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2012-12-31 05:20:24 PM  
Very well played, subby!


As to the matter at hand, it's not surprising in the least.
 
2012-12-31 05:24:33 PM  
Well, I ain't losin' sleep.  And I ain't countin' sheep.
 
2012-12-31 05:35:36 PM  
Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?
 
2012-12-31 05:39:47 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?


Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.
 
2012-12-31 05:54:00 PM  

Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.


 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.
 
2012-12-31 05:56:42 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?


You can double down and make it special.... For yourself!

/am for higher taxes on higher incomes
 
2012-12-31 05:57:59 PM  

AlwaysRightBoy: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

You can double down and make it special.... For yourself!

/am for higher taxes on higher incomes


Same here.  Let's pay for the farking debt.  Tax me.  I promise I won't miss a grand or so over the year, and I'm in the VERY BOTTOM of the 1%.  2-3% just isn't anything.
 
2012-12-31 06:10:57 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: I'm in the top 1%.


So am I, but I don't remember seeing you at any of the meetings or soirees.  Are you one of those 1%-ers who thinks he's too good for even us?
 
2012-12-31 06:11:30 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?


Because it's going to end unemployment benefits for millions, it's going to cut payments to doctors for Medicare, which might cause doctors to drop patients, and while a few bucks might not be much to you, to people who don't have any excess from payday to payday it does matter.
 
2012-12-31 06:16:26 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: AlwaysRightBoy: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

You can double down and make it special.... For yourself!

/am for higher taxes on higher incomes

Same here.  Let's pay for the farking debt.  Tax me.  I promise I won't miss a grand or so over the year, and I'm in the VERY BOTTOM of the 1%.  2-3% just isn't anything.


I agree, it will make me adjust. I'll get over it.
Burying ones head in the sand is not the answer.
 
2012-12-31 06:22:37 PM  
Can one of you people buy me a Lamborghini?

/Nah, I'm not really that tacky. :)
//Glad I moved out of equities at the end of the day. Staying put until the market sorts this out. Got burned hard last time they played with the debt ceiling.
 
2012-12-31 06:42:07 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Can one of you people buy me a Lamborghini?

/Nah, I'm not really that tacky. :)
//Glad I moved out of equities at the end of the day. Staying put until the market sorts this out. Got burned hard last time they played with the debt ceiling.


FFS

Why cant I stop thinking about the TV show Chuck? As soon as I saw "Lamborghini", that was the first thing that popped into me head
 
2012-12-31 06:45:40 PM  
Isn't this great!?! The Tea Party has won the day by limiting government all at once.  This reminds me of a famous line or two from Shakespeare's MacBeth.

All my pretty ones?
Did you say all? O hell-kite! All?
What, all my pretty chickens and their dam
At one fell swoop?


Say hello to cuts in defense like military benefits and corporate welfare as well as in social services like food stamps and health care for the elderly and disabled.

/I didn't vote Tea Party nor Grover Norquist, so don't blame me.
 
2012-12-31 06:52:58 PM  
Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.
 
2012-12-31 06:54:41 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.


Going over the fiscal cliff hits poor people harder than rich people. It's the agreements to avoid the fiscal cliff that will hit rich people harder than poor people.

But I agree, you can afford it.
 
2012-12-31 06:59:52 PM  
Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?
 
2012-12-31 07:00:02 PM  
FTA: That combative talk drew anger from Republican senators who have been grappling for a deal with the Democratic majority in that chamber. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the president's comments "very unbecoming of where we are at this moment" and added, "My heart's still pounding."

"I know the president has fun heckling Congress," Corker said. "I think he lost probably numbers of votes with what he did."


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I heard the speech twice. There was NOTHING "heckling" in there.
 
2012-12-31 07:00:18 PM  
This is the point when the Marines based near by and surround the capital building and not them out until they have actually come to a decision. What they are are doing is tantamount to treason. It would be a dangerous precedent to set, but, we could use an praetorian guard every now and again.
 
2012-12-31 07:00:28 PM  
Is it lupus?
 
2012-12-31 07:00:59 PM  

GAT_00: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because it's going to end unemployment benefits for millions, it's going to cut payments to doctors for Medicare, which might cause doctors to drop patients, and while a few bucks might not be much to you, to people who don't have any excess from payday to payday it does matter.


THIS. This shiat just pisses me off. I just want to know what Mrs. WTFDYW and me know what to look for when we file taxes.
 
2012-12-31 07:01:24 PM  

Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?


derp derp derp
 
2012-12-31 07:01:41 PM  

Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.


Well, the constitution says spending bills must originate in the house, so maybe they could have passed a bill or something. Or at least have allowed a vote on one. Maybe.
 
2012-12-31 07:02:14 PM  

xtupload.com

 
2012-12-31 07:02:37 PM  

Funk Brothers: Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?


Because they are not people in need. Those in need always come before those who are not in need.
 
2012-12-31 07:02:45 PM  
The President taunted them, plain and simple, to ensure that he both looked good to the public, and stoked that hatred in the Congress.

The nation is served best by this cliff. The new Congress can fix things, a piece at a time, and if the GOP should try to stick tax cuts for the wealthy into any of it, then they'll get called out for it.
 
2012-12-31 07:02:52 PM  
Hasn't this been what the crazies have wanted all along?

We don't need no water-Let the motherfarker burn!
Burn, motherfarker, burn!
 
2012-12-31 07:03:27 PM  
Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!
 
2012-12-31 07:03:43 PM  

cman: NewportBarGuy: Can one of you people buy me a Lamborghini?

/Nah, I'm not really that tacky. :)
//Glad I moved out of equities at the end of the day. Staying put until the market sorts this out. Got burned hard last time they played with the debt ceiling.

FFS

Why cant I stop thinking about the TV show Chuck? As soon as I saw "Lamborghini", that was the first thing that popped into me head


It's severe Yvonne withdrawls, I recommend http://www.mysobe.com/miami-beach/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Yvonne-St rahovski-nude-in-South-Beach.jpg

/NSFW if you missed the "nude" part
 
2012-12-31 07:03:47 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Funk Brothers: Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Because they are not people in need. Those in need always come before those who are not in need.


I don't think we should be raising taxes. If Obama does succeed, Conservatives and Tea Party groups should be taking this to the courts to protest this tax raise on the wealthy.
 
2012-12-31 07:04:27 PM  
Hell of a reach to get to a Cliff Richard reference, <b>subby</b>.
 
2012-12-31 07:04:33 PM  
I own a computer software company. This tax increase isn't going to hurt me at all. I am the 1%. I like Obama. Suck it. Suck it hard GOP.
 
2012-12-31 07:04:38 PM  

Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?


I live with my mom. The Tea Party is ruining this country. Or, I should say, the Koch brothers are ruining this country, while hiding behind a bunch of white evangelical rubes.
 
2012-12-31 07:04:47 PM  

ariseatex: FTA: That combative talk drew anger from Republican senators who have been grappling for a deal with the Democratic majority in that chamber. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the president's comments "very unbecoming of where we are at this moment" and added, "My heart's still pounding."

"I know the president has fun heckling Congress," Corker said. "I think he lost probably numbers of votes with what he did."

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I heard the speech twice. There was NOTHING "heckling" in there.


They knew they wouldn't be able to achieve anything, and were just waiting for Obama to say something so they could blame their failure to act on being offended by him. In the event that he didn't say anything, they would have blamed their failure on Obama not taking leadership.
 
2012-12-31 07:04:53 PM  

Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?


Because the rich are supposed to be job creators. But unemployment is, after many years, still at 8%.

The rich have been lazy and have failed at their job of being job creators. Therefore they forfeit their protected status of being trickle-down voodoo economics job creators. No more handouts from the middle class to the rich for being lazy bums.
 
2012-12-31 07:05:05 PM  
We just need to sneak in one more bill affirming Jesus, banning abortion and name a post office, an the most recent Congress' hard work will come to fruition.
 
2012-12-31 07:05:20 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Funk Brothers: Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Because they are not people in need. Those in need always come before those who are not in need.


It's sad that you have to explain that to some people.
 
2012-12-31 07:05:41 PM  

Funk Brothers: WhyteRaven74: Funk Brothers: Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Because they are not people in need. Those in need always come before those who are not in need.

I don't think we should be raising taxes. If Obama does succeed, Conservatives and Tea Party groups should be taking this to the courts to protest this tax raise on the wealthy.


What would they take to the courts? Tax raises? I'm pretty sure that's completely legal.
 
2012-12-31 07:05:48 PM  
And don't come crying to us when you're voted out in '14.
Remember what you've done.
 
2012-12-31 07:05:50 PM  
I'm rooting for the fiscal cliff.

More taxes? I already have so many it's insane, won't notice.

Less government spending? Now that's something significant that I've never seen. Been around awhile, too.
 
2012-12-31 07:05:58 PM  
www.trbimg.com

My heart bleeds...
 
2012-12-31 07:06:03 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.


And you don't worry about the tax on dividends? Going up from 15% to ~ 43% because they are calling it regular income.
 
2012-12-31 07:06:12 PM  
Our House (of Representatives)?
That's Madness.
 
2012-12-31 07:06:17 PM  
Way to be a grown-up in OUR House, douchebags...

Heads will role.

*)
 
2012-12-31 07:06:26 PM  

Funk Brothers: WhyteRaven74: Funk Brothers: Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Because they are not people in need. Those in need always come before those who are not in need.

I don't think we should be raising taxes. If Obama does succeed, Conservatives and Tea Party groups should be taking this to the courts to protest this tax raise on the wealthy.


Opinion noted. Now go back to cradling your gun and whispering the names of the founding fathers before you pass out in a stupor every evening.
 
2012-12-31 07:06:42 PM  
Lots of butt hurt in here already. I can't wait to check this thread later when I'm hammered.
 
2012-12-31 07:06:43 PM  
Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?
 
2012-12-31 07:07:02 PM  

Indubitably: Way to be a grown-up in OUR House, douchebags...

Heads will role.

*)


APOSTROPHE!, headline.
 
2012-12-31 07:07:43 PM  

hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!


Obama asked for a tax increase. The CBO didn't recommended it.

Compromising is basically losing. I approve of Republican's civil disobedience as this is the highest American tradition is to resist. Eventually we'll get what we want.
 
2012-12-31 07:07:46 PM  

Infernalist: The nation is served best by this cliff. The new Congress can fix things, a piece at a time, and if the GOP should try to stick tax cuts for the wealthy into any of it, then they'll get called out for it.


The New Congress? Same as the old Congress, only moreso?
 
2012-12-31 07:07:53 PM  

iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?


I think that's pretty self-explanatory, don't you?
 
2012-12-31 07:07:58 PM  

Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.


Compromise can not work when the fundamental issue has no compromise. The Democrats don't want any entitlement reform. The Republicans want something as far as entitlement reform. Congrats, you won the election but the Republicans still have a base they need to represent.
 
2012-12-31 07:08:15 PM  
Yeah gerrymandering!
 
2012-12-31 07:08:38 PM  
I just got a job that pays $90k/year. Can someone tell me if I'm better off quitting and moving to a shack in the forest? I have a couple of pages written for my manifesto, and at least 10 more in outline form. My hair's a little thin on top, but I can grow a wicked crazy beard if I commit to it.
 
2012-12-31 07:08:55 PM  

Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?


I'll put it in simple numbers. Tax a millionaire an extra 5% and he loses $50,000 to the government. But he's a millionaire. And he's been so for a long time. If he's smart, he can more than afford it. Tax someone making $30,000 an extra 5%, he loses $1,500 to DC. Since the millionaire probably doesn't live paycheck to paycheck, he's fine. But the other guy probably is and the extra $1.5k hurts him. But I'm willing to bet he'd be willing to pay it if the richest, sneakiest scoundrels who find every way possible to skirt tax law would STFU and pay there share. Or at the very least, give the poor guy a raise every so often.
 
2012-12-31 07:09:06 PM  

Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?


Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
 
2012-12-31 07:10:00 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: I just got a job that pays $90k/year. Can someone tell me if I'm better off quitting and moving to a shack in the forest? I have a couple of pages written for my manifesto, and at least 10 more in outline form. My hair's a little thin on top, but I can grow a wicked crazy beard if I commit to it.


If you don't know how a progressive tax system works, yes, give up now.  Otherwise, be grateful and appreciate all the hard work you've done to get where you are.
 
2012-12-31 07:10:00 PM  
Dear House GOP,

Kindly please go fark yourselves.

Sincerely,
America
 
2012-12-31 07:10:16 PM  
"That's it. I'm moving to Singapore." -- Rafalca
 
2012-12-31 07:11:16 PM  

angrymacface: Infernalist: The nation is served best by this cliff. The new Congress can fix things, a piece at a time, and if the GOP should try to stick tax cuts for the wealthy into any of it, then they'll get called out for it.

The New Congress? Same as the old Congress, only moreso?


Well, the new congress won't have any lame duck Tea Derpers stinking up the joint. And they'll walk in with the albatross of 'high taxes' around their necks. Not a big thing for the Democrats, but the GOP? That's a big deal for them. They're going to want to fix that and do it in a hurry. They'll want to pass a bill cutting taxes for everyone, basically try to reinstate the Bush Tax Cuts, but the Senate and the President won't allow it. The Democrats 'will' try repeatedly to pass bills cutting taxes for those making under 250k, but will anticipate the GOP trying to attach riders. Expect lots of press conferences and youtube speeches from the President harassing the GOP about holding 'middle america' hostage to the desire to cut taxes for the wealthy.

For the love of god, I'm not even a politician and I'm fully aware of what they've got in store for the GOP.
 
2012-12-31 07:11:46 PM  
"I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is called a disgrace; that two are called a law firm, and that three or more become a Congress!" - John Adams (1776 Musical)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqAdlkJDt7k
 
2012-12-31 07:12:13 PM  

Funk Brothers: WhyteRaven74: Funk Brothers: Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Because they are not people in need. Those in need always come before those who are not in need.

I don't think we should be raising taxes. If Obama does succeed, Conservatives and Tea Party groups should be taking this to the courts to protest this tax raise on the wealthy.


You're absolutely right, they should do exactly that. There's absolutely no way that could possibly backfire on them.


bmihura: Less government spending? Now that's something significant that I've never seen. Been around awhile, too.


You're a terrible liar.
 
2012-12-31 07:12:28 PM  

iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?


the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.
 
2012-12-31 07:12:34 PM  

Scaevola: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

I live with my mom. The Tea Party is ruining this country. Or, I should say, the Koch brothers are ruining this country, while hiding behind a bunch of white evangelical rubes.


Obama is ruining this country. Haven't you seen all the warning signs? Obama was born on the Kingdom of Hawaii. The Kingdom of Hawaii was ruled by a Monarchy/Dictator. This tax increase on the rich is leading us towards the road to dictatorship under Obama and towards a unprecedented third term.

When you have companies such as Hobby Lobby or other small businesses employing over 50 workers resisting certain parts of the healthcare law over religious freedom, something is wrong in this country.
 
2012-12-31 07:12:51 PM  
So the Republican talking point now is that "Obama said mean things so we're not going to vote to do what is best for the country"?

That seems pretty pathetic, really.
 
2012-12-31 07:13:14 PM  

Brontes: shower_in_my_socks: I just got a job that pays $90k/year. Can someone tell me if I'm better off quitting and moving to a shack in the forest? I have a couple of pages written for my manifesto, and at least 10 more in outline form. My hair's a little thin on top, but I can grow a wicked crazy beard if I commit to it.

If you don't know how a progressive tax system works, yes, give up now.  Otherwise, be grateful and appreciate all the hard work you've done to get where you are.


Really?
 
2012-12-31 07:13:45 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: AlwaysRightBoy: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

You can double down and make it special.... For yourself!

/am for higher taxes on higher incomes

Same here.  Let's pay for the farking debt.  Tax me.  I promise I won't miss a grand or so over the year, and I'm in the VERY BOTTOM of the 1%.  2-3% just isn't anything.


Bah! Clearly you'll cut jobs and move overseas to one of those beautiful tax-free paradises!
 
2012-12-31 07:13:49 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: I just got a job that pays $90k/year. Can someone tell me if I'm better off quitting and moving to a shack in the forest? I have a couple of pages written for my manifesto, and at least 10 more in outline form. My hair's a little thin on top, but I can grow a wicked crazy beard if I commit to it.


