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(CBS Sacramento) NewsFlash Shots fired in Sacramento during NYE celebration, multiple people killed. Fireworks cancelled and Old Town Sacramento being evacuated. Subby on site (Updated article w/video)   ( sacramento.cbslocal.com) divider line
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2013-01-01 02:07:05 AM  
Murrika!

Stay safe, Subs.
 
2013-01-01 02:10:45 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.

marius2: Stay safe, Subs.


THIS.
 
2013-01-01 02:10:53 AM  
God, Guns and Guts.

That's what made Murica great.
 
2013-01-01 02:16:36 AM  
Farking hell I've had enough of this. Be safe, subby,
 
2013-01-01 02:17:08 AM  
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
2013-01-01 02:17:50 AM  
Keep your head down, subs.

That sucks.
 
2013-01-01 02:21:21 AM  
If you absolutely, positively need to shoot someone, make it yourself and leave others the hell alone.
 
2013-01-01 02:21:26 AM  
Holy crap! Stay safe subby!! :(
 
2013-01-01 02:21:40 AM  
Stay safe, submitter.

Helluva way to start the New Year.
 
2013-01-01 02:21:54 AM  
This is what happens when you take God out of fireworks displays.
 
2013-01-01 02:21:57 AM  
Guns are easy, gatherings are easy.

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2013-01-01 02:22:06 AM  
I toast the toast not the toaster.
 
2013-01-01 02:22:07 AM  
Be careful Subby!
 
2013-01-01 02:22:13 AM  
Subby:  Get to safe ground, then get back to this thread.  We want you back in one piece!
 
2013-01-01 02:22:41 AM  
You know what would have prevented this? More guns!

/sarcasm
//sigh
 
2013-01-01 02:23:00 AM  

Russ Feingold's Brass Balls: Guns are easy, gatherings are easy.

tomtomorrowguncartoon.jpg


Oh, and definitely keep your head down, subby.
 
2013-01-01 02:23:35 AM  
some people just want to watch the world burn....

be safe subs
 
2013-01-01 02:23:45 AM  
See? I told you Demarcus Cousins had to go.
 
2013-01-01 02:24:29 AM  
If we only had more guns, this wouldn't have happened..There would have been an even bigger
gunfight and more people killed while shooting drunkenly at each other...
 
2013-01-01 02:24:49 AM  
Goddam stupid motherfarkers...
 
2013-01-01 02:25:04 AM  
Sucks being in your shoes, Subby.
 
2013-01-01 02:25:18 AM  
Stay safe subby
 
2013-01-01 02:25:20 AM  
Asperger's, ban New years, put armed teachers there, obama, weird people,

i thought we'd figured this out already...
 
2013-01-01 02:25:38 AM  
So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?
 
2013-01-01 02:25:46 AM  
In before the Outraged RightTM blame the fireworks manufacturer.....

/Be safe, subs.
 
2013-01-01 02:25:52 AM  
Fark safe.
Get out there and report!
Geraldo would!!
 
2013-01-01 02:26:20 AM  
Yeah, this beat goes on
And on,
and on,
and on...

/switchin' to glide
 
2013-01-01 02:26:22 AM  

Mr. Shabooboo: If we only had more guns, this wouldn't have happened..There would have been an even bigger
gunfight and more people killed while shooting drunkenly at each other...


A sober shootout just isn't the same....
 
2013-01-01 02:26:30 AM  
Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.
 
2013-01-01 02:27:21 AM  
Keep your head down.
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2013-01-01 02:27:21 AM  
a lesson i learned in my teens:

if you're out on the town and gunfire can be heard, it's time to go home.

so, if you're around when gunfire erupts...don't start a thread. just leave.
 
2013-01-01 02:27:42 AM  
If people weren't allowed to gather together in one place, this wouldn't have happened. We should ban gatherings.
 
2013-01-01 02:28:35 AM  

cybrwzrd: Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.


Considering your profile says you are libertarian, that is awful big government of you.
 
2013-01-01 02:28:43 AM  
Again? I think this same thing happened there a couple years ago.
 
2013-01-01 02:28:43 AM  
This is what happens when you take God out of New Years.

We could easily prevent this kind of thing by arming our drunk revelers.
 
2013-01-01 02:29:13 AM  
Glad I got my snazzy 2012 Commemorative UnDERPants. They're bulletproof, also revelatory-joy-proof.

Oy Vey, what a year!
 
2013-01-01 02:29:21 AM  
Cant a guy have a little trolling fun on new years? SHH....
 
2013-01-01 02:29:23 AM  
I am getting really sick and tired of this. Stay safe subby.
 
2013-01-01 02:29:27 AM  

adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?


Here's how.

2=26÷13
 
2013-01-01 02:29:29 AM  

Sid_6.7: This is why we can't have nice things.

marius2: Stay safe, Subs.

THIS.


dingdingding
 
2013-01-01 02:29:33 AM  

make me some tea: This is why we can't have nice things.


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2013-01-01 02:29:52 AM  
Not this again.
 
2013-01-01 02:29:56 AM  
Goddammit, why can't people just act right?
 
2013-01-01 02:30:00 AM  

cybrwzrd: Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.


So how many people are you willing to kill in order to get rid of guns? 1 million? 10 million? All 90 million gun owning Americans?

You just declared yourself to be no better than a murderer.

/Sorry you and the others had to go through this subby. I hope no one you know was involved.
 
2013-01-01 02:30:19 AM  
because a constitution could never be wrong
 
2013-01-01 02:30:39 AM  
That last comment was directed at you BadReligion
 
2013-01-01 02:30:43 AM  
Hope you're safe, subby.
 
2013-01-01 02:30:55 AM  
Damn those violent video games straight to hell!
 
2013-01-01 02:30:55 AM  
Cue Wayne LaPierre press conference (complete with patented lip drool) with calls to have armed guards at all fireworks displays. Go USA!

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2013-01-01 02:31:23 AM  

Moriel: So how many people are you willing to kill in order to get rid of guns? 1 million? 10 million? All 90 million gun owning Americans?


Less lines at Disneyland and think of empty the lanes would be on the Freeway.
 
2013-01-01 02:31:46 AM  
Damnit, I was looking forward to finally having that discussion about guns but now that someone else has died from gun violence, I guess we have to put it off again.
 
2013-01-01 02:31:50 AM  
So glad I opted out of that this year. Went to my friend's NYE party instead. I can't picture myself in a fight in Old Sac, though. I'm more of the "Run away! Run away! and if  you can't, then, and only then, do you fight" type. Damn. I wonder what the back story on this is?

Everyone in SacTown stay safe. We're so boring the rest of the year it always amazes  me when stuff like this happens anywhere but South Sac, the DPH or Alkalai Flats. Even then, it's not too terribly common here. I moved up here from SoCal to get away from stuff like this, ya know...

/heads back to the party for more spiked eggnog
//haz a sad this even happened :'-(
 
2013-01-01 02:32:19 AM  
Dick Clark is already dead dumbasses.
 
2013-01-01 02:32:41 AM  
Jesus Christ.  We can't go a f*cking month without some motherf*cker going on a murder spree in a public place.  How the fark did we keep it together long enough to survive World War II?  And the Cold War?
 
2013-01-01 02:32:48 AM  

Moriel: cybrwzrd: Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.

So how many people are you willing to kill in order to get rid of guns? 1 million? 10 million? All 90 million gun owning Americans?

You just declared yourself to be no better than a murderer.


At least we can come together on one thing:  capital punishment is murder and should be abolished.
 
2013-01-01 02:33:04 AM  
hope you are safe subby
 
2013-01-01 02:33:05 AM  
Are you sure this isn't just "normal" gunshots?
 
2013-01-01 02:33:07 AM  
As someone who is not there but is pretty much sick if this kinda crap, let me just say


farkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfa​rkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfarkfark

/be safe, subster
 
2013-01-01 02:33:17 AM  

cybrwzrd: That last comment was directed at you BadReligion


Maybe you should make a new profile to troll from than :p .
 
2013-01-01 02:33:26 AM  
Now is not the time to have a discussion about gun control. Again.
 
2013-01-01 02:33:43 AM  
Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.
 
2013-01-01 02:33:52 AM  
We were going to ride our bikes over there, but then someone stole nesler's bike from our backyard, so we decided to stay home. Glad we did, bummer about the whole clusterfark. :(Who are you, subby? All the Sac Farkers I know are elsewhere tonight. Stay safe!!
 
2013-01-01 02:34:02 AM  
<b><a href="http://www.fark.com/comments/7511939/81607565#c81607565" target="_blank">cybrwzrd</a>:</b> <i>Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.</i>

this wasn't a mass shooting - a fight with guns involved. and this in one of the most gun-restrictive states.
criminals don't follow laws. period, end of story.
 
2013-01-01 02:34:05 AM  

Zombie DJ: Moriel: So how many people are you willing to kill in order to get rid of guns? 1 million? 10 million? All 90 million gun owning Americans?

Less lines at Disneyland and think of empty the lanes would be on the Freeway.


So many fewer Trucks and SUVs as well, would make my commute much easier as I drive a sports car and they are always in my way, hogging the left lane going the speed limit.
 
2013-01-01 02:34:09 AM  
Not a mass shooting... the article says it was a fight and a male Hispanic suspect was seen running. Ban Hispanics?
 
2013-01-01 02:34:41 AM  

BadReligion: cybrwzrd: That last comment was directed at you BadReligion

Maybe you should make a new profile to troll from than :p .


Why? It is more fun this way :P
 
2013-01-01 02:35:03 AM  
Was this a Psycho Mass Murder or just a gang beef?
 
2013-01-01 02:35:24 AM  
Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene.

So illegal or gang member?
 
2013-01-01 02:36:02 AM  

JSam21: Not a mass shooting... the article says it was a fight and a male Hispanic suspect was seen running. Ban Hispanics?


A fight at a sports bar. Ban sports bars.
 
2013-01-01 02:36:11 AM  

JSam21: Not a mass shooting... the article says it was a fight and a male Hispanic suspect was seen running. Ban Hispanics?


No, running.  Running kills people, not guns.
 
2013-01-01 02:36:36 AM  

eraser8: At least we can come together on one thing:  capital punishment is murder and should be abolished.


In principle, I actually support capital punishment. I certainly see no reason that murderers and rapists should not be put to death. But as a practical matter, the death penalty is applied in racist ways and without a high enough standard of evidence, and I really have no hope that will ever change, and for this reason I can't support the death penalty.
 
2013-01-01 02:36:56 AM  
What the fark is wrong with this world? Take cover, subby.
 
2013-01-01 02:36:56 AM  

cybrwzrd: So many fewer Trucks and SUVs as well, would make my commute much easier as I drive a sports car and they are always in my way, hogging the left lane going the speed limit.


I'm in Atlanta, too...and, I find this very hard to believe.
 
