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2012-12-31 04:58:16 PM  

Somacandra: StopLurkListen: Did five times as many couples get married since 1991? Of course not. I agree with everything you said, though. The five-fold drop in violent crime is a welcome but puzzling development.

You're right--its indeed puzzling. But its not off-topic. It just goes to show that tax policy is just one of many factors that influence the social fabric. Without being able to quantify the effects of tax credits and program cuts its difficult to know what kinds of decisions will lead to productive outcomes--and of course there are always external and international factors too. Maybe that is part of why politicians give "principles" as their answer to why they vote a certain way. And of course self-interest in terms of re-elections. The nitty-gritty of figuring out how best to craft tax and other socioeconomic policy in ways that are consistent with sets of visionary principles is just not sexy.


Not puzzling at all. Legalized abortion + 18 years = rapidly falling crime rates.
 
2012-12-31 04:58:51 PM  

Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.


The social contract is special. Otherwise, you may have been an orphan dependent on the government.

Oh, wait...
 
2012-12-31 04:58:59 PM  
Ehh, the cutoff amount means little. It's just a new benchmark for the Tax Accountant to achieve and they'll all be scurrying around finding new ways to redefine their incomes so it won't apply to them. Goddamn shell game. And we're PAYING for this farking show?
 
2012-12-31 04:59:29 PM  

Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.


If you don't agree with the social contract, you can easily get the fark out and go live somewhere else. Perhaps we can set up a Exchange Program with Guatemala or Honduras. You take our ungrateful selfish spoiled pricks who don't want to be a part of America and we take a few of your desperate hardworking folk.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me!

We'll send you some selfish pricks in return.
 
2012-12-31 04:59:56 PM  

bartink: Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.

Ah, so this is a more sophisticated version of "fark you I've got mine".

Got it.


No. If the government demanded 99% because they're the ones protecting you, it would be wrong, I think you can agree. This is an argument of degree. (Now with MOTIONsenseTM Technology!)
 
2012-12-31 05:00:55 PM  

Kuroshin: Great_Milenko: Wolf Blitzer just announced on TV that the House of Representatives has adjourned and will not reconvene.

Assholes.

Anything to make the n*gger look bad, right Bohner?

Except that this actually makes the Dems look better by comparison.  Instead of bothering to vote for anything at all, they decided to just pack up and go home.


True, but they're still living in the bubble where they can say with a straight face that this is all the President's fault.
 
2012-12-31 05:00:57 PM  

CokeBear: StopLurkListen: Going kinda off-topic here (but what else is new, hello Fark) -- violent crime has dropped so far and so fast that it's impossible to ascribe it to any one factor. Did five times as many couples get married since 1991? Of course not. I agree with everything you said, though. The five-fold drop in violent crime is a welcome but puzzling development.

[www.motherjones.com image 388x277]

Freakonomics figured this one out already. Roe vs Wade + 18 years = 1991.


That's very controversial.

One theory for it is the banning of lead, particularly in gasoline. Lead poisoning results in poor impulse control and violent behavior.

But like balancing the budget, the answer probably is in a lot of factors acting together.
 
2012-12-31 05:01:54 PM  
No reason to raise taxes on the rich, none. Makes no dent.

But.... gets Obama and Democrats tons of votes, because their worshipers are stupid, vengeful people.

All this is about, votes. More and more idiots vote Democrat, and they breed faster, means liberal politicians stay rich.
 
2012-12-31 05:02:12 PM  

djkutch: Active introvert: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

The combined income of my sister and her husband is around 260K. My sister is a school teacher at a private school teaching 1st graders. Her husband works for a company that provides floor sealants for industrial floors, he's a supervisor. They work very hard and both have had their jobs for over 10 years. These people are not the 1%.These people aren't rich. These are hard working Americans who work hard for their money and while they live comfortably, they EARNED IT. Why should they pay more so entitalment programs to "help" those who don't wish to work can continue?

It's only like 3.0% for the the 10K above $260K. So, $3K? That will break them? I find it difficult to believe.


Check your math: 3.0% of $10,000 is actually $300. Unfortunately, people don't understand the marginal tax brackets and think that once they reach a certain threshold, their entire income is taxed at the higher rate. This is an ignorance that the GOP plays on.
 