I'd only recommend going the manifesto route if it's novel-length. Then several decades from now, you'll have Vice Presidential candidates citing shower_in_my_socks as their inspiration for their beliefs.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:13:56 PM  
chewthedirt.com
 
2012-12-31 07:13:57 PM  
And he warned that if Republicans think they can get future deficit reduction solely through spending cuts "that will hurt seniors, or hurt students, or hurt middle-class families without asking also equivalent sacrifice from millionaires or companies with a lot of lobbyists ... they've got another think coming."

This is what you get when Obama doesn't have his teleprompter. So sad.

trollololo
 
2012-12-31 07:14:02 PM  

heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.


Who would use a Bachmann based measurement? That's just retarded.
 
2012-12-31 07:14:22 PM  
This time it IS Lupus...
 
2012-12-31 07:14:30 PM  

GAT_00: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because it's going to end unemployment benefits for millions, it's going to cut payments to doctors for Medicare, which might cause doctors to drop patients, and while a few bucks might not be much to you, to people who don't have any excess from payday to payday it does matter.


It's also going to slash the NIH budget by nearly 10%, which means that funding for basic biomedical research is going to be ass. Hope you didn't need that cure for cancer!

/it's really going to suck
 
2012-12-31 07:14:31 PM  

Xetal: So the Republican talking point now is that "Obama said mean things so we're not going to vote to do what is best for the country"?

That seems pretty pathetic, really.



They were going to fake a blood clot, but that excuse was already taken.

/I keed, I keed...
 
2012-12-31 07:15:03 PM  

cig-mkr: CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.

And you don't worry about the tax on dividends? Going up from 15% to ~ 43% because they are calling it regular income.


It is regular income.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:15:07 PM  
blogs.adobe.com
 
2012-12-31 07:15:42 PM  

Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.


They could have torn their clothing from their bodies while wailing 'The end is nigh, the black man got a second term'.

Because that's really what wrenched up the works: the Tea Party and a large portion of the GOP had absolutely NO farkING PLAN in place for Obama's reelection.

These are stupid, stupid people we're dealing with here, and the sooner we stop taking them seriously the better off we're going to be.
 
2012-12-31 07:15:52 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Xetal: So the Republican talking point now is that "Obama said mean things so we're not going to vote to do what is best for the country"?

That seems pretty pathetic, really.


They were going to fake a blood clot, but that excuse was already taken.

/I keed, I keed...


This is the US Government son, they don't FAKE a blood clot, they just give you a real one!
 
2012-12-31 07:16:09 PM  

Funk Brothers: Scaevola: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

I live with my mom. The Tea Party is ruining this country. Or, I should say, the Koch brothers are ruining this country, while hiding behind a bunch of white evangelical rubes.

Obama is ruining this country. Haven't you seen all the warning signs? Obama was born on the Kingdom of Hawaii. The Kingdom of Hawaii was ruled by a Monarchy/Dictator. This tax increase on the rich is leading us towards the road to dictatorship under Obama and towards a unprecedented third term.

When you have companies such as Hobby Lobby or other small businesses employing over 50 workers resisting certain parts of the healthcare law over religious freedom, something is wrong in this country.


Ahh, so you're trolling. Got it.
 
2012-12-31 07:16:12 PM  

Kome: heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.

Who would use a Bachmann based measurement? That's just retarded.


Technically, 100 Bachmanns equal one Perry. 100 Perries equals one Palin. There is no unit higher than the Palin, so we're forced to use MegaPalin.
 
2012-12-31 07:16:19 PM  

Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.


The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.
 
2012-12-31 07:16:21 PM  

ariseatex: shower_in_my_socks: I just got a job that pays $90k/year. Can someone tell me if I'm better off quitting and moving to a shack in the forest? I have a couple of pages written for my manifesto, and at least 10 more in outline form. My hair's a little thin on top, but I can grow a wicked crazy beard if I commit to it.

I'd only recommend going the manifesto route if it's novel-length. Then several decades from now, you'll have Vice Presidential candidates citing shower_in_my_socks as their inspiration for their beliefs.



Words of wisdom. My next decision is whether to self-publish it as an e-book, or mail hard copies to people in suspicious packages.
 
2012-12-31 07:16:33 PM  
With all the 1%'ers present in this thread

i.qkme.me
 
2012-12-31 07:16:44 PM  

Infernalist: Well, the new congress won't have any lame duck Tea Derpers stinking up the joint. And they'll walk in with the albatross of 'high taxes' around their necks. Not a big thing for the Democrats, but the GOP? That's a big deal for them. They're going to want to fix that and do it in a hurry. They'll want to pass a bill cutting taxes for everyone, basically try to reinstate the Bush Tax Cuts, but the Senate and the President won't allow it. The Democrats 'will' try repeatedly to pass bills cutting taxes for those making under 250k, but will anticipate the GOP trying to attach riders. Expect lots of press conferences and youtube speeches from the President harassing the GOP about holding 'middle america' hostage to the desire to cut taxes for the wealthy.

For the love of god, I'm not even a politician and I'm fully aware of what they've got in store for the GOP.


True, they lost some, but they will also have a bunch of newly-elected Tea Partiers to continue the DERP. Best case scenario I can see is that nothing changes for the next two years.
 
2012-12-31 07:16:46 PM  

Chameleon: GAT_00: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because it's going to end unemployment benefits for millions, it's going to cut payments to doctors for Medicare, which might cause doctors to drop patients, and while a few bucks might not be much to you, to people who don't have any excess from payday to payday it does matter.

It's also going to slash the NIH budget by nearly 10%, which means that funding for basic biomedical research is going to be ass. Hope you didn't need that cure for cancer!

/it's really going to suck


Yeah, that is what worries me the most.  Private sector has eviscerated R&D relying on buying up and licensing IP from Universities.  The Univ. research rely on almost solely on grants from the government.  If you thought being an academic PhD was tough now, it is about to get a whole lot worse if the cuts stay.
 
2012-12-31 07:16:58 PM  

Xetal: So the Republican talking point now is that "Obama said mean things so we're not going to vote to do what is best for the country"?

That seems pretty pathetic, really.


But, but butt hurt!
 
2012-12-31 07:17:00 PM  
Huh, never knew we had so many billionaires on fark.
 
2012-12-31 07:17:09 PM  

Kome: heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.

Who would use a Bachmann based measurement? That's just retarded.


it would get tedious to have everything measured in terms of MilliBachmanns.
 
2012-12-31 07:17:21 PM  

Miss Stein: And don't come crying to us when you're voted out in '14.
Remember what you've done.


You mean the socialists in Congress? Of course they shouldn't be crying. This is exactly what they've done.
 
2012-12-31 07:17:29 PM  

heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.


Bachmann is the accepted SI unit, since it's Swiss.
 
2012-12-31 07:17:43 PM  

Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.


Counterpoint: The rich required the benefits of this society to become rich. Their businesses are built on it and the laws of this society are what stop roving groups of heavily armed people from taking their riches.
 
2012-12-31 07:17:56 PM  
Good. Over the cliff we go.
 
2012-12-31 07:18:01 PM  
Way to fail again, American legislative branches, specifically the House of Representatives.

When do you think the last chink in the armor will break it, aka the American Armor? Next time?

Grow up, and pass something to get us through the New Year, jackhats.

Do it,  now.
 
2012-12-31 07:18:15 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Can one of you people buy me a Lamborghini?

/Nah, I'm not really that tacky. :)
//Glad I moved out of equities at the end of the day. Staying put until the market sorts this out. Got burned hard last time they played with the debt ceiling.


Do you know if any of this cliff nonsense has impact on retirement accounts? Mine are mostly in bonds.

If I lose it, it's not a huge deal. Just forgot to do something with it after I left my last job.
 
2012-12-31 07:18:19 PM  
Geez. Is it time for the Republican National Anthem again?
 
2012-12-31 07:19:18 PM  

Funk Brothers: The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.


Actually, studies show that most of the self-made rich support a tax hike. It's only the inherited rich that are against it. And since they've never actually earned anything on their own merits, I don't see why anyone should listen to them.

/trolling is fun
 
2012-12-31 07:19:31 PM  
Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.
 
2012-12-31 07:20:10 PM  

ThreeEdgedSword: This is the point when the Marines based near by and surround the capital building and not them out until they have actually come to a decision. What they are are doing is tantamount to treason. It would be a dangerous precedent to set, but, we could use an praetorian guard every now and again.


Better than treason trials, I suppose... ( Although, that's a pretty efficient & brutal way to raise revenue...)

/ likes Roman history
 
2012-12-31 07:21:39 PM  

Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.


You know how I know that you're bad at math?
 
2012-12-31 07:22:06 PM  

angrymacface: Infernalist: Well, the new congress won't have any lame duck Tea Derpers stinking up the joint. And they'll walk in with the albatross of 'high taxes' around their necks. Not a big thing for the Democrats, but the GOP? That's a big deal for them. They're going to want to fix that and do it in a hurry. They'll want to pass a bill cutting taxes for everyone, basically try to reinstate the Bush Tax Cuts, but the Senate and the President won't allow it. The Democrats 'will' try repeatedly to pass bills cutting taxes for those making under 250k, but will anticipate the GOP trying to attach riders. Expect lots of press conferences and youtube speeches from the President harassing the GOP about holding 'middle america' hostage to the desire to cut taxes for the wealthy.

For the love of god, I'm not even a politician and I'm fully aware of what they've got in store for the GOP.

True, they lost some, but they will also have a bunch of newly-elected Tea Partiers to continue the DERP. Best case scenario I can see is that nothing changes for the next two years.


They 'lost' seats in the House. A number of Tea Derpers were defeated and replaced with liberal Dems, not Blue Dogs. The Blue Dogs number less than 15 now. They're a political irrelevancy now. The Derpers number at just over 50 now, and they have a solid number of 'almost Derpers' in the establishment category. The true number of Establishment moderate GOP in the House is probably somewhere around 100 in total. The Democrats will find it much easier to find GOPers to jump ship and vote for their bills than you imagine.

As for nothing happening, that's a 'worst-case' scenario, not a best case. Best case is the sane remnants of the GOP work with the Dems to sane bills and end up ostracizing the Tea Derpers. Considering the in-fighting going on with the Tea Derpers, do you think they're going to be hunky-dory bestest buddies with the Establishment GOP after the New Year?
 
2012-12-31 07:22:15 PM  
Okay...This is how I heard it. I'm sure you folks will jump on any inaccuracies here....

The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.
Obama said 'Nope. Gotta increase the taxes on everybody making 400-something thousand a year and up.'
Reps said 'No. Taxing the people who make a million or more will be plenty'.
Obama said 'No. If you don't go along with what I said, we'll just have to increase everybody's taxes across the board'.
Reps replied 'yeah. no. There's no need to do that'.
Obama replied 'fine, I'll tax the fark out of everybody, you unreasonable pricks'
 
2012-12-31 07:22:20 PM  

Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Dude.."Atlas Shrugged" was fiction. Seriously.
 
2012-12-31 07:22:29 PM  

Shades: Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.


Exactly. What we need to do is pull all government spending out and watch the economy wither so that the goverment's books are balanced.
 
2012-12-31 07:22:56 PM  

Mrbogey: Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.

Compromise can not work when the fundamental issue has no compromise. The Democrats don't want any entitlement reform. The Republicans want something as far as entitlement reform. Congrats, you won the election but the Republicans still have a base they need to represent.


There's been plenty of entitlement reform in the past 3 years.  Obamacare had significant reforms to Medicare and Medicaid. Sure, we could use more entitlement reform though. Like reforming those farm subsidies for vacation ranches in Colorado and Montana, The gigantic tax breaks for Exron, Defense Spending...

Sadly, the only entitlement reform republicans seem willing to accept is the killing off of SS, Food Stamps, WIC and the like....when they reference drowning government in a bath tub, this is what they actually mean.
 
2012-12-31 07:23:47 PM  
That's OK. All my house ever says is GET OUT.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:23:50 PM  
costumespecialists.com
 
2012-12-31 07:24:06 PM  

Coastalgrl: Do you know if any of this cliff nonsense has impact on retirement accounts? Mine are mostly in bonds.

If I lose it, it's not a huge deal. Just forgot to do something with it after I left my last job.


I have no idea. They are promising to come to a deal, but until they do, those are just words. They really screwed me when almost the exact thing played out last summer. They had to work something out or we were going to get a credit downgrade... Well, they f*cked that up and the market reacted violently. We'll probably know at the end of the week. If you are in bonds, you're probably fine through all this. I went to bonds myself to just wait this out. I don't have much, but it's a significant amount to me, and I'm not trusting them to do the right thing this time.
 
2012-12-31 07:24:06 PM  

ariseatex: FTA: That combative talk drew anger from Republican senators who have been grappling for a deal with the Democratic majority in that chamber. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the president's comments "very unbecoming of where we are at this moment" and added, "My heart's still pounding."

"I know the president has fun heckling Congress," Corker said. "I think he lost probably numbers of votes with what he did."

[img151.imageshack.us image 276x273]
I heard the speech twice. There was NOTHING "heckling" in there.


What are you smoking? Yes there was. The entire speech was a heckle. He was black the ENTIRE TIME. Totally offensive to the Republican party.
 
2012-12-31 07:24:08 PM  

t2.gstatic.com
Get Back to Work!

 
2012-12-31 07:24:17 PM  

X-boxershorts: Mrbogey: Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.

Compromise can not work when the fundamental issue has no compromise. The Democrats don't want any entitlement reform. The Republicans want something as far as entitlement reform. Congrats, you won the election but the Republicans still have a base they need to represent.

There's been plenty of entitlement reform in the past 3 years.  Obamacare had significant reforms to Medicare and Medicaid. Sure, we could use more entitlement reform though. Like reforming those farm subsidies for vacation ranches in Colorado and Montana, The gigantic tax breaks for Exron, Defense Spending...

Sadly, the only entitlement reform republicans seem willing to accept is the killing off of SS, Food Stamps, WIC and the like....when they reference drowning government in a bath tub, this is what they actually mean.


Well, we are a totally free market system.

/not
 
2012-12-31 07:24:24 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-31 07:24:42 PM  

AaronSynn: Okay...This is how I heard it. I'm sure you folks will jump on any inaccuracies here....

The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.
Obama said 'Nope. Gotta increase the taxes on everybody making 400-something thousand a year and up.'
Reps said 'No. Taxing the people who make a million or more will be plenty'.
Obama said 'No. If you don't go along with what I said, we'll just have to increase everybody's taxes across the board'.
Reps replied 'yeah. no. There's no need to do that'.
Obama replied 'fine, I'll tax the fark out of everybody, you unreasonable pricks'


Yeah, pretty much. It's called 'negotiating from a position of strength'. It's what winners do.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:24:43 PM  
thefilmist.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-31 07:24:52 PM  

Xetal: Counterpoint: The rich required the benefits of this society to become rich. Their businesses are built on it and the laws of this society are what stop roving groups of heavily armed people from taking their riches.


I dunno, sedentary groups of heavily armed people are debating right now how much they should take. So what's the difference?
 
2012-12-31 07:25:00 PM  

cig-mkr: CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.

And you don't worry about the tax on dividends? Going up from 15% to ~ 43% because they are calling it regular income.


If dividends are a significant part of your income, they *are* "regular income"....
 
2012-12-31 07:25:08 PM  
i1134.photobucket.com

Just a reminder.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:08 PM  
A pound of flesh here, a pound of flesh there.

Enjoy your meal.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:20 PM  
Of course the House is talking.

So. America. Why shouldn't I just kill you now?
 
2012-12-31 07:25:40 PM  
There are sure a lot of 1%ers in this thread... Might want to re-evaluate that, it's more likely the people you are indebted to.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:43 PM  

Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?


Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.
 
2012-12-31 07:25:50 PM  

zappaisfrank: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?
Dude.."Atlas Shrugged" was fiction. Seriously.


Atlas Shrugged was not a manual, it was a warning. Ayn Rand knew that we would have an energy shortage before the Hubbert theory became popular and well known in society.
 
2012-12-31 07:26:13 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.


If you're in the top 1% (income-wise) and haven't bothered to save substantial assets that would generate qualified dividends and long-term capital-gains (both taxed at 0-15% under the Bush tax cuts, normal income rates over the cliff), I'd say you've farked up, but I guess I've seen a lot of MDs finances that look like that.
 
2012-12-31 07:26:19 PM  

AaronSynn: The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.


False. This was Boehner's plan B. It couldn't pass the House.
 
