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2013-01-01 05:58:01 AM  

Clutch2013: Tickle Mittens: Fark It: Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.

There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.

Terrible, just terrible. It's getting so you can't even take a movie like Face/Off seriously.

Actually, it was Broken Arrow where Travolta had a 93R.


Oh, so now we're going to bring "facts" into this?!
 
2013-01-01 06:00:44 AM  
ts1.mm.bing.net

Yeah, I played this game. It was fun. There was a mission where you have to bump someone off during the 4th of July, because the fireworks would cover up the sound of the gunshots. Simple yet clever.
 
2013-01-01 06:09:52 AM  

HotWingAgenda: Jesus Christ.  We can't go a f*cking month without some motherf*cker going on a murder spree in a public place.  How the fark did we keep it together long enough to survive World War II?  And the Cold War?


It's really escalted since Sandy Hook. People want to, er, go out with a bang.
 
2013-01-01 06:13:49 AM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS91knuzoOA


Nothing is fundamentally wrong with our culture. Gun control, will fill the void.

And when you gaze long into an abyss the abyss also gazes into you.

Happy New Year.
 
2013-01-01 06:14:27 AM  

mgshamster: Holy shiat. The only reason my wife and I weren't there tonight is because we cancelled our party plans on account that she is pregnant.

/just found out two weeks ago
//our first


Being in the early stages of pregnancy prevents you from going to public events?

Just giving you a hard time. Congrats. I just recently myself became an aunt.
 
2013-01-01 06:15:12 AM  
it just hit 12.12 here in Sweden. I just woke up, ffs. I haven't even had coffee.

I hope your country gets better.

Really, really hope.
 
2013-01-01 06:23:41 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: JSam21:The people that have shot all their lives are lazy and lack discipline. I use proper mechanics when training at all times, including blue gun (plastic gun) drills. If you don't practice use of the Universal Cover Mode, i.e. indexing your trigger finger, treat every firearm as it is loaded, even the fake training weapons, and shoot or train at least once a month... then don't carry or handle a firearm please.

It shocked me when I realized how many people who own firearms don't know what "indexing your trigger finger" even means. Holy crapola! Are they serious? The last thing I would want to do is "accidentally" shoot someone, so I always index. It would devastate me to harm another human without a very good cause, and I'm still not sure I could do that. I'd probably try and get away as fast as I could. I'm also of the opinion there is no such thing as an accidental shooting, just a very stupid one. That just shouldn't be.

I'm stupid about a lot of things. We can't all know everything. However, I am not stupid with my firearms or any other weapon I own. The biggest problem is that the stupid people don't know they're stupid or they deny they are stupid, even when it is pointed out to them. That is highly disturbing.


I agree... the term accidental discharge should only apply to lap dances. If your firearm discharges... you did something to make it do that.
 
2013-01-01 06:26:34 AM  
Wow, the Tree of Liberty is thirty. God bless these citizens who died for the rights of other citizens to go around shooting other citizens, especially little children. Oh, yes, and to keep Zombie King George out of America.
 
2013-01-01 06:28:00 AM  

jso2897: Oh joy. Another Goddamned, motherf**king gun thread.
[i18.photobucket.com image 384x400]


Such a cute little target!
 
2013-01-01 06:31:15 AM  

gh0strid3r: All you lowlife jackasses that keep purposely misspelling "AMERICA" can die in a fire. Slowly.

/American Vet
//Not what I fought for


Well, what DID you fight for? Obviously it wasn't for Freedom of Speech.
 
2013-01-01 06:32:32 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: JSam21:The people that have shot all their lives are lazy and lack discipline. I use proper mechanics when training at all times, including blue gun (plastic gun) drills. If you don't practice use of the Universal Cover Mode, i.e. indexing your trigger finger, treat every firearm as it is loaded, even the fake training weapons, and shoot or train at least once a month... then don't carry or handle a firearm please.

It shocked me when I realized how many people who own firearms don't know what "indexing your trigger finger" even means. Holy crapola! Are they serious? The last thing I would want to do is "accidentally" shoot someone, so I always index. It would devastate me to harm another human without a very good cause, and I'm still not sure I could do that. I'd probably try and get away as fast as I could. I'm also of the opinion there is no such thing as an accidental shooting, just a very stupid one. That just shouldn't be.

I'm stupid about a lot of things. We can't all know everything. However, I am not stupid with my firearms or any other weapon I own. The biggest problem is that the stupid people don't know they're stupid or they deny they are stupid, even when it is pointed out to them. That is highly disturbing.