2013-01-01 02:36:59 AM  
On the plus side, it's still 2012 in CA, so this won't count against 2013's tally.

Seriously, though... this shiat's getting ridiculous.
 
2013-01-01 02:37:35 AM  
So it was a bar fight with guns, like in the Old West?
 
2013-01-01 02:38:15 AM  
Holy shiat. The only reason my wife and I weren't there tonight is because we cancelled our party plans on account that she is pregnant.

/just found out two weeks ago
//our first
 
2013-01-01 02:38:16 AM  
I see that this thread is full of reasonable individuals who certainly have a reasonable excuse to post.
 
2013-01-01 02:38:29 AM  
Haven't read through the comments - stay safe, subs. Farking awful:(
 
2013-01-01 02:38:35 AM  

John Dewey: JSam21: Not a mass shooting... the article says it was a fight and a male Hispanic suspect was seen running. Ban Hispanics?

No, running.  Running kills people, not guns.


Ok... so no Hispanics, sports bars, and running. What else?

/can we have sports sallons?
 
2013-01-01 02:38:39 AM  

adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?


Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm
 
2013-01-01 02:39:16 AM  

Luminiferous Aether: I see that this thread is full of reasonable individuals who certainly have a reasonable excuse to post.


Half these people are drunk because New Year's. The other half are drunk because Fark. Cut 'em some slack.
 
2013-01-01 02:39:21 AM  

Moriel: In principle, I actually support capital punishment.


Yet, you claimed that another Farker's support of capital punishment made him, "no better than a murderer."  Also, it's insane to put rapists to death for that crime.  All that does is provide a powerful incentive for rapists to kill their victims.
 
2013-01-01 02:39:32 AM  

JSam21: John Dewey: JSam21: Not a mass shooting... the article says it was a fight and a male Hispanic suspect was seen running. Ban Hispanics?

No, running.  Running kills people, not guns.

Ok... so no Hispanics, sports bars, and running. What else?

/can we have sports sallons?


Damn... ment saloons
 
2013-01-01 02:40:16 AM  
Duh, it's Sacramento. The "Old Town" part especially. That area has been a mess for as long as I can remember. Why would you go to such a place for NYE? Getting drunk at home would be more entertaining and obviously safer.

/lived in Davis for a long time, and currently living in Woodland ("boring, but a safe and cheap boring, so meh")
//often drive to SF or elsewhere rather than over the causeway into Sac, and it's always worth the extra gas/time
 
2013-01-01 02:40:52 AM  

Aeonite: This is what happens when you take God out of fireworks displays.


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What does God need with fireworks displays?

/Stay safe, subby.
 
2013-01-01 02:41:06 AM  

mgshamster: Holy shiat. The only reason my wife and I weren't there tonight is because we cancelled our party plans on account that she is pregnant.

/just found out two weeks ago
//our first


Congrats man!!! You're in for one hell of a year!!! (sleep now while you still can - advice from a father of 2)
 
2013-01-01 02:41:07 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: Luminiferous Aether: I see that this thread is full of reasonable individuals who certainly have a reasonable excuse to post.

Half these people are drunk because New Year's. The other half are drunk because Fark. Cut 'em some slack.


Sober and at work
 
2013-01-01 02:41:08 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: So glad I opted out of that this year. Went to my friend's NYE party instead. I can't picture myself in a fight in Old Sac, though. I'm more of the "Run away! Run away! and if  you can't, then, and only then, do you fight" type. Damn. I wonder what the back story on this is?


Sounds to me like a good old-fashioned bar fight gone bad, probably a 9mm pistol.
 
2013-01-01 02:41:51 AM  
this will keep happening until we beg the government to take our guns. just wait. one more week, maybe two. one way or another...you gonna get disarmed...la la la la, la...lolololololololo
 
2013-01-01 02:41:58 AM  

mgshamster: Holy shiat. The only reason my wife and I weren't there tonight is because we cancelled our party plans on account that she is pregnant.

/just found out two weeks ago
//our first


It will be a monster.
/Just doing the needful.
 
2013-01-01 02:42:02 AM  

Moriel: I certainly see no reason that murderers and rapists should not be put to death.


If rapists get the death penalty, there's less reason to not kill the victims.  There's probably more incentive to kill them, actually: one fewer witness.
 
2013-01-01 02:42:44 AM  
Subby;
Stop jerking off with social media sites and RUN, biatch, RUN!
 
2013-01-01 02:43:17 AM  
My impression is it's some loser looking for some street cred.
 
2013-01-01 02:43:30 AM  
And this is the anti-gun argument in a nutshell. The law-abiding gun owners may vastly outnumber the nuts, but there are enough nuts out there to ruin it for everyone.
 
2013-01-01 02:43:56 AM  

Luminiferous Aether: mgshamster: Holy shiat. The only reason my wife and I weren't there tonight is because we cancelled our party plans on account that she is pregnant.

/just found out two weeks ago
//our first

It will be a monster.
/Just doing the needful.




It's my kid; I half expect as much.
 
2013-01-01 02:44:34 AM  

ciberido: Aeonite: This is what happens when you take God out of fireworks displays.

[kunochan.com image 450x338]

What does God need with fireworks displays?

/Stay safe, subby.


Genesis 19:24
 
2013-01-01 02:46:11 AM  

eraser8: cybrwzrd: So many fewer Trucks and SUVs as well, would make my commute much easier as I drive a sports car and they are always in my way, hogging the left lane going the speed limit.

I'm in Atlanta, too...and, I find this very hard to believe.


Western suburbs along 20, I commute almost to Alabama every day, and the slow, annoying vehicles I deal with every day are usually trucks or semis going the speed limit or lower.
 
2013-01-01 02:46:12 AM  

pdkl95: Duh, it's Sacramento. The "Old Town" part especially. That area has been a mess for as long as I can remember. Why would you go to such a place for NYE? Getting drunk at home would be more entertaining and obviously safer.

/lived in Davis for a long time, and currently living in Woodland ("boring, but a safe and cheap boring, so meh")
//often drive to SF or elsewhere rather than over the causeway into Sac, and it's always worth the extra gas/time


I actually quite love this town, bullshiat like this notwithstanding. I'd rather live here than either Woodland or Davis. And I live downtown. Been listening to choppers for two hours now.
 
2013-01-01 02:46:22 AM  
Illegal mescan I bet
 
2013-01-01 02:46:24 AM  
 
2013-01-01 02:46:50 AM  
'male hispanic'

Fire UP. UP. IN THE AIR.Disparar el arma AL AIRE.

That's all su madre could ask, idiota.
 
2013-01-01 02:46:54 AM  
The only solution here is to ban videogams and arm bartenders.
 
2013-01-01 02:47:05 AM  

Luminiferous Aether: I see that this thread is full of reasonable individuals who certainly have a reasonable excuse to post.



10/10

9 / 11
 
2013-01-01 02:47:23 AM  

DogLee: Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene.

So illegal or gang member?


Don't be stupid.

There's no reason he can't be both.
 
2013-01-01 02:48:41 AM  

some_beer_drinker: this will keep happening until we beg the government to take our guns. just wait. one more week, maybe two. one way or another...you gonna get disarmed...la la la la, la...lolololololololo


Well, congress needs something to occupy it between episodes of Fiscal CliffTM.
 
2013-01-01 02:49:21 AM  

SubBass49: mgshamster: Holy shiat. The only reason my wife and I weren't there tonight is because we cancelled our party plans on account that she is pregnant.

/just found out two weeks ago
//our first

Congrats man!!! You're in for one hell of a year!!! (sleep now while you still can - advice from a father of 2)


Thanks, man.

/and stay safe, subs
 
2013-01-01 02:49:25 AM  
I was just at a sporting goods store today. In California. There were guns for sale. In California.
 
2013-01-01 02:49:58 AM  

eraser8: Moriel: In principle, I actually support capital punishment.

Yet, you claimed that another Farker's support of capital punishment made him, "no better than a murderer."


I said he was no better than a murderer for declaring that he'd like to pass a law knowing and intending that it's effect would be killing large numbers of people.


Also, it's insane to put rapists to death for that crime.  All that does is provide a powerful incentive for rapists to kill their victims.

Don't bother. I used to work at a rape and domestic violence shelter here in Houston, so I've seen the consequences of rape first hand. A lot of people say that harsher penalties would encourage rapists to kill their victims and I say that's bullshiat. A lot of rapists already try that anyway. And right now we have a system that bascially lets rapists get away with their crimes entirely! You want to know how seriously rape is treated? Google for "unopened rape kit" Go, I dare you. I'll make it easy for you, even:

unopened rape kit

This country doesn't treat rape seriously and probably won't until we have our own moment like India is having right now.

Like I said, ultimately I oppose the death penalty, but we could at least mandate life in prison for rapists instead of the 2 year minimum we have here in Texas right now.
 
2013-01-01 02:50:20 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: DogLee: Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene.

So illegal or gang member?

Don't be stupid.

There's no reason he can't be both.


If he's headed toward the river he's a dumbass. Easy to get caught there.

Not that he wasn't a farking piece of shiat to begin with. farkload of people with kids in Old Sac tonight, and where that bar is is across from the crossing and tunnel to most of the parking down there. He pretty much couldn't have picked a more crowded place to do that. :-(
 
2013-01-01 02:50:34 AM  
Why oh why... I am getting so sick of this. And the bad thing is they could ban all the guns and this would STILL happen.
 
2013-01-01 02:50:39 AM  

Gosling: And this is the anti-gun argument in a nutshell. The law-abiding gun owners may vastly outnumber the nuts, but there are enough nuts out there to ruin it for everyone.


And those nuts will still get guns, no matter what laws are put into place. The only people hampered by banning guns are law abiding citizens. There are 300 million+ guns in the US right now, there will be no way to get them all off the streets. There are already background checks required to buy a gun. Trying to outright ban guns will not work, especially in this country which owes its existence to citizens owning guns.
 
2013-01-01 02:50:41 AM  

Sid_6.7: This is why we can't have nice things.
.


Hispanics or guns?

Inb4
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2013-01-01 02:50:49 AM  
is dick clark ok?
 
2013-01-01 02:51:18 AM  
Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene

Figures.
 
2013-01-01 02:51:55 AM  
I think the solution should be armed guards placed in all bars.
 
2013-01-01 02:52:31 AM  

Anthracite: Why oh why... I am getting so sick of this. And the bad thing is they could ban all the guns and this would STILL happen.


Arabs on 9/11, Latinos on 12/31. Clearly we need to ban all non muricans.
 
2013-01-01 02:52:42 AM  
Sounds like another angry young white gun nut again.
 
2013-01-01 02:53:11 AM  

some_beer_drinker: is dick clark ok?


I'm afraid...I have some bad news. You may want to sit down.
 
2013-01-01 02:53:14 AM  

cybrwzrd: Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.


I wish I could hate fark this troll post.

/And a splendid New Years to you, my good man.
 