2012-12-31 07:27:00 PM  
Welcome to the House of Dumb.
 
2012-12-31 07:27:01 PM  

Orange-Pippin: [i.imgur.com image 630x466]


The Tax Pledge is debunked. Grow up.

That means doing your fair share, young man...
 
2012-12-31 07:28:04 PM  

On Again: [i1134.photobucket.com image 850x637]

Just a reminder.


I'm not one of them, jackhat.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:14 PM  
That's it. I've had enough of this bullshiat. Seal the doors. Nail them shut. Toss in some vending machine snacks and a Keurig. They can piss in the corners and shiat in a trash can.

Nobody. Farking. Leaves. Until. They. Figure. This. Out.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:16 PM  

Funk Brothers: The Kingdom of Hawaii was ruled by a Monarchy/Dictator.


I realize I'm taking the bait, but the Kingdom of Hawaii operated as a constitutional monarchy from 1840 onwards.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:18 PM  

Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.


Choose all that apply:

a) credits and debits
b) cuts and revenue
c) deficit spending
d) supply-side economics
 
2012-12-31 07:28:32 PM  

Xetal: Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.

Counterpoint: The rich required the benefits of this society to become rich. Their businesses are built on it and the laws of this society are what stop roving groups of heavily armed people from taking their riches.


Which is why they already carry a higher tax burden. It just isn't enough by your standards and doesn't even come close to fixing any if the actual problems.

But keep acting like it's the magic bullet that will solve all our fiscal problems because "evil rich"!

\doesn't care if rich people pay higher taxes.
\\does care about reduced spending across the board.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:39 PM  

Kome: heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.

Who would use a Bachmann based measurement? That's just retarded.




The Palin measurement is a measure of stupidity. The Bachmann measurement measures crazy.
 
2012-12-31 07:28:44 PM  

namegoeshere: That's it. I've had enough of this bullshiat. Seal the doors. Nail them shut. Toss in some vending machine snacks and a Keurig. They can piss in the corners and shiat in a trash can.

Nobody. Farking. Leaves. Until. They. Figure. This. Out.


We're better off going off the cliff.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:29:05 PM  
991.com
 
2012-12-31 07:29:20 PM  

Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.


That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.
 
2012-12-31 07:30:22 PM  
Fu.k him where trying to save your ass from the taxacrats
 
2012-12-31 07:30:35 PM  
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?
 
2012-12-31 07:30:41 PM  

Infernalist: namegoeshere: That's it. I've had enough of this bullshiat. Seal the doors. Nail them shut. Toss in some vending machine snacks and a Keurig. They can piss in the corners and shiat in a trash can.

Nobody. Farking. Leaves. Until. They. Figure. This. Out.

We're better off going off the cliff.


If we set up some web cams in there, we could probably make a buck or two off the footage.
 
2012-12-31 07:31:06 PM  
Well of course. I mean, why would you want to do anything to help people, House, when there's so many political points to score? Gotta be sure you can blah blah blah or yackity schmakity in your TV ads in 2 years. Farking worthless skin flecks of humanity.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:31:25 PM  
www.derbydeadpool.co.uk
 
2012-12-31 07:31:35 PM  

Peaceboy: Well, I ain't losin' sleep.  And I ain't countin' sheep.


R. VanWinkle
 
2012-12-31 07:32:11 PM  

BronyMedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?


That was different. They literally shut the government down. That's not what this is.
 
2012-12-31 07:32:11 PM  

BronyMedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?


Roughly. They shut down the government for some stupid reason or another and tried to blame Clinton for it. The public, showing remarkable ability to ignore their lies, blamed the GOP instead.
 
2012-12-31 07:32:12 PM  

Indubitably: The Tax Pledge is debunked. Grow up.


It's really more like a set of guidelines.

I will say this... the Tea Party has proven OWS wrong on one count... you can really destabilize a country from within!
 
2012-12-31 07:32:21 PM  
Hes never held a job so the only why he knows how to get money is opm what a fu..king loser
 
2012-12-31 07:32:25 PM  

jaybeezey: Xetal: Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.

Counterpoint: The rich required the benefits of this society to become rich. Their businesses are built on it and the laws of this society are what stop roving groups of heavily armed people from taking their riches.

Which is why they already carry a higher tax burden. It just isn't enough by your standards and doesn't even come close to fixing any if the actual problems.

But keep acting like it's the magic bullet that will solve all our fiscal problems because "evil rich"!

\doesn't care if rich people pay higher taxes.
\\does care about reduced spending across the board.


How much of a higher tax burden is reasonable is the question.

There were times in our history where they carried a much higher tax burden than they do now. It wasn't tyranny then, and still isn't now.

Paying 20% of your income (taxed as capital gains) instead of 15% for the ultrarich seems pretty silly when people making significantly less are paying more because it is taxed as income...
 
2012-12-31 07:33:36 PM  

sweet jeez: Hes never held a job so the only why he knows how to get money is opm what a fu..king loser


Have respect for John Boehner. After all, he is the Speaker of the House.
 
2012-12-31 07:33:40 PM  

Funk Brothers: hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!

Obama asked for a tax increase. The CBO didn't recommended it.

Compromising is basically losing. I approve of Republican's civil disobedience as this is the highest American tradition is to resist. Eventually we'll get what we want.


You have a better idea for getting the money for paying off the country's debt? You have alternate means of the government getting the money for doing what it's supposed to do? Why do you hate contributing to living in a civilized country?
 
2012-12-31 07:33:46 PM  

Infernalist: BronyMedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?

Roughly. They shut down the government for some stupid reason or another and tried to blame Clinton for it. The public, showing remarkable ability to ignore their lies, blamed the GOP instead.


Newt Gingrich shut it down because Clinton snubbed him on AF1. We're dealing with a house that is even less rational than that.

Scary.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:34:21 PM  
blacksnob.com
 
2012-12-31 07:34:50 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: I just got a job that pays $90k/year. Can someone tell me if I'm better off quitting and moving to a shack in the forest? I have a couple of pages written for my manifesto, and at least 10 more in outline form. My hair's a little thin on top, but I can grow a wicked crazy beard if I commit to it.


Well, with the game the GOP is playing, you might simply be sent back to the unemployment line. So, I wouldn't jump the gun on the wingnut recluse thing. Just wait for the GOP to tank the economy again and decider it for you.
 
2012-12-31 07:34:56 PM  
So, what's going to happen if we go over the "cliff" and things get better? Will this prove to the right wingers that higher taxes on them won't shut down the economy?

If it goes either way, they are screwed. Sucks to shiat in your own bed and have to lie in it.
 
2012-12-31 07:35:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-12-31 07:35:29 PM  

Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.


This!
 
2012-12-31 07:36:15 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Coastalgrl: Do you know if any of this cliff nonsense has impact on retirement accounts? Mine are mostly in bonds.

If I lose it, it's not a huge deal. Just forgot to do something with it after I left my last job.

I have no idea. They are promising to come to a deal, but until they do, those are just words. They really screwed me when almost the exact thing played out last summer. They had to work something out or we were going to get a credit downgrade... Well, they f*cked that up and the market reacted violently. We'll probably know at the end of the week. If you are in bonds, you're probably fine through all this. I went to bonds myself to just wait this out. I don't have much, but it's a significant amount to me, and I'm not trusting them to do the right thing this time.


Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:36:41 PM  
media.comicbookmovie.com
 
2012-12-31 07:37:05 PM  

Goodfella: Have respect for John Boehner. After all, he is the Speaker of the House.


I really respect his ability to spontaneously come up with soulful songs for when the naughty children are ejected from the chocolate factory.

In other news, I'm sure jaybreezy looks awesome with that Braveheart-style facepaint, but I'm having a hard time getting motivated to pike up a pike and charge so that some Wealthy McWealthytons can pay a ridiculously low capital gains tax.
 
2012-12-31 07:37:17 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Indubitably: The Tax Pledge is debunked. Grow up.

It's really more like a set of guidelines.

I will say this... the Tea Party has proven OWS wrong on one count... you can really destabilize a country from within!


Yeah, when you have the wealth, man.

Seriously?
 
2012-12-31 07:37:32 PM  

DamnYankees: Good. Over the cliff we go.


i245.photobucket.com

This is no way to run a government.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:06 PM  
If you are rich the stock market going down because of GOP BS hurts you much much worse than paying 2% more in income tax.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:22 PM  

BronyMedic: Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Republican Party do this under the Clinton-2 Administration? And didn't it backfire miserably for them then?


Yes, they shut down the government for about a month, but it didn't really backfire on the party as a whole.  They remained in control of both houses of Congress.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:27 PM  

On Again: [i1134.photobucket.com image 850x637]

Just a reminder.


Indeed. Didn't Norquist say he wanted to drown the United States Government in a bathtub?
Patriot my eye.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:32 PM  
The GOP will finish the job the Taliban started.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:43 PM  
i21.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-31 07:38:51 PM  

Xetal: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.

That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.


Yes Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, soon France, and then Germany, and then the rest of Europe are doing just swell. Proud to be on your little "list", leech.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:59 PM  

Indubitably: The_Gallant_Gallstone: Indubitably: The Tax Pledge is debunked. Grow up.

It's really more like a set of guidelines.

I will say this... the Tea Party has proven OWS wrong on one count... you can really destabilize a country from within!

Yeah, when you have the wealth, man.

Seriously?


You are correct, sir, you can destabilize a country from within when you appropriate the appropriate resources, amirite? *)
 
2012-12-31 07:39:03 PM  

Funk Brothers: zappaisfrank: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?
Dude.."Atlas Shrugged" was fiction. Seriously.

Atlas Shrugged was not a manual, it was a warning. Ayn Rand knew that we would have an energy shortage before the Hubbert theory became popular and well known in society.


Ayn Rand was an unschooled moron who pulled her "philosophy" out of her ass to pay her bills and make a name for herself because she was a first class narcissist and loved the attention being "shocking" for her day generated.

"Atlas Shrugged" is a turgid, needlessly verbose work of fiction which glorifies selfishness, encourages narcissism and promotes an economic structure that is unsustainable for longer than a few decades. It takes place in a world that is pretend, where the author takes "creative license as plot developer" and fabricates a societal structure that never existed (and still doesn't) to the extent the story would have you believe and it used to justify the arrogance of the "producers" to move the story along. It makes for compelling fiction, I guess, but has little true reflection on what life was like when the book was written or even now. How does any "producer" amass their fortunes? Through the labor of the "lower" class they despise. The whole narrative about "makers vs. takers" derived from this fictional world and transposed on modern society is a clever, yet very transparent, positioning ploy enabled by people who very much understand human nature and how to exploit it for personal gain.

If the sexual fantasies of a frumpy, snaggletoothed sociopath manifested as a fictitious world where ruthless capitalism is an aphrodisiac and precursor to "faux rapey sex" is your cup of tea, be my guest, but don't expect me to think you're anything but a dipstick.
 
2012-12-31 07:39:42 PM  
Done in one. I'll let Kristen Stewart express my shock

static.guim.co.uk
 
2012-12-31 07:39:48 PM  

Keizer_Ghidorah: Funk Brothers: hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!

Obama asked for a tax increase. The CBO didn't recommended it.

Compromising is basically losing. I approve of Republican's civil disobedience as this is the highest American tradition is to resist. Eventually we'll get what we want.

You have a better idea for getting the money for paying off the country's debt? You have alternate means of the government getting the money for doing what it's supposed to do? Why do you hate contributing to living in a civilized country?


Get rid of the mortgage tax deduction and several other tax deduction programs. This will increase revenue without raising taxes on the wealthy. I don't think when you're trying to pay your bills and deep in debt that asking the rich should pay more in taxes.
 
2012-12-31 07:39:53 PM  

Coastalgrl: Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.


I might be wrong. If they do vote on something and resolve it, stocks might jump. So, it's all a crap shoot. Still easy to move the TSP around between the funds. You can do it on their website if you have your acct # and PW.
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:39:57 PM  
tanakamusic.com
My favorite so far.
 
2012-12-31 07:40:20 PM  

Bigdogdaddy: So, what's going to happen if we go over the "cliff" and things get better? Will this prove to the right wingers that higher taxes on them won't shut down the economy?

If it goes either way, they are screwed. Sucks to shiat in your own bed and have to lie in it.


The 10% across the broad government cuts will depress the economy. Result in millions of unemployed (increasing entitlement spending too) and lead to a shrinking government (A new recession). All of which is basic Keynsian economics.

The most amazing thing about this is republicans are acknowledging this Keynsian effect now, yet have completely rejected Keynsian economics in the face of the gravest financial crisis to hit the world in 80 years.

i.chzbgr.com
 
2012-12-31 07:40:57 PM  

Shades: Xetal: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.

That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.

Yes Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, soon France, and then Germany, and then the rest of Europe are doing just swell. Proud to be on your little "list", leech.


If you took 100 percent of the top one percent's income it would cover the Federal budget for about 60 percent of the year.
 
2012-12-31 07:41:01 PM  
wikicheats.gametrailers.com

It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.
 
2012-12-31 07:41:04 PM  

AaronSynn: Okay...This is how I heard it. I'm sure you folks will jump on any inaccuracies here....

The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.
Obama said 'Nope. Gotta increase the taxes on everybody making 400-something thousand a year and up.'
Reps said 'No. Taxing the people who make a million or more will be plenty'.
Obama said 'No. If you don't go along with what I said, we'll just have to increase everybody's taxes across the board'.
Reps replied 'yeah. no. There's no need to do that'.
Obama replied 'fine, I'll tax the fark out of everybody, you unreasonable pricks'



Nope. Obama said $250k and up. Boehner said no, $1M and up. But then he couldn't even get that to pass with his own people. So Boehner was negotiating in bad faith from the get-go. Obama then offered to come up to $400k as a show of compromise. But of course, the Teabagger House won't vote for ANY tax increases on anybody, even though taxes are at historic lows, there's a bi-partisan report proving that tax cuts for the rich don't help the economy, and the GOP is allegedly "serious" about reducing the debt. In short, Obama offered to compromise, and the GOP offered absolutely NOTHING. Fark them.
 
2012-12-31 07:41:33 PM  

Goodfella: sweet jeez: Hes never held a job so the only why he knows how to get money is opm what a fu..king loser

Have respect for John Boehner. After all, he is the Speaker of the House.


The weeping one did have a job....sweeping his pappy's bar.
 
2012-12-31 07:41:51 PM  
It's funny... If you're a congresscritter, you can go on record to any kind of media and sling all manner of insult at the president for four years... But the instant he calls them out (much more politely than I would have) they start crying like little biatches.

fark 'em. He should call them out by name.
 
2012-12-31 07:42:06 PM  

Coastalgrl: Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.


Rookie mistake... I recommend you invest in commemorative plates. Especially those with Dale Earnhardt's vehicle driving up to a heavenly version of the Twin Towers while an eagle with a single tear drop falling from its eye carries the American flag.

Indubitably: Seriously?


Seriously... you and me, man, we're farking done professionally!
 
ecl [TotalFark] [BareFark]
2012-12-31 07:43:46 PM  
www.foxnews.com
 
2012-12-31 07:43:53 PM  
Well... s**t. :-(
 
2012-12-31 07:44:07 PM  

GodsTumor: Goodfella: sweet jeez: Hes never held a job so the only why he knows how to get money is opm what a fu..king loser

Have respect for John Boehner. After all, he is the Speaker of the House.

The weeping one did have a job....sweeping his pappy's bar.


I thought he was in the custodial arts?
 
2012-12-31 07:44:46 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Can one of you people buy me a Lamborghini?


Man. I was just going to ask for a TotalFark... but you set your sights high.
 
2012-12-31 07:46:07 PM  

yukichigai: It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.


www.globalgoodgroup.com
 
2012-12-31 07:46:26 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Coastalgrl: Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.

Rookie mistake... I recommend you invest in commemorative plates. Especially those with Dale Earnhardt's vehicle driving up to a heavenly version of the Twin Towers while an eagle with a single tear drop falling from its eye carries the American flag.

Indubitably: Seriously?

Seriously... you and me, man, we're farking done professionally!


Hmmph, interesting, I never realized we were connected professionally...

Now, I do.

Speak for yourself.

As, I do.
 
2012-12-31 07:46:55 PM  
Did I get in before the smug dikheads pipe in that they are in the top% and they have enough spare income so a tax hike should not bother everyone else that might not be so fantastic?
 
