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2012-12-31 07:35:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-31 07:35:29 PM  

Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.


This!
 
2012-12-31 07:36:15 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Coastalgrl: Do you know if any of this cliff nonsense has impact on retirement accounts? Mine are mostly in bonds.

If I lose it, it's not a huge deal. Just forgot to do something with it after I left my last job.

I have no idea. They are promising to come to a deal, but until they do, those are just words. They really screwed me when almost the exact thing played out last summer. They had to work something out or we were going to get a credit downgrade... Well, they f*cked that up and the market reacted violently. We'll probably know at the end of the week. If you are in bonds, you're probably fine through all this. I went to bonds myself to just wait this out. I don't have much, but it's a significant amount to me, and I'm not trusting them to do the right thing this time.


Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.
 
ecl
2012-12-31 07:36:41 PM  
media.comicbookmovie.com
 
2012-12-31 07:37:05 PM  

Goodfella: Have respect for John Boehner. After all, he is the Speaker of the House.


I really respect his ability to spontaneously come up with soulful songs for when the naughty children are ejected from the chocolate factory.

In other news, I'm sure jaybreezy looks awesome with that Braveheart-style facepaint, but I'm having a hard time getting motivated to pike up a pike and charge so that some Wealthy McWealthytons can pay a ridiculously low capital gains tax.
 
2012-12-31 07:37:17 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Indubitably: The Tax Pledge is debunked. Grow up.

It's really more like a set of guidelines.

I will say this... the Tea Party has proven OWS wrong on one count... you can really destabilize a country from within!


Yeah, when you have the wealth, man.

Seriously?
 
2012-12-31 07:37:32 PM  

DamnYankees: Good. Over the cliff we go.


i245.photobucket.com

This is no way to run a government.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:06 PM  
If you are rich the stock market going down because of GOP BS hurts you much much worse than paying 2% more in income tax.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:22 PM  

BronyMedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?


Yes, they shut down the government for about a month, but it didn't really backfire on the party as a whole.  They remained in control of both houses of Congress.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:27 PM  

On Again: [i1134.photobucket.com image 850x637]

Just a reminder.


Indeed. Didn't Norquist say he wanted to drown the United States Government in a bathtub?
Patriot my eye.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:32 PM  
The GOP will finish the job the Taliban started.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:43 PM  
i21.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-31 07:38:51 PM  

Xetal: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.

That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.


Yes Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, soon France, and then Germany, and then the rest of Europe are doing just swell. Proud to be on your little "list", leech.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:59 PM  

Indubitably: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Indubitably: The Tax Pledge is debunked. Grow up.

It's really more like a set of guidelines.

I will say this... the Tea Party has proven OWS wrong on one count... you can really destabilize a country from within!

Yeah, when you have the wealth, man.

Seriously?


You are correct, sir, you can destabilize a country from within when you appropriate the appropriate resources, amirite? *)
 
2012-12-31 07:39:03 PM  

Funk Brothers: zappaisfrank: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?
Dude.."Atlas Shrugged" was fiction. Seriously.

Atlas Shrugged was not a manual, it was a warning. Ayn Rand knew that we would have an energy shortage before the Hubbert theory became popular and well known in society.


Ayn Rand was an unschooled moron who pulled her "philosophy" out of her ass to pay her bills and make a name for herself because she was a first class narcissist and loved the attention being "shocking" for her day generated.

"Atlas Shrugged" is a turgid, needlessly verbose work of fiction which glorifies selfishness, encourages narcissism and promotes an economic structure that is unsustainable for longer than a few decades. It takes place in a world that is pretend, where the author takes "creative license as plot developer" and fabricates a societal structure that never existed (and still doesn't) to the extent the story would have you believe and it used to justify the arrogance of the "producers" to move the story along. It makes for compelling fiction, I guess, but has little true reflection on what life was like when the book was written or even now. How does any "producer" amass their fortunes? Through the labor of the "lower" class they despise. The whole narrative about "makers vs. takers" derived from this fictional world and transposed on modern society is a clever, yet very transparent, positioning ploy enabled by people who very much understand human nature and how to exploit it for personal gain.

If the sexual fantasies of a frumpy, snaggletoothed sociopath manifested as a fictitious world where ruthless capitalism is an aphrodisiac and precursor to "faux rapey sex" is your cup of tea, be my guest, but don't expect me to think you're anything but a dipstick.
 
2012-12-31 07:39:42 PM  
Done in one. I'll let Kristen Stewart express my shock

static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-12-31 07:39:48 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Funk Brothers: hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!

Obama asked for a tax increase. The CBO didn't recommended it.

Compromising is basically losing. I approve of Republican's civil disobedience as this is the highest American tradition is to resist. Eventually we'll get what we want.

You have a better idea for getting the money for paying off the country's debt? You have alternate means of the government getting the money for doing what it's supposed to do? Why do you hate contributing to living in a civilized country?


Get rid of the mortgage tax deduction and several other tax deduction programs. This will increase revenue without raising taxes on the wealthy. I don't think when you're trying to pay your bills and deep in debt that asking the rich should pay more in taxes.
 