2013-01-01 02:53:47 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?

Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm



Yeah, I knew that but I just felt like poking the bear. Only got one taker but there was math involved and I've been drinking so I ignored it.

/yay vodak!
 
2013-01-01 02:53:59 AM  
Immigrants. Cramming their low riders full of free healthcare and... snow.
 
2013-01-01 02:54:12 AM  

belhade: Real Women Drink Akvavit: So glad I opted out of that this year. Went to my friend's NYE party instead. I can't picture myself in a fight in Old Sac, though. I'm more of the "Run away! Run away! and if  you can't, then, and only then, do you fight" type. Damn. I wonder what the back story on this is?

Sounds to me like a good old-fashioned bar fight gone bad, probably a 9mm pistol.


I've been caught in a couple of those, just without the gunfire. Like I said, "Run away! Run away!"

I've never had a problem in Old Sac, though. It's a straight shot from the Salvation Army and Friendship Park on the light rail to get within very easy walking distance, plus it's a tourist trap, so you get a lot of homeless in the area for panhandling purposes. They're not usually a problem, though. It always surprises me when I hear about things like this out there, even though I lived in  that area for years before moving to the 'burbs with my family. It's such a cool area, so it really does give me a sad to hear about things like this.

Heh. 7 minutes til the New Year here. Gotta put  some lip balm on and get ready to pucker up.

Stay safe, subs! Check in with us later, please!
 
2013-01-01 02:54:31 AM  

TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.


It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.
 
2013-01-01 02:55:02 AM  

BadReligion: There are already background checks required to buy a gun.


Those background checks are laughably easy to clear, it appears.
 
2013-01-01 02:56:42 AM  

Tank_Fuzzbutt: Per police radio traffic, the suspect is a male hispanic headed toward the river from the shooting scene

Figures.


Color me surprised.  Seeing that this was in Sac, I just assumed it would be blah people.
 
2013-01-01 02:56:54 AM  

Gosling: BadReligion: There are already background checks required to buy a gun.

Those background checks are laughably easy to clear, it appears.


For someone with no criminal background they sure are.
 
2013-01-01 02:57:07 AM  

lady_nocturne: If he's headed toward the river he's a dumbass. Easy to get caught there.


When I was in Rio on either Ipanema or Copacabana beach I forget which, the 'police' were chasing someone that had a gun and he did the same thing, ran right past us to the water.
What's up with that? Naturally he got caught.
 
2013-01-01 02:58:58 AM  

C18H27NO3: lady_nocturne: If he's headed toward the river he's a dumbass. Easy to get caught there.

When I was in Rio on either Ipanema or Copacabana beach I forget which, the 'police' were chasing someone that had a gun and he did the same thing, ran right past us to the water.
What's up with that? Naturally he got caught.

Maybe he thought the police were scared of the water, like a cat or something.
 
2013-01-01 02:59:15 AM  

BadReligion: For someone with no criminal background they sure are.


Obvious solution: pre-crime background checks. Where are we on the whole "giving people psychic powers" thing?
 
2013-01-01 02:59:54 AM  
Horrible way to spend New Years. Be safe.

Ban guns.. Ban guns.. RAH Polly want a cracker? So when we ban all of the guns and the criminals that already ignore every other law banning theft, drugs, etc continue to have them then what? Or say we confiscate them all and then crazy spouses or unhinged people on psych meds start driving cars through pedestrian zones and into crowded restaurants, then what? When do we ban banning stuff and realize this is due to our allowing crazy people to roam the streets while medicated rather than locking them up in Happy Farms Sanitarium?

FWIW I am not "pro gun" or a political righty. I just don't see the logic in banning one thing after another to address the real issue that America is doing a piss poor job with mantal illness. Sane gun owners, like sane drivers of cars and sane pilots are not causing mass murders. Crazy people are and its about time we start dealing with crazy instead of dealing with the implements they pick up.

/$.02
//off my soapbox now
///A very happy, safe and bountiful 2013 to you all
 
2013-01-01 03:00:09 AM  
Happy farking new year?
 
2013-01-01 03:00:12 AM  
Jesus, who was it on scene? Is he/she safe?
Hit the deck, subby, and report back when the all clear sounds.
 
2013-01-01 03:00:41 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: BadReligion: For someone with no criminal background they sure are.

Obvious solution: pre-crime background checks. Where are we on the whole "giving people psychic powers" thing?


We are building the human tanks, but the ball dispenser is proving tricky.
 
2013-01-01 03:01:37 AM  

Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.


There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.
 
2013-01-01 03:01:49 AM  
Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.
 
2013-01-01 03:01:56 AM  
Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.
 
2013-01-01 03:02:45 AM  

Fark It: Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.

There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.


And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?
 
2013-01-01 03:03:58 AM  
ZOMG IM IN CALIFORNIA AND JUST HEARD LIKE A MILLION SHOTS RING OUT!
 
2013-01-01 03:04:04 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.


Yes, something tells me the Hispanic guy who started a gunfight in a bar was the legal owner of that handgun.
 
2013-01-01 03:04:15 AM  

BadReligion: And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?


Tow truck drivers?
 
2013-01-01 03:04:23 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.


lulz
 
2013-01-01 03:04:56 AM  

Moriel: BadReligion: And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?

Tow truck drivers?


Zing!
 
2013-01-01 03:04:57 AM  

Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.


Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.
 
2013-01-01 03:06:32 AM  

BadReligion: Fark It: Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.

There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.

And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?


Their 92FS clones are supposed to be decent, but that's only because they're built on old Beretta tooling. I'd be wary of any manufacturer that throws in a free NRA membership when you buy one of their pistols as a marketing ploy...
 
2013-01-01 03:06:54 AM  
Sad to see crazy never takes a holiday.
 
2013-01-01 03:07:04 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.


Opa gangland style
 
2013-01-01 03:07:19 AM  

BadReligion: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.

Yes, something tells me the Hispanic guy who started a gunfight in a bar was the legal owner of that handgun.


Pretty sure Hispanics can still own guns and go to bars.

/well, not in az but this was ca
 
2013-01-01 03:08:44 AM  
We need more Good Guys armed against the Bad Guys so that these things don't happen ...

(Or some other bullshiat reasoning from the perpetually pants-pissingly scared, infantile right wing, second amendment fundamentalist nutjobs).
 
2013-01-01 03:08:45 AM  

Gyrfalcon: It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.


Just wait. Tomorrow it will be a high-capacity assault pistol with extended clips, like this one:

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2013-01-01 03:09:11 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BadReligion: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Another responsible gun owner heard from.

/well, he was yesterday.

Yes, something tells me the Hispanic guy who started a gunfight in a bar was the legal owner of that handgun.

Pretty sure Hispanics can still own guns and go to bars.

/well, not in az but this was ca


I am aware, but statistically gunfights like this are started by people, specifically gang bangers or drug dealers, that do not legally own their guns.
 
2013-01-01 03:09:21 AM  
The murderous pendejo is looking for his 15 minutes of infamy; the media would do well to rob him of that when he's eventually nabbed. Of course, that's not going to happen.

Not the bang 2013 should have started off on. :(
 
2013-01-01 03:09:48 AM  
If the dude is an illegal alien then there will be a whole different take on this later by Farks hard party liners by tomorrow.
 
2013-01-01 03:10:03 AM  
Live scanner feed here (which interestingly seems to have the most info out of the multiple Sacramento-area scanner feeds on Broadcastify.
 
2013-01-01 03:10:14 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.


That's not a particularly reassuring way to assess the situation.
 
2013-01-01 03:10:21 AM  

homelessdude: Cue Wayne LaPierre press conference (complete with patented lip drool) with calls to have armed guards at all fireworks displays. Go USA!

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Nah, according to LaPierre, we just need armed teachers at all fireworks displays.
 
2013-01-01 03:12:18 AM  

sadbad: Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.

That's not a particularly reassuring way to assess the situation.


Why did we think allowing firearms in public places that serve alcohol was a good idea again?
 
2013-01-01 03:13:01 AM  
G'dammit Sac-town! We almost made it without this shiat storm nonsense
 
2013-01-01 03:14:26 AM  

Summoner101: sadbad: Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.

That's not a particularly reassuring way to assess the situation.

Why did we think allowing firearms in public places that serve alcohol was a good idea again?


You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.
 
2013-01-01 03:14:37 AM  
A poetic ending for 2012
 
2013-01-01 03:15:22 AM  
So much random violence killing all the innocents in America and yet Justin Beiber is still alive. Why God Why? Where is the sense in all of this?
 
2013-01-01 03:15:39 AM  
Stay safe, Sacramentoads. Especially Lady_Nocturne and nesler.
 
2013-01-01 03:15:44 AM  
"Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.
 
2013-01-01 03:16:22 AM  

Summoner101: Why did we think serving alcohol in public places that allow firearms was a good idea again?


Either way it's retarded.
 
2013-01-01 03:17:04 AM  

mikaloyd: So much random violence killing all the innocents in America and yet Justin Beiber is still alive. Why God Why? Where is the sense in all of this?


We don't want to go to war with Canada.
 
2013-01-01 03:17:19 AM  

Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.


Actually, that sounds more like a Redenbacher.
 
2013-01-01 03:18:25 AM  

mikaloyd: So much random violence killing all the innocents in America and yet Justin Beiber is still alive. Why God Why? Where is the sense in all of this?


Bieber's Canadian.
 
2013-01-01 03:18:38 AM  

BadReligion: You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.


Then why the hell do we bother with rules? Why don't we make murder legal if people are just going to keep ignoring all the rules against it?

This is not the Old West, no matter how much you wish it was. We're trying to civilize shiat around here these days.
 
2013-01-01 03:18:39 AM  

Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.


I know my revolvers are all "ka-POW" while my rifles are all "Boom!" and my Sig Sauers go "Ka Chow" like the car in Cars. I don't own any Glocks, but "pop" sounds wrong, I think they go "kaboom!"
 
2013-01-01 03:19:02 AM  
Gun toting hispanic? This won't end well.
 
2013-01-01 03:19:06 AM  
Is this subby on site like Flynavy coming from the scene of Somali Pirates?
 
2013-01-01 03:19:31 AM  

Olympic Trolling Judge: mikaloyd: So much random violence killing all the innocents in America and yet Justin Beiber is still alive. Why God Why? Where is the sense in all of this?

Bieber's Canadian.


why wont he go home?
 
2013-01-01 03:19:36 AM  
"It sounded like a Glock."

I get the full auto ak sound. What is specific to a glock sound? Or is this the verbal version of an ak47 poster?

/Maybe they used the wrong clip?
 
2013-01-01 03:19:46 AM  

Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.


sounds exactly how its spelled. Any other questions?
 
2013-01-01 03:19:55 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?

Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm


So why do you have enough firepower to take out a small European country? This is a serious question. Why do you think you need that?
 
2013-01-01 03:19:56 AM  

Pincy: Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.


