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oneodd1		2012-12-31 02:30:01 PM

poop?

Shrugging Atlas		2012-12-31 02:30:05 PM

400/450k cutoff now? I wonder how much nothing Dems got in return for that bullshiat.

bugmn99		2012-12-31 02:30:05 PM

Yay! We win!!!

ChipNASA		2012-12-31 02:31:03 PM

"Obama is the GREATEST!!!"

ChuDogg		2012-12-31 02:31:05 PM

Personally I'm rooting for the fiscal cliff.

McCaesar		2012-12-31 02:31:11 PM

Too late for Headline of the Year?

sonnyboy11		2012-12-31 02:31:13 PM

Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

markie_farkie		2012-12-31 02:31:43 PM

RIP, Cliff

Vegan Meat Popsicle		2012-12-31 02:31:44 PM

I wouldn't actually be that concerned about it, but the person in our HR dept. who handles payroll is about as sensible and grounded as a dirigible shaped like a porcupine and I can't really envision any scenario at this point where he gets any part of our federal withholding right for about the first four months of 2013...

NFA		2012-12-31 02:32:14 PM

ChuDogg: Personally I'm rooting for the fiscal cliff.

I'm rooting for the debt ceiling.

SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING!!!

Uranus Is Huge!		2012-12-31 02:32:42 PM

Prediction: Zero people will be pleased with the result.

I hope I'm wrong.

lenfromak		2012-12-31 02:33:21 PM

sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

nekom		2012-12-31 02:33:25 PM

What if the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff had a baby?

groppet		2012-12-31 02:33:42 PM

And by the next election everything these clowns did will be forgotten.

make me some tea		2012-12-31 02:33:59 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Prediction: Zero people will be pleased with the result.

I hope I'm wrong.

It's not a proper compromise until everyone hates it.

19 Kilo		2012-12-31 02:34:09 PM

Taking bets now on all previously mentioned talking points!

3 to 1 he cuts Social Security in exchange for a new assault weapon ban
4 to 1 he ignores everything the Republicans throw at him
5 to 1 he gets the cap raised to 450k, but has to eat a baby wrapped in puppies on CSPAN

Takers?

vernonFL		2012-12-31 02:34:20 PM

RIP Cliff

Waxing_Chewbacca		2012-12-31 02:34:59 PM

sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

It's a good deal. 250k in NYC is a lot different than, say, Iowa.

/ Moderate D here

ChipNASA		2012-12-31 02:35:02 PM

nekom: What if the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff had a baby?

They did.

www.examiner.com

Zasteva		2012-12-31 02:35:10 PM

sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Personally I'd rather see it set at $70k

Wangiss		2012-12-31 02:35:14 PM

lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

It's not a penalty. It's a love bite!

Lupine Chemist		2012-12-31 02:35:24 PM

Shrugging Atlas: 400/450k cutoff now? I wonder how much nothing Dems got in return for that bullshiat.

Breaking GOP orthodoxy and undoing chained SS COLA is your definition of nothing?

sonnyboy11		2012-12-31 02:35:27 PM

lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

I would be hit. Don't have a problem with it. Taxes are not a "penalty".

TofuTheAlmighty		2012-12-31 02:35:34 PM

A deal that doesn't obviate the debt limit, gains a pathetic $800 billion in revenue, and takes an axe to Social Security (which is practically irrelevant to the deficit).

Obama is the worst poker player alive.

PanicMan		2012-12-31 02:35:37 PM

vernonFL: RIP Cliff

[userserve-ak.last.fm image 500x322]

Too soon man too soon!

INeedAName		2012-12-31 02:35:38 PM

groppet: And by the next election everything these clowns did will be forgotten.

One can only hope.

Wangiss		2012-12-31 02:35:49 PM

nekom: What if the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff had a baby?

They're working on it.

ArtosRC		2012-12-31 02:35:56 PM

So, what, are they simply delaying an actual deal for another year, just like they did before?

Vegan Meat Popsicle		2012-12-31 02:36:05 PM

Uranus Is Huge!: Prediction: Zero people will be pleased with the result.

I hope I'm wrong.

To be fair, even though nobody ever says it, that's true of any compromise. A little bit relief, a little bit disappointment.

That said, fark compromise. The republicans want something from a position of nothing after spending four years of doing nothing. Fark those guys right in the nostril. Americans spoke about what they want and it's nothing that the republicans are offering. They can either put on some big boy pants, suck it up and do what the country wants done or they can focus on driving themselves even deeper into obscurity.

sphere of acceptable risk		2012-12-31 02:36:16 PM

sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

But that would include too many in Congress.

WhoopAssWayne		2012-12-31 02:36:55 PM

Glad to see Obama using that whopping mandate he got from his sweeping 51% of the vote.

Peter_Steele		2012-12-31 02:37:16 PM

Is it crowning yet? Or feet first?