2012-12-31 05:03:28 PM  

Active introvert: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

The combined income of my sister and her husband is around 260K. My sister is a school teacher at a private school teaching 1st graders. Her husband works for a company that provides floor sealants for industrial floors, he's a supervisor. They work very hard and both have had their jobs for over 10 years. These people are not the 1%.These people aren't rich. These are hard working Americans who work hard for their money and while they live comfortably, they EARNED IT. Why should they pay more so entitalment programs to "help" those who don't wish to work can continue?


You're pissing and moaning about someone else's 2-3% tax increase on the 10k they bring in over the $250k cap for families? $200-300 max? Jesus Christ, I should be suicidal then.

And that's BEFORE they take into consideration any deductions. They don't give to charity? Pay a mortgage? Have kids? Have a 529 plan for those kids that means they get a big break from the State?
 
2012-12-31 05:04:12 PM  
Every single one of these GOP assholes should automatically be thrown out of office at midnight. There is no larger pile of shiat in US than the current GOP.
 
2012-12-31 05:04:36 PM  

Active introvert: The combined income of my sister and her husband is around 260K. My sister is a school teacher at a private school teaching 1st graders. Her husband works for a company that provides floor sealants for industrial floors, he's a supervisor. They work very hard and both have had their jobs for over 10 years. These people are not the 1%.These people aren't rich. These are hard working Americans who work hard for their money and while they live comfortably, they EARNED IT. Why should they pay more so entitalment programs to "help" those who don't wish to work can continue?


So that when your brother in law gets laid off, or your sister has a stroke and can't work anymore, there will be a safety net for them so that they won't have to go live in their Beamer.
 
2012-12-31 05:05:11 PM  

vrax: Every single one of these GOP assholes should automatically be thrown out of office at midnight. There is no larger pile of shiat in US than the current GOP.


Senate GOP was at least willing to work for a deal.  It's the House GOP that's the real problem at the moment.
 
2012-12-31 05:05:19 PM  

djkutch: Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.

The social contract is special. Otherwise, you may have been an orphan dependent on the government.

Oh, wait...


The government only claims the child if the people say it can. If the government declared all children wards of the state, I suppose they could exact everything. How far from absolute is the ruling class' power now? I don't like it. You're welcome to approve of the government spending on whatever they want if you like.
 
2012-12-31 05:05:21 PM  

Active introvert: I'm sure you are since it's not your money. It's your sisters.


Ah but what if she lives with you rent free while complaining about how her and her husband,who doesn't have a place to live but own 3 semis,2 motorcycles and they constantly buy electronics,just can't afford to pay anymore taxes. They literally pay no bills since they don't have a place to live. Last year they make around $260k. Also they consider renting a place to be a waste of money. It's bewildering considering the budget I have to work with.
 
2012-12-31 05:05:30 PM  

Thunderpipes: No reason to raise taxes on the rich, none. Makes no dent.

But.... gets Obama and Democrats tons of votes, because their worshipers are stupid, vengeful people.

All this is about, votes. More and more idiots vote Democrat, and they breed faster, means liberal politicians stay rich.


Go home, Mitt. You're drunk.
 
2012-12-31 05:05:33 PM  

vrax: Every single one of these GOP assholes should automatically be thrown out of office at midnight. There is no larger pile of shiat in US than the current GOP.


But we love assholes! We must, we voted them back in to office.

/who says the GOP isn't a bit ghey?
 
2012-12-31 05:08:54 PM  

Wangiss: djkutch: Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.

The social contract is special. Otherwise, you may have been an orphan dependent on the government.

Oh, wait...

The government only claims the child if the people say it can. If the government declared all children wards of the state, I suppose they could exact everything. How far from absolute is the ruling class' power now? I don't like it. You're welcome to approve of the government spending on whatever they want if you like.


And, unicorns could fly out of all our butts.
 
2012-12-31 05:09:08 PM  

A Terrible Human: Ah but what if she lives with you rent free


Then you're the sucker in this picture
 
2012-12-31 05:09:17 PM  

Infernalist: Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.

If you don't agree with the social contract, you can easily get the fark out and go live somewhere else. Perhaps we can set up a Exchange Program with Guatemala or Honduras. You take our ungrateful selfish spoiled pricks who don't want to be a part of America and we take a few of your desperate hardworking folk.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me!