Put your money in a shredder, and listen to it get minced. That's about what it sounds like.
 
2013-01-01 03:20:36 AM  

Fark It: BadReligion: Fark It: Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.

There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.

And really, who wants to carry a Taurus?

Their 92FS clones are supposed to be decent, but that's only because they're built on old Beretta tooling. I'd be wary of any manufacturer that throws in a free NRA membership when you buy one of their pistols as a marketing ploy...


Their wheel guns and 1911 clone are pretty good. I carry an 82 at work right now
 
2013-01-01 03:20:56 AM  

echo5juliet: Horrible way to spend New Years. Be safe.

Ban guns.. Ban guns.. RAH Polly want a cracker? So when we ban all of the guns and the criminals that already ignore every other law banning theft, drugs, etc continue to have them then what? Or say we confiscate them all and then crazy spouses or unhinged people on psych meds start driving cars through pedestrian zones and into crowded restaurants, then what? When do we ban banning stuff and realize this is due to our allowing crazy people to roam the streets while unmedicated rather than locking them up in Happy Farms Sanitarium?

FWIW I am not "pro gun" or a political righty. I just don't see the logic in banning one thing after another to address the real issue that America is doing a piss poor job with mantal illness. Sane gun owners, like sane drivers of cars and sane pilots are not causing mass murders. Crazy people are and its about time we start dealing with crazy instead of dealing with the implements they pick up.


/$.02
//off my soapbox now
///A very happy, safe and bountiful 2013 to you all



FTFY. Seems to me it's the part where we rely on them to take their meds while unsupervised that keeps screwing us. They can say what they like, but I'm with you--institutionalization has it's perks-- like keeping society safe.
 
2013-01-01 03:21:04 AM  

Gosling: BadReligion: You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.

Then why the hell do we bother with rules? Why don't we make murder legal if people are just going to keep ignoring all the rules against it?

This is not the Old West, no matter how much you wish it was. We're trying to civilize shiat around here these days.


Actually he's a 21st century digital boy.
 
2013-01-01 03:21:33 AM  
there's no reason for respectable people to enter that city.
 
2013-01-01 03:21:43 AM  

Phins: Real Women Drink Akvavit: adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?

Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm

So why do you have enough firepower to take out a small European country? This is a serious question. Why do you think you need that?


Don't know how to live but he's got a lot of toys?
 
2013-01-01 03:22:22 AM  

Gosling: BadReligion: You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.

Then why the hell do we bother with rules? Why don't we make murder legal if people are just going to keep ignoring all the rules against it?

This is not the Old West, no matter how much you wish it was. We're trying to civilize shiat around here these days.


My point is some people don't follow rules, so extra rules that only hinder law abiding citizens and don't actually affect the criminal are stupid and redundant. That said, in most states it is illegal to carry in a bar if you are consuming alcohol(or even to enter the bar in others) but that did not stop this guy from shooting up the place. I doubt the extra charge for that on top of the murders and assaults will do anything to him.
 
2013-01-01 03:22:54 AM  

BadReligion: I know my revolvers are all "ka-POW" while my rifles are all "Boom!" and my Sig Sauers go "Ka Chow" like the car in Cars. I don't own any Glocks, but "pop" sounds wrong, I think they go "kaboom!"


Don Martin's gun goes "PLAM PLAM" and sometimes "FLOON".
 
2013-01-01 03:23:54 AM  

thisdaydreamer: Farking hell I've had enough of this. Be safe, subby,


Hell yeah, I'm tired of this sh@t and I'm gonna go cry now, hopefully I'll feel better later but I'm pretty drunk already, I hope it's not too bad,

/I don't know what too bad means : (
 
2013-01-01 03:24:17 AM  

Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.


Fark what it sounds like. Magazine size, rate of fire and reload time are what I'm worried about.

And honestly, if you're like my cousin and try to seriously make an argument that people who have not been in an active gunfight (he's home from a tour in Afghanistan, which as you know is TOTALLY the same situation as a town hall meeting in Tuscon or a Sikh temple in Wisconsin or an elementary school in Connecticut or a New Year's celebration in Sacramento) have no right to an opinion regarding magazine size, the arms that come out of your screen and strangle you to death will be mine.
 
2013-01-01 03:25:36 AM  

BadReligion: Summoner101: sadbad: Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.

That's not a particularly reassuring way to assess the situation.

Why did we think allowing firearms in public places that serve alcohol was a good idea again?

You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.


No, but the bartender would at least have had cause not to serve someone carrying.
 
2013-01-01 03:25:37 AM  

Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.


It would sound like a semi-auto.
 
2013-01-01 03:25:44 AM  

BadReligion: My point is some people don't follow rules, so extra rules that only hinder law abiding citizens and don't actually affect the criminal are stupid and redundant.


That's the most chickenshiat goddamned thing I've ever heard.
 
2013-01-01 03:26:45 AM  

Gosling: Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.

Fark what it sounds like. Magazine size, rate of fire and reload time are what I'm worried about.

And honestly, if you're like my cousin and try to seriously make an argument that people who have not been in an active gunfight (he's home from a tour in Afghanistan, which as you know is TOTALLY the same situation as a town hall meeting in Tuscon or a Sikh temple in Wisconsin or an elementary school in Connecticut or a New Year's celebration in Sacramento) have no right to an opinion regarding magazine size, the arms that come out of your screen and strangle you to death will be mine.


Good thing you have the right to those arms.
 
2013-01-01 03:27:13 AM  

Gosling: Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.

Fark what it sounds like. Magazine size, rate of fire and reload time are what I'm worried about.

And honestly, if you're like my cousin and try to seriously make an argument that people who have not been in an active gunfight (he's home from a tour in Afghanistan, which as you know is TOTALLY the same situation as a town hall meeting in Tuscon or a Sikh temple in Wisconsin or an elementary school in Connecticut or a New Year's celebration in Sacramento) have no right to an opinion regarding magazine size, the arms that come out of your screen and strangle you to death will be mine.


If no one else can have an opinion about it, neither can you...

What a crappy argument. My cousin spent 4 years in Afghanistan and his opinion differs from your cousin.
 
2013-01-01 03:27:25 AM  
Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.
 
2013-01-01 03:27:27 AM  
Time for the sane to buy those extended clips now kids.
 
2013-01-01 03:27:33 AM  

Summoner101: BadReligion: Summoner101: sadbad: Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.

That's not a particularly reassuring way to assess the situation.

Why did we think allowing firearms in public places that serve alcohol was a good idea again?

You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.

No, but the bartender would at least have had cause not to serve someone carrying.


To expand on this, I couldn't give two shiats about someone with a CCW in a restaurant. It's legally serving that person a mood altering drug while armed that's the issue.
 
2013-01-01 03:27:36 AM  

Phins: So why do you have enough firepower to take out a small European country? This is a serious question. Why do you think you need that?


Am american with more than he needs? In this economy?

I too feel that he should donate guns to those less fortunate than himself until we all have plenty.
 
2013-01-01 03:28:03 AM  

Phins: Real Women Drink Akvavit: adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?

Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm

So why do you have enough firepower to take out a small European country? This is a serious question. Why do you think you need that?


I like target  shooting and think guns are nifty, that's why. Just like some  people collect comic books, I collect weapons. I have taken training in how to use them safely and retrain every couple years. Still not sure if I could actually shoot someone, even if my life was on the line, though. I'm hazardous only to pepsi cans. Do I  need them? No. But I also do not need all that nail polish, all those shoes and handbags or multiple translations of the Eddas. I just happen to have them because I like them. I think most people are that way to a certain extent, just not usually with weaponry.

I also have an array of medieval  weapons (mostly swords) proudly displayed on  the walls of my lair. Most are reproductions and are blunts, but they are still very cool.

/got my New Year's kiss! Huzzah!
//waiting for the pool tournament to be over so we can head out
 
2013-01-01 03:28:21 AM  

Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."


I guess it's true.

Once you pop, you can't stop.
 
2013-01-01 03:28:46 AM  
"Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

I think it was an uzi.
 
2013-01-01 03:29:58 AM  

Gosling: BadReligion: My point is some people don't follow rules, so extra rules that only hinder law abiding citizens and don't actually affect the criminal are stupid and redundant.

That's the most chickenshiat goddamned thing I've ever heard.


Why, just because you don't agree with it?
 
2013-01-01 03:30:33 AM  

Summoner101: Summoner101: BadReligion: Summoner101: sadbad: Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.

That's not a particularly reassuring way to assess the situation.

Why did we think allowing firearms in public places that serve alcohol was a good idea again?

You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.

No, but the bartender would at least have had cause not to serve someone carrying.

To expand on this, I couldn't give two shiats about someone with a CCW in a restaurant. It's legally serving that person a mood altering drug while armed that's the issue.


How do you know he is carrying if it is concealed?
 
2013-01-01 03:30:48 AM  

Gosling: Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.

Fark what it sounds like. Magazine size, rate of fire and reload time are what I'm worried about.

And honestly, if you're like my cousin and try to seriously make an argument that people who have not been in an active gunfight (he's home from a tour in Afghanistan, which as you know is TOTALLY the same situation as a town hall meeting in Tuscon or a Sikh temple in Wisconsin or an elementary school in Connecticut or a New Year's celebration in Sacramento) have no right to an opinion regarding magazine size, the arms that come out of your screen and strangle you to death will be mine.


Actually, my comment was sarcastic and I was poking fun at people like your cousin.
 
2013-01-01 03:31:18 AM  
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"Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."
 
2013-01-01 03:31:24 AM  

Phins: Real Women Drink Akvavit: adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?

Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm

So why do you have enough firepower to take out a small European country? This is a serious question. Why do you think you need that?



Thousands of people are killed in car wrecks every year. Jay Leno probably owns enough cars to equip every family in Lichtenstein with an automobile. Why don't you ask him why he needs that many cars?
 
2013-01-01 03:31:49 AM  

Summoner101: Summoner101: BadReligion: Summoner101: sadbad: Gyrfalcon: Bit'O'Gristle: Sighs..what a way to start the new year..not even one farking day, and some asshole has to go bugshiat. farking Christ.

Well, don't freak out yet. It wasn't a "mass shooting" despite the media overreaction insta-frenzy. Five people were shot and two are dead, which is way too many of course, but it was apparently in a restaurant according to the updated report; so it could just as easily be a drunken family argument or idiots arguing over a beer tab. It doesn't sound like anyone going bugf*ck with an "assault rifle" so far.

That's not a particularly reassuring way to assess the situation.

Why did we think allowing firearms in public places that serve alcohol was a good idea again?

You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.

No, but the bartender would at least have had cause not to serve someone carrying.

To expand on this, I couldn't give two shiats about someone with a CCW in a restaurant. It's legally serving that person a mood altering drug while armed that's the issue.


I agree, and legally they can't. That won't stop the guy illegally carrying though, and seeing as how this is Cali, he almost definately was illegally carrying.
 
