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2012-12-31 05:23:37 PM  
I might have to leave this asshole country.
 
2012-12-31 05:23:51 PM  
$10 bottle of whiskey, grandpa, net profit, $90.
 
2012-12-31 05:26:10 PM  

badhatharry: I might have to leave this asshole country.


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Maybe you can drink and drive in the UK- wait, maybe Fra-, maybe German- DAMNIT! Maybe Itali- Maybe Somalia! Yeah, that's the ticket!

josephnewton.com
 
2012-12-31 05:28:04 PM  

KrispyKritter: i don't understand why joints that serve don't have a drive home the drunk patrons mobile.


Would you take the driver's job?  If so, how much would you charge to do it?

How do you get a drunk to accept your kind offer?

How many courtesy drivers and cars should a bar have available?

How will taxi drivers feel about this competition?

What do you do with all the drunks' cars left in your parking lot?

Never happen, kiddo.
 
2012-12-31 05:29:21 PM  

badhatharry: I might have to leave this asshole country.


Just drink and drive on your property.
 
2012-12-31 05:29:38 PM  
I'm thinking some troll will sit in his front yard and call in every car that passes by. While, himself will be working on a 12-pack and Doritos.
 
2012-12-31 05:30:36 PM  

lack of warmth: I'm thinking some troll will sit in his front yard and call in every car that passes by. While, himself will be working on a 12-pack and Doritos.


I'm pretty sure that filing a false police report is a crime. Might be mistaken....
 
2012-12-31 05:31:09 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: kwame: BarkingUnicorn: "30 to 40" rewards per year since 2001.  Doesn't seem like a very popular program.

And it's dropping, which seems to be the point of the article.

Nah, the point of the article is to pump it up again.

The program is unusual because it pays for arrest, not for conviction like other crime-stopper programs I've seen.  Cops must be pretty confident of their ability to fabricate evidence.


It seems that it hasn't been promoted that much so many people don't know about it. I have a feeling that this article will change that.
 
2012-12-31 05:33:27 PM  

Sleeping Monkey: And its Socialists who are dividing America?


this county went to obama by over 60%.
al gore wanted that county recounted in 2000.
not socialists obviously, but nosy liberals that like to get all up in your shiat.
 
2012-12-31 05:34:30 PM  

BronyMedic: lack of warmth: I'm thinking some troll will sit in his front yard and call in every car that passes by. While, himself will be working on a 12-pack and Doritos.

I'm pretty sure that filing a false police report is a crime. Might be mistaken....


And how would it be proved that your report was false?
 
2012-12-31 05:35:31 PM  
Do they have to be in Florida? I'm just going to send in a list of Total Farkers and wait for my $100 million dollar check.
 
2012-12-31 05:38:55 PM  
Well, shiat, here's something TFA doesn't mention:

There is a $500 lifetime reward limit.
 
2012-12-31 05:40:17 PM  
I don't care if people drink and drive.I'd say 90% of the cops I know routinely drive drunk.
 
2012-12-31 05:41:00 PM  
I think police departments coud make a ton of money by offering drunk-driving licenses. The way it works is this: you get one hour after the bars close to get home. If bars close at 1 a.m.--you have until 2 a.m. to get home. If you live somewhere where bars don't close, then a time is agreed upon. You have to have a speed limiter installed on your car that won't let you go faster than 20 KPH, special insurance and flashing purple and pink lights on the roof of your car. Your hood and bumpers have to be lined with 18" of Nerf. Also, doing a line on the dash is allowed during that hour.
 
2012-12-31 05:41:17 PM  

BronyMedic: badhatharry: I might have to leave this asshole country.

[cdn.stripersonline.com image 299x156]

Maybe you can drink and drive in the UK- wait, maybe Fra-, maybe German- DAMNIT! Maybe Itali- Maybe Somalia! Yeah, that's the ticket!

[josephnewton.com image 440x587]


Europe isn't as bad as America. It's the same hysteria that gave us Prohibition.
 
2012-12-31 05:41:18 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: And how would it be proved that your report was false?


I'm pretty sure "calling in every car you see" while drinking would make someone lean towards a false report.YM, and lack of common sense, might vary.

relcec: this county went to obama by over 60%.
al gore wanted that county recounted in 2000.
not socialists obviously, but nosy liberals that like to get all up in your shiat.