We'll send you some selfish pricks in return.


Easily? Do you really believe that? How easily? I can't force my citizenship on people of another country. I can't even choose where to reside of my own accord, and I'm not near any border. Do you know any definition of tyranny? I think forcing the people to pay for our foreign wars is immoral and should stop. I think the federal government should take less so states can take more and we can make more of our own choices.

I'm definitely not a spoiled prick. I'm middle class; I work 40 hours a week. I have a family. I just don't think Washington is doing it right. How can anyone on a day like today? (WRONG!!1! Moar Government!!!)
 
2012-12-31 05:09:56 PM  
EnviroDude:
Vegan Meat Popsicle: That said, fark compromise. The republicans want something from a position of nothing after spending four years of doing nothing. Fark those guys right in the nostril. Americans spoke about what they want and it's nothing that the republicans are offering. They can either put on some big boy pants, suck it up and do what the country wants done or they can focus on driving themselves even deeper into obscurity.
For two of the aforementioned four years, the democrats were in charge of the house. They were also in charge of the Senate. And for two periods totaling well less than ½ of one of those years (from the months-delayed seating of Al Franken to the death of Ted Kennedy [most of which the Senate was in recess for anyway ― not to mention that Kennedy's final illness kept him from voting for those last few weeks before his passing], and again from the appointment of Paul Kirk to the election of Scott Brown), they had a filibuster proof majority when you added the left leaning independents that caucused with the democrats yet neglected to take into account the right-leaning Blue Dogs that caucused with the GOP.

/FT4Y
 
2012-12-31 05:10:54 PM  
The GOP isn't capable of putting together a bill that even they would agree to. They can't even negotiate with themselves. Keep this in mind when people try to convince you both sides are equally to blame. Obama offered compromise, the GOP did not. End of story.
 
2012-12-31 05:11:31 PM  

Wangiss: How can anyone on a day like today? (WRONG!!1! Moar Government!!!)


The government is utterly failing to function at all and you think what we need is for it to work even worse?  You're special.
 
2012-12-31 05:11:34 PM  

Wangiss: I'm definitely not a spoiled prick. I'm middle class; I work 40 hours a week.


So part time huh?

When you've got employees in 7 countries and systems that never shut down, come wine to me. Until then STFU you self entitled prick.
 
2012-12-31 05:12:14 PM  

djkutch: Wangiss: djkutch: Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.

The social contract is special. Otherwise, you may have been an orphan dependent on the government.

Oh, wait...

The government only claims the child if the people say it can. If the government declared all children wards of the state, I suppose they could exact everything. How far from absolute is the ruling class' power now? I don't like it. You're welcome to approve of the government spending on whatever they want if you like.

And, unicorns could fly out of all our butts.


Dude, have you ever had that? Tijuana is a heck of a place.
 
2012-12-31 05:12:16 PM  

COMALite J: yet neglected to take into account the right-leaning Blue Dogs that caucused with the GOP.


And the "independents" like Lieberman who said "count me with the Dems for the purposes of tallying this majority but I will march lockstep with the GOP in every vote"
 
2012-12-31 05:12:29 PM  

GAT_00: vrax: Every single one of these GOP assholes should automatically be thrown out of office at midnight. There is no larger pile of shiat in US than the current GOP.

Senate GOP was at least willing to work for a deal.  It's the House GOP that's the real problem at the moment.


OK, at midnight we just throw the Senate GOP out and send the House GOP to the gallows. There, fair and balanced.
 
2012-12-31 05:12:43 PM  

shower_in_my_socks: The GOP isn't capable of putting together a bill that even they would agree to. They can't even negotiate with themselves. Keep this in mind when people try to convince you both sides are equally to blame. Obama offered compromise, the GOP did not. End of story.


You would think that they could at least pass SOMETHING, anything at all, just so that they could point to it later as Americans rage and say "see, we tried, but you know those Libs...". But they can't.  They can't even do that.
 
2012-12-31 05:13:17 PM  

GAT_00: Wangiss: How can anyone on a day like today? (WRONG!!1! Moar Government!!!)

The government is utterly failing to function at all and you think what we need is for it to work even worse?  You're special.


GAT, go troll someone else.
 