ChipNASA		2012-12-31 02:37:32 PM

Wangiss: nekom: What if the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff had a baby?

They're working on it.

*exactly*

Wangiss		2012-12-31 02:37:32 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Uranus Is Huge!: Prediction: Zero people will be pleased with the result.

I hope I'm wrong.

To be fair, even though nobody ever says it, that's true of any compromise. A little bit relief, a little bit disappointment.

That said, fark compromise. The republicans want something from a position of nothing after spending four years of doing nothing. Fark those guys right in the nostril. Americans spoke about what they want and it's nothing that the republicans are offering. They can either put on some big boy pants, suck it up and do what the country wants done or they can focus on driving themselves even deeper into obscurity.

They wrote some budgets, and yet we do not have a budget. Weird.

The Stealth Hippopotamus		2012-12-31 02:37:32 PM

So now they are saying zero cuts? What's the point? The "millionaires and billionaires tax" isn't half a drop in the bucket!
Damn, we really are doomed.

Lupine Chemist		2012-12-31 02:37:34 PM

lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

It really doesn't matter at those levels. Seriously at the $450k cutoff it's a couple thousand dollars. I'm sorry but on almost 40 grand a month gross, a couple hundred a month isn't a huge hit.

Shrugging Atlas		2012-12-31 02:37:37 PM

OK, so if the 400/450k came at the cost of UI extension and no revenue cuts, I think I can tolerate that.

Of course the House Republicans won't, so off the cliff we go!

Atillathepun		2012-12-31 02:37:56 PM

lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

You'd only be taxed 3% more on what you make above $250,000. If you make enough above $250,000 that it makes a noticeable impact, then you are NOT just "moderately" successful.

ProfessorOhki		2012-12-31 02:37:57 PM

ChuDogg: Personally I'm rooting for the fiscal cliff.

Yeah... I admit, I sort of want to see what would happen. A halving of the deficit triggered by partisan dickery and an inability to make compromises? That's some popcorn politics.

Uranus Is Huge!		2012-12-31 02:38:06 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: Uranus Is Huge!: Prediction: Zero people will be pleased with the result.

I hope I'm wrong.

To be fair, even though nobody ever says it, that's true of any compromise. A little bit relief, a little bit disappointment.

That said, fark compromise. The republicans want something from a position of nothing after spending four years of doing nothing. Fark those guys right in the nostril. Americans spoke about what they want and it's nothing that the republicans are offering. They can either put on some big boy pants, suck it up and do what the country wants done or they can focus on driving themselves even deeper into obscurity.

farkin' right! The compromise shouldn't be the middle point between a reasonable proposal and a derp tsunami.

ChipNASA		2012-12-31 02:38:10 PM

ChipNASA: Wangiss: nekom: What if the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff had a baby?

They're working on it.

*exactly*

a.abcnews.com

Wangiss		2012-12-31 02:38:12 PM

ChipNASA: Wangiss: nekom: What if the debt ceiling and the fiscal cliff had a baby?

They're working on it.

*exactly*

I'm glad you got it.

jjwars1		2012-12-31 02:38:29 PM

lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

Ok!

Granny_Panties		2012-12-31 02:38:39 PM

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GoldSpider		2012-12-31 02:38:50 PM

Waxing_Chewbacca: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

It's a good deal. 250k in NYC is a lot different than, say, Iowa.

/ Moderate D here

Exactly. If only there was a simple way to make the cutoff location-adjusted.

Mrtraveler01		2012-12-31 02:39:01 PM

Wangiss: They wrote some budgets, and yet we do not have a budget. Weird.

When the Democrat-led Senate keeps rejecting your budget plan, you compromise with them.You DON'T double down on stupidity.

DamnYankees		2012-12-31 02:39:18 PM

The GOP is just an incredible bunch of crybabies.

imontheinternet		2012-12-31 02:39:22 PM

ArtosRC: So, what, are they simply delaying an actual deal for another year, just like they did before?

Most likely. Let the Bush tax cuts expire on $250K+, pass some token spending cuts but set them out long enough to have time to repeal or modify them, and pass a kick-the-can measure on the fiscal cliff trigger.

Plus, the debt ceiling will be breached in a few weeks anyway.

Waxing_Chewbacca		2012-12-31 02:39:33 PM

Conservative and libral butt hurt sounds like the health care bill, which was a pretty damn good bill and a wonder that it got passed in this day in age. So I have high hopes.

Hung Like A Tic-Tac		2012-12-31 02:39:36 PM

Lupine Chemist: lenfromak: sonnyboy11: Please do not set it at $400k and up. Stay at $250k. Thx

Yeah, penalize even moderately successful people like me.

It really doesn't matter at those levels. Seriously at the $450k cutoff it's a couple thousand dollars. I'm sorry but on almost 40 grand a month gross, a couple hundred a month isn't a huge hit.

But then I can't buy that ivory back scratcher... :-(

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