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2012-12-31 02:57:34 PM
Taxes aren't a penalty? WTF is the Obamandate about? How is that enforced? What do they call the tax you are charged for non-compliance? They call it "the penalty."
 
2012-12-31 02:57:41 PM

david_gaithersburg: The cheapest house in MoCo is $350K, and that's for a tear down. So yeah, $250K is low.


Not being able to finance a house on less than a years salary != poor!
 
2012-12-31 02:57:54 PM

Bontesla: Joseph Weisenthal @TheStalwart

Now Corker says the President is holding the deal hostage.


He's talking right now.

CSPAN Video
 
2012-12-31 02:58:05 PM

Betrayal_By_Tyrannosaur: Holy fark my first greenlight. Poop jokes and politics for the win.


Congratulations! :)
It's on fire.
 
2012-12-31 02:58:15 PM
Jack up the rates on capital gains, put a micro-tax on stock transactions, colonize Saturn.
 
2012-12-31 02:58:22 PM

vernonFL: RIP Cliff

[userserve-ak.last.fm image 500x322]


Good lord. That was 26 years ago.
 
2012-12-31 02:58:30 PM

incendi: david_gaithersburg: The cheapest house in MoCo is $350K, and that's for a tear down. So yeah, $250K is low.

No. With an income of $250,000 per year you can afford something called a "car" or "subway tokens" and can commute from somewhere cheaper. Sorry, you're still wrong.


Clearly, you've never been to Montgomery County or tried to commute in any of the surrounding areas, because "subway tokens" would only be useful for a five dollar footlong, and "anywhere cheaper" means a four-hour daily commute.
 
2012-12-31 02:58:38 PM

jfivealive: With an exemption for people who have twins when they already have one kid, and for people who have triplets. Cause that just wouldn't be fair.


Of course. But governments should regulate how many eggs get implanted with IVF (people having 4 children because they don't want to abort etc..) The point of IVF is to have 1 healthy child. Not 4 sick little bastards. Good luck with that one though.
 
2012-12-31 02:58:39 PM

lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.


HOW IN THE HELL is paying LESS then the taxes you paid in the last war "Penalize"?

you just showed us all why we hate conservative american-hating douchebags. Go do your part - and when it's too much.. you'll know you're finally being honorable.
 
2012-12-31 02:58:59 PM
Rebecca Berg @rebeccagberg

In House, Dems holding off judgment 'til Senate votes. "I assume there's liberal angst, but just haven't done whip counts yet," aide says.
 
2012-12-31 02:59:04 PM
I wish that it were possible to have an intelligent, adult conversation about taxation.

The reality is that the income tax rates that people are paying today are at historic lows. You would have to go back to before the outbreak of World War II to find a point in time when tax rates are lower than what they are today. The only exception to this is a brief period in the 1980s when the very highest tax rate was dropped to 29%, but that didn't last long. Tax rates are so low, and so many deductions and exemptions exists that nearly half of American households have no income tax burden at all.

Yet you have a significant number of Americans how scream about how taxation is theft and that their taxes have never been higher. This is idiocy. This is drooling, mind-numbing, kiddy-diddling idiocy. And it's even worse when you consider that most of the "taxation is theft" people are the very first to scream about how we need to invade Insert Brown-Peopled Country Here and complain when their disability checks to cover their Rascal scooters don't show up on time.

Taxes are too low, period. I know people don't like paying them. It would be great if all of the benefits of a modern First World democracy could just be Jesused into existence. But this isn't Fantasyland, and the "anti-tax movement" in America has reached a pinnacle of stupidity; these folks and their families deserve to be openly and ceaselessly mocked.
 
2012-12-31 02:59:17 PM

Brick-House: Emerging you say...

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You shouldn't post personal information like your picture online.
 
2012-12-31 02:59:17 PM

incendi: enry: You can always give away your money so you only earned $249,999

Yeah, wouldn't want that last buck to make your taxes jump.

/If this is what you think, hire a goddamn accountant.
//If he lets you continue thinking that, fire him and hire a competent goddamn accountant.


You're replying to the wrong person. I know how taxes work, and I don't even play a CPA on TV.
 
