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2012-12-31 07:22:20 PM

Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Dude.."Atlas Shrugged" was fiction. Seriously.
 
2012-12-31 07:22:29 PM

Shades: Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.


Exactly. What we need to do is pull all government spending out and watch the economy wither so that the goverment's books are balanced.
 
2012-12-31 07:22:56 PM

Mrbogey: Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.

Compromise can not work when the fundamental issue has no compromise. The Democrats don't want any entitlement reform. The Republicans want something as far as entitlement reform. Congrats, you won the election but the Republicans still have a base they need to represent.


There's been plenty of entitlement reform in the past 3 years.  Obamacare had significant reforms to Medicare and Medicaid. Sure, we could use more entitlement reform though. Like reforming those farm subsidies for vacation ranches in Colorado and Montana, The gigantic tax breaks for Exron, Defense Spending...

Sadly, the only entitlement reform republicans seem willing to accept is the killing off of SS, Food Stamps, WIC and the like....when they reference drowning government in a bath tub, this is what they actually mean.
 
2012-12-31 07:23:47 PM
That's OK. All my house ever says is GET OUT.
 
ecl
2012-12-31 07:23:50 PM
costumespecialists.com
 
2012-12-31 07:24:06 PM

Coastalgrl: Do you know if any of this cliff nonsense has impact on retirement accounts? Mine are mostly in bonds.

If I lose it, it's not a huge deal. Just forgot to do something with it after I left my last job.


I have no idea. They are promising to come to a deal, but until they do, those are just words. They really screwed me when almost the exact thing played out last summer. They had to work something out or we were going to get a credit downgrade... Well, they f*cked that up and the market reacted violently. We'll probably know at the end of the week. If you are in bonds, you're probably fine through all this. I went to bonds myself to just wait this out. I don't have much, but it's a significant amount to me, and I'm not trusting them to do the right thing this time.
 
2012-12-31 07:24:06 PM

ariseatex: FTA: That combative talk drew anger from Republican senators who have been grappling for a deal with the Democratic majority in that chamber. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the president's comments "very unbecoming of where we are at this moment" and added, "My heart's still pounding."

"I know the president has fun heckling Congress," Corker said. "I think he lost probably numbers of votes with what he did."

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I heard the speech twice. There was NOTHING "heckling" in there.


What are you smoking? Yes there was. The entire speech was a heckle. He was black the ENTIRE TIME. Totally offensive to the Republican party.
 
2012-12-31 07:24:08 PM
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Get Back to Work!
 
2012-12-31 07:24:17 PM

X-boxershorts: Mrbogey: Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.

Compromise can not work when the fundamental issue has no compromise. The Democrats don't want any entitlement reform. The Republicans want something as far as entitlement reform. Congrats, you won the election but the Republicans still have a base they need to represent.

There's been plenty of entitlement reform in the past 3 years.  Obamacare had significant reforms to Medicare and Medicaid. Sure, we could use more entitlement reform though. Like reforming those farm subsidies for vacation ranches in Colorado and Montana, The gigantic tax breaks for Exron, Defense Spending...

Sadly, the only entitlement reform republicans seem willing to accept is the killing off of SS, Food Stamps, WIC and the like....when they reference drowning government in a bath tub, this is what they actually mean.


Well, we are a totally free market system.

/not
 
2012-12-31 07:24:24 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-31 07:24:42 PM

AaronSynn: Okay...This is how I heard it. I'm sure you folks will jump on any inaccuracies here....

The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.
Obama said 'Nope. Gotta increase the taxes on everybody making 400-something thousand a year and up.'
Reps said 'No. Taxing the people who make a million or more will be plenty'.
Obama said 'No. If you don't go along with what I said, we'll just have to increase everybody's taxes across the board'.
Reps replied 'yeah. no. There's no need to do that'.
Obama replied 'fine, I'll tax the fark out of everybody, you unreasonable pricks'


Yeah, pretty much. It's called 'negotiating from a position of strength'. It's what winners do.
 
ecl
2012-12-31 07:24:43 PM
thefilmist.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-31 07:24:52 PM

Xetal: Counterpoint: The rich required the benefits of this society to become rich. Their businesses are built on it and the laws of this society are what stop roving groups of heavily armed people from taking their riches.


