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2012-12-31 03:31:14 PM
He saved his ass two years ago by making it to the NFC Championship.  Before that season I thought he'd be fired.
 
2012-12-31 03:31:16 PM
And yet Jim Schwartz lives (so far) to coach again.

*sadly shakes head*
 
2012-12-31 03:45:51 PM
Defense got injured mid-season and was thin and offense was inconsistent. Running game was good. Chicago needs to draft a decent tight end and start drafting the D for the future.
 
2012-12-31 03:50:43 PM

IamKaiserSoze!!!: And yet Jim Schwartz lives (so far) to coach again.

*sadly shakes head*


To be fair, the problem in Detroit is significantly higher up than Schwartz. He is a crap coach, yes. But until the Fords are gone the Lions will always have a crap coach.
 
2012-12-31 03:51:03 PM

epyonyx: Chicago needs to draft a decent tight end


easier said than done.

and start drafting the D for the future.

I am pretty every draft is about drafting for the D and O of the future...
 
2012-12-31 03:52:22 PM
Will cause more problems than it solves at the moment. Our O-Line was the primary issue, not Lovie. I hope we don't waste a bunch of time rebuilding with so few years left in the tank for so many key players.

That being said, Lovie was a class act, and I wish him the best when he finds his new team. There are some ridiculous Bears Fans who've said some asinine things about him since the news broke...

Additionally, his departure may signal a retirement or two from Da Bears, most notably Devin Hester who was visibly torn up about Lovie leaving. It sickens me to see the ignorant comments directed at Devin, mainly regarding his production this past season (which was better than 2008/2009 when he had a TD drought).
 
2012-12-31 03:56:05 PM

bacongood: epyonyx: Chicago needs to draft a decent tight end

easier said than done.

and start drafting the D for the future.

I am pretty every draft is about drafting for the D and O of the future...


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And you can tell you have a good D if they can prevent the other team from scoring too many touchdowns. The O, on the other hand, is only good if they get the ball into the endzone.
 
2012-12-31 03:56:23 PM
YES!!! Lovie was a master of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Seriously, I wanted to shiat myself when they lost two weeks ago to the pack. "It was not a must win game".
 
2012-12-31 03:58:50 PM
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2012-12-31 04:00:08 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: [wchinews.com image 600x488]

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Yes, lets waste another 2-3 years as the system gets installed before we see proper results!
 
2012-12-31 04:06:01 PM
We already have a black Monday thread. We don't need this
 
2012-12-31 04:07:11 PM
This wouldn't suck so much if Lovie was an asshole. He is, as another poster said, a class act.

It's hard to not have players get emotional about a guy they liked playing for. I don't deny the players their emotions.

That being said, we needed a major change. I don't know how that would be able to happen with Lovie staying.

We need someone who can work with Cutler and draft a young qb who can be built into his successor. We need a solid, stable O Line. We need a D Line with a scheme evolved enough to beat the top tier teams. As great a D Line as we have, the major, sore-thumb flaw is that it is easily beatable by top caliber O Lines.

I'll miss Lovie-- I liked that he wasn't a screaming asshole.

We'll see what happens... we may have some shiat years ahead of us in the meantime, but we'll see...
 
2012-12-31 04:09:04 PM

Balchinian: IamKaiserSoze!!!: And yet Jim Schwartz lives (so far) to coach again.

*sadly shakes head*

To be fair, the problem in Detroit is significantly higher up than Schwartz. He is a crap coach, yes. But until the Fords are gone the Lions will always have a crap coach.


And just before the season started they extended his contract another three years. Firing him now would basically be saying "we're as incompetent as he is".
 
2012-12-31 04:10:07 PM
Lovie was a total disaster when it came to in-game decision making. With things like go for it on 4th down, kick FGs, call timeouts, accept penalties and the like he was a complete abomination. Andy Reid also FWIW.

Here's just one example of how dumb Lovie could be from yesterday's game:

1-10-DET20 (10:46) (Shotgun) M.Stafford pass short left to T.Scheffler to DET 27 for 7 yards (G.Hayes).
2-3-DET27 (10:09) (Shotgun) R.Reiff reported in as eligible. M.Leshoure up the middle to DET 25 for -2 yards (L.Briggs). Penalty on DET-J.Backus, Offensive Holding, declined.
3-5-DET25 (9:41) (Shotgun) M.Stafford pass short middle to T.Scheffler to DET 32 for 7 yards (N.Roach).