You only know what you know. That's why I'm in favor of mandatory classes for all firearms purchases. You pick up your gun on a set day at a firing range and take the class before you leave. If you can show you've taken a class within 2 years of your purchase of that type of weapon, handgun, rifle, shotgun, then you're good to go. If not, you have take the class again. It will keep firearms safety fresh in the minds of all those that purchase firearms without adding further restrictions on purchasing them.
 
2013-01-01 06:37:12 AM  

ghare: gh0strid3r: All you lowlife jackasses that keep purposely misspelling "AMERICA" can die in a fire. Slowly.

/American Vet
//Not what I fought for

Well, what DID you fight for? Obviously it wasn't for Freedom of Speech.


That's the thing that gets me. That is exactly what he fought for.
 
2013-01-01 06:47:32 AM  

JSam21: That's the thing that gets me. That is exactly what he fought for.


maybe he fought for cheeseVelveeta.
 
2013-01-01 06:47:48 AM  
I'll sadly leave this here.

again....

and I don't want to collect.

there is something seriously wrong with Gunmerica...and Guntards.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-01 06:52:27 AM  
California has the strictest gun laws in the country, how could this happen??
 
2013-01-01 06:54:50 AM  

JSam21: ghare: gh0strid3r: All you lowlife jackasses that keep purposely misspelling "AMERICA" can die in a fire. Slowly.

/American Vet
//Not what I fought for

Well, what DID you fight for? Obviously it wasn't for Freedom of Speech.

That's the thing that gets me. That is exactly what he fought for.


maybe he fought the cold war so he could buy commie jeans?from CHINA?
no?
maybe he fought to keep weapons of mass destruction from getting into Dumberica? SO HE COULD LIBERATE THE MIDDLE EAST?
nope...?
maybe he fought to keep the Nazi guys from building Nasa or enriching the CIA?
nope...?
maybe he smuggled heroin out of 'Nam in the corpse of a friend?
nope...?


"And it's one, two, three,
What are we fighting for ?
Don't ask me, I don't give a damn,
Next stop is Vietnam;
And it's five, six, seven,
Open up the pearly gates,
Well there ain't no time to wonder why,
Whoopee! we're all gonna die. "

etc...

/the guys that fight the hardest, talk the least.
//go put yer shoes on...
 
2013-01-01 06:57:04 AM  
Another thing that urks me is the prohibitively high cost to get good training for anything other than bullets go here, point this way, pull this, repeat type training. Advanced hand gun classes are $200 for 8 hours in my area. You have to supply your own ammunition, minimum 300 rounds per class which easily adds another $90 to the class cost. $300 for an 8 hour class? No wonder no one gets proper training.
 
2013-01-01 06:59:51 AM  

octopied: HotWingAgenda: Jesus Christ.  We can't go a f*cking month without some motherf*cker going on a murder spree in a public place.  How the fark did we keep it together long enough to survive World War II?  And the Cold War?

It's really escalted since Sandy Hook. People want to, er, go out with a bang.


i'd blame the media puking it up every thirty seconds to scare the left and empower the right to arm themselves...
making heroes out of zeros..
could be that every film made in Gunmerica has a douche with a gun on it.
except for sleepless in Seattle..but that was probably some kinda mistake...

but i really know it's just video games..

and c'mon, you need those guns to stop monsters from turning you all into slaves by controlling your democracy, devaluing your currency and going all fascist on you by turning your country into a police state...

so you guys keep arming up...SPOILER ALERT the monster already won...

Happy New Year Gunmericans, stay safe...
 
2013-01-01 07:02:17 AM  

JSam21: Another thing that urks me is the prohibitively high cost to get good training for anything other than bullets go here, point this way, pull this, repeat type training. Advanced hand gun classes are $200 for 8 hours in my area. You have to supply your own ammunition, minimum 300 rounds per class which easily adds another $90 to the class cost. $300 for an 8 hour class? No wonder no one gets proper training.


oh the high price of learning to kill people LOL.

/poor you
//as long as you got your generator oiled up and the big teevee goin, with lots of ammo you can just laugh...
 
2013-01-01 07:10:26 AM  

Haliburton Cummings: JSam21: Another thing that urks me is the prohibitively high cost to get good training for anything other than bullets go here, point this way, pull this, repeat type training. Advanced hand gun classes are $200 for 8 hours in my area. You have to supply your own ammunition, minimum 300 rounds per class which easily adds another $90 to the class cost. $300 for an 8 hour class? No wonder no one gets proper training.

oh the high price of learning to kill people LOL.

