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(CBS Sacramento) NewsFlash Shots fired in Sacramento during NYE celebration, multiple people killed. Fireworks cancelled and Old Town Sacramento being evacuated. Subby on site (Updated article w/video)   (sacramento.cbslocal.com) divider line 822
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2013-01-01 02:46:50 AM  
'male hispanic'

Fire UP. UP. IN THE AIR.Disparar el arma AL AIRE.

That's all su madre could ask, idiota.
 
2013-01-01 02:46:54 AM  
The only solution here is to ban videogams and arm bartenders.
 
2013-01-01 02:47:05 AM  

Luminiferous Aether: I see that this thread is full of reasonable individuals who certainly have a reasonable excuse to post.



10/10

9 / 11
 
2013-01-01 02:47:23 AM  

DogLee: Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene.

So illegal or gang member?


Don't be stupid.

There's no reason he can't be both.
 
2013-01-01 02:48:41 AM  

some_beer_drinker: this will keep happening until we beg the government to take our guns. just wait. one more week, maybe two. one way or another...you gonna get disarmed...la la la la, la...lolololololololo


Well, congress needs something to occupy it between episodes of Fiscal CliffTM.
 
2013-01-01 02:49:21 AM  

SubBass49: mgshamster: Holy shiat. The only reason my wife and I weren't there tonight is because we cancelled our party plans on account that she is pregnant.

/just found out two weeks ago
//our first

Congrats man!!! You're in for one hell of a year!!! (sleep now while you still can - advice from a father of 2)


Thanks, man.

/and stay safe, subs
 
2013-01-01 02:49:25 AM  
I was just at a sporting goods store today. In California. There were guns for sale. In California.
 
2013-01-01 02:49:58 AM  

eraser8: Moriel: In principle, I actually support capital punishment.

Yet, you claimed that another Farker's support of capital punishment made him, "no better than a murderer."


I said he was no better than a murderer for declaring that he'd like to pass a law knowing and intending that it's effect would be killing large numbers of people.


Also, it's insane to put rapists to death for that crime.  All that does is provide a powerful incentive for rapists to kill their victims.

Don't bother. I used to work at a rape and domestic violence shelter here in Houston, so I've seen the consequences of rape first hand. A lot of people say that harsher penalties would encourage rapists to kill their victims and I say that's bullshiat. A lot of rapists already try that anyway. And right now we have a system that bascially lets rapists get away with their crimes entirely! You want to know how seriously rape is treated? Google for "unopened rape kit" Go, I dare you. I'll make it easy for you, even:

unopened rape kit

This country doesn't treat rape seriously and probably won't until we have our own moment like India is having right now.

Like I said, ultimately I oppose the death penalty, but we could at least mandate life in prison for rapists instead of the 2 year minimum we have here in Texas right now.
 
2013-01-01 02:50:20 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: DogLee: Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene.

So illegal or gang member?

Don't be stupid.

There's no reason he can't be both.


If he's headed toward the river he's a dumbass. Easy to get caught there.

Not that he wasn't a farking piece of shiat to begin with. farkload of people with kids in Old Sac tonight, and where that bar is is across from the crossing and tunnel to most of the parking down there. He pretty much couldn't have picked a more crowded place to do that. :-(
 
2013-01-01 02:50:34 AM  
Why oh why... I am getting so sick of this. And the bad thing is they could ban all the guns and this would STILL happen.
 
2013-01-01 02:50:39 AM  

Gosling: And this is the anti-gun argument in a nutshell. The law-abiding gun owners may vastly outnumber the nuts, but there are enough nuts out there to ruin it for everyone.


And those nuts will still get guns, no matter what laws are put into place. The only people hampered by banning guns are law abiding citizens. There are 300 million+ guns in the US right now, there will be no way to get them all off the streets. There are already background checks required to buy a gun. Trying to outright ban guns will not work, especially in this country which owes its existence to citizens owning guns.
 