He gave Detroit 3-5 from their 25 instead of 2-13 from their 17. Detroit must have been thrilled.

Just one small call, but it shows a complete lack of understanding of the game.
 
2012-12-31 04:10:17 PM
I, too, like Lovie as an individual, but when your teams consistently sputter in the second half of the season and fail to make the playoffs, and you cannot beat your biggest rival, it's time for you to go.
 
2012-12-31 04:16:00 PM

DeathByGeekSquad: Jim from Saint Paul: [wchinews.com image 600x488]

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Yes, lets waste another 2-3 years as the system gets installed before we see proper results!


ENJOY the season.
 
2012-12-31 04:19:47 PM

Ed_Severson: I, too, like Lovie as an individual, but when your teams consistently sputter in the second half of the season and fail to make the playoffs, and you cannot beat your biggest rival, it's time for you to go.


Don't forget along with his total inability to make adjustments, he was AWFUL at picking ocs.
 
2012-12-31 04:20:46 PM
Have any of the Dungy disciples done jack shiat with their head coaching opportunities?
 
2012-12-31 04:23:51 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: DeathByGeekSquad: Jim from Saint Paul: [wchinews.com image 600x488]

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Yes, lets waste another 2-3 years as the system gets installed before we see proper results!

ENJOY the season.


I'd enjoy any Bears season if it weren't for a bunch of ignorant Bears Fans screaming about who should be traded/released. Names I've heard over the past 5 years:

Lance Briggs
Matt Forte
Brian Urlacher
Charles Tillman

You get the idea. This happens -every game-, and it's farking pathetic.
 
2012-12-31 04:24:21 PM
As a Bears fan, I feel like they changed their long-term philosophy midstream. The thing about it is that they either needed to clean house a few years ago and take the franchise in a different direction at that time or wait until this is played out while making personnel changes in spots that were completely fixable. Now, you have the worst of both, because you are at back side of your possible championship "window" and chances are pretty good that you're committing to finishing third or fourth in the division for the next few years, especially if you promote any of the braintrusts who are already in the organization.

I think that Lovie would have been fine with some tinkering in operations, personnel, and conditioning programs. My opinion is they used a hatchet when they should have used a scalpel.

Just an opinion, though.
 
2012-12-31 04:25:31 PM

assjuice: Have any of the Dungy disciples done jack shiat with their head coaching opportunities?


Do you really think Lovie's accomplishments don't mount to jack shiat? Mike Tomlin also comes to mind.
 
2012-12-31 04:25:37 PM

assjuice: Have any of the Dungy disciples done jack shiat with their head coaching opportunities?


It's hard to argue with Dungy's methods, though. He has a very effective plan for winning Super Bowls.

1. Have Peyton Manning
2. ????
3. Win Super Bowl
 
2012-12-31 04:26:59 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please


We're gonna need a bigger boat.
 
2012-12-31 04:28:59 PM

redmid17: assjuice: Have any of the Dungy disciples done jack shiat with their head coaching opportunities?

Do you really think Lovie's accomplishments don't mount to jack shiat? Mike Tomlin also comes to mind.


Well Tomlin DID win a Superbowl.

Really, it all comes down to "if you didn't win a SB, did you accomplish anything as a head coach". Some people say yes, some say sort of, some say no. Obviously, we know what assjuice(!) believes.
 
2012-12-31 04:29:40 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please


as a Packer fan I say, yes. please do. oh please oh please oh please....
 
2012-12-31 04:32:05 PM
students.iam.colum.edu
 
2012-12-31 04:32:10 PM

dickfreckle: Jim from Saint Paul: oh please oh please oh please oh please oh please

We're gonna need a bigger boat.


cache.gawker.com

I got the hookup brah!
 
2012-12-31 04:32:53 PM
Once they fired Angelo I knew that Lovie was on the hot seat.
 
2012-12-31 04:33:55 PM

Jim from Saint Paul: redmid17: assjuice: Have any of the Dungy disciples done jack shiat with their head coaching opportunities?

Do you really think Lovie's accomplishments don't mount to jack shiat? Mike Tomlin also comes to mind.

Well Tomlin DID win a Superbowl.

Really, it all comes down to "if you didn't win a SB, did you accomplish anything as a head coach". Some people say yes, some say sort of, some say no. Obviously, we know what assjuice(!) believes.