/poor you
//as long as you got your generator oiled up and the big teevee goin, with lots of ammo you can just laugh...


Not a gun nut. Not a prepper. I have to carry a gun on my hip everyday at work. It is part of my job. God forbid I would like to have the best training so in the unfortunate chance that I have to use my firearm in the line of duty, I will only ventilate my intended target and not innocent bystanders that happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Not everyone that lives in America that owns a gun is a "doomsday prepper gun nut". It would like me saying that everyone from Spain runs with bulls, enjoys exploring the ocean via sailboat, and makes a mean paella.
 
2013-01-01 07:15:21 AM  

JSam21: everyone from Spain runs with bulls, enjoys exploring the ocean via sailboat, and makes a mean paella.


They do? TO SPAIN!
 
2013-01-01 07:15:58 AM  

JSam21: Haliburton Cummings: JSam21:

Not everyone that lives in America that owns a gun is a "doomsday prepper gun nut". It would like me saying that everyone from Spain runs with bulls, enjoys exploring the ocean via sailboat, and makes a mean paella.


point taken but i have a hard time listening to your price point gripe in a thread about another pointless shooting.

i also have yet to see anyone with a firearm be able to control the background in a situation like that regardless of practice..
but, i'll give you points for a lucid and polite reply and considering the importance of being a good shot if the need arises..

YOU may not be a gun nut...but most are..

it's the generator nuts that scare me...

HNY!
 
2013-01-01 07:16:21 AM  

Fark It: Gyrfalcon: It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.

Just wait. Tomorrow it will be a high-capacity assault pistol with extended clips, like this one:

[cdn.ammoland.com image 600x448]


Hey I own that gun! (blued and with plastic grips)
 
2013-01-01 07:21:20 AM  
for the record, I am not from Spain...

Almeria is where they shot all the spaghetti westerns...not the homoerotic genocide based Gunmerican westerns...

"just gay dudes in a tent,
killing Indians for rent.."

but I do love the troll attempts. those are almost as good as the "member since" trolls...

"i have more friends on friendster and I had the first gmail " yaddda yaddda....etc

/John Wayne was a nazi
//John Wayne repo man quote here
///Marion...his name was Marion...
 
2013-01-01 07:22:13 AM  

Bio-nic: Fark It: Gyrfalcon: It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.

Just wait. Tomorrow it will be a high-capacity assault pistol with extended clips, like this one:

[cdn.ammoland.com image 600x448]

Hey I own that gun! (blued and with plastic grips)


OH YAY!

100/100!
 
2013-01-01 07:22:16 AM  

Moriel: eraser8: At least we can come together on one thing:  capital punishment is murder and should be abolished.

In principle, I actually support capital punishment. I certainly see no reason that murderers and rapists should not be put to death. But as a practical matter, the death penalty is applied in racist ways and without a high enough standard of evidence, and I really have no hope that will ever change, and for this reason I can't support the death penalty.


If you make rape a capital offense, it means there's no downside, and lots of upside, to the rapist killing the victim.
 
2013-01-01 07:22:17 AM  
"Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

WTF!
 
2013-01-01 07:22:42 AM  

Haliburton Cummings: JSam21: Haliburton Cummings: JSam21:

Not everyone that lives in America that owns a gun is a "doomsday prepper gun nut". It would like me saying that everyone from Spain runs with bulls, enjoys exploring the ocean via sailboat, and makes a mean paella.

point taken but i have a hard time listening to your price point gripe in a thread about another pointless shooting.

i also have yet to see anyone with a firearm be able to control the background in a situation like that regardless of practice..
but, i'll give you points for a lucid and polite reply and considering the importance of being a good shot if the need arises..

YOU may not be a gun nut...but most are..

it's the generator nuts that scare me...

HNY!


Most people are "nuts" about something. The gripe about price point was in reference to training availability. Most studies show that higher Levels of training lead to more responsible use of firearms.
 
2013-01-01 07:24:50 AM  

Speaker2Animals: Moriel: eraser8: At least we can come together on one thing:  capital punishment is murder and should be abolished.

In principle, I actually support capital punishment. I certainly see no reason that murderers and rapists should not be put to death. But as a practical matter, the death penalty is applied in racist ways and without a high enough standard of evidence, and I really have no hope that will ever change, and for this reason I can't support the death penalty.