Considering the State of New York passed laws against DUI in 1910, and was at the time a bastion of conservative political machinery, I don't think you have an argument.
 
2012-12-31 05:42:19 PM  

badhatharry: Europe isn't as bad as America. It's the same hysteria that gave us Prohibition.


Europe also has a 0.00 BAC in many countries, and it's a lot harder to get a license there.

Hysteria is a laughable claim, as well, considering well around 15-20% of Accident Fatalities could be prevented by not drinking and driving.
 
2012-12-31 05:42:26 PM  

BronyMedic: Maybe you can drink and drive in the UK- wait, maybe Fra-, maybe German- DAMNIT! Maybe Itali- Maybe Somalia! Yeah, that's the ticket!


Is that a replica of the Arc De Triomphe?
 
2012-12-31 05:44:51 PM  
I'm in total agreement with incentivizing the public to do the work of police. I don't have time to take part in this program, though, as I'm off to King's Landing to present my latest dwarf head.
 
2012-12-31 05:46:03 PM  

fireclown: Is that a replica of the Arc De Triomphe?


I didn't even notice that. Pretty interesting!

Have you met your tour directors yet?

worldwithoutgenocide.org

We can enjoy nice sunset cruises!

www.wired.com
 
2012-12-31 05:54:48 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: KrispyKritter: i don't understand why joints that serve don't have a drive home the drunk patrons mobile.

Would you take the driver's job?  If so, how much would you charge to do it?

How do you get a drunk to accept your kind offer?

How many courtesy drivers and cars should a bar have available?

How will taxi drivers feel about this competition?

What do you do with all the drunks' cars left in your parking lot?

Never happen, kiddo.


Last year they had a program where they would tow your car ( and haul your ass) home for free during the holidays. It was supported by donations from the local bars.

There was another one that had free cab rides. I liked that one. For some reason, my home address kept changing to a few houses from my next bar.
 
2012-12-31 05:57:13 PM  
This over-reaction began in the early 80s, when drunk driving starting being unfairly demonised. Alcohol is simply an intensifier. Bad drivers drive worse whilst loaded, but good drivers drive much better.

Overall, the increase of accidents caused by bad drivers is cancelled by the decrease of accidents caused by good drivers. While there may be anecdotal horror stories about sloshed drivers mowing down entire bus queues, these are still anecdotes. The statistics don't lie. Alcohol has little effect upon road safety.
 
2012-12-31 06:01:16 PM  
I could've made $300 off myself last Saturday
 
2012-12-31 06:02:07 PM  

BronyMedic: badhatharry: Europe isn't as bad as America. It's the same hysteria that gave us Prohibition.

Europe also has a 0.00 BAC in many countries, and it's a lot harder to get a license there.

Hysteria is a laughable claim, as well, considering well around 15-20% of Accident Fatalities could be prevented by not drinking and driving.


It is mass hysteria. Normally sane, freedom loving people are all for checkpoints and forced no warrant blood tests. Felony charges for having three beers instead of two. Now we have them encouraging us to inform on each other. To save us from the evil drunk drivers trying to kill us all. It's like cars and booze are new inventions. How did we ever survive all these years. The real reason police departments love drunk drivers is that they have the money to pay the fines as compared to other felons.
 
2012-12-31 06:05:57 PM  
In some states, not sure about Florida, a person making 50k per year or less will have their lives ruined by a DUI. Pretty awful until 100k. Not sure after that.
Plus the traffic officer is the angriest SOB on the force. If you bother him enough to pull someone over, he is going to make sure tickets are written if he cannot take someone to jail.
If someone is a danger, then it is always worth saving lives, and no reward is needed.

Plus the person who calls to get paid is usually a jerk. There is just no argument that leads me to think this is a good idea.
 
2012-12-31 06:12:14 PM  

rev. dave: In some states, not sure about Florida, a person making 50k per year or less will have their lives ruined by a DUI. Pretty awful until 100k. Not sure after that.
Plus the traffic officer is the angriest SOB on the force. If you bother him enough to pull someone over, he is going to make sure tickets are written if he cannot take someone to jail.
If someone is a danger, then it is always worth saving lives, and no reward is needed.

Plus the person who calls to get paid is usually a jerk. There is just no argument that leads me to think this is a good idea.


Eh .... I'll give em a hand tonight. I need all the cash I can get. I'm a jerk anyway so no big surprise. I'll just monitor the parties in my condo and report as necessary.

drunk and trolling is all...
 