2013-01-01 03:32:09 AM  

cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.


Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.
 
2013-01-01 03:32:53 AM  

Pincy: Actually, my comment was sarcastic and I was poking fun at people like your cousin.


Ah. Apologies; carry on, then.
 
2013-01-01 03:34:34 AM  

Molavian: Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

I guess it's true.

Once you pop, you can't stop.


Which olympic gymnast made her taco pop? She may have predicted this
 
2013-01-01 03:35:01 AM  

cybrwzrd: Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.


.5/10 you were doing great, then you got greedy
 
2013-01-01 03:35:20 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: Phins: Real Women Drink Akvavit: adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?

Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm

So why do you have enough firepower to take out a small European country? This is a serious question. Why do you think you need that?

I like target  shooting and think guns are nifty, that's why. Just like some  people collect comic books, I collect weapons. I have taken training in how to use them safely and retrain every couple years. Still not sure if I could actually shoot someone, even if my life was on the line, though. I'm hazardous only to pepsi cans. Do I  need them? No. But I also do not need all that nail polish, all those shoes and handbags or multiple translations of the Eddas. I just happen to have them because I like them. I think most people are that way to a certain extent, just not usually with weaponry.

I also have an array of medieval  weapons (mostly swords) proudly displayed on  the walls of my lair. Most are reproductions and are blunts, but they are still very cool.

/got my New Year's kiss! Huzzah!
//waiting for the pool tournament to be over so we can head out


I think I'm in love , don't worry I'll worship from afar, but yea my uncle and dad taught me to shoot when I was 7, and well my ex she had ad a masters in archeology she had a real claymore, and longsword that I learned a bit on. Those were really fun : )
 
2013-01-01 03:35:38 AM  
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2013-01-01 03:35:58 AM  

adeist69: Phins: Real Women Drink Akvavit: adeist69: So, how are those strict gun laws and high capacity magazine bans working out for you California?

Our gun laws aren't as strict as people seem to think  they are. I have enough firepower to take out a small European country. Also, high capacity magazines are very much a part of gun ownership here. When those things were banned, along with "assault weapons", if you already had one,  you got to keep it. You were grandfathered in. There was lag between when the law was passed and when it took effect, so a lot of people went out and stocked up or made purchases before the  law into effect. We' probably just as heavily armed, if not more so because of the bans, than your average Texan here in Cali. Plus, we have tofu and wheat grass. YAY!

/loves California
//weirdness has its own special charm

So why do you have enough firepower to take out a small European country? This is a serious question. Why do you think you need that?


Thousands of people are killed in car wrecks every year. Jay Leno probably owns enough cars to equip every family in Lichtenstein with an automobile. Why don't you ask him why he needs that many cars?


That's an interesting thing to bring up, considering that Sacramento has a particularly high death rate per auto accident. Worst in California.

/ heard it on the radio, so it must be true, right?
 
2013-01-01 03:38:16 AM  

Phins: Why do you think you need that?


I want it. I like it. It's as simple as that.

It's not like you need anything other than shelter, food, and water. Why do you think you need internet access? A computer? Who needs that kind of bandwidth? Why do you need so many clothes? A couple shirts and a couple pairs of pants is all anyone really needs. Maybe a pair of shoes. Honestly, you don't really need running water, or hot water for that matter. You could make it just fine with a well and some buckets, right?
 
2013-01-01 03:38:26 AM  
On behalf of all farkers I don't give a shiat about your fate.

I call bullshiat.
 
2013-01-01 03:39:02 AM  

Fark It: Tickle Mittens: TheGhostofFarkPast: Wow we can't even go one farking day with out someone unloading a gun into a crowd. Good job America.

It's cause subtard is a milk siping pantywaist. If he was a real American he would have gone armed with his Baretta 93R with extended magazine an incendiary ammunition, and run towards the gunfire eger to stop a bad man with a gun.

There aren't any transferable 93Rs (aside from maybe some SOT dealer samples) in the U.S., only a couple of parts kits assembled on Taurus receivers, and they cost tens of thousands of dollars. Not something you'd carry concealed.


Terrible, just terrible. It's getting so you can't even take a movie like Face/Off seriously.
 
2013-01-01 03:39:22 AM  

BadReligion: Gosling: BadReligion: My point is some people don't follow rules, so extra rules that only hinder law abiding citizens and don't actually affect the criminal are stupid and redundant.

That's the most chickenshiat goddamned thing I've ever heard.

Why, just because you don't agree with it?


No. Because disparaging rules- you know, the agreements we make as a society so that we can be a society- just out of a fear that some people don't feel like following those rules is a really good way to tear said society to shreds. Dammit, you're supposed to be better than those people. You're not supposed to just cast aside basic farking human decency in the name of monsters at your front door. Just because some people don't follow rules doesn't mean you don't have to either.
 
2013-01-01 03:39:57 AM  

Molavian: Phins: Why do you think you need that?

I want it. I like it. It's as simple as that.

It's not like you need anything other than shelter, food, and water. Why do you think you need internet access? A computer? Who needs that kind of bandwidth? Why do you need so many clothes? A couple shirts and a couple pairs of pants is all anyone really needs. Maybe a pair of shoes. Honestly, you don't really need running water, or hot water for that matter. You could make it just fine with a well and some buckets, right?


This has got to be one of the dumbest arguments I have ever read on Fark.
 
2013-01-01 03:40:21 AM  

mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.


Sacramento is a good solid B-level city, but it loses some of its shine because of the neighbors; San Francisco, San Jose, Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, etc. Stockton on the other hand...
 
2013-01-01 03:40:52 AM  
This is why we can't have ni *looks off stage* "oh, that's been said a dozen times already? Carry on then"
 
2013-01-01 03:41:56 AM  

mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.


I was gonna go for Bakersfield or Fresno as the armpit, then I realized they're more like the diseased crotch of California. So Stockton (or Modesto) it is!
 
2013-01-01 03:43:19 AM  

Gosling: BadReligion: Gosling: BadReligion: My point is some people don't follow rules, so extra rules that only hinder law abiding citizens and don't actually affect the criminal are stupid and redundant.

That's the most chickenshiat goddamned thing I've ever heard.

Why, just because you don't agree with it?

No. Because disparaging rules- you know, the agreements we make as a society so that we can be a society- just out of a fear that some people don't feel like following those rules is a really good way to tear said society to shreds. Dammit, you're supposed to be better than those people. You're not supposed to just cast aside basic farking human decency in the name of monsters at your front door. Just because some people don't follow rules doesn't mean you don't have to either.


I understand what you are saying, but you are proposing enacting new rules because people broke the rules that are already in place, to the detriment of no one but law abiding citizens. More rules doesn't make a society more decent, it makes it more draconian. We can only try so hard to protect ourselves from each other before we cross that line.
 
2013-01-01 03:43:26 AM  

Pincy: Molavian: Phins: Why do you think you need that?

I want it. I like it. It's as simple as that.

It's not like you need anything other than shelter, food, and water. Why do you think you need internet access? A computer? Who needs that kind of bandwidth? Why do you need so many clothes? A couple shirts and a couple pairs of pants is all anyone really needs. Maybe a pair of shoes. Honestly, you don't really need running water, or hot water for that matter. You could make it just fine with a well and some buckets, right?

This has got to be one of the dumbest arguments I have ever read on Fark.


That's ok, I just received one of the dumbest replies I have ever read on Fark. Weird, huh?
 
2013-01-01 03:44:25 AM  

mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.


Wow...it's late and I'm tired and full of derp apparently.

Yes, Stockton was where I went not Sacramento.

Sorry, completely my bad. Please retract my previous statement.

/off to bed!
//stay safe subs and Happy New Year folks!
 
2013-01-01 03:44:50 AM  

Summoner101: Why did we think allowing firearms in public places that serve alcohol was a good idea again?


You didn't.  It's illegal as hell in California.  It appears to be working as good as the rest of their gun control.

Perennial fail.
 
2013-01-01 03:45:52 AM  

Molavian: Phins: Why do you think you need that?

I want it. I like it. It's as simple as that.

It's not like you need anything other than shelter, food, and water. Why do you think you need internet access? A computer? Who needs that kind of bandwidth? Why do you need so many clothes? A couple shirts and a couple pairs of pants is all anyone really needs. Maybe a pair of shoes. Honestly, you don't really need running water, or hot water for that matter. You could make it just fine with a well and some buckets, right?


You are under assault, yes

Poisonous paragraphs smash your phonograph in half
It be the Inspectah Deck on the warpath
First class leaving mics with a cast
Causing ruckus like the aftermath when guns blast
Run fast, here comes the verbal assaulter
Rhymes running wild like a child in a walker
I scored from the inner slums abroad
And my thoughts are razor sharp I sliced the mic from the cord
First they criticize, but now they have become
Mentally paralyzed with hits that I devise
Now I testify, the rest is I, Rebel INS
Your highness, blessed to electrify
With voltage of a eel, truth that I reveal
Will crush the amateurs who scream they keep it real
Caesar black down hoodied up in fatigues
Part time minor leagues receive third degrees
Attack like a wolf pack, once I pull back
The God-U, and bust through like a fullback

Yo, you fourteen carat gold slum computer wizard
Tapping inside my rap vein causes blizzards
Do I like the kills for ice trife like botta digits
Gorillas injected with strength of eighty midgets
The Earth spins, Wu wins, rap exotic blends
Let my peeps in, nubians gasping, swallowing aspirins
What a dosage, you overdosed in rap
High explosives my posters hypnotize with hypnosis
I sell goods, my whole Clan is on the run like Natural Born Killers
Record-breaking the album Thriller
Got access to tear gas, bombs and rocket launchers
Float like dope killer beesis what I sponsor
Your entrepeneur, pens and ear like Shakespeare
When I fark I grab hair, collect drawers as souveneirs
fark yeah, my crew down German beers
My career's based on guns, throwing cats in wheelchairs
Etcetera, damage any lame ass competitor
Who try to front, get broken in fast like leathers
Whatever hot hardheads get shattered like mirrors
Beretta shots splatter your goose, scatter your feathers
Say never poetry chumps crumbs deal with graphic
Flew my family overseas a mansion
If rap was crack, fully packed I be tour cats
Taxing kingpin of the rap drug trafficking
Village nubians get slapped in Manhattan
For rapping, Big Ghost steps off laughing
Ha!
Sit back relax, fake nubians don't get turns
Watch me massage your brain with slang that's king
Projects filled with young men cause threats
Who has that? Thousand dollar chains and Tecs
Focus, the brokest nubians of life shiat
These mics is like cocaine son, check the suicidal hype shiat
Exchange mad blunts taste the sweepstakes
Keeping up on fakes outta state for cakes
No doubt, plus nobody amount, we making dough off
Putting fifty on the Land and Allah, it's like that
Pull ya shoes up black, matter of fact just adapt
Tie up, your black Nike's and tight hats
Corners stay surrounded with foreigners
What up, dread? Feds caught your bredren for his bread
But regardless, peace to jail nubians with charges
Unify laying in the yard with La
My Clan done ran from Japan to Atlanta, with stamina
Clingers and gamblers, and gram handlers
Tical light the Owl cigar, let's get steamed
Infra-red guard your beam, so seek nuff respect
Rude bwoy you bet, keep it moving par shallah
Pro black like tar
Designing the fly shiat and stay shining
The RZA pour more beats than Cristal's fine wine
Concrete raps go to bat
With 50 other nubians on the other side of the map
Knew it's all good and all done what, we want son
Mike Tyson of this rap shiat, pulling out Macs for fun

The nubian don't get mad, I got mad styles of my own
And it's shown when my hands grip the chrome microphone
Verbally I catch bodies with cordless shotties
Intriguing emcees, I keep em trained like potties
I bomb facts, my sword is an axe
To split backs invisible, like dope fiend tracks
Sky's the limit, nubians are timid, and nobody knows
How we move like wolfs in sheep clothes
Producing data, microchips of software
Underground and off air, the Land of the Lost
Notorious henchman from the North
Striking nubians where the Mason-Dixon line cross

-the WU
/happy new year!
 