2012-12-31 07:47:21 PM  
For a group of people so terrified of socialism, you'd think the Republicans would understand that their behavior is pushing the country closer to it.
 
2012-12-31 07:48:00 PM  

Brontes: Yeah, that is what worries me the most. Private sector has eviscerated R&D relying on buying up and licensing IP from Universities. The Univ. research rely on almost solely on grants from the government. If you thought being an academic PhD was tough now, it is about to get a whole lot worse if the cuts stay.


As a physics grad student, this really, really worries the hell out of me. At least I've only got two years left...

/And Nanophysics/nanotech IS a growth field!
 
2012-12-31 07:49:17 PM  

superdave386: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

This!


They would charge a service fee to piss a fire out. Right now, because it serves them, they are pissing on us for free. The Republican plebes must just love "golden showers".
 
2012-12-31 07:49:21 PM  

Fista-Phobia: yukichigai: It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.

[www.globalgoodgroup.com image 398x450]


http://admiralradley.com/sightings/photos/FNV_NCR_Flag.png
 
2012-12-31 07:49:50 PM  

ecl: [tanakamusic.com image 500x322]
My favorite so far.


A great bass player and the band wasn't the same with out him.
 
2012-12-31 07:50:41 PM  

Orange-Pippin: [i.imgur.com image 714x311]


Awesomeness.
 
2012-12-31 07:52:01 PM  
Hell yeah Republicans!

Protect my God given right to not pay my fair share of taxes when I hit the big powerball lottery some time in the future.
 
2012-12-31 07:53:56 PM  

highrye: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.

That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.

Yes Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, soon France, and then Germany, and then the rest of Europe are doing just swell. Proud to be on your little "list", leech.

If you took 100 percent of the top one percent's income it would cover the Federal budget for about 60 percent of the year.


Actually, it'd cover about one third of the deficit, which translates to a little over 20% of the budget. And it would cut states off entirely, and it would also end with nobody would bother to be in the top 1% anymore of even close. If we raised taxes strenuously, we would realistically get about 5% of the budget, at the most (or ~11% of the deficit). That leaves the overwhelming majority of the deficit to either be paid for in spending cuts or we just keep borrowing money until people don't want to lend us money anymore (Greece). We cannot tax our way out of this mess. We have to raise the Social Security age and drastically slash benefits. It needs to no longer be economically-viable to be on the dole. It will be that way anyway, the only options are we can do it now, when there's time to cushion the blow, or we can do it later, when reality takes a brick to our collective faces (Greece again).
 
2012-12-31 07:54:45 PM  
They just aren't going to vote on it tonight so they don't have to say the voted for a tax increase. They can just vote at noon the next day
 
2012-12-31 07:55:47 PM  

Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.



Uhh, no. Wealth doesn't magically appear. Workers created the wealth for the 1%. In reality, the working class pulled the rich up by their bootstraps. No labor, you guys get nothing. End of story.
 
2012-12-31 07:55:58 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: They just aren't going to vote on it tonight so they don't have to say the voted for a tax increase. They can just vote at noon the next day


Word. On this note, I'm off to get drunk. Happy New Year!!!
 
2012-12-31 07:57:15 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Coastalgrl: Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.

I might be wrong. If they do vote on something and resolve it, stocks might jump. So, it's all a crap shoot. Still easy to move the TSP around between the funds. You can do it on their website if you have your acct # and PW.


Yeah it's a TSP account. It's a crazy story but ended up peacing out to do a phd. Still on good terms but needed to come out of the system to do so. Makes life easier
 
2012-12-31 07:57:52 PM  

www.khalsanews.org
And one thing we can count on with respect to this Congress is that if there is even one second left before you have to do what you're supposed to do, they will use that last second."

fitsnews.com
I called this press conference to say that I know the president has fun heckling Congress, he sent a message of confrontation to Republicans. People have to wonder whether the president really wants issue resolved. Also, I do believe I'm getting the vapors.

>4.bp.blogspot.com
I say it here, it comes out there.

 
2012-12-31 07:58:11 PM  
I laugh my ass off every time a republican says obamas actions cost him the votes of republicans.

Cant lose what you aint got, cant spend what you never had

Hed get better returns on seeking the unicorn vote
 
2012-12-31 07:58:12 PM  
I'm trying to imagine the House GOP's thought process on this one.

"Hey, did you guys hear the President's press conference?  He basically called us douchebags.  haha, boy, did he screw up on that one!  That will never fly with the American people!  I suggest we go home for the night and blame everything on Obama tomorrow."
 
2012-12-31 08:00:22 PM  
It's laudable to see politicians try to limit taxes. Taxes are a necessary evil. However, Grover Norquist never tried to get politicians to sign a pledge limiting spending. So the politicians just borrowed and spent without raising taxes. Devious.

If Grover suggested controlling spending, he would have been laughed out of DC. Spending is how politicians exercise power.
 
2012-12-31 08:02:48 PM  

Mentat: I'm trying to imagine the House GOP's thought process on this one.

"Hey, did you guys hear the President's press conference?  He basically called us douchebags.  haha, boy, did he screw up on that one!  That will never fly with the American people!  I suggest we go home for the night and blame everything on Obama tomorrow."


They are so fyuked for their intransigence.
 
2012-12-31 08:04:17 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: They just aren't going to vote on it tonight so they don't have to say the voted for a tax increase. They can just vote at noon the next day


We need to set up a mechanism that shocks each one of them in the nuts when they later tout how they voted to decrease taxes on the middle class in 2013.
 
2012-12-31 08:04:59 PM  

Coastalgrl: NewportBarGuy: Coastalgrl: Do you know if any of this cliff nonsense has impact on retirement accounts? Mine are mostly in bonds.

If I lose it, it's not a huge deal. Just forgot to do something with it after I left my last job.

I have no idea. They are promising to come to a deal, but until they do, those are just words. They really screwed me when almost the exact thing played out last summer. They had to work something out or we were going to get a credit downgrade... Well, they f*cked that up and the market reacted violently. We'll probably know at the end of the week. If you are in bonds, you're probably fine through all this. I went to bonds myself to just wait this out. I don't have much, but it's a significant amount to me, and I'm not trusting them to do the right thing this time.

Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.


How soon do you plan to retire? If it's not going to be any time soon, you can probably ride it out without moving your investment to bonds. Furthermore, if you can afford to put money into the stock market after it nosedives due to going off the cliff, you'll probably get a better ROI since the stock will most likely be undervalued at the time of purchase.

/looking to retire in ~40 years
//still mostly invested in growth stocks
 
2012-12-31 08:06:52 PM  

anfrind: Coastalgrl: NewportBarGuy: Coastalgrl: Do you know if any of this cliff nonsense has impact on retirement accounts? Mine are mostly in bonds.

If I lose it, it's not a huge deal. Just forgot to do something with it after I left my last job.

I have no idea. They are promising to come to a deal, but until they do, those are just words. They really screwed me when almost the exact thing played out last summer. They had to work something out or we were going to get a credit downgrade... Well, they f*cked that up and the market reacted violently. We'll probably know at the end of the week. If you are in bonds, you're probably fine through all this. I went to bonds myself to just wait this out. I don't have much, but it's a significant amount to me, and I'm not trusting them to do the right thing this time.

Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.

How soon do you plan to retire? If it's not going to be any time soon, you can probably ride it out without moving your investment to bonds. Furthermore, if you can afford to put money into the stock market after it nosedives due to going off the cliff, you'll probably get a better ROI since the stock will most likely be undervalued at the time of purchase.

/looking to retire in ~40 years
//still mostly invested in growth stocks


///Keep up the intransigence, and you will see  zero growth in yer whatsits.
 
2012-12-31 08:11:24 PM  

GAT_00: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because it's going to end unemployment benefits for millions, it's going to cut payments to doctors for Medicare, which might cause doctors to drop patients, and while a few bucks might not be much to you, to people who don't have any excess from payday to payday it does matter.


When in danger or in doubt,
run in circles, scream and shout.
 
2012-12-31 08:11:35 PM  

Funk Brothers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Funk Brothers: hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!

Obama asked for a tax increase. The CBO didn't recommended it.

Compromising is basically losing. I approve of Republican's civil disobedience as this is the highest American tradition is to resist. Eventually we'll get what we want.

You have a better idea for getting the money for paying off the country's debt? You have alternate means of the government getting the money for doing what it's supposed to do? Why do you hate contributing to living in a civilized country?

Get rid of the mortgage tax deduction and several other tax deduction programs. This will increase revenue without raising taxes on the wealthy. I don't think when you're trying to pay your bills and deep in debt that asking the rich should pay more in taxes.


They can afford to pay their fair share of taxes, thank you. Making life harder for the middle class and poor will not solve anything.

Of course, slashing the defense spending will save us a ton of money as well. Unfortunately, Republicans are as adamant about not doing that as they are about protecting the poor picked-on about-to-turn-into-paupers rich people, so we can't really rely on them to come up with anything helpful or meaningful.
 
2012-12-31 08:11:38 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?


Um... your Social Security tax just went up 2% of your take home.  $20/w x 52 weeks = $1040 a year.  So you're saying 1040 is 2% of your pay?  That would mean you make ~$52,000 a year.  1%er?  heh.

Must suck to make so little.
 
2012-12-31 08:11:38 PM  
: My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams. This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called "Max". To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time. When the world was powered by the black fuel. And the desert sprouted great cities of pipe and steel. Gone now, swept away. For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all. Without fuel, they were nothing. They built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped. Their leaders talked and talked and talked. But nothing could stem the avalanche. Their world crumbled. The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men. On the roads it was a white line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice. And in this maelstrom of decay, ordinary men were battered and smashed. Men like Max. The warrior Max. In the roar of an engine, he lost everything. And became a shell of a man, a burnt out, desolate man, a man haunted by the demons of his past, a man who wandered out into the wasteland. And it was here, in this blighted place, that he learned to live again...
 
2012-12-31 08:12:01 PM  
they've got another think coming

Who the hell wrote this?

i295.photobucket.com
 
2012-12-31 08:13:45 PM  
And thats what republicans have got...NOTHING!

Surprise , Surprise!
 
2012-12-31 08:15:52 PM  

Cubs300: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

I'll put it in simple numbers. Tax a millionaire an extra 5% and he loses $50,000 to the government . . . .


Tax a millionaire $50,000 and $50,000 disappears from someone who knows how to make millions of dollars and goes to a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians who only know how to buy votes, protect their turf and waste money in ways that would boggle the mind of most honest people.  That money's gone, and if it creates a job or otherwise sustains or nourishes a human being, it will be completely by accident.

If you let the rich keep their money, they will use that money to make more money. If you give that money to poor people, they will use that money to make more poor people.

And that's just the pragmatic argument.  We're not even getting into the moral problem of any group of people taking $50,000 from anyone just because they think they will spend it more intelligently and morally than the  victim taxpayer.

Seriously, just WTF is wrong with you people!  At least when religious zealots try to control people and their property through laws, they've got a voice in their head or a 2000 year old book telling them to do it.  Libtard socialists don't even have that.  All you have to promote your ideas---ideas which have failed every single farking time they've been tried in every modern civilized country--are some vague notions of social justice to gloss over what any honest, rational person would recognize as motives based in envy and misanthropy.
 
2012-12-31 08:16:07 PM  
Does this mean the Democrats won't get their welfare checks?
 
2012-12-31 08:16:25 PM  

Xetal: So the Republican talking point now is that "Obama said mean things so we're not going to vote to do what is best for the country"?

That seems pretty pathetic, really.


You weren't around for the debt ceiling crisis, were you.

AaronSynn: Okay...This is how I heard it. I'm sure you folks will jump on any inaccuracies here....

The Republicans said "ZOMG ZOMG THERE IS A FISCAL CLIFF!!!!111!!!eleventy!"
Obama and the public said "...What? No there isn't..."
The Republicans said "ZOMG  YES THERE IS AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN IT  TAXES WILL GO UP"
Obama said "...Well, okay, we were scheduled to look at this anyway, so let's talk."

The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.
Obama said 'Nope. Gotta increase the taxes on everybody making 400-something thousand a year and up.'
Reps said 'No. Taxing the people who make a million or more will be plenty'.
Obama said 'No. If you don't go along with what I said, we'll just have to increase everybody's taxes across the board'.
Reps replied 'yeah. no. There's no need to do that'.
Obama replied 'fine, I'll tax the fark out of everybody, you unreasonable pricks'


FTFY.

/Pretty much what happened
//This is not actually an emergency except for the unemployment\Medicare cuts.
 
2012-12-31 08:18:25 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Does this mean the Democrats won't get their welfare checks?


Naw, it means you can start digging that fauxhole in yor backyard.
 
2012-12-31 08:18:59 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Does this mean the Democrats won't get their welfare checks?


Study the post above yours (from TheAbstractor) for some good troll guidance.

You could have at least called them "DemonCraps" "DemocRats" or the "Democrat Party".

5.40/10

TheAbstractor: At least when religious zealots try to control people and their property through laws, they've got a voice in their head or a 2000 year old book telling them to do it. Libtard socialists don't even have that


You'll get some good ones with that.... 8.35/10
 
2012-12-31 08:19:44 PM  

WTFDYW: GAT_00: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because it's going to end unemployment benefits for millions, it's going to cut payments to doctors for Medicare, which might cause doctors to drop patients, and while a few bucks might not be much to you, to people who don't have any excess from payday to payday it does matter.

THIS. This shiat just pisses me off. I just want to know what Mrs. WTFDYW and me know what to look for when we file taxes.


Thirded.

Idiot scum sucking good for nothing lawyers manufactured this "crisis" for their own political gain. As a result they've basically screwed EVERYONE.
 
2012-12-31 08:20:12 PM  

Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.


weblogs.sun-sentinel.com
/damn leeches
 
2012-12-31 08:20:49 PM  

KrispyKritter: : My life fades. The vision dims. All that remains are memories. I remember a time of chaos. Ruined dreams. This wasted land. But most of all, I remember The Road Warrior. The man we called "Max". To understand who he was, you have to go back to another time. When the world was powered by the black fuel. And the desert sprouted great cities of pipe and steel. Gone now, swept away. For reasons long forgotten, two mighty warrior tribes went to war and touched off a blaze which engulfed them all. Without fuel, they were nothing. They built a house of straw. The thundering machines sputtered and stopped. Their leaders talked and talked and talked. But nothing could stem the avalanche. Their world crumbled. The cities exploded. A whirlwind of looting, a firestorm of fear. Men began to feed on men. On the roads it was a white line nightmare. Only those mobile enough to scavenge, brutal enough to pillage would survive. The gangs took over the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice. And in this maelstrom of decay, ordinary men were battered and smashed. Men like Max. The warrior Max. In the roar of an engine, he lost everything. And became a shell of a man, a burnt out, desolate man, a man haunted by the demons of his past, a man who wandered out into the wasteland. And it was here, in this blighted place, that he learned to live again...


And it was in this place, while learning to live again, he created a space in and against the madness of their shared space that thrived on living and loving  everyone. However, he often needed to use a shotgun, of sorts...

To Max, he called it.

And they shot. But it was never as clean as when they were defending people in their homes...

They fought  hard.

*)
 
2012-12-31 08:20:52 PM  

TheAbstractor: Tax a millionaire $50,000 and $50,000 disappears from someone who knows how to make millions of dollars and goes to a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians who only know how to buy votes, protect their turf and waste money in ways that would boggle the mind of most honest people.  That money's gone, and if it creates a job or otherwise sustains or nourishes a human being, it will be completely by accident.


Yeah, it just vanishes up in smoke.

If you let the rich keep their money, they will use that money to make more money. If you give that money to poor people, they will use that money to make more poor people.

Actually, if you give money to poor people, they will use that money to make FEWER people, poor or otherwise. It's one of the rather neat tendencies of humans- the more poor they are, the more kids they have.


Obama ran on taking fifty grand from people making a million bucks. He won. Elections have consequences.

And really, that's all the defense I need.
 
2012-12-31 08:21:29 PM  
Fark Independents crudded up this thread in a hurry.
 
2012-12-31 08:23:38 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Fark Independents crudded up this thread in a hurry.

To Crudit

 
2012-12-31 08:25:03 PM  
Funk Brothers Obama is ruining this country. Haven't you seen all the warning signs? Obama was born on the Kingdom of Hawaii. The Kingdom of Hawaii was ruled by a Monarchy/Dictator. This tax increase on the rich is leading us towards the road to dictatorship under Obama and towards a unprecedented third term.