If you make rape a capital offense, it means there's no downside, and lots of upside, to the rapist killing the victim.


well legalize rape then?

"more rape victims are alive because..it's..uh..not a capitol offence"


/shakes head
 
2013-01-01 07:30:30 AM  
good thing subby is on scene. because it added so much information to this thread
 
2013-01-01 07:35:37 AM  
It's a good thing we had that bystander to let us know what type odds gun it was. "Sounded like a glock" I didn't know you could identify the brand of handgun by the way it sounded.
 
2013-01-01 07:53:47 AM  

m1gunr: California has the strictest gun laws in the country, how could this happen??


An armed society is a polite society.
Unless the guns are provided by the Russians, then these armed people are just barbaric.

www.nypost.com
 
2013-01-01 08:04:55 AM  
Just got on Fark and read the headline FTFA. Two people killed isn't multiple. That's not a story. Why so many comments? There were 'two people killed' in my trailer park alone last night, probubly.
 
2013-01-01 08:11:49 AM  
Article doesn't say and a cursory check of other news sites doesn't even mention the event so I'm guessing, repeat guessing, that it was a bunch of gangbangers of one stripe or another having one of their usual chest thumping sessions. As probably happens several dozen times a year, someone 'busted a cap' and the game was on. The dead/wounded were probably bystanders.

Before the Connecticut shooting, this would have a hard time making anything other than the local papers. Why it becomes a 'flash' on Fark now is anyone's guess.
 
2013-01-01 08:16:06 AM  

Tyranicle: Just got on Fark and read the headline FTFA. Two people killed isn't multiple. That's not a story. Why so many comments? There were 'two people killed' in my trailer park alone last night, probubly.


One death is a tragedy. A million is a statistic.
 
2013-01-01 08:19:09 AM  

Tyranicle: Two people killed isn't multiple.


Unsure whether you don't understand math, or English. Twins are "multiple births."
 
2013-01-01 08:19:39 AM  
I'm just thankful I don't live in France.  Anytime a truck backfires they all raise their hands and surrender.
 
2013-01-01 08:27:50 AM  

Tyranicle: Just got on Fark and read the headline FTFA. Two people killed isn't multiple. That's not a story. Why so many comments? There were 'two people killed' in my trailer park alone last night, probubly.


Because people are pretending that this kind of tragedy is new.
It's another shooting sponsored by the good old drug war, and it happens daily.

/obviously this means the law abiding must give something else up in the name of security.
/when prohibition was driving violence, we didn't run around looking for things to blame. We repealed a bad policy and moved on.
 
2013-01-01 08:28:00 AM  

m1gunr: California has the strictest gun laws in the country, how could this happen??


Already covered downthread.
 
2013-01-01 08:30:33 AM  
Is this enough, people?

Have we had enough people killed by easy access handguns yet?

Have seen enough dead people yet?

How many people have to die before we finally admit that our obsession with handguns is to blame?

You're not Dirty Harry, John McClain, Rambo, or Jason Bourne. This is not a movie. The government is not going to turn into a dictatorship if handguns are banned.

How many people are we going to bury before we finally ban these things? Do you all need someone close to you shot and killed at one of these events before you'll see how destructive they are? Do you need to lose a wife? A child? A mother? A father? What's it going to take for you to abandon your gun fantasies?
 
2013-01-01 08:39:21 AM  
I won't make this into a religious post. However, the way that I think everyone should live their lives is seen in Luke 6:31, Do unto others, as you would have do unto you.

We had two shootings locally here last night too. It is a gun issue, but a bigger issue is the humanity issue.
 
2013-01-01 08:39:54 AM  

Infernalist: Is this enough, people?

Have we had enough people killed by easy access handguns yet?

Have seen enough dead people yet?

How many people have to die before we finally admit that our obsession with handguns is to blame?

You're not Dirty Harry, John McClain, Rambo, or Jason Bourne. This is not a movie. The government is not going to turn into a dictatorship if handguns are banned.

How many people are we going to bury before we finally ban these things? Do you all need someone close to you shot and killed at one of these events before you'll see how destructive they are? Do you need to lose a wife? A child? A mother? A father? What's it going to take for you to abandon your gun fantasies?


Handgun ban will stop gangland shootings?
 
2013-01-01 08:39:55 AM  

Infernalist: Is this enough, people?

Have we had enough people killed by easy access handguns yet?