Lovie has a 60% winning percentage. He's only had one 'bad' season. He's had some underperforming ones for a variety of reasons. Some reasons were his fault. Some reasons were Angelo's fault. Bears didn't exactly have the greatest offensive personnel but Lovie's choice of OCs wasn't exactly inspired.
 
2012-12-31 04:36:20 PM
I might not watch enough football to really know what I'm talking about here - but to my mind the Lions game summarized the issues the Bears have had all season - they've set the stage for good things to happen organically (defensive takeaways, mostly - but also miracle passes to Marshall) - but don't have the offensive setup to actually control the game.

Watching the game is like someone trying to make money by adjusting bets at a casino - trying to take advantage of lucky breaks, but not actually able to make anything happen.

I really felt like a few mid range routes, or some version of a no-huddle offense could have opened up the Bears offense and made them a real threat, as opposed to a team that would periodically string together a few lucky breaks. Again, going back to the Lions game - in the second half the defensive secondary (I think) kept getting into Cutler's face in between plays. How hard would it have been to decide to increase the pace a bit and hurry to get lined up? Why is there an opportunity for the defense to be jawing with our QB for 30 seconds between every play?

As others have said - I like Lovie as a coach, and feel like under him the Bears have developed a lot of great tools - but just end up seeming completely unresponsive the the actual game as it unfolds. Not sure Lovie needs to go if they could come up with an OC that can either come up with better plans during the week or make more decisions on the fly. Cutler could be an entirely adequate quarterback, but he's not going to be the 'leader' they keep wanting him to be. Tell him where to throw the ball, and to keep his mouth shut otherwise.
 
2012-12-31 04:37:12 PM
In a way I'm almost glad we missed the playoffs, even though 10-6 is normally enough to get in (the farking NFC, especially the north, is stacked this year). If Minnesota had lost and the Bears made it in, he might have been given one more year. Urlacher will almost certainly not be returning next season, unless they make a big coaching pick-up, but Briggs and Peppers still have a few more productive years ahead of them, the D-line has a ton of studs, Tillman is getting old but if anything he's playing at his peak right now, he's turned into a much better cover guy and still forces a ton of turnovers. Plus Jennings. It will hurt not having Urlacher, but there are still a ton of pro-bowlers on defense. That won't change with Lovie leaving, at least not for a while.

The problem is of course the offensive line. Webb has to get replaced, he is useless at everything, especially and including run-blocking. The splits for running to the left versus running to the right this year were staggering. We need to draft a quality O-lineman and a legit #2 threat so Marshall doesn't have to take all of the load. Whether it's a TE or a big WR doesn't matter, they need another reliable big man just so Cutler doesn't have to keep forcing it into triple-coverage to Marshall because he's the only one who can make big catches. Bennett's a good speedster though. Hester should be used sparingly just to distract the defense, being the greatest return man of all time doesn't a #3 WR make. Forte is solid, and we overpaid for Bush.

If this were any other division the Bears could probably make the playoffs next year, but MN and GB are both extremely stout teams and the schedule next season looks like murder. 7 games against playoff teams (MNx2, GBx2, WAS, CIN, BAL), plus Dallas and the Giants who very nearly made it, and New Orleans and Pittsburgh, two teams that underperformed this season. The only cupcake games we're going to have are against Cleveland and St. Louis.

Not a good year for a re-build...
 
2012-12-31 04:39:06 PM

Fark It: In a way I'm almost glad we missed the playoffs, even though 10-6 is normally enough to get in (the farking NFC, especially the north, is stacked this year). If Minnesota had lost and the Bears made it in, he might have been given one more year. Urlacher will almost certainly not be returning next season, unless they make a big coaching pick-up, but Briggs and Peppers still have a few more productive years ahead of them, the D-line has a ton of studs, Tillman is getting old but if anything he's playing at his peak right now, he's turned into a much better cover guy and still forces a ton of turnovers. Plus Jennings. It will hurt not having Urlacher, but there are still a ton of pro-bowlers on defense. That won't change with Lovie leaving, at least not for a while.

The problem is of course the offensive line. Webb has to get replaced, he is useless at everything, especially and including run-blocking. The splits for running to the left versus running to the right this year were staggering. We need to draft a quality O-lineman and a legit #2 threat so Marshall doesn't have to take all of the load. Whether it's a TE or a big WR doesn't matter, they need another reliable big man just so Cutler doesn't have to keep forcing it into triple-coverage to Marshall because he's the only one who can make big catches. Bennett's a good speedster though. Hester should be used sparingly just to distract the defense, being the greatest return man of all time doesn't a #3 WR make. Forte is solid, and we overpaid for Bush.