2012-12-31 02:59:19 PM

Bontesla: @ethanklapper: McConnell: "I can report we've reached an agreement on all the tax issues. We are very, very close."


And that's McConnell. Words. Again, call me when there's a vote.
 
2012-12-31 02:59:21 PM

Cataholic:

Shut up and give 'til it hurts, citizen!


Do what we say and enjoy the bread and milk we pay you for it!
 
2012-12-31 02:59:26 PM

DamnYankees: In every place 100K is quite wealthy. That's the point.


Dare I ask where you think the highest bracket should start?
 
2012-12-31 02:59:28 PM

shower_in_my_socks: david_gaithersburg: The cheapest house in MoCo is $350K, and that's for a tear down. So yeah, $250K is low.


And the cheapest house on Carbon Beach in Malibu is $10M. Won't somebody please think of the "lower middle-class" millionaires living on Carbon Beach? It's a stupid argument. $250k/year is a shiatload of money. I live better than most people I know, in an expensive city, and I make less than half that.


I am not entirely sure why we keep engaging this guy. His math is pretty indicative of the brainfarts of a mongoloid. Because your average mongoloid thinks that the DC region should be the litmus test for tax rates.
 
2012-12-31 02:59:47 PM

Pincy: Britney Spear's Speculum: Jake Steed: Government should do what a responsible American would do in the same situation. STOP spending so much and live within your means, its all very simple.

One thing Americans can do to live within their means is to not have more children than they can afford. The government can discourage this by penalizing people who have more than 2 children.

Newsletter?

Seriously, stop giving tax breaks for having kids.


I have four children and I endorse this message. Please also stop the corn subsidies and the oil subsidies, the killing middle-easterners subsidies, and possibly everything else including Scientific Research. But STOP TAKING THE MONEY as well. We just don't need to do it. If they'd stop taking so much, my state could afford to tax me more and provide the services I actually care about, like emergency services and education.
 
2012-12-31 03:00:09 PM
This goes on of two ways:

1. Obama announces they have a deal, Dems complain that he's gone too far to compromise... and then the House GOP still votes against it. Obama wins. There's no way anyone can sanely argue that Obama didn't give enough.

2. This actually passes and the House GOP votes in favor of tax increases, and their supporters grab the pitchforks and fire up their "2nd Amendment Remedies" machine.
 
2012-12-31 03:00:13 PM

meddleRPI: incendi: david_gaithersburg: The cheapest house in MoCo is $350K, and that's for a tear down. So yeah, $250K is low.

No. With an income of $250,000 per year you can afford something called a "car" or "subway tokens" and can commute from somewhere cheaper. Sorry, you're still wrong.

Clearly, you've never been to Montgomery County or tried to commute in any of the surrounding areas, because "subway tokens" would only be useful for a five dollar footlong, and "anywhere cheaper" means a four-hour daily commute.


Come on, you can get a house in the hood somewhere in PG county for $200k, including the bars on the windows.
 
2012-12-31 03:00:23 PM

CruJones: I'm not wealthy but I invest in the market, as does most everyone I know to some degree. Raising the taxes by 33% will affect future decisions and investments.


Yes it will. It will make people risk adverse, and limit wild speculation that causes bubbles and crashes.

That's a good thing.
 
2012-12-31 03:00:30 PM
 
2012-12-31 03:00:50 PM
Whoa. Just heard that Kim Kardashian is knocked up. So, what were we talking about here, again?
 
2012-12-31 03:01:01 PM
"Fiscal Cliff" is just political propaganda for avoiding enforcing tax-payer responsibility so as not to be perceived as the bad guy tax-man.

It's an attempt to keep TODAY's voters from feeling the burden of the existing (and former) expensive wars, departments and programs.

So really, it's just a play to try to retain political power. (And it's not ONE party's doing either, it's politics in general.)

If people would just realize how much it cost them individually for all the wars, TSA and all the other BS programs where the government oversteps it's bounds, then no one would back them.

But in the end when you pay for something on CREDIT, the bill EVENTUALLY MUST be paid.
 