2013-01-01 02:50:41 AM  

Sid_6.7: This is why we can't have nice things.
.


Hispanics or guns?

Inb4 i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-01 02:50:49 AM  
is dick clark ok?
 
2013-01-01 02:51:18 AM  
Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene

Figures.
 
2013-01-01 02:51:55 AM  
I think the solution should be armed guards placed in all bars.
 
2013-01-01 02:52:31 AM  

Anthracite: Why oh why... I am getting so sick of this. And the bad thing is they could ban all the guns and this would STILL happen.


Arabs on 9/11, Latinos on 12/31. Clearly we need to ban all non muricans.
 
2013-01-01 02:52:42 AM  
Sounds like another angry young white gun nut again.
 
2013-01-01 02:53:11 AM  

some_beer_drinker: is dick clark ok?


I'm afraid...I have some bad news. You may want to sit down.
 
2013-01-01 02:53:14 AM  

cybrwzrd: Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.


I wish I could hate fark this troll post.

/And a splendid New Years to you, my good man.
 
2013-01-01 02:53:47 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?

Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm



Yeah, I knew that but I just felt like poking the bear. Only got one taker but there was math involved and I've been drinking so I ignored it.

/yay vodak!
 
2013-01-01 02:53:59 AM  
Immigrants. Cramming their low riders full of free healthcare and... snow.
 
2013-01-01 02:54:12 AM  

belhade: Real Women Drink Akvavit: So glad I opted out of that this year. Went to my friend's NYE party instead. I can't picture myself in a fight in Old Sac, though. I'm more of the "Run away! Run away! and if  you can't, then, and only then, do you fight" type. Damn. I wonder what the back story on this is?

Sounds to me like a good old-fashioned bar fight gone bad, probably a 9mm pistol.


I've been caught in a couple of those, just without the gunfire. Like I said, "Run away! Run away!"

I've never had a problem in Old Sac, though. It's a straight shot from the Salvation Army and Friendship Park on the light rail to get within very easy walking distance, plus it's a tourist trap, so you get a lot of homeless in the area for panhandling purposes. They're not usually a problem, though. It always surprises me when I hear about things like this out there, even though I lived in  that area for years before moving to the 'burbs with my family. It's such a cool area, so it really does give me a sad to hear about things like this.

Heh. 7 minutes til the New Year here. Gotta put  some lip balm on and get ready to pucker up.

Stay safe, subs! Check in with us later, please!
 
2013-01-01 02:54:31 AM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.


It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.
 
2013-01-01 02:55:02 AM  

BadReligion: There are already background checks required to buy a gun.


Those background checks are laughably easy to clear, it appears.
 
2013-01-01 02:56:42 AM  

Tank_Fuzzbutt: Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene

Figures.


Color me surprised.  Seeing that this was in Sac, I just assumed it would be blah people.
 
2013-01-01 02:56:54 AM  

Gosling: BadReligion: There are already background checks required to buy a gun.

Those background checks are laughably easy to clear, it appears.


For someone with no criminal background they sure are.
 
2013-01-01 02:57:07 AM  

lady_nocturne: If he's headed toward the river he's a dumbass. Easy to get caught there.


When I was in Rio on either Ipanema or Copacabana beach I forget which, the 'police' were chasing someone that had a gun and he did the same thing, ran right past us to the water.
What's up with that? Naturally he got caught.
 
2013-01-01 02:58:58 AM  

C18H27NO3: lady_nocturne: If he's headed toward the river he's a dumbass. Easy to get caught there.

When I was in Rio on either Ipanema or Copacabana beach I forget which, the 'police' were chasing someone that had a gun and he did the same thing, ran right past us to the water.
What's up with that? Naturally he got caught.

Maybe he thought the police were scared of the water, like a cat or something.
 
2013-01-01 02:59:15 AM  

BadReligion: For someone with no criminal background they sure are.


Obvious solution: pre-crime background checks. Where are we on the whole "giving people psychic powers" thing?
 