2012-12-31 06:13:30 PM  

DeathByGeekSquad: TexasPeace: 1.  Sit in a bar, observe patrons, report them as they leave, profit.
2.  Find out where your ex likes to party, call it in as she's leaving, Shadenfreude + profit.

All reports are required to be by text message.
Really, is it smart to encourage vigilante wannabes to drive around talking on cell phones in the wee hours when everybody is drunk?

1. Sit in a cop bar and report patrons as they leave...


Wouldn't work. You only get the $100 if they're arrested.
 
2012-12-31 06:31:33 PM  

BronyMedic: tbhouston: What crime is drunk driving anyway?

Well, it's a crime covered under Statute 55-10-401 in the State of Tennessee. But that's beside the point.

tbhouston: You are at a higher chance to commit a crime...but you haven't done anything yet

Society says otherwise, which as a whole deemed the prospect of someone driving above an arbitrary limit unacceptable when compared with the danger that person on average poses to others on the road.

tbhouston: Thought crime, precrime...stupid American's

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Link to a table of legal BAC limits by country (in Mg/ML not MG/DL like the US commonly uses). I think you have no idea what you're talking about.


So it's a crime because it is illegal...seems solid.

Think hard for a second and try to figure out what crime a drunk driver has committed..

Person A leaves a bar, drives home and goes to bed. What crime was committed? None

Person B leaves a bar and gets into an accident and kills three people. What crime was committed? Murder.
 
2012-12-31 06:37:33 PM  

tbhouston: BronyMedic: tbhouston: What crime is drunk driving anyway?

Well, it's a crime covered under Statute 55-10-401 in the State of Tennessee. But that's beside the point.

tbhouston: You are at a higher chance to commit a crime...but you haven't done anything yet

Society says otherwise, which as a whole deemed the prospect of someone driving above an arbitrary limit unacceptable when compared with the danger that person on average poses to others on the road.

tbhouston: Thought crime, precrime...stupid American's

[suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com image 604x453]

Link to a table of legal BAC limits by country (in Mg/ML not MG/DL like the US commonly uses). I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

So it's a crime because it is illegal...seems solid.

Think hard for a second and try to figure out what crime a drunk driver has committed..

Person A leaves a bar, drives home and goes to bed. What crime was committed? None

Person B leaves a bar and gets into an accident and kills three people. What crime was committed? Murder.


Both committed crimes but only one was caught.
 
2012-12-31 06:37:49 PM  

badhatharry: It is mass hysteria. Normally sane, freedom loving people are all for checkpoints and forced no warrant blood tests.


Yeah, no.

And you still have the option of refusing a sobriety test. Just don't expect to be granted the privilege to operate a motor vehicle in return. As your constitutional right to walk wherever you like is not violated, there's no loss of your freedoms.

badhatharry: Felony charges for having three beers instead of two.


No. Misderminor charges that result in you losing your driving privileges for getting behind the wheel under the influence. If you can't sober up before you get behind the wheel, or there is something so pressing that you must leave IMMEDIATELY when you've slammed down three beers, you have a far greater problem than the law.

badhatharry: Now we have them encouraging us to inform on each other.


Police have always encouraged citizens to tell on assholes who drive drunk. Nothing new, again. And no violation of your rights.

badhatharry: To save us from the evil drunk drivers trying to kill us all. It's like cars and booze are new inventions. How did we ever survive all these years.


utopianist.com
Amazing how enforcing laws against impaired driving works to prevent and reduce death, isn't it?

badhatharry: The real reason police departments love drunk drivers is that they have the money to pay the fines as compared to other felons.


Yes. The poor, persecuted drunk drivers who have no choice but to get behind the wheel.
 
2012-12-31 06:38:04 PM  

tbhouston: BronyMedic: tbhouston: What crime is drunk driving anyway?

Well, it's a crime covered under Statute 55-10-401 in the State of Tennessee. But that's beside the point.

tbhouston: You are at a higher chance to commit a crime...but you haven't done anything yet

Society says otherwise, which as a whole deemed the prospect of someone driving above an arbitrary limit unacceptable when compared with the danger that person on average poses to others on the road.

tbhouston: Thought crime, precrime...stupid American's

[suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com image 604x453]

Link to a table of legal BAC limits by country (in Mg/ML not MG/DL like the US commonly uses). I think you have no idea what you're talking about.

