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(Daily Mail)   In response to Sandy Hook tragedy, San Francisco vows to protect its students by banning...poetry   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 17
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2012-12-31 08:18:05 PM
4 votes:
Oh, who gives a flying tit?

When I was a teenager, I routinely wrote dark and depressing wharrgarble in notebooks because the guidance counselor was nicer than my math teacher and better at explaining trigonometry. It became something of a game, to see how florid I could get the imagery, and I was by no means the only one who did it. My creative-writing teacher once laughed so hard over a fellow student's poem entitled 'Vampers of my Sole' that she broke a blood vessel and had to be hospitalized. It was about the 'author's boyfriend dumping her before prom in favor of another girl with a bigger rack and she'd really read more Anne Rice than anyone should've. (I was a teenager well before 'Twilight' and have only pity for high-school writing teachers since its' advent.)

The 'notebook-wharrgarble stage' is an accepted part of the teenage-girl metamorphosis and it is no more rare, special or remarkable than caterpillars building cocoons or tadpoles sprouting legs. In order to turn a child brain into an adult one, there's bound to be somewhat of a gooey phase. Teenage boys use socks, teenage girls use notebooks. It is quite similar. At least she wasn't clogging up the Internet with it.
2012-12-31 06:30:04 PM
2 votes:
Thoughtcrime does not entail death. Thoughtcrime IS death.
2012-12-31 04:16:49 PM
2 votes:

tenpoundsofcheese: Dogberry:  I'm okay with over caution that results in a minimal suspension and a follow-up investigation.

suspension for doing what?


Exactly.  If someone saw it and felt it was warranted, perhaps just talking to the girl would have been the logical thing to do?  She didn't do anything that she should be punished for. She had unpopular thoughts and wrote them down. Lots of people purge their emotions that way. There was a time when honest journaling was considered (rightfully) good therapy.
2012-12-31 03:43:40 PM
2 votes:

dopekitty74: Teenagers write all sorts of lame things, draw all sorts of dark or suggestive drawings, and just generally are trying to express how they feel through artistic hobbies. Now we're going to take that away from them too?


I'm not an expert, but I'd think that taking away outlets - every dark thought is punishable, every "scary" drawing is wrong, as well as having less exercise and places for youthful energy may, just may, be why so many of these kids crack.

I remember when I was in 2nd grade or so, I drew the school with bombs placed all over to blow it up, with paths to rescue the few people I liked and get the classroom gerbils out.  My mom found it and asked me why, and I told her my friend and I did that earlier because some people were mean and we wanted to get them back. Something to that effect. I don't even remember what, if anything, happened, probably because I was eight years old and expressing being angry and upset in a child-like way.

And I'm starting to see the merits of not making these shooters into national names and telling the story over and over.  It's not as if we have any great insight on what makes these people snap (the guy from Colorado is actually alive and they seem to have nothing) but when it is in the public consciousness to such an extent, it will make its way into things like poems and the like.
2012-12-31 03:29:02 PM
2 votes:
Sometimes it's for the best.
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2012-12-31 11:39:18 PM
1 votes:

illannoyin: Also, I find it interesting that the generation who grew up railing against big brother has now become the generation of 'sit down, shut up, and don't question government intrusion into your private life'.

San Fran has gone from the Mecca of rebellion and counter-culture to the poster child for intrusive government involvement in the personal lives of it's citizens. The citadel of authoritarian asshats.


/Unless it involves the only two sacraments in the church of leftist ideology
//Sex and drugs


Not so much a left or right thing. Its simply the result of shirking old values like taking responsibility for ones actions and standing up to defend your own community.
Ultimately they need someone to take care of them and the government steps in to be the authoritative, generous, and protective parent.

They'll abide by the authoritarianism until it tells them to straighten up their act and get a haircut.
2012-12-31 11:22:59 PM
1 votes:
Also, I find it interesting that the generation who grew up railing against big brother has now become the generation of 'sit down, shut up, and don't question government intrusion into your private life'.

San Fran has gone from the Mecca of rebellion and counter-culture to the poster child for intrusive government involvement in the personal lives of it's citizens. The citadel of authoritarian asshats.


/Unless it involves the only two sacraments in the church of leftist ideology
//Sex and drugs
2012-12-31 10:45:09 PM
1 votes:
Bed wetters will bed wet.

/never once seen a rich man or bank protect their shiat with signs and zero tolerance policies.
/its always "more guns, guards, and armor" for them.
/if we cared about protecting kids, putting the screws on their creativity is unlikely to work... Just saying.
2012-12-31 07:46:55 PM
1 votes:
The end of the Beat Generation was when poetry died in San Francisco.
2012-12-31 07:40:00 PM
1 votes:

Dogberry: imagine the outcry if nothing had been done and something bad occurred.  I'm okay with over caution that results in a minimal suspension and a follow-up investigation.


Exactly. Just like when you tell an off-color joke at the office and get sent to jail for a few days until we've done an investigation. No harm no foul.

Or are we only allowed to apply this standard of caution you propose to certain groups of people?
2012-12-31 07:08:23 PM
1 votes:
*sniff-sniff*

Smells like shat to me.

*)
2012-12-31 06:53:47 PM
1 votes:
Yeah, see, this is the basic problem I have with 'personal journals' in high school. They have no farking academic value and are inherently unduly intrusive. If the kids want to journal, let them journal, but this is basically the answer to wanting to spy on a student's thoughts without the technology to do it.

/Farkin' creepers.
2012-12-31 06:38:08 PM
1 votes:
You know what would have prevented this? The media not farking lionizing every goddamned mass shooter in history, and treating them like the basic, unimpressive criminals they actually are.

Let them drop out of the non-local news after a couple days like all the other murderers, save for maybe a follow-up a few months later. Giving these asshats some sort of position apart from and above the other ten thousand murderers we get in a year is what they want, and also completely illogical. Obviously you're artificially inflating its appeal to teenagers.
2012-12-31 06:30:52 PM
1 votes:
So much for encouraging kids to express themselves through writing.
2012-12-31 04:21:24 PM
1 votes:
Next they will take away math.  Math enables a shooter to count possible targets, count rounds of ammo, count guns, etc.  Math needs to go.
2012-12-31 01:48:21 PM
1 votes:
They really proved the point of her poem.
2012-12-31 12:03:50 PM
1 votes:
Banning teenage poetry?

I'm totally on board with this.
 
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