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2013-01-01 03:22:28 AM  
That wasn't a field goal kick ... he fumbled it off his foot, and if someone HAD recovered in the end zone, it would have been a score ... therefore, IT'S GOOD!!!
 
2013-01-01 05:29:00 AM  
B1G Officials rear their ugly heads on a national stage. You see the shiat we have to put up with???
 
2013-01-01 07:56:50 AM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: That wasn't a field goal kick ... he fumbled it off his foot, and if someone HAD recovered in the end zone, it would have been a score ... therefore, IT'S GOOD!!!


What??
 
2013-01-01 07:59:30 AM  
Seems like field goals would be one of those things where the refs could easily be replaced with an array of sensors on the goal post. Of course since they'd have to be calibrated and kept in good working order, maybe not.... given how often the play clock has to kept on the field in college ball.

/NFL, want a new toy?
 
2013-01-01 08:13:45 AM  
Georgia Tech 21 USC 7
Clemson 25 LSU 24
Virginia Tech 13 Rutgers 10
Cincinnati 48 Duke 34
Vanderbilt 38 NC State 24

The ACC is 3 and 2 in bowl games this season. With only Florida State's game against Northern Illinois left to play.
 
2013-01-01 08:48:14 AM  

varmitydog: Georgia Tech 21 USC 7
Clemson 25 LSU 24
Virginia Tech 13 Rutgers 10
Cincinnati 48 Duke 34
Vanderbilt 38 NC State 24

The ACC is 3 and 2 in bowl games this season. With only Florida State's game against Northern Illinois left to play.


Dear Tebow, that was the Clemsoniest game I've seen all year last night.
 
2013-01-01 08:52:06 AM  

varmitydog:
Vanderbilt 38 NC State 24


I was thinking that was one hell of a bowl road trip for the Vandy fans. What are we talking, maybe two miles from West End to LP Stadium, and about ten miles for the alumni out in Brentwood?
 
2013-01-01 08:58:57 AM  
Who you going to believe, him or your own lying eyes?
 
2013-01-01 09:54:35 AM  
If college rules are like the NFL, then both judges need to signal the field goal for it to count (IIRC). You can see the one on the right screw up and signal good, but the other just dumbly looks over at him. He apparently also signaled good if the call then needed to be reviewed.

So I blame the first one for seeing things wrong and blowing the call. But the second one is even worse; he saw what happened, but just went along with the first guy's call.
 
2013-01-01 10:17:06 AM  

varmitydog: Georgia Tech 21 USC 7
Clemson 25 LSU 24
Virginia Tech 13 Rutgers 10
Cincinnati 48 Duke 34
Vanderbilt 38 NC State 24

The ACC is 3 and 2 in bowl games this season. With only Florida State's game against Northern Illinois left to play.


Are you bragging? The GT, VT wins were ugly and even though I hate GT I found their win over USC funny, maybe my hatred of Kiffin over rules in state rival hate. And the Clemson win could have been predicted by anyone who has watched LSU play this year, their defense is not nearly as good and their offense has been just as bad if not worse. That's what they get for having a rapist at QB.
 
2013-01-01 11:00:09 AM  

Hilary T. N. Seuss: If college rules are like the NFL, then both judges need to signal the field goal for it to count (IIRC). You can see the one on the right screw up and signal good, but the other just dumbly looks over at him. He apparently also signaled good if the call then needed to be reviewed.

So I blame the first one for seeing things wrong and blowing the call. But the second one is even worse; he saw what happened, but just went along with the first guy's call.


There is so much stupid in this post...I don't even know where to begin...
 
2013-01-01 11:02:30 AM  

Hilary T. N. Seuss: If college rules are like the NFL, then both judges need to signal the field goal for it to count (IIRC). You can see the one on the right screw up and signal good, but the other just dumbly looks over at him. He apparently also signaled good if the call then needed to be reviewed.

So I blame the first one for seeing things wrong and blowing the call. But the second one is even worse; he saw what happened, but just went along with the first guy's call.


Yeah.... not quite.

The two officials should confer before signalling and give one signal, but they do not have to both give a signal for it to be good. Essentially each official is given responsibility for one upright -- the back judge and field judge (generally, I think, side judge might also get involved some times) each get an upright and the back judge also rules on the crossbar. If each one reports that the ball passed inside their uprights then they call good. If it's really close to one upright, then one official can make the call on their own since it's obvious about it's proximity to the other upright.

In this case the one judge knew it was well "inside" his upright, but knew it was close to the other -- so he looked for confirmation. The other judge forgot to actually look or something and made the wrong call.

The main point (which this official also screwed up) is that the officiating crew should make confident and consistent signals which is why the two goalpost officials should signal together. You should never have a case where two officials give opposite signals (i.e., touchdown and touchback) or a signal that looks like "I think it was good, maybe?"
 
2013-01-01 11:51:17 AM  
Didn't they get the 'Fark USC douchebags' memo?
 
2013-01-01 12:18:01 PM  

skinink: Who you going to believe, him or your own lying eyes?


Ya got me. Thought by now I'd realize, there ain't no way to believe my lying eyes.
 
2013-01-01 01:13:42 PM  
While it doesn't salvage a terrible, terrible season, I'm glad GT was at least able to use the embarrassment of needing a bowl waiver to complete USC's god awful season. Despite a few bad mistakes, Vad Lee continues to show potential, and I thought DC Charles Kelly actually did a decent job.

Also, the NFL replacement refs were better than the current NFL refs.
 