If this were any other division the Bears could probably make the playoffs next year, but MN and GB are both extremely stout teams and the schedule next season looks like murder. 7 games against playoff teams (MNx2, GBx2, WAS, CIN, BAL), plus Dallas and the Giants who very nearly made it, and New Orleans and Pittsburgh, two teams that underperformed this season. The only cupcake games we're going to have are against Cleveland and St. Louis.

Not a goo ...


8 games. Indy made the playoffs too.
 
2012-12-31 04:39:11 PM
Black monday just got blacker.
 
2012-12-31 04:43:51 PM

redmid17: Fark It: In a way I'm almost glad we missed the playoffs, even though 10-6 is normally enough to get in (the farking NFC, especially the north, is stacked this year). If Minnesota had lost and the Bears made it in, he might have been given one more year. Urlacher will almost certainly not be returning next season, unless they make a big coaching pick-up, but Briggs and Peppers still have a few more productive years ahead of them, the D-line has a ton of studs, Tillman is getting old but if anything he's playing at his peak right now, he's turned into a much better cover guy and still forces a ton of turnovers. Plus Jennings. It will hurt not having Urlacher, but there are still a ton of pro-bowlers on defense. That won't change with Lovie leaving, at least not for a while.

The problem is of course the offensive line. Webb has to get replaced, he is useless at everything, especially and including run-blocking. The splits for running to the left versus running to the right this year were staggering. We need to draft a quality O-lineman and a legit #2 threat so Marshall doesn't have to take all of the load. Whether it's a TE or a big WR doesn't matter, they need another reliable big man just so Cutler doesn't have to keep forcing it into triple-coverage to Marshall because he's the only one who can make big catches. Bennett's a good speedster though. Hester should be used sparingly just to distract the defense, being the greatest return man of all time doesn't a #3 WR make. Forte is solid, and we overpaid for Bush.

If this were any other division the Bears could probably make the playoffs next year, but MN and GB are both extremely stout teams and the schedule next season looks like murder. 7 games against playoff teams (MNx2, GBx2, WAS, CIN, BAL), plus Dallas and the Giants who very nearly made it, and New Orleans and Pittsburgh, two teams that underperformed this season. The only cupcake games we're going to have are against Cleveland and St. Louis.

Not a goo ...
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I'm talking about next year, but you're right, this year's schedule was a real ball-breaker. I knew the Bears really weren't a playoff team this year during Seattle's final two drives to close out the 4th quarter and overtime a few weeks ago. The defense was getting pounded all game but somehow kept them out of the endzone until those two long drives to end the game. And what really sucks is that Cutler had a spectacular game-tying drive with that throw to Marshall. But boom, the shiathawks get the ball, move the chains, Urlacher gets hurt, and they make it into the endzone. That was the season right there.
 
2012-12-31 04:47:15 PM

Fark It: In a way I'm almost glad we missed the playoffs, even though 10-6 is normally enough to get in (the farking NFC, especially the north, is stacked this year). If Minnesota had lost and the Bears made it in, he might have been given one more year. Urlacher will almost certainly not be returning next season, unless they make a big coaching pick-up, but Briggs and Peppers still have a few more productive years ahead of them, the D-line has a ton of studs, Tillman is getting old but if anything he's playing at his peak right now, he's turned into a much better cover guy and still forces a ton of turnovers. Plus Jennings. It will hurt not having Urlacher, but there are still a ton of pro-bowlers on defense. That won't change with Lovie leaving, at least not for a while.

The problem is of course the offensive line. Webb has to get replaced, he is useless at everything, especially and including run-blocking. The splits for running to the left versus running to the right this year were staggering. We need to draft a quality O-lineman and a legit #2 threat so Marshall doesn't have to take all of the load. Whether it's a TE or a big WR doesn't matter, they need another reliable big man just so Cutler doesn't have to keep forcing it into triple-coverage to Marshall because he's the only one who can make big catches. Bennett's a good speedster though. Hester should be used sparingly just to distract the defense, being the greatest return man of all time doesn't a #3 WR make. Forte is solid, and we overpaid for Bush.