2012-12-31 03:01:35 PM

Bontesla: Market reacts to possible deal


Exxon took a hit yesterday so it looked like a deal, shooting right back now
 
2012-12-31 03:01:36 PM

enry: You're replying to the wrong person. I know how taxes work, and I don't even play a CPA on TV.


Those are general "you"s, not you in particular. You made your understanding clear.
 
2012-12-31 03:01:40 PM
Or this could be a tactic to say afterword, if this fails, that he was ready to agree and the GOP backed out.

/I always bet on cynical
 
2012-12-31 03:01:42 PM

shower_in_my_socks: This goes on of two ways:

1. Obama announces they have a deal, Dems complain that he's gone too far to compromise... and then the House GOP still votes against it. Obama wins. There's no way anyone can sanely argue that Obama didn't give enough.

2. This actually passes and the House GOP votes in favor of tax increases, and their supporters grab the pitchforks and fire up their "2nd Amendment Remedies" machine.


Yeah, which means a bunch of hicks with rifles and yellow snake flags shouting retarded rhetoric in a Southern Drawl. 2009 called and it wants its "civic action" back.
 
2012-12-31 03:02:01 PM

Pincy: Cataholic: Pincy: lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

It's not a penalty. It's your civic duty. You are doing better than the vast majority of Americans. Stop whining.

Shut up and give 'til it hurts, citizen!

Oh noes, they want to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans back to the same rate it was a few decades ago!!! Surely this will mean the end of civilized society as we know it.


But it would be if we cut spending back to those days, amirite?
 
2012-12-31 03:02:06 PM

incendi: david_gaithersburg: The cheapest house in MoCo is $350K, and that's for a tear down. So yeah, $250K is low.

No. With an income of $250,000 per year you can afford something called a "car" or "subway tokens" and can commute from somewhere cheaper. Sorry, you're still wrong.


Even without that - at $250k a house costing $750k is only 3x your annual salary and should be easily affordable even without the historically low interest rates. With lending rates at under 4% a $1million house is well within reach and will get you a nice pad almost anywhere in the DC metro area, and then you also get a $40k itemized deductable.
 
2012-12-31 03:02:08 PM
I see they may have agreed on what kind of polish to use on the brass fixtures of the Titanic?  Oh, goody for them.
 
2012-12-31 03:02:11 PM
GOP sources admitted there is an added benefit to the Senate's delay: taxes would already be up, so lawmakers could argue that they are voting for tax cuts, as opposed to tax increases.

Jebuz H. Christopher.
 
2012-12-31 03:02:29 PM

incendi: david_gaithersburg: The cheapest house in MoCo is $350K, and that's for a tear down. So yeah, $250K is low.

No. With an income of $250,000 per year you can afford something called a "car" or "subway tokens" and can commute from somewhere cheaper. Sorry, you're still wrong.


Yes. A crumbling infrastructure with less money to repair and you want to put more cars on the road.

Brilliant!

/"liberal thinking": an oxymoron if there ever was one
 
2012-12-31 03:03:03 PM

ProfessorOhki: Yeah... I admit, I sort of want to see what would happen. A halving of the deficit triggered by partisan dickery and an inability to make compromises? That's some popcorn politics.


If only that didn't come with a supersize side of throwing-the-economy-back-into-the-shiatter, I'd join you.
 
2012-12-31 03:03:34 PM
What a show these guys are putting on.
 
2012-12-31 03:03:53 PM

CruJones: The Evil That Lies In The Hearts Of Men: "The deal in the works would return tax rates on families making over $450,000 to 39.6 percent. The tax on estates worth more than $5 million would increase to 40 percent. Unemployment benefits would continue for one year."

What about dividends and capital gains? You know - the way wealthy folk derive their incomes and have been taxed at 15% for the last decade or so.

I'm not wealthy but I invest in the market, as does most everyone I know to some degree. Raising the taxes by 33% will affect future decisions and investments.


You'll stop investing in stocks you think will return a profit?
 
2012-12-31 03:03:59 PM

peterthx: incendi: david_gaithersburg: The cheapest house in MoCo is $350K, and that's for a tear down. So yeah, $250K is low.