2012-12-31 05:13:54 PM  

Active introvert: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

The combined income of my sister and her husband is around 260K. My sister is a school teacher at a private school teaching 1st graders. Her husband works for a company that provides floor sealants for industrial floors, he's a supervisor. They work very hard and both have had their jobs for over 10 years. These people are not the 1%.These people aren't rich. These are hard working Americans who work hard for their money and while they live comfortably, they EARNED IT. Why should they pay more so entitalment programs to "help" those who don't wish to work can continue?


In my State ( esp. in my County), these people would be considered rich.

/ then again, my State is pretty much the " Appalachia" of the West Coast...
 
2012-12-31 05:14:13 PM  

rohar: Wangiss: I'm definitely not a spoiled prick. I'm middle class; I work 40 hours a week.

So part time huh?

When you've got employees in 7 countries and systems that never shut down, come wine to me. Until then STFU you self entitled prick.


Oh, I get it. You have some kind of complex.
 
2012-12-31 05:14:23 PM  

Wangiss: I'm definitely not a spoiled prick


The "Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow" nature of your arguments suggests otherwise.
 
2012-12-31 05:14:55 PM  

Thunderpipes: No reason to raise taxes on the rich, none. Makes no dent.

But.... gets Obama and Democrats tons of votes, because their worshipers are stupid, vengeful people.

All this is about, votes. More and more idiots vote Democrat, and they breed faster, means liberal politicians stay rich.


IIRC, when it was only an increase on people earning over $1 million, that would have equaled 3% of the annual deficit. I'm not sure if the rates are the same, but there will be a lot more people affected by it. 3% is a decent-sized dent. Far far more than some of the idiotic proposed cuts such as NPR and PBS.
 
2012-12-31 05:15:04 PM  

Wangiss: Infernalist: Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.

If you don't agree with the social contract, you can easily get the fark out and go live somewhere else. Perhaps we can set up a Exchange Program with Guatemala or Honduras. You take our ungrateful selfish spoiled pricks who don't want to be a part of America and we take a few of your desperate hardworking folk.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me!

We'll send you some selfish pricks in return.

Easily? Do you really believe that? How easily? I can't force my citizenship on people of another country. I can't even choose where to reside of my own accord, and I'm not near any border. Do you know any definition of tyranny? I think forcing the people to pay for our foreign wars is immoral and should stop. I think the federal government should take less so states can take more and we can make more of our own choices.

I'm definitely not a spoiled prick. I'm middle class; I work 40 hours a week. I have a family. I just don't think Washington is doing it right. How can anyone on a day like today? (WRONG!!1! Moar Government!!!)


You're adorable.
 
2012-12-31 05:16:36 PM  

unlikely: Wangiss: I'm definitely not a spoiled prick

The "Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow" nature of your arguments suggests otherwise.


"Entitled" is when you demand the sweat of another man's brow. I pay my taxes. I'd gladly pay a higher rate to my state if it asked. The federal government should diminish. They're the ones blowing up people.
 
2012-12-31 05:16:55 PM  
Well, it's more of a downward slope than a cliff, anyway.

At least we'll starting whittling down this debt.
 
2012-12-31 05:17:13 PM  

Infernalist: Wangiss: Infernalist: Wangiss: bartink: Wangiss: The government loves entitlements because they can always adjust the price after the fact.

What does that mean?

If you got money from the government, your levied debt of gratitude and its monetary component can increase at the whim of legislators because you supposedly bought into the social contract. My parents were on welfare. As an adult, I will be reminded of this by spend-moar types who believe I owe the government for that. Never mind that children can't enter contracts. The social contract is special.

If you don't agree with the social contract, you can easily get the fark out and go live somewhere else. Perhaps we can set up a Exchange Program with Guatemala or Honduras. You take our ungrateful selfish spoiled pricks who don't want to be a part of America and we take a few of your desperate hardworking folk.

"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me!

We'll send you some selfish pricks in return.

Easily? Do you really believe that? How easily? I can't force my citizenship on people of another country. I can't even choose where to reside of my own accord, and I'm not near any border. Do you know any definition of tyranny? I think forcing the people to pay for our foreign wars is immoral and should stop. I think the federal government should take less so states can take more and we can make more of our own choices.

I'm definitely not a spoiled prick. I'm middle class; I work 40 hours a week. I have a family. I just don't think Washington is doing it right. How can anyone on a day like today? (WRONG!!1! Moar Government!!!)