2013-01-01 03:45:54 AM  

Notabunny: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

Sacramento is a good solid B-level city, but it loses some of its shine because of the neighbors; San Francisco, San Jose, Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, etc. Stockton on the other hand...




Yup. Born and raised in Sacramento. Travelled the world for a few years (thanks, army!), but I'm still here. It may lose some shine to its neighbors, but I love that it's so close to all of them so I can drive to any of them.

/headed up to Tahoe tomorrow.
//Misses an I rented a cabin for a few days.
 
2013-01-01 03:45:55 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

I was gonna go for Bakersfield or Fresno as the armpit, then I realized they're more like the diseased crotch of California. So Stockton (or Modesto) it is!


Hey! I hope your midnight kiss has a diseased crotch!
 
2013-01-01 03:46:14 AM  

BadReligion: I understand what you are saying, but you are proposing enacting new rules because people broke the rules that are already in place, to the detriment of no one but law abiding citizens. More rules doesn't make a society more decent, it makes it more draconian. We can only try so hard to protect ourselves from each other before we cross that line.


You forget that a lot of these people qualified as 'law-abiding citizens' right up until the moment they opened fire. Funny how the pro-gun side never seems to bring that up. To hear the pro-gun side tell it, each and every shooter has been a criminal right out of the womb.
 
2013-01-01 03:47:30 AM  
Wait, nobody interpreted "Subby on site" as subby being the shooter?

/damn, maybe I really am going to hell.
 
2013-01-01 03:47:40 AM  
> I want it. I like it. It's as simple as that.

The below question back to you is as old ad dirt, but I'm always interested in hearing people's answers...

Ok, so you like collecting handguns and assault rifles because they're nifty. I get that. But I'm curious where you draw the line? Bazookas? Grenades? Land mines in your back yard (it's YOUR back yard, after all). Small tactical nukes? Anthrax?

Where does a weapon cross over in your mind from being "fun to collect" to "too harmful to the general population's welfare to be in private hands"?
 
2013-01-01 03:49:02 AM  

mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.


lol
I have a friend from stockton.
he'll deny up and down that it is the biggest piece of shiat west of the mississipi river.
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj45jggj/8-stockton/
 
2013-01-01 03:50:15 AM  

Gosling: BadReligion: I understand what you are saying, but you are proposing enacting new rules because people broke the rules that are already in place, to the detriment of no one but law abiding citizens. More rules doesn't make a society more decent, it makes it more draconian. We can only try so hard to protect ourselves from each other before we cross that line.

You forget that a lot of these people qualified as 'law-abiding citizens' right up until the moment they opened fire. Funny how the pro-gun side never seems to bring that up. To hear the pro-gun side tell it, each and every shooter has been a criminal right out of the womb.


And you seem to forget that well over 99.9% of legal gun owners never commit any kind of violent crimes with their guns. Most gun crimes in this country happen with illegally obtained guns.
 
2013-01-01 03:50:56 AM  

relcec: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

lol
I have a friend from stockton.
he'll deny up and down that it is the biggest piece of shiat west of the mississipi river.
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mlj45jggj/8-stockton/


Your friend needs an intervention and therapy
/used to live in Stockton
 
2013-01-01 03:51:49 AM  

relcec: I have a friend from stockton.
he'll deny up and down that it is the biggest piece of shiat west of the mississipi river.


Well, your friend is right. You know, ever since Galactus took that giant dump in Wichita.
 
2013-01-01 03:51:54 AM  
tinfoil-hat maggie:I think I'm in love , don't worry I'll worship from afar, but yea my uncle and dad taught me to shoot when I was 7, and well my ex she had ad a masters in archeology she had a real claymore, and longsword that I learned a bit on. Those were really fun : )

I think my proudest acquisition is an actual, genuine (as far as we know and were told) Zweihander. It's a sharp, so I can't play with it, and it's so very old so I'd not play with it anyway. I believe it is genuine, as it has some leather straps wrapped around the hilt and what appears to be  blood stains on them. Wow. Just wow. I didn't even know leather could last that long. What, five centuries or something? This is why my sis won't come into my lair if I'm not in here. She's creeped out by a lot of the stuff in here.  In all fairness, I'm creeped out by all her  Beatles memorabilia, stuffed animal frogs and bunnies (???) and Bob Marley stuff, so I guess we're even.

/she's still one of my BFFs, though
 
2013-01-01 03:52:08 AM  

BadReligion: Most gun crimes in this country happen with illegally obtained guns.


Illegally obtained...from whom?
 
2013-01-01 03:52:38 AM  
They need more good guys with guns.
 
2013-01-01 03:52:51 AM  

mikaloyd: Real Women Drink Akvavit: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

I was gonna go for Bakersfield or Fresno as the armpit, then I realized they're more like the diseased crotch of California. So Stockton (or Modesto) it is!

Hey! I hope your midnight kiss has a diseased crotch!


Do you really wanna make me cry
 
2013-01-01 03:53:15 AM  

Just Another OC Homeless Guy: [i.imgur.com image 391x585]


I dont think those demographics actually overlap that much.
 
2013-01-01 03:53:45 AM  
If this had happened in October it wouldn't have even made Fark. You people are pathetic.
 
2013-01-01 03:53:49 AM  

Notabunny: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

Sacramento is a good solid B-level city, but it loses some of its shine because of the neighbors; San Francisco, San Jose, Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, etc. Stockton on the other hand...


I'll give it a c
being between san fransisco and tahoe is the most charming thing about it. when the most redeeming part of your city is the ability to get the f*ck out of it to somewhere nice you don't get a b.
 
2013-01-01 03:53:58 AM  

BadReligion: And you seem to forget that well over 99.9% of legal gun owners never commit any kind of violent crimes with their guns. Most gun crimes in this country happen with illegally obtained guns.


See Sid 6.7 up at the top of the thread. As far as I am more and more concerned by the day, the 0.1% that do have officially ruined it for everybody. The 0.1% is why you can't have liquids on airplanes anymore.
 
2013-01-01 03:54:50 AM  

millifoo: > I want it. I like it. It's as simple as that.

The below question back to you is as old ad dirt, but I'm always interested in hearing people's answers...

Ok, so you like collecting handguns and assault rifles because they're nifty. I get that. But I'm curious where you draw the line? Bazookas? Grenades? Land mines in your back yard (it's YOUR back yard, after all). Small tactical nukes? Anthrax?

Where does a weapon cross over in your mind from being "fun to collect" to "too harmful to the general population's welfare to be in private hands"?


The line in my mind is when it crosses from requiring intentional interaction to harm people, to the thing is harmful just sitting there. Nukes, chemical weapons, biologicals, some of the high explosives. Maybe if it can do damage on its own, with no interaction required. Kind of like a pit bull.

I think I should be able to buy grenades, grenade launchers, fully automatic weapons, etc., with the controls we already have in place. And honestly, if not for a bit of sneaky politics, I'd be able to. I still can, it's just really damn expensive. I already have things that most people think are illegal, but they're not when you pay the right tax.
 
2013-01-01 03:55:08 AM  

millifoo: > I want it. I like it. It's as simple as that.

The below question back to you is as old ad dirt, but I'm always interested in hearing people's answers...

Ok, so you like collecting handguns and assault rifles because they're nifty. I get that. But I'm curious where you draw the line? Bazookas? Grenades? Land mines in your back yard (it's YOUR back yard, after all). Small tactical nukes? Anthrax?

Where does a weapon cross over in your mind from being "fun to collect" to "too harmful to the general population's welfare to be in private hands"?


No one has said that any of those weapons you've listed should be available to the general public
 
2013-01-01 03:56:18 AM  
Came here for the knee jerk "guns must be banned" rants and emotional reactionary commentary, leaving satisfied.
 
2013-01-01 03:56:22 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: illegally obtained...from whom?


we give up. tell us.
 
2013-01-01 03:56:40 AM  

Gosling: BadReligion: And you seem to forget that well over 99.9% of legal gun owners never commit any kind of violent crimes with their guns. Most gun crimes in this country happen with illegally obtained guns.

See Sid 6.7 up at the top of the thread. As far as I am more and more concerned by the day, the 0.1% that do have officially ruined it for everybody. The 0.1% is why you can't have liquids on airplanes anymore.


And in my mind that is wrong. We continue to give up freedoms for a false illusion of safety that we will never achieve.

Anyway, it is late and we will never change each others minds, good night and happy new year!
 
2013-01-01 03:56:53 AM  

log_jammin: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: illegally obtained...from whom?

we give up. tell us.


Paco. That crazy mother sells anything.
 
2013-01-01 03:57:30 AM  

vudukungfu: Sucks being in your shoes, Subby.


And just what the hell are you doing in Subby's shoes anyway?
 
2013-01-01 03:57:46 AM  

Summoner101: You think this guy would have turned around if there was a "no guns allowed" sign? He was willing to kill people, he doesn't care about rules.

No, but the bartender would at least have had cause not to serve someone carrying.

To expand on this, I couldn't give two shiats about someone with a CCW in a restaurant. It's legally serving that person a mood altering drug while armed that's the issue.


If he's carrying concealed, how the hell does the bartender know he's carrying?
 
2013-01-01 03:58:25 AM  
I'm sorry you had to be in Sacramento for New Year's subby. Stay safe.
 
2013-01-01 03:59:40 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BadReligion: Most gun crimes in this country happen with illegally obtained guns.

Illegally obtained...from whom?


The military?  http://www.examiner.com/article/the-insider-threat-from-gang-members- t he-u-s-military
 
2013-01-01 04:00:27 AM  

Molavian: Paco. That crazy mother sells anything.