No. With an income of $250,000 per year you can afford something called a "car" or "subway tokens" and can commute from somewhere cheaper. Sorry, you're still wrong.

Yes. A crumbling infrastructure with less money to repair and you want to put more cars on the road.

Brilliant!

/"liberal thinking": an oxymoron if there ever was one


DC has a kick-ass metro system.
 
2012-12-31 03:04:04 PM

Bontesla: Market reacts to possible deal


Up 148 points right now.
 
2012-12-31 03:04:06 PM
..of the closet

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2012-12-31 03:04:13 PM

Cataholic: Pincy: lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

It's not a penalty. It's your civic duty. You are doing better than the vast majority of Americans. Stop whining.

Shut up and give 'til it hurts, citizen!


The taxes for the first $250k of income are exactly the same, regardless whether you make more than that or not.  Nobody is being asked or forced to give any more than anybody else up to that point, so nobody can claim any sort of "pain/hurt" at all.  Living in slightly less luxury is not pain (and by "slightly less" I mean "having to wait for that 84" UHDTV to drop in price by $2k, which will happen in ten months or so").

/marginal rates
//how do they work?
 
2012-12-31 03:04:19 PM
assets.diylol.com
 
2012-12-31 03:04:23 PM

coeyagi: Yeah, which means a bunch of hicks with rifles and yellow snake flags shouting retarded rhetoric in a Southern Drawl. 2009 called and it wants its "civic action" back.


Actually, it seems to be taking the form of shooting up Sikh temples and pushing Indians in front of subway trains. Hicks don't really care who they are revenge-killing so long as they have brown skin and don't talk like Muricans.
 
2012-12-31 03:04:25 PM
As usual, the definition of "rich" is "people who make more money than *I* do."
 
2012-12-31 03:04:41 PM

coeyagi: Yeah, which means a bunch of hicks with rifles and yellow snake flags shouting retarded rhetoric in a Southern Drawl.



...While dressed as Revolutionary War reenactors.
 
2012-12-31 03:04:45 PM

Bontesla: Betrayal_By_Tyrannosaur: Holy fark my first greenlight. Poop jokes and politics for the win.

Congratulations! :)
It's on fire.


a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
 
2012-12-31 03:05:51 PM

peterthx: incendi: david_gaithersburg: The cheapest house in MoCo is $350K, and that's for a tear down. So yeah, $250K is low.

No. With an income of $250,000 per year you can afford something called a "car" or "subway tokens" and can commute from somewhere cheaper. Sorry, you're still wrong.

Yes. A crumbling infrastructure with less money to repair and you want to put more cars on the road.

Brilliant!

/"liberal thinking": an oxymoron if there ever was one


Conservative thinking, by definition, rejects new ideas in faor of the status quo.

Basically, conservative thought is largely composed of fondly reminiscing about when gas cost a quarter and darkies knew their place.
 
2012-12-31 03:05:55 PM
Wow you guys.

www.reactiongifs.com
 
2012-12-31 03:06:03 PM

shower_in_my_socks: This goes on of two ways:

1. Obama announces they have a deal, Dems complain that he's gone too far to compromise... and then the House GOP still votes against it. Obama wins. There's no way anyone can sanely argue that Obama didn't give enough.

2. This actually passes and the House GOP votes in favor of tax increases, and their supporters grab the pitchforks and fire up their "2nd Amendment Remedies" machine.


3. The President and the Congress do what is right for the country and replaces the tax code with a system of income credits, which reimburse job creators for every dollar that they make.  The Freedom Index raises to its highest point since the Reagan administration.  Taxbongo cries at the thought that his policies have benefited the country and immediately resigns.
 
2012-12-31 03:06:12 PM

Brick-House: Emerging you say...

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An ass ass?
 
2012-12-31 03:06:25 PM

coeyagi: Waxing_Chewbacca: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

It's a good deal. 250k in NYC is a lot different than, say, Iowa.

/ Moderate D here

You know what's also different in Iowa vs. NYC? The salaries.

Deal with it.

24.media.tumblr.com


/Iowan
//If I moved to Chicago, my salary would triple.
 
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