2012-12-31 07:39:53 PM  

Coastalgrl: Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.


I might be wrong. If they do vote on something and resolve it, stocks might jump. So, it's all a crap shoot. Still easy to move the TSP around between the funds. You can do it on their website if you have your acct # and PW.
 
ecl
2012-12-31 07:39:57 PM  
tanakamusic.com
My favorite so far.
 
2012-12-31 07:40:20 PM  

Bigdogdaddy: So, what's going to happen if we go over the "cliff" and things get better? Will this prove to the right wingers that higher taxes on them won't shut down the economy?

If it goes either way, they are screwed. Sucks to shiat in your own bed and have to lie in it.


The 10% across the broad government cuts will depress the economy. Result in millions of unemployed (increasing entitlement spending too) and lead to a shrinking government (A new recession). All of which is basic Keynsian economics.

The most amazing thing about this is republicans are acknowledging this Keynsian effect now, yet have completely rejected Keynsian economics in the face of the gravest financial crisis to hit the world in 80 years.

i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-12-31 07:40:57 PM  

Shades: Xetal: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.

That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.

Yes Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, soon France, and then Germany, and then the rest of Europe are doing just swell. Proud to be on your little "list", leech.


If you took 100 percent of the top one percent's income it would cover the Federal budget for about 60 percent of the year.
 
2012-12-31 07:41:01 PM  
wikicheats.gametrailers.com

It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.
 
2012-12-31 07:41:04 PM  

AaronSynn: Okay...This is how I heard it. I'm sure you folks will jump on any inaccuracies here....

The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.
Obama said 'Nope. Gotta increase the taxes on everybody making 400-something thousand a year and up.'
Reps said 'No. Taxing the people who make a million or more will be plenty'.
Obama said 'No. If you don't go along with what I said, we'll just have to increase everybody's taxes across the board'.
Reps replied 'yeah. no. There's no need to do that'.
Obama replied 'fine, I'll tax the fark out of everybody, you unreasonable pricks'



Nope. Obama said $250k and up. Boehner said no, $1M and up. But then he couldn't even get that to pass with his own people. So Boehner was negotiating in bad faith from the get-go. Obama then offered to come up to $400k as a show of compromise. But of course, the Teabagger House won't vote for ANY tax increases on anybody, even though taxes are at historic lows, there's a bi-partisan report proving that tax cuts for the rich don't help the economy, and the GOP is allegedly "serious" about reducing the debt. In short, Obama offered to compromise, and the GOP offered absolutely NOTHING. Fark them.
 
2012-12-31 07:41:33 PM  

Goodfella: sweet jeez: Hes never held a job so the only why he knows how to get money is opm what a fu..king loser

Have respect for John Boehner. After all, he is the Speaker of the House.


The weeping one did have a job....sweeping his pappy's bar.
 
2012-12-31 07:41:51 PM  
It's funny... If you're a congresscritter, you can go on record to any kind of media and sling all manner of insult at the president for four years... But the instant he calls them out (much more politely than I would have) they start crying like little biatches.

fark 'em. He should call them out by name.
 
2012-12-31 07:42:06 PM  

Coastalgrl: Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.


Rookie mistake... I recommend you invest in commemorative plates. Especially those with Dale Earnhardt's vehicle driving up to a heavenly version of the Twin Towers while an eagle with a single tear drop falling from its eye carries the American flag.

Indubitably: Seriously?


Seriously... you and me, man, we're farking done professionally!
 
ecl
2012-12-31 07:43:46 PM  
www.foxnews.com
 
2012-12-31 07:43:53 PM  
Well... s**t. :-(
 
2012-12-31 07:44:07 PM  

GodsTumor: Goodfella: sweet jeez: Hes never held a job so the only why he knows how to get money is opm what a fu..king loser

Have respect for John Boehner. After all, he is the Speaker of the House.

The weeping one did have a job....sweeping his pappy's bar.


I thought he was in the custodial arts?
 
2012-12-31 07:44:46 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Can one of you people buy me a Lamborghini?


Man. I was just going to ask for a TotalFark... but you set your sights high.
 
2012-12-31 07:46:07 PM  

yukichigai: It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.


www.globalgoodgroup.com
 
2012-12-31 07:46:26 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Coastalgrl: Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.

Rookie mistake... I recommend you invest in commemorative plates. Especially those with Dale Earnhardt's vehicle driving up to a heavenly version of the Twin Towers while an eagle with a single tear drop falling from its eye carries the American flag.

Indubitably: Seriously?

Seriously... you and me, man, we're farking done professionally!


Hmmph, interesting, I never realized we were connected professionally...

Now, I do.

Speak for yourself.

As, I do.
 
2012-12-31 07:46:55 PM  
Did I get in before the smug dikheads pipe in that they are in the top% and they have enough spare income so a tax hike should not bother everyone else that might not be so fantastic?
 
2012-12-31 07:47:21 PM  
For a group of people so terrified of socialism, you'd think the Republicans would understand that their behavior is pushing the country closer to it.
 
