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2013-01-01 03:31:30 PM

oMaJoJ: Drunk Astronaut: Embrace.
Extend.
Extinguish.

Works in business and I bet you money that's what Best Korea is trying here. Play nice, reunite, and then take over the whole show, this time with major industrial infrastructure and technology.

Truly, I believe history well demonstrates that the best thing to do with NK is not to trust a single word that comes from their mouths.

Go home, Astronaut, you're drunk. ; )

But seriously, you don't think there's any way to even begin discussions to opening a half assed line of communication between SK and NK?


There already exists a half-assed line of communication. If you want to see a whole-assed one, or even a 3/4-assed one, then the NKs will have to ease information and travel restrictions and other measures which oppress their people, and open the country to the world to some meaningful extent.

It would be foolish, if not absurd, to trust mere words from the NKs, given their history.
 
2013-01-01 03:44:54 PM

frecklesotool: My husband served in Korea for 6 years as part of the ADA ( air defense artillery or alcoholics defending America) and he absolutely loved everything except the freakishly cold weather.


I checked the temperatures at Seoul and Pyongyang, and I was shocked to see the freezing low numbers. Especially in Pyongyang. How do they provide heat to their people? How do they prevent the pipes from bursting?
 
2013-01-01 03:57:36 PM

dervish16108: frecklesotool: My husband served in Korea for 6 years as part of the ADA ( air defense artillery or alcoholics defending America) and he absolutely loved everything except the freakishly cold weather.

I checked the temperatures at Seoul and Pyongyang, and I was shocked to see the freezing low numbers. Especially in Pyongyang. How do they provide heat to their people? How do they prevent the pipes from bursting?


Your question assumes they give a shiat about their people. I expect Party officials have enough heat.
 
2013-01-01 04:03:06 PM
TRANSLATION INTO PLAIN ENGLISH: "I spent all my money on weapons and now my country is starving, so I need you to feed me while I reload my guns."

That about get it?
 
2013-01-01 04:13:43 PM

olddinosaur: TRANSLATION INTO PLAIN ENGLISH: "I spent all my money on weapons and now my country is starving, so I need you to feed me while I reload my guns."

That about get it?


i'll give you $300

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2013-01-01 04:27:03 PM

Mambo Bananapatch: dervish16108: frecklesotool: My husband served in Korea for 6 years as part of the ADA ( air defense artillery or alcoholics defending America) and he absolutely loved everything except the freakishly cold weather.

I checked the temperatures at Seoul and Pyongyang, and I was shocked to see the freezing low numbers. Especially in Pyongyang. How do they provide heat to their people? How do they prevent the pipes from bursting?

Your question assumes they give a shiat about their people. I expect Party officials have enough heat.


I expect the same, but I still don't see how they can have a functional society with people in freezing temperatures and the inevitable plumbing problems that go along with it. Unless the masses somehow get heat, but it doesn't seem possible to me given how deprived the North Korean people are. Wouldn't the people freak out at some point? Maybe I'm just being naive.
 
2013-01-01 04:56:52 PM

dervish16108: Mambo Bananapatch: dervish16108: frecklesotool: My husband served in Korea for 6 years as part of the ADA ( air defense artillery or alcoholics defending America) and he absolutely loved everything except the freakishly cold weather.

I checked the temperatures at Seoul and Pyongyang, and I was shocked to see the freezing low numbers. Especially in Pyongyang. How do they provide heat to their people? How do they prevent the pipes from bursting?

Your question assumes they give a shiat about their people. I expect Party officials have enough heat.

I expect the same, but I still don't see how they can have a functional society with people in freezing temperatures and the inevitable plumbing problems that go along with it. Unless the masses somehow get heat, but it doesn't seem possible to me given how deprived the North Korean people are. Wouldn't the people freak out at some point? Maybe I'm just being naive.


The people would certainly freak out if they realized they were deprived, which is why the government forbids them to travel or fraternize with foreigners and have international Internet access. The poor saps genuinely believe that nobody in the world has it better than they.
 
2013-01-01 05:33:41 PM
You know who else had a scheme about reunification?
www.uss-saipan.de
 
2013-01-01 08:22:43 PM

dervish16108: frecklesotool: My husband served in Korea for 6 years as part of the ADA ( air defense artillery or alcoholics defending America) and he absolutely loved everything except the freakishly cold weather.

I checked the temperatures at Seoul and Pyongyang, and I was shocked to see the freezing low numbers. Especially in Pyongyang. How do they provide heat to their people? How do they prevent the pipes from bursting?