That's it-- no more crack for you. Seriously. When you've had a chance to detox, come back and read what you wrote above. If you're not completely embarassed by it, well, I guess it's true: you can't fix stupid..
 
2012-12-31 08:25:03 PM  

Infernalist: AaronSynn: Okay...This is how I heard it. I'm sure you folks will jump on any inaccuracies here....

The Republicans said 'Fine, we'll compromise. You can increase the taxes for everybody who makes more than a million a year'.
Obama said 'Nope. Gotta increase the taxes on everybody making 400-something thousand a year and up.'
Reps said 'No. Taxing the people who make a million or more will be plenty'.
Obama said 'No. If you don't go along with what I said, we'll just have to increase everybody's taxes across the board'.
Reps replied 'yeah. no. There's no need to do that'.
Obama replied 'fine, I'll tax the fark out of everybody, you unreasonable pricks'

Yeah, pretty much. It's called 'negotiating from a position of strength'. It's what winners do.


It's all good. It was a bush tax cut for the wealthy, on the backs of the poor, so getting rid of it should just cut everyone's taxes and raise them on rich cats......
 
2012-12-31 08:25:27 PM  

Funk Brothers: Keizer_Ghidorah: Funk Brothers: hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!

Obama asked for a tax increase. The CBO didn't recommended it.

Compromising is basically losing. I approve of Republican's civil disobedience as this is the highest American tradition is to resist. Eventually we'll get what we want.

You have a better idea for getting the money for paying off the country's debt? You have alternate means of the government getting the money for doing what it's supposed to do? Why do you hate contributing to living in a civilized country?

Get rid of the mortgage tax deduction and several other tax deduction programs. This will increase revenue without raising taxes on the wealthy. I don't think when you're trying to pay your bills and deep in debt that asking the rich should pay more in taxes.



You should have read the book with the orcs instead. It would have left you with a much better grip on reality.
 
2012-12-31 08:26:32 PM  

Orange-Pippin: [i.imgur.com image 630x466]


That would be so much funnier if it wasn't so true.
 
2012-12-31 08:27:18 PM  
Is that a promise?!

RTFA

Meh, fark you, subs.
 
2012-12-31 08:30:36 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.


Aye, the ones hurt the worst are the ones actually hit by the payroll tax jumping from 4.2 percent to 6.2 percent... for all the talk of how a 4 percent tax hike would screw the wealthy and destroy jobs, nobody gives a damn about jacking up the taxes on the poor... it isn't even part of the conversation.
 
2012-12-31 08:33:00 PM  

anfrind: Coastalgrl: NewportBarGuy: Coastalgrl: Do you know if any of this cliff nonsense has impact on retirement accounts? Mine are mostly in bonds.

If I lose it, it's not a huge deal. Just forgot to do something with it after I left my last job.

I have no idea. They are promising to come to a deal, but until they do, those are just words. They really screwed me when almost the exact thing played out last summer. They had to work something out or we were going to get a credit downgrade... Well, they f*cked that up and the market reacted violently. We'll probably know at the end of the week. If you are in bonds, you're probably fine through all this. I went to bonds myself to just wait this out. I don't have much, but it's a significant amount to me, and I'm not trusting them to do the right thing this time.

Thanks for the heads up. I've been meaning to do something with it since I left federal service for school. I might want to return so I'll keep my account with them but all it takes is a phone call to dump the small percentage in stocks into bonds.

How soon do you plan to retire? If it's not going to be any time soon, you can probably ride it out without moving your investment to bonds. Furthermore, if you can afford to put money into the stock market after it nosedives due to going off the cliff, you'll probably get a better ROI since the stock will most likely be undervalued at the time of purchase.

/looking to retire in ~40 years
//still mostly invested in growth stocks


Im also looking at a 34 to 40 year timeframe.

I've lined up some potential stocks that I'm looking at but I don't have the income anymore to play roulette with my nest egg. But I know I need to make some smart investments if i want to be comfortable in the long term.
 
2012-12-31 08:34:13 PM  

Indubitably: Uranus Is Huge!: Fark Independents crudded up this thread in a hurry.

To Crudit


Crud/cred, you gotta admit that's debatable, no, jackhat?
 
2012-12-31 08:34:23 PM  
I will be very interested to see how LITTLE the Richpublicans actually have to give up in the final deal, and how MUCH they'll whine about even THAT amount. Selfish clowns. They actually believe the Tea Party line.

But hey, as long as they can send their kiddies to their Christian academies, they couldn't care less about what happens to public education.
And as long as they can drive their monster SUVs, they couldn't care less about the crumbling roads that stay pot-holed because there's nothing in the public treasury that will get them fixed.

"Boo-hoo, the president that poor people voted for was mean to the Congress that we rich people voted for!"
 
2012-12-31 08:35:10 PM  

cig-mkr: CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.

And you don't worry about the tax on dividends? Going up from 15% to ~ 43% because they are calling it regular income.


You are a farking idiot.
 
2012-12-31 08:35:58 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: I will be very interested to see how LITTLE the Richpublicans actually have to give up in the final deal, and how MUCH they'll whine about even THAT amount. Selfish clowns. They actually believe the Tea Party line.

But hey, as long as they can send their kiddies to their Christian academies, they couldn't care less about what happens to public education.
And as long as they can drive their monster SUVs, they couldn't care less about the crumbling roads that stay pot-holed because there's nothing in the public treasury that will get them fixed.

"Boo-hoo, the president that poor people voted for was mean to the Congress that we rich people voted for!"

To whine

 
2012-12-31 08:36:28 PM  

Mentat: I'm trying to imagine the House GOP's thought process on this one.
"Hey, did you guys hear the President's press conference?  He basically called us douchebags.  haha, boy, did he screw up on that one!  That will never fly with the American people!  I suggest we go home for the night and blame everything on Obama tomorrow."


I thought it was funny as hell. The NPR guy said maybe it wasn't "appropriate" for Obama to act like that.
 
2012-12-31 08:37:33 PM  

cryinoutloud: Mentat: I'm trying to imagine the House GOP's thought process on this one.
"Hey, did you guys hear the President's press conference?  He basically called us douchebags.  haha, boy, did he screw up on that one!  That will never fly with the American people!  I suggest we go home for the night and blame everything on Obama tomorrow."

I thought it was funny as hell. The NPR guy said maybe it wasn't "appropriate" for Obama to act like that.

To appropriate

 
2012-12-31 08:37:41 PM  

Huck And Molly Ziegler: But hey, as long as they can send their kiddies to their Christian academies, they couldn't care less about what happens to public education.


And as long as those Christian academies have Chik-Fil-A's that are managed by sexually adventrous 27 year old women willing to sleep with me, I could also care less about what happens to public education.

Indubitably: Indubitably: Uranus Is Huge!: Fark Independents crudded up this thread in a hurry.

To Crudit

Crud/cred, you gotta admit that's debatable, no, jackhat?


Did you just call yourself a "jackhat"?
 
2012-12-31 08:38:56 PM  

Noam Chimpsky: Does this mean the Democrats won't get their welfare checks?


Nah I already got my confirmation that all of my welfare and benefit checks are going to keep rolling in. I already let the staff that services our 12 bedroom estate that their jobs are secure and we will continue to live "high on the hog" off the government teat. The best part about being a democrat is that the more that you vote the more you can make in your fat GOV check. It's a great system, not sure why everyone puts it down.
 
2012-12-31 08:39:12 PM  
Hasn't Obama apologized for "Presidentin' while Black" yet?

WTF is that guys PROBLEM?
 
2012-12-31 08:43:09 PM  

Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.


Let my preface this by saying that NO ONE IS SUGGESTING WE DO THIS, but if you stopped parroting this BS line and actually crunched the numbers yourself, you'd find that if we taxed the top 2% the remainder of their income, it would just about cover our annual deficit.
 
2012-12-31 08:45:38 PM  
boisdejustice.com
 
2012-12-31 08:50:39 PM  

Goodfella: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Because the rich are supposed to be job creators. But unemployment is, after many years, still at 8%.

The rich have been lazy and have failed at their job of being job creators. Therefore they forfeit their protected status of being trickle-down voodoo economics job creators. No more handouts from the middle class to the rich for being lazy bums.


To be fair they have been setting up jobs in more stable economical countries like Kenya, Somalia, Nigeria, and Liberia. It is not their fault the US is just a powder keg waiting to go off when these stable countries are so accessible.
 
2012-12-31 08:51:29 PM  

TwilightZone: That's it-- no more crack for you. Seriously. When you've had a chance to detox, come back and read what you wrote above. If you're not completely embarassed by it, well, I guess it's true: you can't fix stupid..


It's a troll account, dude.
 
2012-12-31 08:52:25 PM  
*takes ball, goes home
 
2012-12-31 08:55:28 PM  
Soooo....

1. Congress gets nothing done.
2. President: Congress should stop getting nothing done.
3. Congress: How dare he say that to us! Let's get even LESS done!

And people act shocked that Congress has the approval rating of cancer.
 
2012-12-31 08:56:28 PM  

TheAbstractor: Cubs300: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

I'll put it in simple numbers. Tax a millionaire an extra 5% and he loses $50,000 to the government . . . .

Tax a millionaire $50,000 and $50,000 disappears from someone who knows how to make millions of dollars and goes to a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians who only know how to buy votes, protect their turf and waste money in ways that would boggle the mind of most honest people.  That money's gone, and if it creates a job or otherwise sustains or nourishes a human being, it will be completely by accident.

If you let the rich keep their money, they will use that money to make more money. If you give that money to poor people, they will use that money to make more poor people.

And that's just the pragmatic argument.  We're not even getting into the moral problem of any group of people taking $50,000 from anyone just because they think they will spend it more intelligently and morally than the  victim taxpayer.

Seriously, just WTF is wrong with you people!  At least when religious zealots try to control people and their property through laws, they've got a voice in their head or a 2000 year old book telling them to do it.  Libtard socialists don't even have that.  All you have to promote your ideas---ideas which have failed every single farking time they've been tried in every modern civilized country--are some vague notions of social justice to gloss over what any honest, rational person would recognize as motives based in envy and misanthropy.


Well except for the fact the top 1% have been raking in an increasing share of income and wealth for the past 30 years and their taxes over the past decade are the lowest they've been since the great depression yet the economy still sucks. It's almost as if more money in the hands of the rich has nothing to do with the health of the economy. They don't magically shiat out jobs because they've got cash.
 
2012-12-31 08:57:08 PM  

ariseatex: FTA: That combative talk drew anger from Republican senators who have been grappling for a deal with the Democratic majority in that chamber. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the president's comments "very unbecoming of where we are at this moment" and added, "My heart's still pounding."

"I know the president has fun heckling Congress," Corker said. "I think he lost probably numbers of votes with what he did."

[img151.imageshack.us image 276x273]
I heard the speech twice. There was NOTHING "heckling" in there.


They remember that they were able to convince people it was all the Democrats' fault that they voted against the bailout bill because Nancy Pelosi said mean words to them (leading to the third largest single day stock crash in US history). They want everyone to know that Obama "spiking the football" is the excuse if any deal falls through because they totally would have voted for a compromise if Obama didn't hurt their feelings.
 
2012-12-31 09:00:30 PM  

Gulper Eel: Hell of a reach to get to a Cliff Richard reference, <b>subby</b>.


They's just a devil Congress / With evil on their minds / Beware the devil Congress / They's gonna get you from behind
 
2012-12-31 09:02:02 PM  
MSNBC reporting a deal has been reached.
 
2012-12-31 09:02:14 PM  
Well guys. I'm hitting the sack. I have a 6am flight home tomorrow so no fun for me.

Thanks for the tips and everyone have a great new year!
 
2012-12-31 09:04:07 PM  
Well wouldn't you know it, those Duke boys were at it again...

cdn.speednik.com
 
2012-12-31 09:05:15 PM  

The_Gallant_Gallstone: Huck And Molly Ziegler: But hey, as long as they can send their kiddies to their Christian academies, they couldn't care less about what happens to public education.

And as long as those Christian academies have Chik-Fil-A's that are managed by sexually adventrous 27 year old women willing to sleep with me, I could also care less about what happens to public education.

Indubitably: Indubitably: Uranus Is Huge!: Fark Independents crudded up this thread in a hurry.

To Crudit

Crud/cred, you gotta admit that's debatable, no, jackhat?

Did you just call yourself a "jackhat"?


Nope.
 
2012-12-31 09:06:13 PM  

Heraclitus: Hasn't Obama apologized for "Presidentin' while Black" yet?

WTF is that guys PROBLEM?


I'm guessing that GOPers probably went to see "Django Unchained" and thought "WTF is that there black guy doin' up on that horse?!", just like everyone in the film.
 
2012-12-31 09:06:16 PM  

Kuroshin: Well wouldn't you know it, those Duke boys were at it again...

[cdn.speednik.com image 640x413]


Them. Them Duke boys.
 
2012-12-31 09:06:35 PM  

Baryogenesis: Well except for the fact the top 1% have been raking in an increasing share of income and wealth for the past 30 years and their taxes over the past decade are the lowest they've been since the great depression yet the economy still sucks. It's almost as if more money in the hands of the rich has nothing to do with the health of the economy. They don't magically shiat out jobs because they've got cash.


sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net
 
2012-12-31 09:08:33 PM  

TheAbstractor: Cubs300: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

I'll put it in simple numbers. Tax a millionaire an extra 5% and he loses $50,000 to the government . . . .

Tax a millionaire $50,000 and $50,000 disappears from someone who knows how to make millions of dollars and goes to a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians who only know how to buy votes, protect their turf and waste money in ways that would boggle the mind of most honest people.  That money's gone, and if it creates a job or otherwise sustains or nourishes a human being, it will be completely by accident.

If you let the rich keep their money, they will use that money to make more money. If you give that money to poor people, they will use that money to make more poor people.

And that's just the pragmatic argument.  We're not even getting into the moral problem of any group of people taking $50,000 from anyone just because they think they will spend it more intelligently and morally than the  victim taxpayer.

Seriously, just WTF is wrong with you people!  At least when religious zealots try to control people and their property through laws, they've got a voice in their head or a 2000 year old book telling them to do it.  Libtard socialists don't even have that.  All you have to promote your ideas---ideas which have failed every single farking time they've been tried in every modern civilized country--are some vague notions of social justice to gloss over what any honest, rational person would recognize as motives based in envy and misanthropy.


Wow.

How can someone as stupid as you NOT be on my Fav list in red already!

/Thanks for the update!
 
2012-12-31 09:09:10 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Kuroshin: Well wouldn't you know it, those Duke boys were at it again...

[cdn.speednik.com image 640x413]

Them. Them Duke boys.


"...them Duke boys *was*..."

Let's get this right.
 
2012-12-31 09:12:06 PM  

KarmicDisaster: Kuroshin: Well wouldn't you know it, those Duke boys were at it again...

[cdn.speednik.com image 640x413]

Them. Them Duke boys.


DAMMIT!
 
2012-12-31 09:12:41 PM  
We're gonna track Obama's car.
imageshack.us
 
2012-12-31 09:12:44 PM  

ThunderPelvis: KarmicDisaster: Kuroshin: Well wouldn't you know it, those Duke boys were at it again...

[cdn.speednik.com image 640x413]

Them. Them Duke boys.

"...them Duke boys *was*..."

Let's get this right.


EVEN WORSE!!!

/runs off to cry in the corner
 
2012-12-31 09:13:02 PM  
We gotta start cutting the budget somewhere -- let's start with no salaries for members of the House and Senate until they start doing their jobs and running the government. Which means compromising. And staying at work late.

Seriously, if you want to talk about "sucking on the government teat," the House of Representatives is the poster child.
 
2012-12-31 09:13:06 PM  

ariseatex: FTA: That combative talk drew anger from Republican senators who have been grappling for a deal with the Democratic majority in that chamber. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the president's comments "very unbecoming of where we are at this moment" and added, "My heart's still pounding."

"I know the president has fun heckling Congress," Corker said. "I think he lost probably numbers of votes with what he did."

[img151.imageshack.us image 276x273]
I heard the speech twice. There was NOTHING "heckling" in there.


I just wrote to Corker and explained that I am a bit upset that he just raised my taxes. I added that I'll be working for his opposition at the first opportunity. If anything gets to these little shiats, it's this. I recommend it, it's fun.