If this were any other division the Bears could probably make the playoffs next year, but MN and GB are both extremely stout teams and the schedule next season looks like murder. 7 games against playoff teams (MNx2, GBx2, WAS, CIN, BAL), plus Dallas and the Giants who very nearly made it, and New Orleans and Pittsburgh, two teams that underperformed this season. The only cupcake games we're going to have are against Cleveland and St. Louis.

Not a good year for a r ...


Curious, do you think Hester is done as a returner? From watching this season, it seems like he no longer wants to take off upfield at full speed the way he did in prior seasons - instead he gets caught up trying to go sideways, and that just gives the kicking team more time to close him in.

Not sure if I think that's because putting him in as a receiver somehow cuts into his ability as a return man, or if it means he's just got to get his head straight to go back to what was working instead of trying to make an opportunity out of nothing.
 
2012-12-31 04:50:45 PM
Fark It:

The Rams are definitely not a "cupcake" team, and if Richardson gets going, neither are the Browns.

As I said in another thread, how is it that the Patriots seem like they have a stable of tight ends and the Bears can't get one? Also, maybe I'm seeing things, but it appeared that the receivers pretty consistently ran the wrong routes. The offensive line problems were obvious, but for every weakness, there should be a corresponding opportunity. I mean if Marshall is triple-covered, then you should have two guys running free, right? Should...except, going back to what I said before, I don't think a lot of their receivers could get jobs at Starbucks. Bless their hearts.
 
2012-12-31 04:50:46 PM
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2012-12-31 04:55:15 PM

Jster422: Fark It: In a way I'm almost glad we missed the playoffs, even though 10-6 is normally enough to get in (the farking NFC, especially the north, is stacked this year). If Minnesota had lost and the Bears made it in, he might have been given one more year. Urlacher will almost certainly not be returning next season, unless they make a big coaching pick-up, but Briggs and Peppers still have a few more productive years ahead of them, the D-line has a ton of studs, Tillman is getting old but if anything he's playing at his peak right now, he's turned into a much better cover guy and still forces a ton of turnovers. Plus Jennings. It will hurt not having Urlacher, but there are still a ton of pro-bowlers on defense. That won't change with Lovie leaving, at least not for a while.

The problem is of course the offensive line. Webb has to get replaced, he is useless at everything, especially and including run-blocking. The splits for running to the left versus running to the right this year were staggering. We need to draft a quality O-lineman and a legit #2 threat so Marshall doesn't have to take all of the load. Whether it's a TE or a big WR doesn't matter, they need another reliable big man just so Cutler doesn't have to keep forcing it into triple-coverage to Marshall because he's the only one who can make big catches. Bennett's a good speedster though. Hester should be used sparingly just to distract the defense, being the greatest return man of all time doesn't a #3 WR make. Forte is solid, and we overpaid for Bush.

If this were any other division the Bears could probably make the playoffs next year, but MN and GB are both extremely stout teams and the schedule next season looks like murder. 7 games against playoff teams (MNx2, GBx2, WAS, CIN, BAL), plus Dallas and the Giants who very nearly made it, and New Orleans and Pittsburgh, two teams that underperformed this season. The only cupcake games we're going to have are against Cleveland and St. Louis.

Not a good yea ...


I think part of it is the nature of special teams, it's harder to get consistency because a lot of those guys aren't #1 or #2, so there really isn't a core group of guys there like with the defense. They play at the margins, aside from Bowman there aren't really any studs on special teams. Part of it is that Hester is getting older and they do use him too much on offense. If they throttle back on his snaps on offense and Johnny Knox comes back to take some of the load on KOs, and they can click on the rest of the return unit, then he's definitely got a few left in him. He came close this year a couple of times, and the offense still wasn't threatening enough to force tough decisions from the opposition (kick it deep, give him a return, or sacrifice field position to an explosive offense).

I also think punters have gotten better as a whole throughout the league, and he's victimized the rest of the division so many times (multiple returns against DET, MN, and GB throughout his career) that they're all extra cautious. Remember, he did go two full seasons after his first two record-breaking seasons before getting another return TD.

I would hold on to him for another few years as a punt returner solely, unless someone is willing to ridiculously overpay via a good draft pick for him. There's really no one I'd rather have take a shot at a return especially during big games than Hester.
 
2012-12-31 04:58:44 PM

Fark It: I would hold on to him for another few years as a punt returner solely, unless someone is willing to ridiculously overpay via a good draft pick for him. There's really no one I'd rather have take a shot at a return especially during big games than Hester.