I dunno, sedentary groups of heavily armed people are debating right now how much they should take. So what's the difference?
 
2012-12-31 07:25:00 PM

cig-mkr: CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.

And you don't worry about the tax on dividends? Going up from 15% to ~ 43% because they are calling it regular income.


If dividends are a significant part of your income, they *are* "regular income"....
 
2012-12-31 07:25:08 PM
i1134.photobucket.com

Just a reminder.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:08 PM
A pound of flesh here, a pound of flesh there.

Enjoy your meal.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:20 PM
Of course the House is talking.

So. America. Why shouldn't I just kill you now?
 
2012-12-31 07:25:40 PM
There are sure a lot of 1%ers in this thread... Might want to re-evaluate that, it's more likely the people you are indebted to.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:43 PM

Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?


Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:50 PM

zappaisfrank: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?
Dude.."Atlas Shrugged" was fiction. Seriously.


Atlas Shrugged was not a manual, it was a warning. Ayn Rand knew that we would have an energy shortage before the Hubbert theory became popular and well known in society.
 
2012-12-31 07:26:13 PM

CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.


If you're in the top 1% (income-wise) and haven't bothered to save substantial assets that would generate qualified dividends and long-term capital-gains (both taxed at 0-15% under the Bush tax cuts, normal income rates over the cliff), I'd say you've farked up, but I guess I've seen a lot of MDs finances that look like that.
 
2012-12-31 07:26:19 PM

AaronSynn: The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.


False. This was Boehner's plan B. It couldn't pass the House.
 
2012-12-31 07:27:00 PM
Welcome to the House of Dumb.
 
2012-12-31 07:27:01 PM

Orange-Pippin: [i.imgur.com image 630x466]


The Tax Pledge is debunked. Grow up.

That means doing your fair share, young man...
 
2012-12-31 07:28:04 PM

On Again: [i1134.photobucket.com image 850x637]

Just a reminder.


I'm not one of them, jackhat.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:14 PM
That's it. I've had enough of this bullshiat. Seal the doors. Nail them shut. Toss in some vending machine snacks and a Keurig. They can piss in the corners and shiat in a trash can.

Nobody. Farking. Leaves. Until. They. Figure. This. Out.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:16 PM

Funk Brothers: The Kingdom of Hawaii was ruled by a Monarchy/Dictator.


I realize I'm taking the bait, but the Kingdom of Hawaii operated as a constitutional monarchy from 1840 onwards.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:18 PM

Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.


Choose all that apply:

a) credits and debits
b) cuts and revenue
c) deficit spending
d) supply-side economics
 
2012-12-31 07:28:32 PM

Xetal: Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.

Counterpoint: The rich required the benefits of this society to become rich. Their businesses are built on it and the laws of this society are what stop roving groups of heavily armed people from taking their riches.


Which is why they already carry a higher tax burden. It just isn't enough by your standards and doesn't even come close to fixing any if the actual problems.

But keep acting like it's the magic bullet that will solve all our fiscal problems because "evil rich"!

\doesn't care if rich people pay higher taxes.
\\does care about reduced spending across the board.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:39 PM

Kome: heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.

Who would use a Bachmann based measurement? That's just retarded.




The Palin measurement is a measure of stupidity. The Bachmann measurement measures crazy.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:44 PM

namegoeshere: That's it. I've had enough of this bullshiat. Seal the doors. Nail them shut. Toss in some vending machine snacks and a Keurig. They can piss in the corners and shiat in a trash can.

Nobody. Farking. Leaves. Until. They. Figure. This. Out.


We're better off going off the cliff.
 
ecl
2012-12-31 07:29:05 PM
991.com
 
2012-12-31 07:29:20 PM

Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.


That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.
 
2012-12-31 07:30:22 PM
Fu.k him where trying to save your ass from the taxacrats
 
2012-12-31 07:30:35 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?
 
2012-12-31 07:30:41 PM

Infernalist: namegoeshere: That's it. I've had enough of this bullshiat. Seal the doors. Nail them shut. Toss in some vending machine snacks and a Keurig. They can piss in the corners and shiat in a trash can.