Republicans: the party of higher taxes
 
2012-12-31 09:13:36 PM  

wademh: We're gonna trash track Obama's car.
[imageshack.us image 598x343]

 
2012-12-31 09:14:07 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: I just got a job that pays $90k/year. Can someone tell me if I'm better off quitting and moving to a shack in the forest? I have a couple of pages written for my manifesto, and at least 10 more in outline form. My hair's a little thin on top, but I can grow a wicked crazy beard if I commit to it.


No, you are one of the dirty no good middle class who are crushing the ability of the rich to be job creators by not working for $90/year. Shame on you!
 
2012-12-31 09:15:18 PM  
All the DC farkwits can go suck on a tail pipe. Way to go you inneffectual twatwaffles.
 
2012-12-31 09:16:18 PM  
Go ahead and shrug. Despite what you might think, you haven't got NEARLY enough of a sufficient, capable work-force fooled.
 
2012-12-31 09:16:35 PM  
Waaah, I'm telling my mommy on Obama. He's being mean!
 
2012-12-31 09:16:37 PM  

Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?


If you're wealthy enough for the taxes to affect you, then you're harming yourself financially
 
2012-12-31 09:16:44 PM  
So the Senate and White House are willing to negotiate, but once again, the butthurt Teabaggers and associates in the House refuse. And, once again, it's going to fark over the country, purely because the GOP is full of whiny, spiteful children dedicated to a pledge some retard came up with before his balls dropped.

Lovely.
 
2012-12-31 09:17:06 PM  

nucal: All the DC farkwits can go suck on a tail pipe. Way to go you inneffectual twatwaffles.


Twatwaffle!
 
2012-12-31 09:17:27 PM  
I worked 66 hours last week, I'm scheduled to work 74 hours this week...  tomorrow alone, I'll be working a 14 hour day. Right now, tens of thousands of minimum wagers are cooking, cleaning, fixing toilets, and doing the jobs that need to be done. John Boehner's House, on the other hand, doesn't give a damn about the job they haven't done in years... they don't care about the tax hikes they put into  place before, they don't care about the cuts and who they hurt... they're going to get their money no matter what... not only that, congress got a raise for 2013, so happy new year to them. Entitled... lazy... intransigent, spoiled, greedy, unwilling to do the hard work that others are more willing to do... no, it's not a union, it's a political party, say hi to the new GOP.
 
2012-12-31 09:17:44 PM  

limeyfellow: No, you are one of the dirty no good middle class who are crushing the ability of the rich to be job creators by not working for $90/year. Shame on you!



F*CK. I was afraid of that.
 
2012-12-31 09:17:50 PM  

LordJiro: So the Senate and White House are willing to negotiate, but once again, the butthurt Teabaggers and associates in the House refuse. And, once again, it's going to fark over the country, purely because the GOP is full of whiny, spiteful children dedicated to a pledge some retard came up with before his balls dropped.

Lovely.

To Teatard

 
2012-12-31 09:18:50 PM  
so thats what, 540 pink slips that we need to hand out tomorrow?
 
2012-12-31 09:18:53 PM  

Indubitably: LordJiro: So the Senate and White House are willing to negotiate, but once again, the butthurt Teabaggers and associates in the House refuse. And, once again, it's going to fark over the country, purely because the GOP is full of whiny, spiteful children dedicated to a pledge some retard came up with before his balls dropped.

Lovely.

To Teatard


P.S. Oooh. That's good. I like it.
 
2012-12-31 09:19:26 PM  

firefly212: I worked 66 hours last week, I'm scheduled to work 74 hours this week...  tomorrow alone, I'll be working a 14 hour day. Right now, tens of thousands of minimum wagers are cooking, cleaning, fixing toilets, and doing the jobs that need to be done. John Boehner's House, on the other hand, doesn't give a damn about the job they haven't done in years... they don't care about the tax hikes they put into  place before, they don't care about the cuts and who they hurt... they're going to get their money no matter what... not only that, congress got a raise for 2013, so happy new year to them. Entitled... lazy... intransigent, spoiled, greedy, unwilling to do the hard work that others are more willing to do... no, it's not a union, it's a political party, say hi to the new GOP.


And on top of that, you want health insurance too, you lazy good-for-nothing. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
2012-12-31 09:20:18 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: LordJiro: So the Senate and White House are willing to negotiate, but once again, the butthurt Teabaggers and associates in the House refuse. And, once again, it's going to fark over the country, purely because the GOP is full of whiny, spiteful children dedicated to a pledge some retard came up with before his balls dropped.

Lovely.

To Teatard

P.S. Oooh. That's good. I like it.


P.P.S. Please use it to discredit these jackhats. To Tea.
 
2012-12-31 09:20:56 PM  

Infernalist: Kome: heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.

Who would use a Bachmann based measurement? That's just retarded.

Technically, 100 Bachmanns equal one Perry. 100 Perries equals one Palin. There is no unit higher than the Palin, so we're forced to use MegaPalin.


Considering the magnitude of one Bachmann, that's a whole lot of stupid. A Weapon of Mass Derp-struction!
 
2012-12-31 09:21:22 PM  
Dear House Republicans:

It's obvious that everyone else has come together on a compromise and you're the arseholes that won't do anything unless it's exactly how you want it. You're only fooling some of the people most of the time right now.

I hope the Best Korea satellite breaks up and falls on each one of your homes.
 
2012-12-31 09:21:48 PM  

ultraholland: This is what you get when Obama doesn't have his teleprompter. So sad.

trollololo


Kenny B: Who the hell wrote this?


Figure you both know this already, but .. thats the axiom
 
2012-12-31 09:22:03 PM  

Indubitably: Indubitably: Indubitably: LordJiro: So the Senate and White House are willing to negotiate, but once again, the butthurt Teabaggers and associates in the House refuse. And, once again, it's going to fark over the country, purely because the GOP is full of whiny, spiteful children dedicated to a pledge some retard came up with before his balls dropped.

Lovely.

To Teatard

P.S. Oooh. That's good. I like it.

P.P.S. Please use it to discredit these jackhats. To Tea.


P.P.P.S. "Pahk the cahr, jahkhaht. To Tea-ah."
 
2012-12-31 09:22:17 PM  
But house fixes us when we break.
 
2012-12-31 09:22:27 PM  
 
2012-12-31 09:22:39 PM  
Look out BELOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooow........

/Cannon ball
 
2012-12-31 09:23:49 PM  

hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!


I've met quite a few people like this.
You know those shows out these days, like Restaurant Impossible, where some guy who knows he's farked his business calls in a consultant to tell him where he went wrong-and the consultant does, but HARD?

You don't get to see on TV the ones where the guy says "Well, I never! Yeah yeah my business is bleeding red ink, you found a dozen major health code violations, caught my sous chef pimping out the waitress on the security cam, and found the waitress putting on a show for a client using a cucumber that she then put right back in the cooler, but you have NO RIGHT to yell at me!"

I've been the consultant on a few occasions...
 
2012-12-31 09:23:56 PM  
The @ssholeness and incompetence of the GOP is treasonous. They have betrayed our entire system of government. In a Democracy, you compromise to get shiat done, especially when the people at the other end of the bargaining table have the F*CKING MANDATE from the American People. This hostage-taking bullshiat has to stop, and the MORON GOP supporters need to either die from embarrassment, or wake the f*ck up and stop voting for these Teabagger clowns
 
2012-12-31 09:28:58 PM  
SO under Obama, their will be furloghs at the Pentagon, during the same time that he approved pay increases for the VP and Congress.
 
2012-12-31 09:31:00 PM  

Hugh_Janus: SO under Obama, their will be furloghs at the Pentagon


They're will be blood and it will be on the hands of pResident B. Hussein Fartbama, S.J.
 
2012-12-31 09:33:40 PM  
First I was like this

kellyjaye.patriotactionnetwork.com

Then I was like this

www.4tnz.com

Now I'm like this, thanks to rum

fc00.deviantart.net
 
2012-12-31 09:33:58 PM  

Hugh_Janus: SO under Obama, their will be furloghs at the Pentagon, during the same time that he approved pay increases for the VP and Congress.



No, that will happen in a country held hostage by the GOP House. Obama offered compromise. The GOP offered NOTHING.
 
2012-12-31 09:35:44 PM  

lizyrd: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

If you're wealthy enough for the taxes to affect you, then you're harming yourself financially


Damned "Add Comment" button.

...financially over ideology. You're likely invested in companies that rely heavily (or soley) on government purchasing. Taking a machete to federal spending is likely to decrease your income on a greater level than some nominal tax increase. If you're willing to sacrifice your financial well being over an ideological objection to paying taxes, you're a fool.

If you're not wealthy enough for the proposed increase to affect you, then you're an even bigger fool. You're willing to tank the economy over a tax increase that won't be felt by you.

We've dug a big hole, but we can still get out of it. I'm nowhere near the top 1%, but I would readily go back to paying a pre-W tax rate if it were part of a broader strategy to protect the economy and decrease deficit spending.
 
2012-12-31 09:37:07 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: Hugh_Janus: SO under Obama, their will be furloghs at the Pentagon, during the same time that he approved pay increases for the VP and Congress.


No, that will happen in a country held hostage by the GOP House. Obama offered compromise. The GOP offered NOTHING.


Indeed, and I offered funnay-really, freely.

Hate not, learn wot.
 
2012-12-31 09:42:45 PM  
They should have focused more on spending cuts than taxes but why do now that can wait until next year?
 
2012-12-31 09:42:57 PM  
Whatever the deal is, we'll probably have a recession. Thanks, Congress.
 
2012-12-31 09:43:08 PM  
I hope the House has lupus.
 
2012-12-31 09:53:20 PM  

Funk Brothers: When you have companies such as Hobby Lobby or other small businesses employing over 50 workers resisting certain parts of the healthcare law over religious freedom, something is wrong in this country.


When you decide to sue the federal government over completely sensible laws because they infringe on your completely imaginary "right" to impose your religion on your employees, there is something wrong with your religion. And, possibly, your legal team.
 
2012-12-31 09:54:39 PM  

ariseatex: FTA: That combative talk drew anger from Republican senators who have been grappling for a deal with the Democratic majority in that chamber. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the president's comments "very unbecoming of where we are at this moment" and added, "My heart's still pounding."

"I know the president has fun heckling Congress," Corker said. "I think he lost probably numbers of votes with what he did."

[img151.imageshack.us image 276x273]
I heard the speech twice. There was NOTHING "heckling" in there.


Was he being uppity again?
 
2012-12-31 09:57:58 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Can one of you people buy me a Lamborghini?

/Nah, I'm not really that tacky. :)
//Glad I moved out of equities at the end of the day. Staying put until the market sorts this out. Got burned hard last time they played with the debt ceiling.


Give NewportBarGuy the Lamb?
 
2012-12-31 09:58:58 PM  
It's a normal day at the office.
John is working.
Stuart is working.
Freddy is gay, but he's working too.
Nelly, Pat, and Richard are all working.
Susan, the Republican, is being farked in the ass by the mailroom boy while she photocopies her tits as an email attachment to the entire company, while filling out sexual harassment forms and writing a morally-outraged memo about why she thinks Freddy should be fired for his sinful preference.  The company's strategy meeting is cancelled, again, because the mix of vodka and prescription drugs made Susan vomit all over the conference table.

Our government is functioning much like this, except that in this example people have jobs.
 
2012-12-31 10:01:35 PM  
i651.photobucket.com

// If I don't work
// I don't get paid.
// Why should congress be any different?
// Pay THOSE leeches by the hour
// (capped at 40/week) and see how many
// "breaks" they take then.
 
2012-12-31 10:08:47 PM  

safetycap: [i651.photobucket.com image 375x260]

// If I don't work
// I don't get paid.
// Why should congress be any different?
// Pay THOSE leeches by the hour
// (capped at 40/week) and see how many
// "breaks" they take then.


I wish I could get a pay raise for being completely incompetent at my job.
 
2012-12-31 10:09:24 PM  

Kuroshin: Well wouldn't you know it, those Duke boys were at it again...

[cdn.speednik.com image 640x413]


When did they paint the 01 on Boehner?
 
2012-12-31 10:09:35 PM  

Funk Brothers: Scaevola: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

I live with my mom. The Tea Party is ruining this country. Or, I should say, the Koch brothers are ruining this country, while hiding behind a bunch of white evangelical rubes.

Obama is ruining this country. Haven't you seen all the warning signs? Obama was born on the Kingdom of Hawaii. The Kingdom of Hawaii was ruled by a Monarchy/Dictator. This tax increase on the rich is leading us towards the road to dictatorship under Obama and towards a unprecedented third term.

When you have companies such as Hobby Lobby or other small businesses employing over 50 workers resisting certain parts of the healthcare law over religious freedom, something is wrong in this country.


7/10 - you are pretty good, but you ain't no Mike_Lowell.
 
2012-12-31 10:10:07 PM  
I said it when this session of Congress started with group reading - They would be improving immensely if they only promised to read the Constitution over and over.
 
2012-12-31 10:11:30 PM  

Mrtraveler01: safetycap: [i651.photobucket.com image 375x260]

// If I don't work
// I don't get paid.
// Why should congress be any different?
// Pay THOSE leeches by the hour
// (capped at 40/week) and see how many
// "breaks" they take then.

I wish I could get a pay raise for being completely incompetent at my job.


You're not allowed to vote yourself a pay raise.

That'd be socialism.
 
2012-12-31 10:21:09 PM  
For those that haven't seen it:

What the Republicans are calling being confrontational.

I for one can't wait to see the "Key and Peele-Anger Translator" version of this.

/What Republicans heard-NSFW-Pulp Fiction
 
2012-12-31 10:24:10 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Funk Brothers: Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Because they are not people in need. Those in need always come before those who are not in need.



Here we see Poe's Law in action.

If I hadn't already marked Funk Brothers down in previous threads as being homophobic and cruel (and therefore likely conservative), I would have assumed that his post was intended as a joke or parody.
 
2012-12-31 10:25:31 PM  
images.uulyrics.com

Enthusiastically approves this messagge
 
2012-12-31 10:28:15 PM  
I would recommend the bootstrappy "Makers VS. Takers" Conservatives stop reading "Atlas Shrugged" and switch to a detailed History Of The French Revolution, because it's a far more accurate historical precedent to what is about to happen unless shiat changes than anything Ayn Rand puked forth.

The similarities are striking.
 
2012-12-31 10:29:19 PM  
I don't like this deal, and I cannot believe that I'm saying this, but I kinda hope the nutbar Tea Party crazies scuttle it in the house.
 
2012-12-31 10:32:57 PM  

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATES AMERICA BECAUSE A BLACK DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT

 
2012-12-31 10:33:26 PM  

Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.


To maybe not accept the pay raise that Obama gave them via Executive Order? They sure as hell don't deserve it.

/Worst Congress since the 80th
//Should all be out of a job
///every last damn one of them
 
2012-12-31 10:35:32 PM  
Hello all, how'd things go
/Willie like you don't remember him : )
 
2012-12-31 10:35:37 PM  

ecl: [tanakamusic.com image 500x322]
My favorite so far.


and getting Congress to do anything is just like Pulling Teeth.
 
2012-12-31 10:36:55 PM  

hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was mean" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!



Because it's hard.   It's really hard.
 
2012-12-31 10:37:27 PM  
um... is anyone else tired of supporting crack whores and such? isn't it time we ALL grew up, including said crack whores? hello?!
 
2012-12-31 10:39:28 PM  

King Something: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATES AMERICA BECAUSE A BLACK DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT


THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATES HIP-HOP MUSIC BECAUSE A KENYAN SOCIALIST IS PRESIDENT.

FTFY
 
2012-12-31 10:41:14 PM  

CPT Ethanolic: Brontes: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

Because you make up the sum total of the US Economy.

 I'm in the top 1%.  I'm supposed to be the one this hits hardest.  FACT - it doesn't.


Wowwwwww, good for you. We get it, you're rich. Congrats!
 
2012-12-31 10:44:45 PM  

King Something: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATES AMERICA BECAUSE A BLACK DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT


Wha? Why..just because the first black President ever has also been the recipient of the most intense, focused, concentrated, conspiracy laden, panicky, bizarre, weird, corporately funded, white based resistance than any other President in history doesn't mean the Republican party is racist! What are you saying?
 