So it's a crime because it is illegal...seems solid.

Think hard for a second and try to figure out what crime a drunk driver has committed..

Person A leaves a bar, drives home and goes to bed. What crime was committed? None

Person B leaves a bar and gets into an accident and kills three people. What crime was committed? Murder.


Man you are really treading on the troll/idiot line
 
2012-12-31 06:41:43 PM  

igorknowsall: tbhouston:

Both committed crimes but only one was caught.


Who is the victim then?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/crovelli/crovelli38.1.html
 
2012-12-31 06:42:20 PM  

tbhouston: So it's a crime because it is illegal...seems solid.


You asked what crime had been committed. I provided you the citation to the actual crime. But since you're wanting to debate WHY it's illegal, it's because society as a whole has deemed it illegal to operate a motor vehicle which endangers the lives of everyone around you while you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or driving distracted.

tbhouston: Think hard for a second and try to figure out what crime a drunk driver has committed..


Sure thing!

tbhouston: Person A leaves a bar, drives home and goes to bed. What crime was committed? None


If that person was over the legal limit set by legislation, that person committed the crime of driving under the influence of alcohol beyond the legal limit, as defined by the state which he resides in. This is because as a whole, society has ruled the cost of doing so unacceptable. You do not have a constitutional right to operate a motor vehicle, it is a licensed privilege granted to you by society.

tbhouston: Person B leaves a bar and gets into an accident and kills three people. What crime was committed? Murder.


Murder and DUI.
 
2012-12-31 06:47:11 PM  

BronyMedic: tbhouston: So it's a crime because it is illegal...seems solid.

You asked what crime had been committed. I provided you the citation to the actual crime. But since you're wanting to debate WHY it's illegal, it's because society as a whole has deemed it illegal to operate a motor vehicle which endangers the lives of everyone around you while you are under the influence of drugs or alcohol, or driving distracted.

tbhouston: Think hard for a second and try to figure out what crime a drunk driver has committed..

Sure thing!

tbhouston: Person A leaves a bar, drives home and goes to bed. What crime was committed? None

If that person was over the legal limit set by legislation, that person committed the crime of driving under the influence of alcohol beyond the legal limit, as defined by the state which he resides in. This is because as a whole, society has ruled the cost of doing so unacceptable. You do not have a constitutional right to operate a motor vehicle, it is a licensed privilege granted to you by society.

tbhouston: Person B leaves a bar and gets into an accident and kills three people. What crime was committed? Murder.

Murder and DUI.


Keep your head in the sand citizen.
 
2012-12-31 06:49:00 PM  

tbhouston: Who is the victim then?


Every person on the road which was endangered by your selfish inability to wait a few minutes and eat some damn food before you slammed a brewski.

There does NOT have to be physical harm or actual loss to a person for a crime to have occurred, intent and harm to society also weigh heavily into it. The notion of Precrime, as Dick imagined it in his book, is the premise of the thought of committing a violent act actually leading you to do it, a major deus ex machina in that universe being that it embodied the infinite probability paradox - the Pre-cogs could only see what would happen in one outcome.

tbhouston: http://www.lewrockwell.com/crovelli/crovelli38.1.html


Ah. A "Fascism with a Bow Tie" libertarian, are you?
 
2012-12-31 06:50:23 PM  

tbhouston: igorknowsall: tbhouston:

Both committed crimes but only one was caught.

Who is the victim then?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/crovelli/crovelli38.1.html


'Victimless' crimes include the following: drunk driving, consensual prostitution, public nudity (assumes a no fatties codicil), buying non-food items before 1:30 PM on Sundays in the Bible Belt, and attempted murder.
 
2012-12-31 06:50:42 PM  

tbhouston: Keep your head in the sand citizen.


What? Calling me a sheeple was too low brow? LOL.

Yes. Poor, pitiful, persecuted drunk drivers. Oh, woe are them! Their rights are violated by not being able to drink and drive!
 
2012-12-31 06:51:40 PM  
So basically, drink all you want.

When you're ready to go home, you and friends text the local patrol about "some drunks a few miles away".

It's like creating your own diversion!
 
2012-12-31 06:52:17 PM  

tbhouston: igorknowsall: tbhouston:

Both committed crimes but only one was caught.

Who is the victim then?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/crovelli/crovelli38.1.html


There was none but a victimless crime is still a crime nonetheless.
 