Have seen enough dead people yet?

How many people have to die before we finally admit that our obsession with handguns is to blame?

You're not Dirty Harry, John McClain, Rambo, or Jason Bourne. This is not a movie. The government is not going to turn into a dictatorship if handguns are banned.

How many people are we going to bury before we finally ban these things? Do you all need someone close to you shot and killed at one of these events before you'll see how destructive they are? Do you need to lose a wife? A child? A mother? A father? What's it going to take for you to abandon your gun fantasies?


Your plan is to take guns away from legal owners and leave them in the hands of the very criminals and cops that drive shooting statistics.
You haven't seen a body count yet.

/I live in a place that tried it your way.
/we went from less than ten murders a year to an average of sixty.
/unless you are ready to dump serious money into heavily armed cops, be ready for more violence on the news.
 
2013-01-01 08:43:53 AM  

kriegfusion: Better a mass shooting everyday killing a handful of people than throwing undesirables into ovens, starving millions through bad policy and neglect, or outright mass extermination through labor camps or ethnic cleansing. Yeah I wish these shootings didn't happen, but the alternative is infinitely worse. Let people be shot daily, I won't change my factually based, historically sound opinion one millimeter.

when unchecked tyranny comes, the gun control advocates will give up the arms their leaders will use to execute them with.


You people are either woefully ignorant, or willfully delusional, to use Nazi Germany as an example. The unarmed German populace didn't want to be armed, they were perfectly happy having the Nazis run things, as long as all hostility was focused on the Jews, Communists, Gypsies, Jehovah's Witnesses, labor advocates, and others who didn't fit into the Aryan ideal. Gun control was a non-issue in Nazi Germany. Labor camps and ethnic cleansing were accomplished using propaganda and hatred of specific groups (similar to the way Fox News works).
 
2013-01-01 08:44:13 AM  
Oh please. Just shut the fark up.
 
2013-01-01 08:44:27 AM  
The bystander who was quoted saying "It sounded like a Glock" needs to be slapped.

If there exists such a finely tuned ear within the human race that can tell the make of a hand gun just by its' sound, I would love to meet that person.

"That was a .38 special, ++p, coming out of a S&W Bodyguard, with.... yes... is that a Crimson Trace hand grip laser as well? Yeeesssssss......"
 
2013-01-01 08:45:09 AM  

m1gunr: California has the strictest gun laws in the country, how could this happen??


I always wonder about people like you. Do you think that the border is made of magic and people can't just ignore reasonable gun laws in one state by walking across the border to a state with unreasonable gun laws so as to arm themselves in ways that would otherwise have been illegal? Or do you just ignore the fact that "strictest" is relative and still relies heavily on the fact that it's by comparison to the rest of the country which, by and large, has no real restrictions to speak of until you start talking about things like anti tank guns and artillery?

Clarify your derp, please.
 
2013-01-01 08:46:21 AM  

lordjupiter: Oh please. Just shut the fark up.



That was directed at the 2nd Amendment obsessed farkturds who keep bleating these paranoid apocalypse theories, distorted stats and bullshiat analogies.

Shut up. You're a liar. Guns aren't cars or bats or knives or anything else. We're not listening to your bullshiat anymore.
 
2013-01-01 08:47:21 AM  
Guns are part of America forever. Even if every firearm from BB gun up was banned, it would be a logistical impossibility to round them up and dispose of them.

The amusing thing here is the way that the sorts of people who are trying to make gun ownership immoral are the licentious ones who gave up any claim to morality long ago.

They're not bad people, mind you. They just scoffed at the idea of right and wrong existing in the first place. Everything is supposed to be relative. It depends on the situation, you see.

Except if the situation looks like a responsible, law abiding citizen having posession of a given inaminate object.

Whoa boy! Looks like somebody just got a case of the absolute right and wrongs.
 
2013-01-01 08:48:38 AM  

Infernalist: Is this enough, people?

Have we had enough people killed by easy access handguns yet?

Have seen enough dead people yet?

How many people have to die before we finally admit that our obsession with handguns is to blame?

You're not Dirty Harry, John McClain, Rambo, or Jason Bourne. This is not a movie. The government is not going to turn into a dictatorship if handguns are banned.

How many people are we going to bury before we finally ban these things? Do you all need someone close to you shot and killed at one of these events before you'll see how destructive they are? Do you need to lose a wife? A child? A mother? A father? What's it going to take for you to abandon your gun fantasies?


How does that end anything?
 
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