Protip: They don't.
 
2013-01-01 09:55:37 PM

Mambo Bananapatch: spawn73: Maybe he really wants the best for the North Korean people, if he's been brainwashed into thinking that is his duty, he might annoy be assassinated by all the generals by for actually trying to do what is best.


Yeah, I was thinking the same.

I thought that if I were in his shoes, I'd go all Stalin on the generals before trying any reforms. But then again, if I were him, I'd be "looking at stuff" all day, and sleeping with a new girl each night.

Also, I'd release karaoke DVDs, because people would have to pretend to like me.
 
Esn
2013-01-02 06:09:26 AM

Mr. Eugenides: NecoConeco: Here's the full transcript.

http://tinyurl.com/bk4stfo

Reading that, it sounds like he wants reunification by the south embracing Juche. Which would be the same crap that's come out of the north for 60 years. One Korea has always been the North's vision.


Reading that, I thought the main nugget in that long speech was that he's going to try to update as much of their outdated technology as possible to bring things up to "world standards" and thereby improve economic production, particularly in the more mundane things, so that his people don't feel envious of other countries. It sounds like he's saying "that satellite stuff was all great, but next year we should focus on stuff closer to home".

The reunification stuff indeed sounds like nothing new - I don't think it was meant for foreign consumption. To be honest, I think MOST of the things North Korea says or does are best interpreted as reactions to internal events, rather than external ones.
 
Esn
2013-01-02 06:15:53 AM

dervish16108: Mambo Bananapatch: dervish16108: frecklesotool: My husband served in Korea for 6 years as part of the ADA ( air defense artillery or alcoholics defending America) and he absolutely loved everything except the freakishly cold weather.

I checked the temperatures at Seoul and Pyongyang, and I was shocked to see the freezing low numbers. Especially in Pyongyang. How do they provide heat to their people? How do they prevent the pipes from bursting?

Your question assumes they give a shiat about their people. I expect Party officials have enough heat.

I expect the same, but I still don't see how they can have a functional society with people in freezing temperatures and the inevitable plumbing problems that go along with it. Unless the masses somehow get heat, but it doesn't seem possible to me given how deprived the North Korean people are. Wouldn't the people freak out at some point? Maybe I'm just being naive.


I think they probably do have heat of some sort, except obviously in the more rural places which still run on firewood. The reason I think this is because all of their building designs come from the Soviets, and the Soviets were very good at keeping their people warm. It was not until the USSR collapsed that there started being more frequent power outages (even so, not as often as in North America).
 
Esn
2013-01-02 06:57:27 AM
Then again... I could be wrong. The article does say that the pre-1980s apartments still get heat.

Also, some info here about how it's done in the more rural areas:

They slept on a raised floor. Just inside the door was a gully where they left their shoes so as not to drag dirt into the sleeping area. They were warm in winter, thanks to the proximity of their comrades and underfloor heating. The traditional Korean cottage boasts a rudimentary but effective central heating system. The kitchen stove is at one end of the cottage, but instead of the heat being discharged straight up a chimney, it is carried through a pipe beneath the floor and expelled at the other end of the building. As the workers' kitchens were housed in a separate building, they lit a fire in an outside fireplace at one end of their barracks and employed the same principle.
 
2013-01-02 09:36:16 AM
Love that New Kids on the Block haircut Lil' Kim gots goin' on....
 
rpl
2013-01-02 02:42:31 PM
What a brave and unprecedented statement!

ecx.images-amazon.com

Oh, that's right.

Great book btw, I recommend it to anyone - it's friggin' hilarious.
 
2013-01-02 03:18:13 PM

rpl: What a brave and unprecedented statement!

[ecx.images-amazon.com image 300x300]

Oh, that's right.

Great book btw, I recommend it to anyone - it's friggin' hilarious.


I didn't know the Eternal Chairman of the Republic wrote a book translated into Englishia

to the book depository!


Mambo Bananapatch: The people would certainly freak out if they realized they were deprived, which is why the government forbids them to travel or fraternize with foreigners and have international Internet access. The poor saps genuinely believe that nobody in the world has it better than they.


Esn: I think they probably do have heat of some sort, except obviously in the more rural places which still run on firewood. The reason I think this is because all of their building designs come from the Soviets, and the Soviets were very good at keeping their people warm. It was not until the USSR collapsed that there started being more frequent power outages (even so, not as often as in North America).


Thanks guys!
 
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