Nobody. Farking. Leaves. Until. They. Figure. This. Out.

We're better off going off the cliff.


If we set up some web cams in there, we could probably make a buck or two off the footage.
 
2012-12-31 07:31:06 PM
Well of course. I mean, why would you want to do anything to help people, House, when there's so many political points to score? Gotta be sure you can blah blah blah or yackity schmakity in your TV ads in 2 years. Farking worthless skin flecks of humanity.
 
ecl
2012-12-31 07:31:25 PM
www.derbydeadpool.co.uk
 
2012-12-31 07:31:35 PM

Peaceboy: Well, I ain't losin' sleep.  And I ain't countin' sheep.


R. VanWinkle
 
2012-12-31 07:32:11 PM

BronyMedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?


That was different. They literally shut the government down. That's not what this is.
 
2012-12-31 07:32:11 PM

BronyMedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?


Roughly. They shut down the government for some stupid reason or another and tried to blame Clinton for it. The public, showing remarkable ability to ignore their lies, blamed the GOP instead.
 
2012-12-31 07:32:12 PM

Indubitably: The Tax Pledge is debunked. Grow up.


It's really more like a set of guidelines.

I will say this... the Tea Party has proven OWS wrong on one count... you can really destabilize a country from within!
 
2012-12-31 07:32:21 PM
Hes never held a job so the only why he knows how to get money is opm what a fu..king loser
 
2012-12-31 07:32:25 PM

jaybeezey: Xetal: Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.

Counterpoint: The rich required the benefits of this society to become rich. Their businesses are built on it and the laws of this society are what stop roving groups of heavily armed people from taking their riches.

Which is why they already carry a higher tax burden. It just isn't enough by your standards and doesn't even come close to fixing any if the actual problems.

But keep acting like it's the magic bullet that will solve all our fiscal problems because "evil rich"!

\doesn't care if rich people pay higher taxes.
\\does care about reduced spending across the board.


How much of a higher tax burden is reasonable is the question.

There were times in our history where they carried a much higher tax burden than they do now. It wasn't tyranny then, and still isn't now.

Paying 20% of your income (taxed as capital gains) instead of 15% for the ultrarich seems pretty silly when people making significantly less are paying more because it is taxed as income...
 
2012-12-31 07:33:36 PM

sweet jeez: Hes never held a job so the only why he knows how to get money is opm what a fu..king loser


Have respect for John Boehner. After all, he is the Speaker of the House.
 
2012-12-31 07:33:40 PM

Funk Brothers: hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!

Obama asked for a tax increase. The CBO didn't recommended it.

Compromising is basically losing. I approve of Republican's civil disobedience as this is the highest American tradition is to resist. Eventually we'll get what we want.


You have a better idea for getting the money for paying off the country's debt? You have alternate means of the government getting the money for doing what it's supposed to do? Why do you hate contributing to living in a civilized country?
 
2012-12-31 07:33:46 PM

Infernalist: BronyMedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?

Roughly. They shut down the government for some stupid reason or another and tried to blame Clinton for it. The public, showing remarkable ability to ignore their lies, blamed the GOP instead.


Newt Gingrich shut it down because Clinton snubbed him on AF1. We're dealing with a house that is even less rational than that.

Scary.
 
ecl
2012-12-31 07:34:21 PM
blacksnob.com
 
2012-12-31 07:34:50 PM

shower_in_my_socks: I just got a job that pays $90k/year. Can someone tell me if I'm better off quitting and moving to a shack in the forest? I have a couple of pages written for my manifesto, and at least 10 more in outline form. My hair's a little thin on top, but I can grow a wicked crazy beard if I commit to it.


Well, with the game the GOP is playing, you might simply be sent back to the unemployment line. So, I wouldn't jump the gun on the wingnut recluse thing. Just wait for the GOP to tank the economy again and decider it for you.
 
2012-12-31 07:34:56 PM
So, what's going to happen if we go over the "cliff" and things get better? Will this prove to the right wingers that higher taxes on them won't shut down the economy?

If it goes either way, they are screwed. Sucks to shiat in your own bed and have to lie in it.
 
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