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(WESH Orlando)   Mom urges people to not engage in celebratory gunfire for New Year's. Calls for her deportation in 10, 9, 8   (wesh.com) divider line 29
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2012-12-31 10:57:32 AM
4 votes:
You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.
2012-12-31 11:18:31 AM
3 votes:

cardex: I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution


Celebratory gunfire violates three of the Four Rules.

Violate one rule, and you may have an expensive and/or embarrassing misadventure.

Violate two of the rules, and you may upgrade misadventure to a disaster that can't be fixed with mere money. If you are lucky enough to avoid a stupid accident, anyone that sees you should tell you to pack up your guns and don't come back until you're not an asshole.

Violate three or four rules intentionally or negligently? You're not going to stop being an asshole any time soon. A person would reasonably think that you're immediate danger to anyone around you. Assuming you survive to see a judge, I'd support the due process of law to see that we don't have to put up with that again.

It's not a problem with guns. It's the loose nut on the trigger.
2012-12-31 11:41:07 AM
2 votes:
If you feel the need to fire bullets into the air to celebrate, fire them into your skull instead. At least it will lower the stupid in the gene pool.
2012-12-31 11:09:31 AM
2 votes:

Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg


Please stop talking about the Mythbusters penny experiment.

Anyone with 3 operational brain cells should be able to understand that the aerodynamics of bullets are different from that of coins.
2012-12-31 10:49:02 AM
2 votes:
I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution
2012-12-31 10:47:54 AM
2 votes:
Idiotic headline.
2012-12-31 10:47:50 AM
2 votes:
Her son is named Diego. Of course she should be deported.
2012-12-31 05:07:58 PM
1 votes:

Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg


The problem is that you have to fire directly upwards for a bullet to go up and then tumble down. If you're off, the bullet will travel in a parabola and can still be quite lethal when it comes down.
2012-12-31 04:15:02 PM
1 votes:

GreenSun: If you're gonna fire your gun, please do it in a shooting range, or at least do it while hunting an animal (or a criminal)


"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

At this point, you remind whoever parroted this nonsense in your face that most of the perpetrators of these recent mass shootings (in addition to Hitler) shot themselves.
2012-12-31 02:34:25 PM
1 votes:
Yes, terminal velocity is not as fast as muzzle velocity. That being said...

Earlier this year, I found a .38 hollow point bullet on my front porch. A friend does forensic work for the local PD, so I had him take a look at it. He said it was fired nearly straight up... It was not as deformed as it would have been if fired horizontally, but it had striations and powder scorch. We looked around on my porch and found a 1/8-inch divot with a fragment of the bullet embedded in it.

I think I would prefer NOT being hit with that, thank you very much. Sure, it probably wouldn't kill me. It would still hurt, and might even crack my skull and/or leave a metal shard under my skin.

I am a firm believer in the right to own firearms, but I expect responsibility from gun owners. If I had *ever* fired a gun at *anything* other than a practice target or an animal I was hunting, my dad would have whipped my *ass*. He would have done the same if I had ever fired without knowing what was behind my target, or fired up into the air.
2012-12-31 01:55:13 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: To the civilized world, the American obsession with guns borders on sexual fetishization. From an outsider's perspective, it appears similar to the individual who covets women's shoes (and cannot obtain sexual release unless masturbating to said shoes). Hence, the connection to unconventional sexual practices when describing the relationship between (American) gun owners and their hobby.

Q.E.D.


Ah, yes, the tired old "I don't understand you, so I'll just compare you to something else I find abhorrent and ignore the red herring aspect of the whole thing" argument. Brilliant. You should write a book.
2012-12-31 01:42:52 PM
1 votes:
Have you been shopping for ammunition lately? Since that Connecticut thing the price of ammo has gone up 50% or more. Re-goddamn-diculous. All the panic-buyers and the vendors exploiting their panic. Right about soon there won't be any ammo in the stores to buy at any price. CheaperThanDirt is sold out of all the popular calibers unless you want to buy some exotic 9mm thrice-coated super-match 99.9% tolerance stuff at a buck per round, but that was already expensive to begin with.

No goddamn good.
2012-12-31 01:32:21 PM
1 votes:

clowncar on fire: Anti-gun Warcraft fans a whole new breed of stupid. Why is it the gun opposition crowd likes to toss in sexual inuendo whenever they describe relationship between gun owners and their hobby?


To the civilized world, the American obsession with guns borders on sexual fetishization. From an outsider's perspective, it appears similar to the individual who covets women's shoes (and cannot obtain sexual release unless masturbating to said shoes). Hence, the connection to unconventional sexual practices when describing the relationship between (American) gun owners and their hobby.

Q.E.D.
2012-12-31 12:28:30 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: clowncar on fire: Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.

Go back to your World of Warcraft- the adults are trying to maintain an intelligent conversation here.

Do you get a thrill from the danger associated with sodomizing a loaded 14 gauge shotgun? It must be quite a rush knowing that it could go off at any moment and blow off your "man" parts.


Anti-gun Warcraft fans a whole new breed of stupid. Why is it the gun opposition crowd likes to toss in sexual inuendo whenever they describe relationship between gun owners and their hobby? Could it be that, like having never actually fired a gun, their sexual expirience is that limited as well?