2012-12-31 06:54:01 PM  
100 bucks can buy a lot of shots for the road.
 
2012-12-31 06:55:30 PM  
Ctrl-F "Cobra Effect" = disappointment.
 
2012-12-31 06:59:03 PM  
Do they offer double for turning in a family member?
 
2012-12-31 06:59:35 PM  

tbhouston: http://www.lewrockwell.com/crovelli/crovelli38.1.html


Comparisons to drunk driving in that link, asking why they are legal when an arbitrary BAC level is not:
There are sleepy drivers, drivers toying with their stereos, drivers old enough to have seen Great Depression I, drivers with dogs on their laps, drivers putting on makeup, drivers with glasses thicker than their taillights, teenage drivers, drivers looking at maps, drivers with the flu, drivers screaming at their spouses, drivers with kids fighting in the backseat, drivers eating tacos, virtually every single driver in Los Angeles...

Guess, what: the bolded ones are also illegal and can get you ticketed under reckless driving. The guy with glasses can also get a ticket if he doesn't wear them, and the ones with the flu can get arrested for DUI if they've taken too much medication to drive safely. Teenage drivers have to have a permit and licensed supervisor in the car while they're driving or else they're illegal too. Old drivers are not a hazard simply by their age - other medical conditions are the cause of their problems.

So in your link, the only ones left is drivers in LA; which could probably be pulled over for some kind of reckless driving such as road rage. Leaving you with exactly dick for a citation.
 
2012-12-31 07:01:52 PM  

Karac: Comparisons to drunk driving in that link, asking why they are legal when an arbitrary BAC level is not:
There are sleepy drivers, drivers toying with their stereos, drivers old enough to have seen Great Depression I, drivers with dogs on their laps, drivers putting on makeup, drivers with glasses thicker than their taillights, teenage drivers, drivers looking at maps, drivers with the flu, drivers screaming at their spouses, drivers with kids fighting in the backseat, drivers eating tacos, virtually every single driver in Los Angeles...

Guess, what: the bolded ones are also illegal and can get you ticketed under reckless driving. The guy with glasses can also get a ticket if he doesn't wear them, and the ones with the flu can get arrested for DUI if they've taken too much medication to drive safely. Teenage drivers have to have a permit and licensed supervisor in the car while they're driving or else they're illegal too. Old drivers are not a hazard simply by their age - other medical conditions are the cause of their problems.

So in your link, the only ones left is drivers in LA; which could probably be pulled over for some kind of reckless driving such as road rage. Leaving you with exactly dick for a citation.


Forget it jake, he's a libertarian. He thinks you should be able to do everything you want, until someone suffers actual personal harm. Then it's MAYBE, possibly a crime.
 
2012-12-31 07:10:47 PM  

fluffy2097: redmid17: He was making a joke about your decimal being wrong.

The decimal point is exactly where I want it. I'm making a joke about alcoholics. Like you, who is apparently to plastered to get the joke.


That should be "Too plastered" not "to". Funny how you scold someone else for a decimal point when you can't even use correct grammar. Sheesh!
 
2012-12-31 07:13:20 PM  

LtDarkstar: That should be "Too plastered" not "to". Funny how you scold someone else for a decimal point when you can't even use correct grammar. Sheesh!


Okay. Who summoned the Grammar Nazis. ITS ALL FUN AND GAMES UNTIL!
 
2012-12-31 07:16:07 PM  

BronyMedic: LtDarkstar: That should be "Too plastered" not "to". Funny how you scold someone else for a decimal point when you can't even use correct grammar. Sheesh!

Okay. Who summoned the Grammar Nazis. ITS ALL FUN AND GAMES UNTIL!


Until what? Don't leave us hanging?
 
2012-12-31 07:17:35 PM  

redmid17: Until what? Don't leave us hanging?


Was that a black joke?
 
2012-12-31 07:18:36 PM  

BronyMedic: LtDarkstar: That should be "Too plastered" not "to". Funny how you scold someone else for a decimal point when you can't even use correct grammar. Sheesh!

Okay. Who summoned the Grammar Nazis. ITS ALL FUN AND GAMES UNTL!


ftfy
 
2012-12-31 07:21:34 PM  

BronyMedic: redmid17: Until what? Don't leave us hanging?

Was that a black joke?


I was aiming for a penis joke.
 
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