I don't know what that means, but it mad me laugh.
 
2013-01-01 04:00:51 AM  
Quite frankly I'm shocked, SHOCKED...that the armpit of California has violence associated with it.

Personally I'm getting a kick out of everyone who thinks this is a surprise.
 
2013-01-01 04:01:10 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: mikaloyd: Real Women Drink Akvavit: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

I was gonna go for Bakersfield or Fresno as the armpit, then I realized they're more like the diseased crotch of California. So Stockton (or Modesto) it is!

Hey! I hope your midnight kiss has a diseased crotch!

Do you really wanna make me cry


nope. Not in this new year
 
2013-01-01 04:02:11 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: tinfoil-hat maggie:I think I'm in love , don't worry I'll worship from afar, but yea my uncle and dad taught me to shoot when I was 7, and well my ex she had ad a masters in archeology she had a real claymore, and longsword that I learned a bit on. Those were really fun : )

I think my proudest acquisition is an actual, genuine (as far as we know and were told) Zweihander. It's a sharp, so I can't play with it, and it's so very old so I'd not play with it anyway. I believe it is genuine, as it has some leather straps wrapped around the hilt and what appears to be  blood stains on them. Wow. Just wow. I didn't even know leather could last that long. What, five centuries or something? This is why my sis won't come into my lair if I'm not in here. She's creeped out by a lot of the stuff in here.  In all fairness, I'm creeped out by all her  Beatles memorabilia, stuffed animal frogs and bunnies (???) and Bob Marley stuff, so I guess we're even.

/she's still one of my BFFs, though


Damn, I have no idea right now what a Zweihander is but I'm gonna look that up. And damn I love objects that have history to them, that's cool.
 
2013-01-01 04:02:31 AM  

Gosling: relcec: I have a friend from stockton.
he'll deny up and down that it is the biggest piece of shiat west of the mississipi river.

Well, your friend is right. You know, ever since Galactus took that giant dump in Wichita.


someday he'll find out el paso/ciudad jaurez is west of the Mississippi, and then I'll have to concede it is the second least appealing city west of the Mississippi, and then the argument won't be nearly as much fun for me.

i4.tinypic.comView Full Size
 
2013-01-01 04:02:35 AM  

mgshamster: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: BadReligion: Most gun crimes in this country happen with illegally obtained guns.

Illegally obtained...from whom?

The military?  http://www.examiner.com/article/the-insider-threat-from-gang-members- t he-u-s-military


Ban the military? So hispanics, sports bars, fireworks, and military.
 
2013-01-01 04:02:45 AM  
A fireworks show would make great cover for a rampage.
 
2013-01-01 04:03:14 AM  

Fade2black: Quite frankly I'm shocked, SHOCKED...that the armpit of California has violence associated with it.

Personally I'm getting a kick out of everyone who thinks this is a surprise.


No one is surprised by this, armpit or otherwise.
That's kinda the problem.
 
2013-01-01 04:03:21 AM  

mikaloyd: Real Women Drink Akvavit: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

I was gonna go for Bakersfield or Fresno as the armpit, then I realized they're more like the diseased crotch of California. So Stockton (or Modesto) it is!

Hey! I hope your midnight kiss has a diseased crotch!


There are these amazing things called "antibiotics" that can deal with diseased crotch syndrome. Unfortunately, I don't think there are enough antibiotics on this earth to deal with Bakersfield and Fresno. Besides, I didn't kiss dude's crotch, though I'm sure he was contemplating the concept.

/OK, Bakersfield and Fresno are not that bad
//they're more like a stinky crotch rather than a diseased crotch
///dudes. take care of that shiat. and hand over your oil. please.
 
2013-01-01 04:05:12 AM  
Hmmm, another area with tight gun controls, respective to the rest of the US, is shot up. I'm starting to think we need tighter gun control
 
2013-01-01 04:06:14 AM  

cybrwzrd: Maybe it is time to make gun ownership illegal, and give the death penalty to those who refuse to give them up/continue to own them. That way the gun nuts can live out their masturbatory fantasy of going down in a fight with the government and the rest of us can be a little safer knowing that there are less guns on the street/available to be stolen for the purpose of mass murder. Sounds like a win/win situation to me, and everyone can be happy.


Bring it on. If they somehow manage to remove all of us 'gun nuts', what makes you think that something you like won't be next? I suppose pacifying all of you will be much simpler.
 
2013-01-01 04:06:15 AM  
Better a mass shooting everyday killing a handful of people than throwing undesirables into ovens, starving millions through bad policy and neglect, or outright mass extermination through labor camps or ethnic cleansing. Yeah I wish these shootings didn't happen, but the alternative is infinitely worse. Let people be shot daily, I won't change my factually based, historically sound opinion one millimeter.

when unchecked tyranny comes, the gun control advocates will give up the arms their leaders will use to execute them with.
 
2013-01-01 04:07:25 AM  

at80eighty: because a constitution could never be wrong


Feel free to amend it if it's wrong. It's been 27 times, with some things added then repealed.
 
2013-01-01 04:08:00 AM  
Or, you know. Any other night in New Orleans. : \
 
2013-01-01 04:08:25 AM  
 
2013-01-01 04:08:38 AM  
I was in sac town yesterday so I'm getting a kick.....
 
2013-01-01 04:09:46 AM  

kriegfusion: Better a mass shooting everyday killing a handful of people than throwing undesirables into ovens, starving millions through bad policy and neglect, or outright mass extermination through labor camps or ethnic cleansing. Yeah I wish these shootings didn't happen, but the alternative is infinitely worse. Let people be shot daily, I won't change my factually based, historically sound opinion one millimeter.

when unchecked tyranny comes, the gun control advocates will give up the arms their leaders will use to execute them with.


Also, zombie apocalypse
 
2013-01-01 04:11:11 AM  

relcec: Notabunny: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

Sacramento is a good solid B-level city, but it loses some of its shine because of the neighbors; San Francisco, San Jose, Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, etc. Stockton on the other hand...

I'll give it a c
being between san fransisco and tahoe is the most charming thing about it. when the most redeeming part of your city is the ability to get the f*ck out of it to somewhere nice you don't get a b.




Depending on how much of the surrounding area you want to classify with the Capitol, there are a lot of other good things. Lots of rivers to fish, or go rafting, or water ski. A good amount of lakes, too. Wine country just to the south and east (apple hill is fantastic). Gold country as well. Napa valley (and all their wineries) is an hour away to the northwest. I guess that still qualifies as "leaving cap city to visit other places," but I like to think of it more as a central hub.
 
2013-01-01 04:11:25 AM  

kriegfusion: Better a mass shooting everyday killing a handful of people than throwing undesirables into ovens, starving millions through bad policy and neglect, or outright mass extermination through labor camps or ethnic cleansing. Yeah I wish these shootings didn't happen, but the alternative is infinitely worse. Let people be shot daily, I won't change my factually based, historically sound opinion one millimeter.

when unchecked tyranny comes, the gun control advocates will give up the arms their leaders will use to execute them with.


You could just say, "We need these things to shoot American soldiers."
 
2013-01-01 04:11:30 AM  

kriegfusion: Better a mass shooting everyday killing a handful of people than throwing undesirables into ovens, starving millions through bad policy and neglect, or outright mass extermination through labor camps or ethnic cleansing. Yeah I wish these shootings didn't happen, but the alternative is infinitely worse. Let people be shot daily, I won't change my factually based, historically sound opinion one millimeter.

when unchecked tyranny comes, the gun control advocates will give up the arms their leaders will use to execute them with.


so zero regulation of guns or mass murder and genocide. how does Somalia fit into your Manichaean world?
 
2013-01-01 04:12:49 AM  
well, I guess we'll never know from whom illegal guns are obtained from.
 
2013-01-01 04:12:51 AM  

retarded: Now is not the time to have a discussion about gun control. Again.


Not when it involves a shooting in the state capital in a state with some of the most restrictive gun laws around. Been there, done that. What other gun control laws would you like to try? Chicago and DC showed the futility and ineffectiveness of shiatting all over the 2nd amendment and banning handguns.

If CA really likes gun control, it should realize that concepts like state sovereignty are what enable these (misguided, IMO) policies. NV doesn't force gambling, prostitution, 24 hour liquor sales, 'loose' gun laws, or other polices on CA; OR doesn't force zero sales tax, so perhaps CA could do us all favor and keep their gun control confined to their state borders.
 
2013-01-01 04:12:59 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kriegfusion: Better a mass shooting everyday killing a handful of people than throwing undesirables into ovens, starving millions through bad policy and neglect, or outright mass extermination through labor camps or ethnic cleansing. Yeah I wish these shootings didn't happen, but the alternative is infinitely worse. Let people be shot daily, I won't change my factually based, historically sound opinion one millimeter.

when unchecked tyranny comes, the gun control advocates will give up the arms their leaders will use to execute them with.

You could just say, "We need these things to shoot American soldiers."


and police
 
2013-01-01 04:13:07 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: /OK, Bakersfield and Fresno are not that bad
//they're more like a stinky crotch rather than a diseased crotch
///dudes. take care of that shiat. and hand over your oil. please.


Just keep eating granola getting plastic implants to fill bikinis. "finding" yourselves and buying cheesy healing crystals from Arizona hucksters and being weird in packs. The rest of the State would hate to lose its national identity if you guys ever changed
 
2013-01-01 04:13:25 AM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: Real Women Drink Akvavit: tinfoil-hat maggie:I think I'm in love , don't worry I'll worship from afar, but yea my uncle and dad taught me to shoot when I was 7, and well my ex she had ad a masters in archeology she had a real claymore, and longsword that I learned a bit on. Those were really fun : )

I think my proudest acquisition is an actual, genuine (as far as we know and were told) Zweihander. It's a sharp, so I can't play with it, and it's so very old so I'd not play with it anyway. I believe it is genuine, as it has some leather straps wrapped around the hilt and what appears to be  blood stains on them. Wow. Just wow. I didn't even know leather could last that long. What, five centuries or something? This is why my sis won't come into my lair if I'm not in here. She's creeped out by a lot of the stuff in here.  In all fairness, I'm creeped out by all her  Beatles memorabilia, stuffed animal frogs and bunnies (???) and Bob Marley stuff, so I guess we're even.

/she's still one of my BFFs, though

Damn, I have no idea right now what a Zweihander is but I'm gonna look that up. And damn I love objects that have history to them, that's cool.


It's a very, very large German sword. "Zweihander" basically means "two hands". They're that damn big, you need two hands to use them. I got it at a gun show, as they often have other types of weapons at  those as well.  A friend of mine saw it when he was looking at katanas, knew it was European and beat street straight for me. He knows I collect that kind of thing because of my heritage. That piece set me back $950, but hey! It's a farkin'  Zweihander!! I also found out later that was actually a hell of a deal as it is "museum quality" according to the weapons guy who does my appraisals for me. (Yes, the 'real' pieces are all insured as collector's items) It's also very impressive looking on my wall. When I figure out my new digcam (eventually) I'll have to get a pic of it to post.