In all seriousness: I've plinked a few cans in my youth, watched some half decent shooters at the range and had the opportunity to handle an assault rifle in AF basic training marksman ship class. It was fun but "meh" not much bang for the buck as a hobby that I would pursue. My dad had an old 22 rifle we plinked cans with once in a while, but mostly kept to put down rabid racoons and rats when we lived in the country. I've always lived in safe neighborhoods so have never felt the need to arm myself so yeah- i don't own any firearms or am part of any gun culture.

What I do dislike is idiots who make baseless hateful comments about things they apparently know nothing about. Rather than make stupid statements, why not visit a gun range and try your hand at shooting a paper target- that is if you have your sexual libido in check. You might just discover a new skill or hobby, or- like myself-- find yourself saying "meh, not for me".
2012-12-31 12:17:05 PM
1 votes:

gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida


It is in New Orleans.  You can definitely hear it, and every few years, someone ends up with a wound from a falling bullet.  Locals always advise visitors to be inside when the clock hits midnight.
2012-12-31 11:48:33 AM
1 votes:

natazha: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

Yes, it takes a special kind of stupid, but in my experience (California, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Illinois, New Jersey) it's much more common in Hispanic neighborhoods.

If a bullet goes straight up, it comes down relatively slowly, but even a slight angle off vertical and it doesn't.


A girl died in Denver in 2008 because the guy was too drunk to fire straight up. Plus, it was a high-powered rifle. Travelled 300 yards, through a wall, and struck the girl.
2012-12-31 11:45:21 AM
1 votes:
This thread is turning classic

Idiotic gun owners, bad physics, and second amendment masturbation
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2012-12-31 11:36:13 AM
1 votes:

You Must Construct Additional Pylons.: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

Your one of those idiots that doesn't know about these things called blanks aren't you?

I blast my Benelli with blanks every NYE and you know how many people get hurt? 0.

Fireworks kill and injure how many? Infinity billion.

Don't talk about responsible gun ownership if you dont know shiat about the subject in the first place.


Yes, that's why the kid was shot in the head.  Because of blanks.
2012-12-31 11:25:06 AM
1 votes:
you don't fire any weapon without knowing where the projectile is going and what it may hit.
2012-12-31 11:22:41 AM
1 votes:

Mr. Right: Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?


The consensus answer among Mythbuster fans and self-appointed internet physicists (I'm both) is that a falling bullet or bullet fragment can move very fast indeed, certainly enough to hurt you in some way requiring medical attention, but that it wouldn't be moving fast enough to pierce the skull. Fracture it, maybe, if the bullet were heavy enough, but not break through to the brain.

The other problem is that bullets fired into the air must be very nearly vertical for this to be true. Observe this delightful clip art of a cowboy engaging in celebratory gunfire.

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He appears to be shooting his guns at approximately 50-60 degrees from the horizontal. Those bullets would retain considerable x-axis velocity as they dropped to the ground. For practical purposes, being hit by one of these bullets would be the almost as good as getting shot the old-fashioned way.
2012-12-31 11:21:09 AM
1 votes:

Diogenes: Her son, Diego, was hit by a stray bullet in front of their family's home in Tampa last year.

Apparently some gun owners have a problem with targeting "up".


Either that, or Tampa isn't the mecca of dead-still air as which it was sold in the brochures....
2012-12-31 11:14:04 AM
1 votes:
I don't always fire guns, but when I do, I prefer to fire them into a sand/dirt backstop where the bullets will safely stop.

/Stay uninjured, my friends.
2012-12-31 11:11:34 AM
1 votes:
Shooting a bullet directly up in the air and at a 45 degree angle are going to have a VERY different effect on what is on the receiving end.
2012-12-31 11:10:24 AM
1 votes:
Sorry Farktards, celebratory gunfire has never been an american tradition, it's typically observed in bassackwards countries in the middle east.
Nice try though.
2012-12-31 11:10:00 AM
1 votes:

Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.


You've convinced me. I'm turning my guns into lawn sculptures. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways. It's evil of me to want to defend myself. I pay taxes so men in uniform can come help me within 20 minutes. Government is my mommy and daddy and I can count on them to always love me and know what is best for me.
2012-12-31 11:05:16 AM
1 votes:

Zarquon's Flat Tire: It may be legal where I live, but still a very very stupid thing to do. No good berms or anything to stop a bunch of pellets in my yard.


Where on Earth do you live that discharging a weapon into the sky is legal?
2012-12-31 11:02:43 AM
1 votes:

Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's?

In fact...no, most of us don't. Some will. Especially those in the city, though, are very apt to be arrested for discharging a firearm within city limits (without a good reason) and pay for their mistake. But again, most don't. Then again, it doesn't take many idiots for some poor kid to be inadvertently hit by a stray round...which is why rational gun owners don't do it.

I'm sorry for this woman's kid, but her message is probably going to be ignored by just those idiots who need to hear it the most.

2012-12-31 10:54:45 AM
1 votes:
It's unfair to classify a "gun smart" comment with a "gun stupid" person like Piers Morgan
2012-12-31 10:54:05 AM
1 votes:
I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.
 
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