2013-01-01 01:29:55 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: skinink: Who you going to believe, him or your own lying eyes?

Ya got me. Thought by now I'd realize, there ain't no way to believe my lying eyes.


Did the ref get tired or did he just get lazy?
 
2013-01-01 01:33:43 PM  

Doogled: While it doesn't salvage a terrible, terrible season, I'm glad GT was at least able to use the embarrassment of needing a bowl waiver to complete USC's god awful season. Despite a few bad mistakes, Vad Lee continues to show potential, and I thought DC Charles Kelly actually did a decent job.

Also, the NFL replacement refs were better than the current NFL refs.


i.imgur.com
 
2013-01-01 01:43:54 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: believe

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2013-01-01 02:21:19 PM  

ko_kyi: Primitive Screwhead: believe hide


t1.gstatic.com
 
2013-01-01 05:16:33 PM  

Donnchadha: Yeah.... not quite. etc...


So noted! Thank you.
 
2013-01-01 05:55:48 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Doogled: While it doesn't salvage a terrible, terrible season, I'm glad GT was at least able to use the embarrassment of needing a bowl waiver to complete USC's god awful season. Despite a few bad mistakes, Vad Lee continues to show potential, and I thought DC Charles Kelly actually did a decent job.

Also, the NFL replacement refs were better than the current NFL refs.

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Meh, I'll take incompetent refs over ones that favor the more popular teams (see the instant replay call in the Vikings - Packers game).
 
2013-01-01 05:57:19 PM  

UNC_Samurai: Doogled: While it doesn't salvage a terrible, terrible season, I'm glad GT was at least able to use the embarrassment of needing a bowl waiver to complete USC's god awful season. Despite a few bad mistakes, Vad Lee continues to show potential, and I thought DC Charles Kelly actually did a decent job.

Also, the NFL replacement refs were better than the current NFL refs.

[i.imgur.com image 488x488]


ROFLMAO!!!!!
 
2013-01-01 06:04:50 PM  
As a Tech fan, I couldn't believe that one either when I saw it. How do you mess that up?

I just watched the Outback Bowl...the ref gave Michigan  a first down when the measurement was clearly a few inches short. I thought Spurrier was going to throw his visor at the Ref right there in protest.
 
2013-01-01 08:46:29 PM  

Primitive Screwhead: ko_kyi: Primitive Screwhead: believe hide

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I stepped in it up to my waist too.
 
2013-01-01 10:09:12 PM  

ko_kyi: Primitive Screwhead: ko_kyi: Primitive Screwhead: believe hide

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I stepped in it up to my waist too.


i36.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-02 12:02:56 AM  
The calls were terribly in favor of USC throughout the entire game. GT recovered two USC fumbles that were given back to USC by the refs.
 
2013-01-02 07:11:25 AM  
Gambling's got to be involved.
 
2013-01-02 02:26:54 PM  

Donnchadha: Hilary T. N. Seuss: If college rules are like the NFL, then both judges need to signal the field goal for it to count (IIRC). You can see the one on the right screw up and signal good, but the other just dumbly looks over at him. He apparently also signaled good if the call then needed to be reviewed.

So I blame the first one for seeing things wrong and blowing the call. But the second one is even worse; he saw what happened, but just went along with the first guy's call.

Yeah.... not quite.

The two officials should confer before signalling and give one signal, but they do not have to both give a signal for it to be good. Essentially each official is given responsibility for one upright -- the back judge and field judge (generally, I think, side judge might also get involved some times) each get an upright and the back judge also rules on the crossbar. If each one reports that the ball passed inside their uprights then they call good. If it's really close to one upright, then one official can make the call on their own since it's obvious about it's proximity to the other upright.

In this case the one judge knew it was well "inside" his upright, but knew it was close to the other -- so he looked for confirmation. The other judge forgot to actually look or something and made the wrong call.

The main point (which this official also screwed up) is that the officiating crew should make confident and consistent signals which is why the two goalpost officials should signal together. You should never have a case where two officials give opposite signals (i.e., touchdown and touchback) or a signal that looks like "I think it was good, maybe?"


This is coming from a HS football official: you've pretty much summed up the first two sessions of instruction that every brand new official gets before he's allowed to even take a Pop Warner field. (Excepting that you almost never have field goals in PW.) Thank you for this.

Officials' signals, including hand motions, whistles (except in the case of an inadvertent whistle) or even throwing of flags and bean bags do NOT make a ruling final or official. The philosophy of the game is always that the action on the field determines the result, and the purpose of the officiating crew is to observe that action and communicate it clearly and confidently to the teams. This is why I disagree with the idea that video review is not allowed for field goals--the blood is already on our hands now, it's just a matter of degree.

If you watch a game from the stadium, you will notice several instances where officials properly provide different signals. Most commonly, the "stop-the-clock" signal is used to supplement someone else's "incomplete pass", "touchback", or "dead ball" (single hand raised, palm forward). Some signals are obviously contradictory and should never be used together: "touchdown", "touchback", "safety", "first down", "incomplete/no good", and "wind-the-clock" have no business ever being used together, and doing so is basic mistake of fundamental crew mechanics.

I always make eye contact with my partner and nod/shake my head, step out from the goal post, stop, signal. That's how we teach our new guys. That should be foolproof, and I haven't screwed it up yet. Occasionally, we find new ways to make fools of ourselves. I just hope when I finally do it, I'm not in a post-season game on ESPN.
 
2013-01-02 02:43:06 PM  
Those refs must have been from the Big East.
 
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