2012-12-31 10:49:32 PM  

zappaisfrank: King Something: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATES AMERICA BECAUSE A BLACK DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT

Wha? Why..just because the first black President ever has also been the recipient of the most intense, focused, concentrated, conspiracy laden, panicky, bizarre, weird, corporately funded, CLASS-based resistance than any other President in history doesn't mean the Republican party is racist! What are you saying?


FIXED.
 
2012-12-31 10:49:33 PM  

zappaisfrank: King Something: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATES AMERICA BECAUSE A BLACK DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT

Wha? Why..just because the first black President ever has also been the recipient of the most intense, focused, concentrated, conspiracy laden, panicky, bizarre, weird, corporately funded, white based resistance than any other President in history doesn't mean the Republican party is racist! What are you saying?


Actually, I would agree. They hate him because he's a Democrat; in most Republicans' minds (ha!), black is like #8 or 9 on the list of things wrong with Barack Obama.
 
2012-12-31 10:54:45 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: zappaisfrank: King Something: THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HATES AMERICA BECAUSE A BLACK DEMOCRAT IS PRESIDENT

Wha? Why..just because the first black President ever has also been the recipient of the most intense, focused, concentrated, conspiracy laden, panicky, bizarre, weird, corporately funded, white based resistance than any other President in history doesn't mean the Republican party is racist! What are you saying?

Actually, I would agree. They hate him because he's a Democrat; in most Republicans' minds (ha!), black is like #8 or 9 on the list of things wrong with Barack Obama.


I knew as soon as Obama was elected that Republicans would be able to smoke-screen their racism by claiming that any critique of him would be interpreted as racism and that was "playing the race card". So, they are free to hate his black ass with virtual impunity. As an extra added bonus, they'd be free to label the failure of the two or three black Republicans as racism, too (Never mind the fact that they're frickin' insane). That's why they clung so hard to Allen West and Herman Cain.
 
2012-12-31 11:03:32 PM  

ciberido: WhyteRaven74: Funk Brothers: Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Because they are not people in need. Those in need always come before those who are not in need.


Here we see Poe's Law in action.

If I hadn't already marked Funk Brothers down in previous threads as being homophobic and cruel (and therefore likely conservative), I would have assumed that his post was intended as a joke or parody.


Farkying people really does work, It's difficult to sort out the crazies but it can be done.
 
2012-12-31 11:03:56 PM  

utah dude: um... is anyone else tired of supporting crack whores and such? isn't it time we ALL grew up, including said crack whores? hello?!


I'd actually like to see what percentage of the budget is spent on crack whores. It's probably hundreds of percents, like PBS or something.
 
2012-12-31 11:07:06 PM  

Infernalist: Expect lots of press conferences and youtube speeches from the President harassing the GOP about holding 'middle america' hostage to the desire to cut taxes for the wealthy.


Good! That's what the "bully pulpit" is for, instead of ignoring it for most of the first term and letting the GOP set the dialogue.
 
2012-12-31 11:09:15 PM  

hockeychick: But house fixes us when we break.


Well played!
 
2012-12-31 11:11:03 PM  

vrax: I'd actually like to see what percentage of the budget is spent on crack whores. It's probably hundreds of percents, like PBS or something.


what about the 'and such' part, though. there are many things related to crack whores and PBS is only one of them.
 
2012-12-31 11:15:49 PM  
 

Xanadone: Gulper Eel: Hell of a reach to get to a Cliff Richard reference, <b>subby</b>.

They's just a devil Congress / With evil on their minds / Beware the devil Congress / They's gonna get you from behind

.

Yeah. I'm comfortable with what I did.

/Submitter
//you can't argue with success
 
2012-12-31 11:18:26 PM  
i.imgur.com

/Approves of this thread
 
2012-12-31 11:19:49 PM  
Goodfella:

And then the terrorists win! The other ones I mean.
 
2012-12-31 11:22:10 PM  

utah dude: vrax: I'd actually like to see what percentage of the budget is spent on crack whores. It's probably hundreds of percents, like PBS or something.

what about the 'and such' part, though. there are many things related to crack whores and PBS is only one of them.


Damned no good such and such!
 
2012-12-31 11:22:37 PM  

lemonysprite: Goodfella:

And then the terrorists win! The other ones I mean.


The Tealiban?
 
2012-12-31 11:27:38 PM  

zappaisfrank:
Ayn Rand was an unschooled moron who pulled her "philosophy" out of her ass to pay her bills and make a name for herself because she was a first class narcissist and loved the attention being "shocking" for her day generated.


i651.photobucket.com

You are my new hero
 
2012-12-31 11:35:13 PM  
So what will make these farkwads actually get something done? How bout we slash their salarys to the AVERAGE salary of the constituents in their state. Take away their retirement fund and give them the AVERAGE retirement plan offered in their state. do the same with healthcare benefits and other perks. When these asshats start suffering like the rest of us I bet shiat gets done real quick. Oh and throw the farking lobbyists in the Potomac river so they can't line their pockets that way either.
 
2012-12-31 11:38:50 PM  

Hugh_Janus: SO under Obama, their will be furloghs at the Pentagon, during the same time that he approved pay increases for the VP and Congress.


So... it's come to this... the trolls unionized so we could do nothing about their laziness... damn it, Jim.
 
2012-12-31 11:39:45 PM  

fire4418: So what will make these farkwads actually get something done? How bout we slash their salarys to the AVERAGE salary of the constituents in their state. Take away their retirement fund and give them the AVERAGE retirement plan offered in their state. do the same with healthcare benefits and other perks. When these asshats start suffering like the rest of us I bet shiat gets done real quick. Oh and throw the farking lobbyists in the Potomac river so they can't line their pockets that way either.


They're all millionaires already... slashing Issa's public sector paycheck isn't gonna do jack about the fact he's already got half a billion dollars, is in the bag of the defense industry, and couldn't care less about how his constituents are doing.
 
2012-12-31 11:42:46 PM  

PsyLord: I hope the House has lupus.


It can be arranged.

Although rabies would be better.
 
2012-12-31 11:46:46 PM  

firefly212: They're all millionaires already... slashing Issa's public sector paycheck isn't gonna do jack about the fact he's already got half a billion dollars, is in the bag of the defense industry, and couldn't care less about how his constituents are doing.


A great idea is to force all incoming legislators to put all of their worth into government bonds, only able to remove a percentage over a time period based on their term in government.
A single-term senator is only allowed 100% of his money out of government bonds after 6 years. A two term senator? 12 years. And so on.
 
2012-12-31 11:49:12 PM  

fire4418: So what will make these farkwads actually get something done? How bout we slash their salarys to the AVERAGE salary of the constituents in their state. Take away their retirement fund and give them the AVERAGE retirement plan offered in their state. do the same with healthcare benefits and other perks. When these asshats start suffering like the rest of us I bet shiat gets done real quick. Oh and throw the farking lobbyists in the Potomac river so they can't line their pockets that way either.


An excellent idea.

Sadly, it will never be implemented, as the only way a law curtailing lawmakers' pay will ever get passed is if it gets approved by those very lawmakers. I highly doubt our nation's Representatives and Senators would be in any particular hurry to vote their own salaries down from "upper middle class, before you factor in perks like having your own staff and private jet that doesn't cost you one red cent" to "working stiff who makes just barely enough to not die of starvation, exposure to the elements or easily preventable and easily treatable diseases; and lives paycheck-to-paycheck, picking and choosing which bills to pay based on which bill's late fee is most or least affordable once the costs of rent, food and fuel are factored in."
 
2012-12-31 11:53:27 PM  

Gyrfalcon: PsyLord: I hope the House has lupus.

It can be arranged.

Although rabies would be better.


This would be a great time for the GOP to get some of that water boarding they think is so warm and fuzzy.
 
2012-12-31 11:56:36 PM  

Shades: highrye: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Xetal: Shades: Yes, let's keep pretending that we don't know that even if we taxed the top 1% (or it it the 2% these days? So hard to keep up) the entirety of their income- a 100% tax rate- it would only pay for about a week and change of the federal government (nevermind state taxes). Let's pretend that we aren't borrowing trillions a year and that most of it goes to entitlements. Let's pretend that Europe hasn't been doing this longer than we have, and aren't all going down the fiscal toilet. Let's pretend that we can just give everything to everyone, and things will work out.

Or, you know, we could be adults and limit the budget to what we actually take in. Just a thought.

You know how I know that you're bad at math?

Because you don't know how to read CBO reports? It's OK kid, the world needs ditch diggers too.

That's right, I'm a ditch digger because you think that every European country is failing and that the top 1-2% don't make much money.

Sorry that you suck at math and basic higher level thinking... but it really isn't my fault that you're a moron. Oh well, I'll put you in "retarded ideologue" gray with all the others.

Yes Greece, Spain, Italy, Ireland, Portugal, soon France, and then Germany, and then the rest of Europe are doing just swell. Proud to be on your little "list", leech.

If you took 100 percent of the top one percent's income it would cover the Federal budget for about 60 percent of the year.

Actually, it'd cover about one third of the deficit, which translates to a little over 20% of the budget. And it would cut states off entirely, and it would also end with nobody would bother to be in the top 1% anymore of even close. If we raised taxes strenuously, we would realistically get about 5% of the budget, at the most (or ~11% of the deficit). That leaves the overwhelming majority of the deficit to either be paid for in spending cuts or we just keep borrowing money until people don't want to lend us money anymore (Greece). We cannot tax our way out of this mess. We have to raise the Social Security age and drastically slash benefits. It needs to no longer be economically-viable to be on the dole. It will be that way anyway, the only options are we can do it now, when there's time to cushion the blow, or we can do it later, when reality takes a brick to our collective faces (Greece again).


To no longer be economically viable to be on the dole, we need living wages for everyone.

Otherwise, by definition, they will be on the dole. There is no solution to food stamps and federally subsidized food pantries that to not involve living wages for everyone. Most peoploe who utilize federal aid in some way work at least one job and yet require federal aid to survive.

That is the economic reality that no conservative wants to face. The problem begins and ends with a private sector that wants to turn everyone into wards of the state as a matter of policy.
 
2013-01-01 12:09:39 AM  
If you're on the east coast, Happy New Year!

If you're not, when are you dinosaurs gonna join 2013?
 
2013-01-01 12:19:26 AM  

King Something: If you're on the east coast, Happy New Year!

If you're not, when are you dinosaurs gonna join 2013?


We're too cool for 2013 on the west coast, have 2013 get back to us when we got the time for it.
 
2013-01-01 12:20:04 AM  
n the House, GOP sources said earlier Monday that there's little practical difference in settling the issue Monday night versus Tuesday. But if tax-averse House Republicans approve the bill on Tuesday -- when taxes have technically gone up -- they can argue they've voted for a tax cut to bring rates back down, even after just a few hours, GOP sources said. That could bring some more Republicans on board, one source said.

Step 1: Stall a vote in the House until after the new year.
Step 2: Watch taxes go up.
Step 3: Vote for the new tax cuts
Step 4: Claim you lowered taxes
Step 5: Profit.

/And by "profit" I mean "Get reamed by smart Democrats who will pin the entire debacle on Republicans, including "ZOMG BY THEIR INACTION THEY RAISED YOUR TAXES HURR"
 
2013-01-01 12:23:56 AM  

ariseatex: FTA: That combative talk drew anger from Republican senators who have been grappling for a deal with the Democratic majority in that chamber. Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tennessee, called the president's comments "very unbecoming of where we are at this moment" and added, "My heart's still pounding."

"I know the president has fun heckling Congress," Corker said. "I think he lost probably numbers of votes with what he did."

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I heard the speech twice. There was NOTHING "heckling" in there.


but he was pretty black when he gave the speech
 
2013-01-01 12:26:10 AM  

CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?


If this continues, the economy might go back into recession. Then you just might care.

/HAPPY NEW YEAR YOU farkERS!
 
2013-01-01 12:34:03 AM  

Bucky Katt: CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?

If this continues, the economy might go back into recession. Then you just might care.

/HAPPY NEW YEAR YOU farkERS!


Back atcha. Happy New Years all you crazy people.
 
2013-01-01 12:37:44 AM  

Sergeant Grumbles: firefly212: They're all millionaires already... slashing Issa's public sector paycheck isn't gonna do jack about the fact he's already got half a billion dollars, is in the bag of the defense industry, and couldn't care less about how his constituents are doing.

A great idea is to force all incoming legislators to put all of their worth into government bonds, only able to remove a percentage over a time period based on their term in government.
A single-term senator is only allowed 100% of his money out of government bonds after 6 years. A two term senator? 12 years. And so on.


So if they spend half their life in public service, they lose everything... surely this plan can't go wrong.

I don't have a good  answer for how to fix it, but I think the bigger problem is the ability for them to actively take money from people for whom their legislation has great effect.
 
2013-01-01 12:44:16 AM  

TheAbstractor: Tax a millionaire $50,000 and $50,000 disappears from someone who knows how to make millions of dollars and goes to a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians who only know how to buy votes, protect their turf and waste money in ways that would boggle the mind of most honest people.  That money's gone, and if it creates a job or otherwise sustains or nourishes a human being, it will be completely by accident.

If you let the rich keep their money, they will use that money to make more money. If you give that money to poor people, they will use that money to make more poor people.

And that's just the pragmatic argument.  We're not even getting into the moral problem of any group of people taking $50,000 from anyone just because they think they will spend it more intelligently and morally than the  victim taxpayer.


Wrong on all counts. Wow.
 
2013-01-01 12:44:43 AM  

CthulhuCalling: [ericjohnson.jpg]

Enthusiastically approves this message


just in case some of you farkers don't get the reference, enjoy some new year's music:

cliffs of dover
 
2013-01-01 12:46:31 AM  
All offers expired at midnight.
 
2013-01-01 12:51:05 AM  

TheOther: All offers expired at midnight.


And thus ends my offer to give Boehner 20 bucks to drink his own piss.
 
2013-01-01 12:53:38 AM  

King Something: If you're on the east coast, Happy New Year!

If you're not, when are you dinosaurs gonna join 2013?


We don't want to follow you off the cliff, thanks.
 
2013-01-01 01:01:16 AM  

divgradcurl: CthulhuCalling: [ericjohnson.jpg]

Enthusiastically approves this message

just in case some of you farkers don't get the reference, enjoy some new year's music:

cliffs of dover


Loved that on Guitar Hero...I could never play that for real so the virtual version was always a bit of fun,
 
2013-01-01 01:25:04 AM  
By dicking around until the deadline passed the GOP house members can now say that they didn't raise taxes, they just allowed them to go up through inaction. That is a violation of Asimov's rules of robotics.
 
2013-01-01 01:25:22 AM  
This reminds me of the fight my uncle John and uncle Marty got into back in 1993, after which they decided not to speak to each other for almost 3 month. I just hope that the Senate doesn't die of AIDS in a couple of years and the house doesn't decide to move to Honduras after meeting an underage male prostitute named Jesus.
 
2013-01-01 01:47:27 AM  
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

fark this congress.
 
2013-01-01 01:51:21 AM  
Sigh.

On the one hand, raising taxes and cutting spending during a recession is stupid. We need taxes (ALL OF THEM, regardless of income, though lower income is more effective) as low as possible and spending as high as possible to help the economy rebound.

On the other hand, everyone here except for the right wing idiots knows that this is the only real chance we have to cut spending and raise taxes. If we leave it for later, when the economy is stronger, the GOP will simply refuse. Right now the GOP is in disarray and the tax increases and spending cuts can't be trapped in committee or filibustered. If this opportunity is missed, we won't see another chance like it for probably decades.

On the gripping hand, Obama and the Democrats don't seem to actually want to use this priceless opportunity. Instead, they're compromising again and again with the GOP, and putting forth weak, spineless plans, as usual. Not that this is unexpected. In all my adult years, I think I've yet to see a political opportunity the Democrats DIDN'T waste.

Whether it happens now, or in a few days/weeks, prepare for yet another milquetoast, middle of the road bill that doesn't really fix anything, but just pushes the problems down the road until next time.
 
2013-01-01 01:55:09 AM  

MrHappyRotter: This reminds me of the fight my uncle John and uncle Marty got into back in 1993, after which they decided not to speak to each other for almost 3 month. I just hope that the Senate doesn't die of AIDS in a couple of years and the house doesn't decide to move to Honduras after meeting an underage male prostitute named Jesus.


i1091.photobucket.com
 
2013-01-01 01:59:30 AM  

MrHappyRotter: This reminds me of the fight my uncle John and uncle Marty got into back in 1993, after which they decided not to speak to each other for almost 3 month. I just hope that the Senate doesn't die of AIDS in a couple of years and the house doesn't decide to move to Honduras after meeting an underage male prostitute named Jesus.