Yeah. I know emotions are raw right now, but he really sounded despondent. I don't think it would surprise anyone if he were not in Chicago next year.
 
2012-12-31 05:01:42 PM
Lovie sent the Bears to the superbowl once and the NLCG twice in the last 6 years..
He was their coach for every NFC North championship they have won.
Prior to that they were in the Superbowl only once with Ditka a quarter century ago.. And before Lovie the Bears had won their division only twice since Ditka left.


What are the odds that the Bears will do better than Lovie?

What are the odds that with decisions like this the Bears are a quarter of the way to becoming the Cubs?
 
2012-12-31 05:02:16 PM

KiwDaWabbit: Fark It:

The Rams are definitely not a "cupcake" team, and if Richardson gets going, neither are the Browns.

As I said in another thread, how is it that the Patriots seem like they have a stable of tight ends and the Bears can't get one? Also, maybe I'm seeing things, but it appeared that the receivers pretty consistently ran the wrong routes. The offensive line problems were obvious, but for every weakness, there should be a corresponding opportunity. I mean if Marshall is triple-covered, then you should have two guys running free, right? Should...except, going back to what I said before, I don't think a lot of their receivers could get jobs at Starbucks. Bless their hearts.


RE: cupcake games

http://www.fbschedules.com/nfl-13/2013-chicago-bears-football-schedul e .php

^compared to the rest of that schedule, they're cupcakes. You can make legitimate arguments that almost every one of their opponents will make the playoffs next year, or at least be in the hunt (Philly and Cleveland, probably not though).

And you're absolutely right about his receivers running bad or the wrong routes. And if you watched most of their games, as I did, there were a ton of huge drops, drive-killing, 4th-down producing, TD-taken-away, drops. I would say that half of Cutler's picks were on his receivers, and there were another few from his terrible O-line giving him absolutely nothing to work with. Sure Marshall is triple-covered, but he's going to be triple-covered in the right spot at the right time, and he's still going to make the catch, as opposed to the other guy running free but in the wrong spot, or in the right spot and dropping it. I think Forte was underutilized in the passing game this season too, probably because of his giant contract and injury fears.
 
2012-12-31 05:08:10 PM
Be nice if the Bears could coax Bill Cowher out of retirement.  Won't hold my breath.
 
2012-12-31 05:08:22 PM
mikaloyd:

That pretty much sums up my personal thoughts on the move, which is why I hope they really have something up their sleeve, as in "getting Gruden to come out of retirement is a B- move" up their sleeve.

I'm not holding out hope, obviously.
 
2012-12-31 05:08:34 PM
Hey Lovie! Come to the Raiders! A hella lot easier division to win and you get to unload on Manning twice a year with your defense until he retires.
 
2012-12-31 05:18:44 PM
I like Lovie, but he was on his way out. The Bears need new assistant coaches, and no one would take the job knowing the head coach wasn't staying put. I'd like to see them pick up some decent o-line players too. Hopefully Hester doesn't retire and the defensive line heals up. Wish the team had more depth.
 
2012-12-31 05:23:43 PM

Cheesehead_Dave: [students.iam.colum.edu image 483x774]


I will miss this chart. :-(
 
2012-12-31 05:26:37 PM

HaywoodJablonski: We already have a black Monday thread. We don't need this


And yet no power rankings thread, which means no Jake for Romo yet (c'mon, of the three 50s he's gotta be it).
 
2012-12-31 05:41:19 PM
The only coach I want the Bears to retain is Dave Toub with special teams. That guy is worth every penny.
 
2012-12-31 05:46:06 PM

FriarReb98: HaywoodJablonski: We already have a black Monday thread. We don't need this

And yet no power rankings thread, which means no Jake for Romo yet (c'mon, of the three 50s he's gotta be it).


I dunno. Romo is the only one producing on the Cowboys. 2nd to last in rush offense, defense giving up 29.5ppg in the previous 7 weeks.
In the same span, he's 160/254 63% 15 TD/6INT QB Rating of 99.0 and broke essentially all relevant Cowboys records....HAHAHAH WHO AM  I KIDDING THE JAKE DOESN'T CARE
TRADE HIM TO JACKSONVILLE
WOOOOOO
 
2012-12-31 05:49:29 PM
ITT: The people who assert that parity makes the National Football League great to watch repeatedly shiat on the accomplishments of players and coaches, because "lol lovie smith only got to a super bowl and two conference title game's lol he didn't do anything".
 
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