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2012-12-31 12:28:30 PM  

WhippingBoy: clowncar on fire: Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.

Go back to your World of Warcraft- the adults are trying to maintain an intelligent conversation here.

Do you get a thrill from the danger associated with sodomizing a loaded 14 gauge shotgun? It must be quite a rush knowing that it could go off at any moment and blow off your "man" parts.


Anti-gun Warcraft fans a whole new breed of stupid. Why is it the gun opposition crowd likes to toss in sexual inuendo whenever they describe relationship between gun owners and their hobby? Could it be that, like having never actually fired a gun, their sexual expirience is that limited as well?

In all seriousness: I've plinked a few cans in my youth, watched some half decent shooters at the range and had the opportunity to handle an assault rifle in AF basic training marksman ship class. It was fun but "meh" not much bang for the buck as a hobby that I would pursue. My dad had an old 22 rifle we plinked cans with once in a while, but mostly kept to put down rabid racoons and rats when we lived in the country. I've always lived in safe neighborhoods so have never felt the need to arm myself so yeah- i don't own any firearms or am part of any gun culture.

What I do dislike is idiots who make baseless hateful comments about things they apparently know nothing about. Rather than make stupid statements, why not visit a gun range and try your hand at shooting a paper target- that is if you have your sexual libido in check. You might just discover a new skill or hobby, or- like myself-- find yourself saying "meh, not for me".
 
2012-12-31 12:31:21 PM  

gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida


Inner city folk, 99% of guns fired in the air happen with a typical brand of stupid person, mainly those who already have illegal guns.
 
2012-12-31 12:40:14 PM  
I plan on shooting the tops off every tree within a quarter mile of here. Screw 'em.
 
2012-12-31 12:42:52 PM  
Agreed, but a bullet still has the potential to tumble in the air and once it has reached the peak of it's flight straight up and lost all kinetic energy it will only reach a speed that it's mass and aerodynamics will allow, certainly not enough to penetrate a skull. I'm not kidding. Understanding gravity is pretty simple even for a dummy like me.

The thing about terminal velocity is it depends on the object being dropped and a solid metal object has a pretty good density and high speed before air resistance counteracts it, around 200mph (straight down), which is easily fast enough to penetrate the skull. I don't know why this terminal velocity thing is so hard to understand. If you ran the calculation of kinetic energy based on that speed and then that amount focused to a point, it's easily enough to break through the skull and actually go a good distance in depending on the caliber/mass. Combine this with the fact that the head represents a good percentage of the target and it's a particularly vulnerable part of the skull itself, and you get a mortality rate of 32% compared to about 4% for regular gunshot wounds which are fired directly at a person. But "responsible gun owners" really are a minority especially with alcohol added, and this silly belief that guns fired straight up are harmless. But most people who collect and shoot guns straight up failed at something in life, probably including physics. Anyway, somewhere in the 2nd amendment it says firing a gun straight up is an inalienable human right, protected by God, Mickey Mouse and the gold standard.
 
2012-12-31 12:45:52 PM  

dr.zaeus: natazha: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

Yes, it takes a special kind of stupid, but in my experience (California, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Illinois, New Jersey) it's much more common in Hispanic neighborhoods.

This has been my experience as well. Perhaps this was the elusive "joke" that subby was attempting to pull off with his weak trolltastic headline.


We have similar celebrations like this in Louisville involving the discharging of weapons in built up urban areas. I think it was during Passover. No that's not the celebration- silly me-- I meant during Drive-by. They all get out, usually in cars but sometimes on foot, and fire their weapons toward their neighbor's dwelling. Seems like a dangerous part of the Drive-by celebration though- don't you think? It is nice of them to cap off the evening by inviting the police and EMS over later that night as part of the festivities.
 
2012-12-31 12:49:14 PM  

Zeb Hesselgresser: brother-in-law is a roofing contractor in D.C. he sends me pictures, now and again, of bullets they find in built up roofs downtown. always makes me chuckle.