2012-12-31 07:48:00 PM  

Brontes: Yeah, that is what worries me the most. Private sector has eviscerated R&D relying on buying up and licensing IP from Universities. The Univ. research rely on almost solely on grants from the government. If you thought being an academic PhD was tough now, it is about to get a whole lot worse if the cuts stay.


As a physics grad student, this really, really worries the hell out of me. At least I've only got two years left...

/And Nanophysics/nanotech IS a growth field!
 
2012-12-31 07:49:17 PM  

superdave386: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

This!


They would charge a service fee to piss a fire out. Right now, because it serves them, they are pissing on us for free. The Republican plebes must just love "golden showers".
 
2012-12-31 07:49:21 PM  

Fista-Phobia: yukichigai: It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.

[www.globalgoodgroup.com image 398x450]


http://admiralradley.com/sightings/photos/FNV_NCR_Flag.png
 
2012-12-31 07:49:50 PM  

ecl: [tanakamusic.com image 500x322]
My favorite so far.


A great bass player and the band wasn't the same with out him.
 
2012-12-31 07:50:41 PM  

Orange-Pippin: [i.imgur.com image 714x311]


Awesomeness.
 
2012-12-31 07:52:01 PM  
Hell yeah Republicans!

Protect my God given right to not pay my fair share of taxes when I hit the big powerball lottery some time in the future.
 
2012-12-31 07:53:56 PM  

highrye: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.

That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.

Yes Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, soon France, and then Germany, and then the rest of Europe are doing just swell. Proud to be on your little "list", leech.

If you took 100 percent of the top one percent's income it would cover the Federal budget for about 60 percent of the year.


Actually, it'd cover about one third of the deficit, which translates to a little over 20% of the budget. And it would cut states off entirely, and it would also end with nobody would bother to be in the top 1% anymore of even close. If we raised taxes strenuously, we would realistically get about 5% of the budget, at the most (or ~11% of the deficit). That leaves the overwhelming majority of the deficit to either be paid for in spending cuts or we just keep borrowing money until people don't want to lend us money anymore (Greece). We cannot tax our way out of this mess. We have to raise the Social Security age and drastically slash benefits. It needs to no longer be economically-viable to be on the dole. It will be that way anyway, the only options are we can do it now, when there's time to cushion the blow, or we can do it later, when reality takes a brick to our collective faces (Greece again).
 
2012-12-31 07:54:45 PM  
They just aren't going to vote on it tonight so they don't have to say the voted for a tax increase. They can just vote at noon the next day
 
2012-12-31 07:55:47 PM  

Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.



Uhh, no. Wealth doesn't magically appear. Workers created the wealth for the 1%. In reality, the working class pulled the rich up by their bootstraps. No labor, you guys get nothing. End of story.
 
2012-12-31 07:55:58 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: They just aren't going to vote on it tonight so they don't have to say the voted for a tax increase. They can just vote at noon the next day


Word. On this note, I'm off to get drunk. Happy New Year!!!
 
2012-12-31 07:57:15 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Coastalgrl: Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.

I might be wrong. If they do vote on something and resolve it, stocks might jump. So, it's all a crap shoot. Still easy to move the TSP around between the funds. You can do it on their website if you have your acct # and PW.


Yeah it's a TSP account. It's a crazy story but ended up peacing out to do a phd. Still on good terms but needed to come out of the system to do so. Makes life easier
 
2012-12-31 07:57:52 PM  
www.khalsanews.org
And one thing we can count on with respect to this Congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second."

fitsnews.com
I called this press conference to say that I know the president has fun heckling Congress, he sent a message of confrontation to Republicans. People have to wonder whether the president really wants issue resolved. Also, I do believe I'm getting the vapors.

>4.bp.blogspot.com
I say it here, it comes out there.
 
2012-12-31 07:58:11 PM  
I laugh my ass off every time a republican says obamas actions cost him the votes of republicans.

Cant lose what you aint got, cant spend what you never had

Hed get better returns on seeking the unicorn vote
 
2012-12-31 07:58:12 PM  
I'm trying to imagine the House GOP's thought process on this one.

"Hey, did you guys hear the President's press conference?  He basically called us douchebags.  haha, boy, did he screw up on that one!  That will never fly with the American people!  I suggest we go home for the night and blame everything on Obama tomorrow."
 
2012-12-31 08:00:22 PM  
It's laudable to see politicians try to limit taxes. Taxes are a necessary evil. However, Grover Norquist never tried to get politicians to sign a pledge limiting spending. So the politicians just borrowed and spent without raising taxes. Devious.

If Grover suggested controlling spending, he would have been laughed out of DC. Spending is how politicians exercise power.
 
2012-12-31 08:02:48 PM  

Mentat: I'm trying to imagine the House GOP's thought process on this one.

"Hey, did you guys hear the President's press conference?  He basically called us douchebags.  haha, boy, did he screw up on that one!  That will never fly with the American people!  I suggest we go home for the night and blame everything on Obama tomorrow."


They are so fyuked for their intransigence.
 
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