Really? I hope they do.
 
2013-01-01 02:18:31 AM  

yukichigai: [wikicheats.gametrailers.com image 350x197]

It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.


Don't blame me.  I voted for the Tunnel Snakes.
 
2013-01-01 02:19:19 AM  

red5ish: By dicking around until the deadline passed the GOP house members can now say that they didn't raise taxes, they just allowed them to go up through inaction. That is a violation of Asimov's rules of robotics.


Rules are for other robots.
 
2013-01-01 02:23:27 AM  

red5ish: By dicking around until the deadline passed the GOP house members can now say that they didn't raise taxes, they just allowed them to go up through inaction. That is a violation of Asimov's rules of robotics.


Asimov and The GOP had a similar solution to this problem: narrow the definition of human.
 
2013-01-01 02:25:56 AM  

Xetal: Funk Brothers: Great_Milenko: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

Why are you so concerned about the rich? They wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

The thing is the rich have earned it. They create things and make money off of what they have created. The government feels that the rich should pay more what they have earned from their creations and give that money towards people who are lazy and don't create things. I wouldn't give money to those who are poor and lazy. They're leeches.

Counterpoint: The rich required the benefits of this society to become rich. Their businesses are built on it and the laws of this society are what stop roving groups of heavily armed people from taking their riches.


In other words: "Gimme!!!"
 
2013-01-01 02:29:59 AM  

zappaisfrank: I would recommend the bootstrappy "Makers VS. Takers" Conservatives stop reading "Atlas Shrugged" and switch to a detailed History Of The French Revolution, because it's a far more accurate historical precedent to what is about to happen unless shiat changes than anything Ayn Rand puked forth.

The similarities are striking.


"Whaaaaahhh!!! Gimme gimme gimme or I'll kill you."

LOL. You and the other deadbeats are too farking lazy to wipe the Cheetos off your mugs and clamber out of your basements to look for a job, much less start a revolution.

You'll do nothing. Enjoy the cheetos.
 
2013-01-01 02:48:34 AM  

zappaisfrank: I would recommend the bootstrappy "Makers VS. Takers" Conservatives stop reading "Atlas Shrugged" and switch to a detailed History Of The French Revolution, because it's a far more accurate historical precedent to what is about to happen unless shiat changes than anything Ayn Rand puked forth.

The similarities are striking.


except today the rallying cry from the poor would be something like "Yes! Lets us eat cake! thank you job creators!"
 
2013-01-01 03:26:18 AM  
So does this affect withholding immediately? How does that work?
 
2013-01-01 03:31:09 AM  
House Repubs yoiu had one job...ONE FARKING JOB and you blew it.
 
2013-01-01 03:36:59 AM  

Emposter: On the gripping hand, Obama and the Democrats don't seem to actually want to use this priceless opportunity. Instead, they're compromising again and again with the GOP, and putting forth weak, spineless plans, as usual. Not that this is unexpected. In all my adult years, I think I've yet to see a political opportunity the Democrats DIDN'T waste.


It's almost as if they're only paying lip service to their "party of the common people" ideology.
 
2013-01-01 03:41:39 AM  

ciberido: yukichigai: [wikicheats.gametrailers.com image 350x197]

It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.

Don't blame me.  I voted for the Tunnel Snakes.


I would claim that the GOP is pretty much like the Legion, but that seems like it would be an insult to the Legion.
 
2013-01-01 05:22:38 AM  

whither_apophis: cman: NewportBarGuy: Can one of you people buy me a Lamborghini?

/Nah, I'm not really that tacky. :)
//Glad I moved out of equities at the end of the day. Staying put until the market sorts this out. Got burned hard last time they played with the debt ceiling.

FFS

Why cant I stop thinking about the TV show Chuck? As soon as I saw "Lamborghini", that was the first thing that popped into me head

It's severe Yvonne withdrawls, I recommend http://www.mysobe.com/miami-beach/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Yvonne-St rahovski-nude-in-South-Beach.jpg

/NSFW if you missed the "nude" part


bless you sir.
 
2013-01-01 05:42:30 AM  

CPT Ethanolic: Going over cliff will change my paycheck by MAYBE $20/week.  Do I really care?


Sure you should. Hey, it's not so much the amount as it is the principle of the matter. Ultimately, you are being punished because the people - who are SUPPOSED to be representing you - cannot and will not get their shiat together. You have to be put upon because they are inept, failing buffoons. And, that's not fair to you. Not fair to me.

So, yes. You should care. Any time someone working for you is a complete and utter fark up, you should care enough to send them packing.
 
2013-01-01 05:52:53 AM  

Smelly McUgly: ciberido: yukichigai: [wikicheats.gametrailers.com image 350x197]

It's probably because Obama sided with the NCR too many times.

Don't blame me.  I voted for the Tunnel Snakes.

I would claim that the GOP is pretty much like the Legion, but that seems like it would be an insult to the Legion.


They're more like Wehrner's bunch over at the Pitt.
 
2013-01-01 07:14:54 AM  

Smelly McUgly: I would claim that the GOP is pretty much like the Legion, but that seems like it would be an insult to the Legion.


The GOP's most effusive fevered dreams of the lovechild of Ronald Reagan and Ayn Rand raised by Rush and Hannity and trained by Schwarzenegger would still not be as badass as Lanius.

/finished it yesterday.
//feel bad about siding with NCR, but c'mon, bear flag.
 
2013-01-01 07:28:28 AM  

TheAbstractor: Tax a millionaire $50,000 and $50,000 disappears from someone who knows how to make millions of dollars and goes to a bunch of bureaucrats and politicians who only know how to buy votes, protect their turf and waste money in ways that would boggle the mind of most honest people.  That money's gone, and if it creates a job or otherwise sustains or nourishes a human being, it will be completely by accident.

If you let the rich keep their money, they will use that money to make more money.


That assumes that the rich are making more money. What is happening is the reserve bank is making more money so everyone's cash is now worth less.  The very rich are using ways to turn that new manufactured money into their personal wealth and there is some trickle down to other rich people from that but nearly everyone else ends up in worse shape.
 
2013-01-01 07:51:31 AM  
the bill was passed at 2 a.m. on January first. what could possibly be wrong with it?
 
2013-01-01 08:53:32 AM  

hawcian: Wait, I'm sorry. The President lambasted Congress for waiting until the last second, which they did, and the Republicans' response is, "Well, he's being mean, so we don't feel like compromising anymore. Enjoy your recession!"

Are you farking kidding me? It is your goddamn jobs you farking asshats! "The President was uppity" does not imply that it's okay to (probably) screw over the US economy!


clarified
 
2013-01-01 09:07:33 AM  
Oh wait! I get it! It's that song by (Fiscal) Cliff Richard!

/ I get jokes
/ Eventually
 
2013-01-01 09:48:12 AM  

MFAWG: Ambivalence: Oh well, they did absolutely everything they could to avoid this. Everything except, you know, working and compromising and putting the interests of the country before their own ideology.

They sure did talk a lot though. And they blamed everyone but themselves. And they sighed and wailed and gashed their teeth. I don't know what more we could have asked of them.

They could have torn their clothing from their bodies while wailing 'The end is nigh, the black man got a second term'.

Because that's really what wrenched up the works: the Tea Party and a large portion of the GOP had absolutely NO farkING PLAN in place for Obama's reelection.

These are stupid, stupid people we're dealing with here, and the sooner we stop taking them seriously the better off we're going to be.


Hell, they had no plan for what they'd do if THEY won the election. They were just going to figure it out later, or something.

You'd think that if the Koch's wanted to buy a government they'd at least get one that wasn't inept.
 
2013-01-01 09:54:32 AM  
It all starts again in two months? Screw that, go over the cliff, wait a week and submit a bill encompassing Obama's original plan. Make sure the military bases down South start to close and put the fear of God into those arrogant schmucks. The repubs are going to shut down the government every two months for the next four years unless we do something about it now.

With a little bit of luck the sight of people starving and rioting in Brownbeck's Kansas should put an end to this ridiculousness once and for all. Taxes are the price we pay for civilization. Don't pay your taxes, go to farking jail.
 
2013-01-01 10:34:39 AM  
Print the jumbo coin, Mr. president. This lurching from one fake crisis to the next has to stop.
 
2013-01-01 10:52:45 AM  
According to
 the Congressional Budget Office, the last-minute fiscal cliff deal reached by congressional leaders and President Barack Obama cuts only $15 billion in spending while increasing tax revenues by $620 billion-a 41:1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts.

Better off going over the cliff.
 
2013-01-01 11:10:11 AM  

SlothB77: According to
 the Congressional Budget Office, the last-minute fiscal cliff deal reached by congressional leaders and President Barack Obama cuts only $15 billion in spending while increasing tax revenues by $620 billion-a 41:1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts.

Better off going over the cliff.



We have to pay for George W Bush's reckless fiscal policy, tax cuts, Medicare part D, and unpaid for wars somehow. All of that wasn't free, in case you didn't know. Or did you believe Bush when he said trickle down voodoo economics would somehow magically pay for it all?

The chickens have come home to roost. Deal with it.
 
2013-01-01 11:12:44 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: zappaisfrank: I would recommend the bootstrappy "Makers VS. Takers" Conservatives stop reading "Atlas Shrugged" and switch to a detailed History Of The French Revolution, because it's a far more accurate historical precedent to what is about to happen unless shiat changes than anything Ayn Rand puked forth.

The similarities are striking.

"Whaaaaahhh!!! Gimme gimme gimme or I'll kill you."

LOL. You and the other deadbeats are too farking lazy to wipe the Cheetos off your mugs and clamber out of your basements to look for a job, much less start a revolution.

You'll do nothing. Enjoy the cheetos.


What jobs? And how about those wages that have been falling for over 3 decades?
 
2013-01-01 11:32:52 AM  

Goodfella: SlothB77: According to
 the Congressional Budget Office, the last-minute fiscal cliff deal reached by congressional leaders and President Barack Obama cuts only $15 billion in spending while increasing tax revenues by $620 billion-a 41:1 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts.

Better off going over the cliff.


We have to pay for George W Bush's reckless fiscal policy, tax cuts, Medicare part D, and unpaid for wars somehow. All of that wasn't free, in case you didn't know. Or did you believe Bush when he said trickle down voodoo economics would somehow magically pay for it all?

The chickens have come home to roost. Deal with it.


And on top of that, Obama's previous offer was a 1:10 ratio of tax increases to spending cuts. The GOP rejected that offer out of hand, and are now forced to either accept a deal with a 413:10 ratio or reject it and end up getting involuntarily saddled with a deal that has a higher ratio.

img713.imageshack.us
 
2013-01-01 11:42:47 AM  
"Just cut spending" is the new "some of my best friends are.." and "I only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants".. A nice little thing to say that deflects the real issue at hand.
 
2013-01-01 11:43:00 AM  

Debeo Summa Credo: "Whaaaaahhh!!! Gimme gimme gimme or I'll kill you."
LOL. You and the other deadbeats are too farking lazy to wipe the Cheetos off your mugs and clamber out of your basements to look for a job, much less start a revolution.
You'll do nothing. Enjoy the cheetos.


A lot of people aren't naturally self-centered, paranoid narcissists who love money above all else, so it's a little harder to get them fired up about perceived injustice. I guess you don't have that problem.
 
2013-01-01 12:06:42 PM  

safetycap: zappaisfrank:
Ayn Rand was an unschooled moron who pulled her "philosophy" out of her ass to pay her bills and make a name for herself because she was a first class narcissist and loved the attention being "shocking" for her day generated.


[i651.photobucket.com image 850x564]

You are my new hero


You're welcome, and thanks for the graphic! I know just the place to post it, too....heh heh...
 
2013-01-01 12:32:08 PM  

Infernalist: Kome: heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.

Who would use a Bachmann based measurement? That's just retarded.

Technically, 100 Bachmanns equal one Perry. 100 Perries equals one Palin. There is no unit higher than the Palin, so we're forced to use MegaPalin.


What about the limbaugh/santorum parrabala? How does that factor in to our measurements?
 
2013-01-01 12:35:39 PM  

Funk Brothers: Scaevola: Funk Brothers: Good.

Boehner should tell Obama there will be no deal unless the tax increases on the rich are taken off the table. Why should we be raising taxes on the rich and let those who are not rich a free pass?

I live with my mom. The Tea Party is ruining this country. Or, I should say, the Koch brothers are ruining this country, while hiding behind a bunch of white evangelical rubes.

Obama is ruining this country. Haven't you seen all the warning signs? Obama was born on the Kingdom of Hawaii. The Kingdom of Hawaii was ruled by a Monarchy/Dictator. This tax increase on the rich is leading us towards the road to dictatorship under Obama and towards a unprecedented third term.

When you have companies such as Hobby Lobby or other small businesses employing over 50 workers resisting certain parts of the healthcare law over religious freedom, something is wrong in this country.


I knew I resisted putting you on ignore for a reason. That's some pretty rich cake.
 
2013-01-01 01:37:33 PM  
Throw the bums out!
 
2013-01-01 03:13:30 PM  
I miss the TV show House.

/Sure the last couple of seasons sucked, but still.
 
2013-01-01 04:08:33 PM  

TalenLee: Smelly McUgly: I would claim that the GOP is pretty much like the Legion, but that seems like it would be an insult to the Legion.

The GOP's most effusive fevered dreams of the lovechild of Ronald Reagan and Ayn Rand raised by Rush and Hannity and trained by Schwarzenegger would still not be as badass as Lanius.

/finished it yesterday.
//feel bad about siding with NCR, but c'mon, bear flag.


That's what I love about New Vegas (and Skyrim and other Bethesda games), the different factions that aren't simply "the good guys" and "the bad guys."  All of the major factions can make some claim that they stand for peace and prosperity, or the rule of law, or freedom, or some other respectable goal.  Even the Legion, for all the misogyny and cruelty, can make the claim that life would be better under their rule (at least for male non-slaves) than the current situation.

When I play those games I really agonize over which faction to support, if any.  In other computer role-playing games, about the only choice is to be good or to be evil.
 
2013-01-01 04:10:55 PM  

Blathering Idjut: Print the jumbo coin, Mr. president. This lurching from one fake crisis to the next has to stop.


Jumbo coin?
www.bbc.co.uk
Sorry, we don't take ningis here.
 
2013-01-01 05:55:06 PM  

ciberido: Sorry, we don't take ningis here.


I can't blame you, who wants to fiddle around with small change.
 
2013-01-01 06:47:07 PM  

CthulhuCalling: [images.uulyrics.com image 500x439]

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Thanks for the reminder - will now go dig out & listen to 'cliffs of dover'.
 
2013-01-01 07:42:10 PM  

AirForceVet: Isn't this great!?! The Tea Party has won the day by limiting government all at once.  This reminds me of a famous line or two from Shakespeare's MacBeth.

All my pretty ones?
Did you say all? O hell-kite! All?
What, all my pretty chickens and their dam
At one fell swoop?

Say hello to cuts in defense like military benefits and corporate welfare as well as in social services like food stamps and health care for the elderly and disabled.

/I didn't vote Tea Party nor Grover Norquist, so don't blame me.


It's a good start.

Government has to be reduced somehow. If this is what it takes to get through Congress and the President's thick skulls, fine by me.
 
2013-01-02 12:22:28 AM  

DORMAMU: Infernalist: Kome: heap: iaazathot: Wow, I mean WOW! How stupid do you have to be to do what the Republicans are doing?

the fist step to answering this question is arriving at a common measurement or unit of stupidity.

43 MegaPalins would be my guess, but i could see others opting for a Perry or Bachmann based measurement.

Who would use a Bachmann based measurement? That's just retarded.

Technically, 100 Bachmanns equal one Perry. 100 Perries equals one Palin. There is no unit higher than the Palin, so we're forced to use MegaPalin.

What about the limbaugh/santorum parrabala? How does that factor in to our measurements?


Basic deci-, deca- metrics. Limbaugh is one Deca-Bachmann/Deci-Perry, and Santorum is one Deca-Perry/Deci-Palin.
 
2013-01-02 07:04:12 PM  
Ta-da!
 
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