.45's, maybe because they're more easily found


My buddy used to rent a place in downtown Phx. The place had these cool cooper roofs, and he was sitting out on the balcony one New Year's Eve, listening to the Sweet Sound of Morons, when her heard a whistling noise, followed by a banging noise as something hit the roof somewhere above his head and clanked and rolled down into the rain gutter... Then, 2 or 3 years later, he and I were at a friend's house for the holiday festivities, and we were about 3 blocks from where the girl in Phx got hit in the head and killed, prompting the law that went into effect there.

I don't think he goes outside at midnight on New Year's anymore, after one near miss, and a second one just close enough to make you wonder what would have happened if the shooter had aimed his/her gun just a few degrees off...

At least here in Utah, they let people buy and set off fireworks, to scratch that 'make something go boom' itch.
 
2012-12-31 12:51:20 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.


No, I shoot into a several hundred feet thick bern, full of an assortment of material. Now the rednecks around here shoot into the air. Luckily it takes a couple of them out in the process.
 
2012-12-31 01:13:02 PM  
Shoot all you want on New Year's Eve, just please try to aim it at SOMETHING rather than shooting into the air willy-nilly.
 
2012-12-31 01:16:00 PM  

limeyfellow: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

No, I shoot into a several hundred feet thick bern, full of an assortment of material. Now the rednecks around here shoot into the air. Luckily it takes a couple of them out in the process.


No no, the thing is - you have a gun to avert and/or counter danger. You shoot with it when you do that, or when you practice. Any other occasion is just not responsible - you can never, never tell what you're going to hit.
 
2012-12-31 01:32:21 PM  

clowncar on fire: Anti-gun Warcraft fans a whole new breed of stupid. Why is it the gun opposition crowd likes to toss in sexual inuendo whenever they describe relationship between gun owners and their hobby?


To the civilized world, the American obsession with guns borders on sexual fetishization. From an outsider's perspective, it appears similar to the individual who covets women's shoes (and cannot obtain sexual release unless masturbating to said shoes). Hence, the connection to unconventional sexual practices when describing the relationship between (American) gun owners and their hobby.

Q.E.D.
 
2012-12-31 01:33:50 PM  

gshepnyc: titwrench: Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.

Shut the fark up. You know damn well nobody thinks that and your idiotic comment only serves to show your stupidity to the world. Go fark yourself.

Looks like he caught you masturbating. Don't be embarrassed.


Oh look, another moron with nothing intelligent to add. "Hur hur all gun owners love dead children and Jack off to guns and ammo magazine." Just shut the fark up you aren't contributing and you look like a god damned idiot.
 
2012-12-31 01:40:41 PM  

gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida


You apparently have not lived in this country very long. This and this.
 
2012-12-31 01:42:52 PM  
Have you been shopping for ammunition lately? Since that Connecticut thing the price of ammo has gone up 50% or more. Re-goddamn-diculous. All the panic-buyers and the vendors exploiting their panic. Right about soon there won't be any ammo in the stores to buy at any price. CheaperThanDirt is sold out of all the popular calibers unless you want to buy some exotic 9mm thrice-coated super-match 99.9% tolerance stuff at a buck per round, but that was already expensive to begin with.

No goddamn good.
 
2012-12-31 01:55:13 PM  

WhippingBoy: To the civilized world, the American obsession with guns borders on sexual fetishization. From an outsider's perspective, it appears similar to the individual who covets women's shoes (and cannot obtain sexual release unless masturbating to said shoes). Hence, the connection to unconventional sexual practices when describing the relationship between (American) gun owners and their hobby.

Q.E.D.


Ah, yes, the tired old "I don't understand you, so I'll just compare you to something else I find abhorrent and ignore the red herring aspect of the whole thing" argument. Brilliant. You should write a book.
 
2012-12-31 02:31:05 PM  
The Only Sane Man In Florida
radiumsoup
Mrbogey
kombat_unit
tenpoundsofcheese
et al...


Oh yes, the butthurt is strong with these gun owners. Their last inkling of humanity is about to seep out, and it just might make them reconsider their worthless "hobby".

Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.
 
2012-12-31 02:34:25 PM  
Yes, terminal velocity is not as fast as muzzle velocity. That being said...

