't a problem. Trust me!

Sent from Some Other Guy's iPhone
 
2013-01-01 12:27:28 PM  
I've had quite a few apple products stolen from me in NYC. I stopped calling the cops after a while, so I'd imagine many more go unreported.
 
2013-01-01 12:41:16 PM  
i.somethingawful.com

/relevant, given the headline and location
 
2013-01-01 01:14:40 PM  

okiemule: [i.somethingawful.com image 450x600]

/relevant, given the headline and location


Even though I understand why they'd put that billboard up, with "raising the bar" following so close after "no signal", Facepalm Guy in the foreground still made me chuckle.
 
2013-01-01 01:22:43 PM  

theflatline: As someone who works for the carrier with the largest number of iphones let me break it down for you on how 90% off iphone theft works.

1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters  when they are shopping.

2. If an iphone user does have it in their purse or pocket, the first thing they do is take it out and sit in in front of them on the table so everyone can see it.

I get it now !
It's like women in short skirts and tight blouses .
They're just asking for it .

 
2013-01-01 01:39:56 PM  
unwanted children arent a factor are they
 
2013-01-01 01:47:24 PM  
When will Bloomberg demand a ban on I-phones?
 
2013-01-01 02:23:53 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: theflatline: As someone who works for the carrier with the largest number of iphones let me break it down for you on how 90% off iphone theft works.

1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters  when they are shopping.

2. If an iphone user does have it in their purse or pocket, the first thing they do is take it out and sit in in front of them on the table so everyone can see it.

I get it now !
It's like women in short skirts and tight blouses .
They're just asking for it .


more like a strip club without bouncers
 
2013-01-01 02:30:09 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: theflatline: As someone who works for the carrier with the largest number of iphones let me break it down for you on how 90% off iphone theft works.

1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters  when they are shopping.

2. If an iphone user does have it in their purse or pocket, the first thing they do is take it out and sit in in front of them on the table so everyone can see it.

I get it now !
It's like women in short skirts and tight blouses .
They're just asking for it .

When I am reviewing accounts when I talk managerial escalations the majority of th time there was a call two days before saying something like "left phone in bathroom, on counter, went back was missing, customer will wait a few days before suspension."

Then two days after  they call in "my phone is stolen you guys better track it." Or the mom refuses to beleive the snowflake was out and about and left their phone on a table.  Easier to tell moms someone stole it.

For some reason Iphone users expect to be coddled even through they are the rudest customers I have to deal with on a whole.
 
2013-01-01 02:34:56 PM  
The simple solution is to give everyone the right to have a free iPhone. Just have a government agency issue a coupon that you can take to the Apple store and get one. If everyone has an iPhone, they won't get stolen. The reduction in crime and associated costs will be worth it.
 
2013-01-01 03:05:53 PM  

TWX: but if the cops feel that trafficking in stolen merchandise worth several hundred dollars is worth pursuing...


they certainly do pursue theft of merchandise worth hundreds.

the problem is they don't give a fark at all about theft of personal property worth hundreds or even thousands
 
2013-01-01 03:32:28 PM  
New Yorkers love in a state of constant fear.
 
2013-01-01 04:20:30 PM  

Nemo's Brother: New Yorkers love in a state of constant fear.


da fuq?
 
2013-01-01 05:15:51 PM  
Is there a practical tether or recoiler solution to prevent/discourage theft? I remember when teenagers had wallet chains attaching their wallet to their pants. I'd imagine it'd be possible to make a cell phone case with a strong recoiling cable attached to the case at one end, and to a belt loop at the other. This would make theft difficult whether you're using it or it's in your pocket. The case would have to be hard to remove so it doesn't just break off when they grab your phone and pull.

A simpler solution would be strong wrist strap that either attaches securely to your phone (e.g. through a hole designed for this) or to a case (which again is hard to remove). This of course would only help if your phone was in your hand, and you'd have to slide your hand through the strap every time you take it out in a dangerous place, but I think it would be more practical. Either solution would also prevent phone drops.

If any farker reads this and then brings a product to market, I'll gladly take my 20% for giving you the idea.
 
2013-01-01 05:41:04 PM  
i877.photobucket.com

Thieves can spot these from 2 blocks away.
 
2013-01-01 06:41:10 PM  

theflatline: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: theflatline: As someone who works for the carrier with the largest number of iphones let me break it down for you on how 90% off iphone theft works.

1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters  when they are shopping.

2. If an iphone user does have it in their purse or pocket, the first thing they do is take it out and sit in in front of them on the table so everyone can see it.

I get it now !
It's like women in short skirts and tight blouses .
They're just asking for it .
When I am reviewing accounts when I talk managerial escalations the majority of th time there was a call two days before saying something like "left phone in bathroom, on counter, went back was missing, customer will wait a few days before suspension."

Then two days after  they call in "my phone is stolen you guys better track it." Or the mom refuses to beleive the snowflake was out and about and left their phone on a table.  Easier to tell moms someone stole it.

For some reason Iphone users expect to be coddled even through they are the rudest customers I have to deal with on a whole.


If you give them the same condescending attitude you show on here, they are probably responding to your rudeness.
 
2013-01-01 08:11:27 PM  
It is easy as hell to get a stolen GSM phone, at least At&t, to work.

CDMA, not so much.

Try again, tecnoderpmitter.
 
2013-01-01 09:13:07 PM  

bingethinker: theflatline: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: theflatline: As someone who works for the carrier with the largest number of iphones let me break it down for you on how 90% off iphone theft works.

1. Because Iphones seem to carry a magical power that makes iphone users carrier them in their hands instead of in their pockets or purses, they are prone to leave them in taxis, on tables, at bars, and counters  when they are shopping.

2. If an iphone user does have it in their purse or pocket, the first thing they do is take it out and sit in in front of them on the table so everyone can see it.

I get it now !
It's like women in short skirts and tight blouses .
They're just asking for it .
When I am reviewing accounts when I talk managerial escalations the majority of th time there was a call two days before saying something like "left phone in bathroom, on counter, went back was missing, customer will wait a few days before suspension."

Then two days after  they call in "my phone is stolen you guys better track it." Or the mom refuses to beleive the snowflake was out and about and left their phone on a table.  Easier to tell moms someone stole it.

For some reason Iphone users expect to be coddled even through they are the rudest customers I have to deal with on a whole.

If you give them the same condescending attitude you show on here, they are probably responding to your rudeness.


We never give them a condescending tude I get

1. Apple said you would give us a new phone.
2. We left the phone somewhere you should tell us where it is.
3.  i just got a 4s 3 months ago, give me an iphone 5.

Wait, you are an apple shill Bingie boy.
 
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