You're adorable.


Thanks, I like you, too.
 
2012-12-31 05:17:30 PM  
Over the cliff we go...

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2012-12-31 05:18:18 PM  

make me some tea: At least we'll starting whittling down this debt non-government savings.

 
2012-12-31 05:18:20 PM  

make me some tea: Well, it's more of a downward slope than a cliff, anyway.

At least we'll starting whittling down this debt.


Well, this'll definitely do that. I'm actually quite pleased that the cliff thing is going to happen. This is going to put a sizable dent in the deficit and bring it down to a reasonable level.
 
2012-12-31 05:18:24 PM  
This thread is goddamn bonkers.
 
2012-12-31 05:18:39 PM  

rohar: Wangiss: I'm definitely not a spoiled prick. I'm middle class; I work 40 hours a week.

So part time huh?

When you've got employees in 7 countries and systems that never shut down, come wine to me. Until then STFU you self entitled prick.


Delegation.
cf. Micromanagement.


Free advice: If you want to remain in business live, don't expand your business.
 
2012-12-31 05:18:44 PM  

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"Hey America, go fark yourself"

 
2012-12-31 05:19:03 PM  

Wangiss: unlikely: Wangiss: I'm definitely not a spoiled prick

The "Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow" nature of your arguments suggests otherwise.

"Entitled" is when you demand the sweat of another man's brow. I pay my taxes. I'd gladly pay a higher rate to my state if it asked. The federal government should diminish. They're the ones blowing up people.


You're thinking of 'self-entitled.'

You sound Randian.
 
2012-12-31 05:19:09 PM  

rohar: thenewmissus: TofuTheAlmighty: A deal that doesn't obviate the debt limit, gains a pathetic $800 billion in revenue, and takes an axe to Social Security (which is practically irrelevant to the deficit).

Obama is the worst poker player alive.

I hate to admit it, but I agree with you. I would have rather seen us go off the cliff and come back with DOD cuts and some Medicare cuts and tax rate increase. I voted for Obama bit I was hoping he would be tougher in negotiations. Republicans would get the blame for it anyway so why compromise on key issues like SS?

/IMHO

Ok, I'll bite. What is currently in the works that would affect SS? The republicans in the senate ceded that change late last night. It was off the table. Something change in the past hour?


Sorry for the late catch up. My husband had a doctor appt (at VA hospital 50+ miles away). I didn't know that they had come to an agreement regarding SS.
 
2012-12-31 05:19:18 PM  

vrax: Every single one of these GOP assholes should automatically be thrown out of office at midnight. There is no larger pile of shiat in US than the current GOP.


Except a collection of your posts in physical form.
 
2012-12-31 05:19:19 PM  
So these pukes in the House cause this whole thing a year ago, and when a deal is brought to the table, they're not even going to bother to vote tonight?

They all need to be ousted.
 
2012-12-31 05:20:17 PM  

Forbidden Doughnut: Active introvert: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

The combined income of my sister and her husband is around 260K. My sister is a school teacher at a private school teaching 1st graders. Her husband works for a company that provides floor sealants for industrial floors, he's a supervisor. They work very hard and both have had their jobs for over 10 years. These people are not the 1%.These people aren't rich. These are hard working Americans who work hard for their money and while they live comfortably, they EARNED IT. Why should they pay more so entitalment programs to "help" those who don't wish to work can continue?

In my State ( esp. in my County), these people would be considered rich.

/ then again, my State is pretty much the " Appalachia" of the West Coast...


Idaho?

More seriously the anecdote above, if it's even true, is meant to be a sob story. It's not. It's justification for being selfish. We all like money. We all have to pay taxes. Get over yourselves.
 
2012-12-31 05:20:36 PM  

Uranus Is Huge!: Wangiss: unlikely: Wangiss: I'm definitely not a spoiled prick

The "Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow" nature of your arguments suggests otherwise.

"Entitled" is when you demand the sweat of another man's brow. I pay my taxes. I'd gladly pay a higher rate to my state if it asked. The federal government should diminish. They're the ones blowing up people.

You're thinking of 'self-entitled.'

You sound Randian.


I've never read Rand. Any work in particular you recommend?
 
2012-12-31 05:20:39 PM  
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