Earlier this year, I found a .38 hollow point bullet on my front porch. A friend does forensic work for the local PD, so I had him take a look at it. He said it was fired nearly straight up... It was not as deformed as it would have been if fired horizontally, but it had striations and powder scorch. We looked around on my porch and found a 1/8-inch divot with a fragment of the bullet embedded in it.

I think I would prefer NOT being hit with that, thank you very much. Sure, it probably wouldn't kill me. It would still hurt, and might even crack my skull and/or leave a metal shard under my skin.

I am a firm believer in the right to own firearms, but I expect responsibility from gun owners. If I had *ever* fired a gun at *anything* other than a practice target or an animal I was hunting, my dad would have whipped my *ass*. He would have done the same if I had ever fired without knowing what was behind my target, or fired up into the air.
 
2012-12-31 02:50:11 PM  
And gun owners prove again that they are unable to be part of a civilized society.
 
2012-12-31 02:56:31 PM  

radiumsoup: The Only Sane Man In Florida: Idiotic headline.

Seconded. One of the worst attempts at a straw man ever, and it's trollness is about as effective as my wife's attempts to get me to eat collared greens. I award it no points.


I like mustered greens better. Or maybe Swiss Charred...
 
2012-12-31 03:13:10 PM  
An acquaintance's fiancee was killed by such gunfire this last 4th of July celebration, so I am getting exactly zero kicks out of this thread.

/so farking sad
//absolute waste of a beautiful life
 
2012-12-31 03:56:17 PM  
With the current ammo drought, I highly doubt there'll be much of that nonsense going on this year, coupled with the fact the cops are gonna have a hard-on for anything firearm related.
 
2012-12-31 04:05:17 PM  
If you're gonna fire your gun, please do it in a shooting range, or at least do it while hunting an animal (or a criminal)
 
2012-12-31 04:15:02 PM  

GreenSun: If you're gonna fire your gun, please do it in a shooting range, or at least do it while hunting an animal (or a criminal)


"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

At this point, you remind whoever parroted this nonsense in your face that most of the perpetrators of these recent mass shootings (in addition to Hitler) shot themselves.
 
2012-12-31 04:24:39 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.


Moral high ground, everyone
 
BHK
2012-12-31 04:33:50 PM  

Kiwimann: Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg

Please stop talking about the Mythbusters penny experiment.

Anyone with 3 operational brain cells should be able to understand that the aerodynamics of bullets are different from that of coins.


They did do a test on the firing of bullets into the air and the myth was confirmed, plausible, and busted. It was the only test to receive all three ratings. It all depends on the angle. If it fired precisely vertical, it's not going to be much different than the penny, despite your assert that the aerodynamics are different. However, that would be a difficult feat for most shooters to achieve, so it's not a safe practice by any means except in a controlled experiment with all conditions accounted for.
 
2012-12-31 05:07:58 PM  

Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg


The problem is that you have to fire directly upwards for a bullet to go up and then tumble down. If you're off, the bullet will travel in a parabola and can still be quite lethal when it comes down.
 
2012-12-31 05:16:05 PM  

oMaJoJ: JudgeItoBox: Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.

Moral high ground, everyone


Worked for Palin and the teatards, didn't it?
 
2012-12-31 05:35:10 PM  

JudgeItoBox: The Only Sane Man In Florida
radiumsoup
Mrbogey
kombat_unit
tenpoundsofcheese
et al...

Oh yes, the butthurt is strong with these gun owners. Their last inkling of humanity is about to seep out, and it just might make them reconsider their worthless "hobby".

Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.


You are a bitter mean little troll. There is nothing I can say that can further drive home the point how sad and lonely your life is.
 
pla
2012-12-31 06:10:25 PM  
Coming on a Bicycle : Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

You might want to explain that to the local veterans who, every 11/11, hang a wreath at the local memorial and then offer up a 21-gun salute.

Oh, but for "memorial" or "mourning" purposes, that makes it magically less barbaric, right?
 
2012-12-31 06:10:30 PM  

Mrbogey: JudgeItoBox: The Only Sane Man In Florida
radiumsoup
Mrbogey
kombat_unit
tenpoundsofcheese
et al...

Oh yes, the butthurt is strong with these gun owners. Their last inkling of humanity is about to seep out, and it just might make them reconsider their worthless "hobby".

Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.