/got some cool boot daggers the same day
//came home broke, but happy
 
2013-01-01 04:14:06 AM  

log_jammin: well, I guess we'll never know from whom illegal guns are obtained from.


The dude said it was from Paco. Can't you read?
 
2013-01-01 04:14:08 AM  

Frederick: Just Another OC Homeless Guy: [i.imgur.com image 391x585]

I dont think those demographics actually overlap that much.


Ummm... your point?
 
2013-01-01 04:14:29 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: You could just say, "We need these things to shoot American soldiers."


We need these weapons to shoot American soldiers...IF it comes to that. Let's all hope it doesn't.
 
2013-01-01 04:16:53 AM  

mgshamster: relcec: Notabunny: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

Sacramento is a good solid B-level city, but it loses some of its shine because of the neighbors; San Francisco, San Jose, Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, etc. Stockton on the other hand...

I'll give it a c
being between san fransisco and tahoe is the most charming thing about it. when the most redeeming part of your city is the ability to get the f*ck out of it to somewhere nice you don't get a b.

Depending on how much of the surrounding area you want to classify with the Capitol, there are a lot of other good things. Lots of rivers to fish, or go rafting, or water ski. A good amount of lakes, too. Wine country just to the south and east (apple hill is fantastic). Gold country as well. Napa valley (and all their wineries) is an hour away to the northwest. I guess that still qualifies as "leaving cap city to visit other places," but I like to think of it more as a central hub.


In Sacramento you have access to all those things -and- can afford to raise a family on a single income. Try that in San Francisco.
 
2013-01-01 04:18:29 AM  

pedrop357: retarded: Now is not the time to have a discussion about gun control. Again.

Not when it involves a shooting in the state capital in a state with some of the most restrictive gun laws around. Been there, done that. What other gun control laws would you like to try? Chicago and DC showed the futility and ineffectiveness of shiatting all over the 2nd amendment and banning handguns.

If CA really likes gun control, it should realize that concepts like state sovereignty are what enable these (misguided, IMO) policies. NV doesn't force gambling, prostitution, 24 hour liquor sales, 'loose' gun laws, or other polices on CA; OR doesn't force zero sales tax, so perhaps CA could do us all favor and keep their gun control confined to their state borders.


Maybe someone should amend the US constitution so it says something about interstate commerce. The 50 states aren't sovereign, btw. In the US sovereignty rests with the people. The states are delegated certain powers as is the federal government.
 
2013-01-01 04:18:47 AM  

Bucky Katt: The dude said it was from Paco. Can't you read?


We don't have Paco here. Only Pico.
 
2013-01-01 04:19:22 AM  

Bucky Katt: pedrop357: retarded: Now is not the time to have a discussion about gun control. Again.

Not when it involves a shooting in the state capital in a state with some of the most restrictive gun laws around. Been there, done that. What other gun control laws would you like to try? Chicago and DC showed the futility and ineffectiveness of shiatting all over the 2nd amendment and banning handguns.

If CA really likes gun control, it should realize that concepts like state sovereignty are what enable these (misguided, IMO) policies. NV doesn't force gambling, prostitution, 24 hour liquor sales, 'loose' gun laws, or other polices on CA; OR doesn't force zero sales tax, so perhaps CA could do us all favor and keep their gun control confined to their state borders.

Maybe someone should amend the US constitution so it says something about interstate commerce. The 50 states aren't sovereign, btw. In the US sovereignty rests with the people. The states are delegated certain powers as is the federal government.


Nice catch.
 
2013-01-01 04:23:45 AM  

pedrop357: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: You could just say, "We need these things to shoot American soldiers."

We need these weapons to shoot American soldiers...IF it comes to that. Let's all hope it doesn't.


and Marines, airmen and sailors. police and school resource officers. ATF, FBI, Federal Marshalls, Secret Service and CIA.

except the armed guards hired by the NRA to protect us from lunatics.

/if soldiers have machine guns, tanks and attack helicopters shouldn't individual citizens have them too?
 
2013-01-01 04:24:09 AM  

Real Women Drink Akvavit: tinfoil-hat maggie: Real Women Drink Akvavit: tinfoil-hat maggie:I think I'm in love , don't worry I'll worship from afar, but yea my uncle and dad taught me to shoot when I was 7, and well my ex she had ad a masters in archeology she had a real claymore, and longsword that I learned a bit on. Those were really fun : )

I think my proudest acquisition is an actual, genuine (as far as we know and were told) Zweihander. It's a sharp, so I can't play with it, and it's so very old so I'd not play with it anyway. I believe it is genuine, as it has some leather straps wrapped around the hilt and what appears to be  blood stains on them. Wow. Just wow. I didn't even know leather could last that long. What, five centuries or something? This is why my sis won't come into my lair if I'm not in here. She's creeped out by a lot of the stuff in here.  In all fairness, I'm creeped out by all her  Beatles memorabilia, stuffed animal frogs and bunnies (???) and Bob Marley stuff, so I guess we're even.

/she's still one of my BFFs, though

Damn, I have no idea right now what a Zweihander is but I'm gonna look that up. And damn I love objects that have history to them, that's cool.

It's a very, very large German sword. "Zweihander" basically means "two hands". They're that damn big, you need two hands to use them. I got it at a gun show, as they often have other types of weapons at  those as well.  A friend of mine saw it when he was looking at katanas, knew it was European and beat street straight for me. He knows I collect that kind of thing because of my heritage. That piece set me back $950, but hey! It's a farkin'  Zweihander!! I also found out later that was actually a hell of a deal as it is "museum quality" according to the weapons guy who does my appraisals for me. (Yes, the 'real' pieces are all insured as collector's items) It's also very impressive looking on my wall. When I figure out my new digcam (eventually) I'll have to get a pic of it to post.

/got some cool boot ...


Wow, CSS : )

My ex's stuff was newly made but it was quality stuff i mean I've held replica swords and you can tell the weight difference, I guess it's the metals involved.

It's very cool you're so into history, well you're history : )
 
2013-01-01 04:26:13 AM  
So did any of y'all know the victims?
 
2013-01-01 04:26:21 AM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: kriegfusion: Better a mass shooting everyday killing a handful of people than throwing undesirables into ovens, starving millions through bad policy and neglect, or outright mass extermination through labor camps or ethnic cleansing. Yeah I wish these shootings didn't happen, but the alternative is infinitely worse. Let people be shot daily, I won't change my factually based, historically sound opinion one millimeter.

when unchecked tyranny comes, the gun control advocates will give up the arms their leaders will use to execute them with.

You could just say, "We need these things to shoot American soldiers."

if it comes to it... yeah?

You do know that the "my country right-or-wrong" German from those old war movies was intended to be a somewhat sympathetic villain right? "american" is not in unquestionable stamp of good moral standing. and "soldier" sure as fark isn't.


/some sort of licensing scheme could severely curtail access to firearms mongst the truly loony but mostly maintain huge levels of proliferation leaving us bot reasonably unhappy.
 
2013-01-01 04:28:55 AM  
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2013-01-01 04:29:00 AM  

mgshamster: relcec: Notabunny: mgshamster: cuzsis: Sacramento...armpit of California.

/what the locals told me anyway.
//wasn't very impressed with the place myself.

Armpit? Naw. There are much better places in California for that title. Like Stockton. Sacramento Is probably more like the navel.

Sacramento is a good solid B-level city, but it loses some of its shine because of the neighbors; San Francisco, San Jose, Lake Tahoe, Yosemite, etc. Stockton on the other hand...

I'll give it a c
being between san fransisco and tahoe is the most charming thing about it. when the most redeeming part of your city is the ability to get the f*ck out of it to somewhere nice you don't get a b.

Depending on how much of the surrounding area you want to classify with the Capitol, there are a lot of other good things. Lots of rivers to fish, or go rafting, or water ski. A good amount of lakes, too. Wine country just to the south and east (apple hill is fantastic). Gold country as well. Napa valley (and all their wineries) is an hour away to the northwest. I guess that still qualifies as "leaving cap city to visit other places," but I like to think of it more as a central hub.


I know whats around sacramento. folsom lake is ugly. sacramento river is boring. the best weather you get is when it rains every day for 3 months. that old sacramento is ridiculous.
you don't get to say oakland is a great city because san fransisco is a subway ride away. doesn't work that way. napa valley is a nice place. tahoe is lovely. san fransisco is great. davis is even cool. Stockton and Sacramento aren't magically made great cities to wake up in everyday by their proximity to them.
you know why the california supreme court isn't in sacramento? it got flooded out a long time ago and they temporarily moved to san fransisco and then refused to go back. we're gonna have to disagree. your surrounded by great places. just move. but you get the last word.
 
2013-01-01 04:30:05 AM  
Fista-Phobia Dick Clark is already dead dumbasses.

ixnay on Gerald Ford-tay
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/what a Sacramento firearms enthusiast may look like...
 
2013-01-01 04:30:56 AM  

mikaloyd: Real Women Drink Akvavit: /OK, Bakersfield and Fresno are not that bad
//they're more like a stinky crotch rather than a diseased crotch
///dudes. take care of that shiat. and hand over your oil. please.

Just keep eating granola getting plastic implants to fill bikinis. "finding" yourselves and buying cheesy healing crystals from Arizona hucksters and being weird in packs. The rest of the State would hate to lose its national identity if you guys ever changed


Granola? WTF is wrong with you? Don't you know how much fat there is in most granola? Sure, it makes a great exfoliant, but it's hell on the plumbing when you have to rinse it off and you'd certainly never want to eat it unless you're a Fatty McFatterson or want to be one.

/chubby, but still not eating granola
//why add fuel to the fire?
 
2013-01-01 04:31:52 AM  

BadReligion: Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.

I know my revolvers are all "ka-POW" while my rifles are all "Boom!" and my Sig Sauers go "Ka Chow" like the car in Cars. I don't own any Glocks, but "pop" sounds wrong, I think they go "kaboom!"


You are quite correct!
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Niiiiiice!
 
2013-01-01 04:32:47 AM  
it's kind of sad when the killing of two people and the injuring of 3 (taken to hospital) prompts one of you geniuses to say "this isn't a mass shooting".

it's a mass shooting, moron. too bad you're so inured to them that you don't realize the difference. it doesn't have to be 20 kids killed to qualify as "mass".

well, i hope 2012 got that out of its system. can we have less anger and violence and more peace and getting-along-ness in 2013? thanks, i'd really appreciate that.
 
2013-01-01 04:34:40 AM  

croesius: BadReligion: Pincy: "Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop," one witness said. "It sounded like a Glock."

Waiting for the gun experts to come in and argue over what a Glock really sounds like.

I know my revolvers are all "ka-POW" while my rifles are all "Boo