2013-01-01 02:59:54 AM  
Horrible way to spend New Years. Be safe.

Ban guns.. Ban guns.. RAH Polly want a cracker? So when we ban all of the guns and the criminals that already ignore every other law banning theft, drugs, etc continue to have them then what? Or say we confiscate them all and then crazy spouses or unhinged people on psych meds start driving cars through pedestrian zones and into crowded restaurants, then what? When do we ban banning stuff and realize this is due to our allowing crazy people to roam the streets while medicated rather than locking them up in Happy Farms Sanitarium?

FWIW I am not "pro gun" or a political righty. I just don't see the logic in banning one thing after another to address the real issue that America is doing a piss poor job with mantal illness. Sane gun owners, like sane drivers of cars and sane pilots are not causing mass murders. Crazy people are and its about time we start dealing with crazy instead of dealing with the implements they pick up.

/$.02
//off my soapbox now
///A very happy, safe and bountiful 2013 to you all
 
2013-01-01 03:00:09 AM  
Happy farking new year?
 
2013-01-01 03:00:12 AM  
Jesus, who was it on scene? Is he/she safe?
Hit the deck, subby, and report back when the all clear sounds.
 
2013-01-01 03:00:41 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: BadReligion: For someone with no criminal background they sure are.

Obvious solution: pre-crime background checks. Where are we on the whole "giving people psychic powers" thing?


We are building the human tanks, but the ball dispenser is proving tricky.
 
2013-01-01 03:01:37 AM  

Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.


There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.
 
2013-01-01 03:01:49 AM  
Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.
 
2013-01-01 03:01:56 AM  
Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.
 
2013-01-01 03:02:45 AM  

Fark It: Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.

There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.


And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?
 
2013-01-01 03:03:58 AM  
ZOMG IM IN CALIFORNIA AND JUST HEARD LIKE A MILLION SHOTS RING OUT!
 
2013-01-01 03:04:04 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.


Yes, something tells me the Hispanic guy who started a gunfight in a bar was the legal owner of that handgun.
 
2013-01-01 03:04:15 AM  

BadReligion: And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?


Tow truck drivers?
 
2013-01-01 03:04:23 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.


lulz
 
2013-01-01 03:04:56 AM  

Moriel: BadReligion: And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?

Tow truck drivers?


Zing!
 
2013-01-01 03:04:57 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.


Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.
 
2013-01-01 03:06:32 AM  

BadReligion: Fark It: Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.

There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.

And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?


Their 92FS clones are supposed to be decent, but that's only because they're built on old Beretta tooling. I'd be wary of any manufacturer that throws in a free NRA membership when you buy one of their pistols as a marketing ploy...
 
2013-01-01 03:06:54 AM  
Sad to see crazy never takes a holiday.
 
2013-01-01 03:07:04 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.


Opa gangland style
 
2013-01-01 03:07:19 AM  

BadReligion: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.

Yes, something tells me the Hispanic guy who started a gunfight in a bar was the legal owner of that handgun.


Pretty sure Hispanics can still own guns and go to bars.

/well, not in az but this was ca
 
2013-01-01 03:08:44 AM  
We need more Good Guys armed against the Bad Guys so that these things don't happen ...

(Or some other bullshiat reasoning from the perpetually pants-pissingly scared, infantile right wing, second amendment fundamentalist nutjobs).
 
2013-01-01 03:08:45 AM  

Gyrfalcon: It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.


Just wait. Tomorrow it will be a high-capacity assault pistol with extended clips, like this one:

cdn.ammoland.com
 
2013-01-01 03:09:11 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BadReligion: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.

Yes, something tells me the Hispanic guy who started a gunfight in a bar was the legal owner of that handgun.

Pretty sure Hispanics can still own guns and go to bars.

/well, not in az but this was ca


I am aware, but statistically gunfights like this are started by people, specifically gang bangers or drug dealers, that do not legally own their guns.
 
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