You are a bitter mean little troll. There is nothing I can say that can further drive home the point how sad and lonely your life is.


You should go out and shoot something or someone. You'll feel better.
 
pla
2012-12-31 06:18:46 PM  
...That said, TFA makes a good suggestion. You never fire a live round unless you can see both your target and what it will hit if you miss (ie, always sight below the horizon unless you know damn sure you can't hit anything for the next mile or two - with birdshot as a notable exception, because it loses energy so fast you only need a few hundred yards of clearance).

But subby? Go fark yourself, eh?
 
2012-12-31 06:27:52 PM  
I will be engaging in celebratory gunfire tonight. I'm not stupid; I don't fire into the air, I fire into a large body of water at about a 70 degree angle.
 
2012-12-31 06:34:54 PM  

Mrbogey: You are a bitter mean little troll. There is nothing I can say that can further drive home the point how sad and lonely your life is.


Oh, you sure nailed it, didn't you? But my life probably isn't as lonely as the lives of the parents in Newtown who just spent their first Christmas without their murdered kids. Keep banging the drum for guns, though! Lord LaPierre won't be happy til all the world's little kiddies are armed. Add pla to the butthurt list while we're at it. You're all hypocrites.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

Meditate on those words and do the right thing.
 
2012-12-31 06:52:20 PM  

WhippingBoy: You should go out and shoot something or someone. You'll feel better.


I feel fine. It's the other guy who apparently has gone insane with rage. I blame poor parentage.
 
2012-12-31 06:57:17 PM  

Coming on a Bicycle: firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.


1.bp.blogspot.com

To fire a gun in the air and hear the lamentation of the Farkers.
 
pla
2012-12-31 07:04:55 PM  
JudgeItoBox : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." Meditate on those words and do the right thing.

Okay...
Ooooommmmmmm
Happy thoughts
oooooommmmmm...

Yup. I feel at peace with myself. You should try that, it might help with that chronic arsepain you keep bringing up.
 
2012-12-31 07:50:54 PM  

steamingpile: gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida

Inner city folk, 99% of guns fired in the air happen with a typical brand of stupid person, mainly those who already have illegal guns.


Oh, morons in the suburbs do this shiat, too. I live in an upper-middle-class neighborhood, and you'll think we're under attack come midnight.

/stupidity knows no racial or socioeconomic bounds
 
2012-12-31 08:05:47 PM  

WhippingBoy: To the civilized world, the American obsession with guns borders on sexual fetishization. From an outsider's perspective, it appears similar to the individual who covets women's shoes (and cannot obtain sexual release unless masturbating to said shoes). Hence, the connection to unconventional sexual practices when describing the relationship between (American) gun owners and their hobby.


An obviously desperate attempt to disparage constitutional rights of a country that helps maintain a civilized world. You are awarded no points.
 
2012-12-31 08:11:54 PM  
I see. Asking people to refrain from firing a weapon in a random direction while likely intoxicated is trolling.

Fark neocon logic has gone to plaid.
 
pla
2012-12-31 08:18:09 PM  
Void_Beavis : I see. Asking people to refrain from firing a weapon in a random direction while likely intoxicated is trolling.

Just about every response so far has said something along the lines of "good idea, Mrs. Duran; Fark you, Subby".


Fark neocon logic has gone to plaid.

Reading comprehension. You can haz it?
 
2012-12-31 08:24:25 PM  

pla: Coming on a Bicycle : Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

You might want to explain that to the local veterans who, every 11/11, hang a wreath at the local memorial and then offer up a 21-gun salute.

Oh, but for "memorial" or "mourning" purposes, that makes it magically less barbaric, right?


No, what makes it less barbaric is that they use blanks for a 21 gun salute.

If you want to celebrate using blanks, go crazy. I think what people are concerned about is the random discharge of live ammunition.
 
2013-01-01 12:27:58 AM  

Void_Beavis: I see. Asking people to refrain from firing a weapon in a random direction while likely intoxicated is trolling.

Fark neocon logic has gone to plaid.


No; implying that all individuals who advocate civilian firearm ownership freedoms oppose prohibiting reckless discharge of firearms for celebratory purposes is "trolling".
 
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