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2012-12-31 10:25:07 AM
Hey, I live in the country now. Maybe I can give the double barrel a run out at midnight!
 
2012-12-31 10:47:44 AM
When the fark did new years in Florida turn into a ME wedding?
 
2012-12-31 10:47:50 AM
Her son is named Diego. Of course she should be deported.
 
2012-12-31 10:47:54 AM
Idiotic headline.
 
2012-12-31 10:49:02 AM
I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution
 
2012-12-31 10:53:36 AM

The Only Sane Man In Florida: Idiotic headline.


Seconded. One of the worst attempts at a straw man ever, and it's trollness is about as effective as my wife's attempts to get me to eat collared greens. I award it no points.
 
2012-12-31 10:54:05 AM
I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.
 
2012-12-31 10:54:30 AM
Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida
 
2012-12-31 10:54:45 AM
It's unfair to classify a "gun smart" comment with a "gun stupid" person like Piers Morgan
 
2012-12-31 10:55:03 AM

cardex: I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution


By god you're right. Well set off M-80s instead.
 
2012-12-31 10:55:52 AM

gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida


I can confirm that it is common every new years in southwestern Pennsylvania as well.  Only other time I heard it was the night bin laden bit the dust.
 
2012-12-31 10:56:54 AM

fanbladesaresharp: cardex: I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution

By god you're right. Well set off M-80s instead.


I hope you aren't comparing the dangers of an M-80 with shooting randomly into the sky.
 
2012-12-31 10:57:32 AM
You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.
 
2012-12-31 10:58:36 AM
My parents house once had a window shot out on new years by morons shooting in the air so I'm getting a kick...
 
2012-12-31 10:59:14 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.


You sound ethnocentric.
 
2012-12-31 11:00:39 AM

nekom: gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida

I can confirm that it is common every new years in southwestern Pennsylvania as well.  Only other time I heard it was the night bin laden bit the dust.


Last year in my old neighborhood I stopped counting at around 40 gunshots. I was kidding earlier, my gun will not be brought out tonight. It may be legal where I live, but still a very very stupid thing to do. No good berms or anything to stop a bunch of pellets in my yard.
 
2012-12-31 11:01:08 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.


0/10
 
2012-12-31 11:01:42 AM

cardex: I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution


Wow you live someplace where drivers actually use them? You're lucky
 
2012-12-31 11:02:14 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.


Your one of those idiots that doesn't know about these things called blanks aren't you?

I blast my Benelli with blanks every NYE and you know how many people get hurt? 0.

Fireworks kill and injure how many? Infinity billion.

Don't talk about responsible gun ownership if you dont know shiat about the subject in the first place.
 
2012-12-31 11:02:43 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's?

In fact...no, most of us don't. Some will. Especially those in the city, though, are very apt to be arrested for discharging a firearm within city limits (without a good reason) and pay for their mistake. But again, most don't. Then again, it doesn't take many idiots for some poor kid to be inadvertently hit by a stray round...which is why rational gun owners don't do it.

I'm sorry for this woman's kid, but her message is probably going to be ignored by just those idiots who need to hear it the most.

 
2012-12-31 11:03:35 AM
Maybe they're aiming at terrorist sattelites???
 
2012-12-31 11:03:36 AM
Meh, Mythbusters told me that celebratory gunfire can't do any harm.
 
2012-12-31 11:04:41 AM
subby - lame trolling 1/17,
You get the 1 point for having someone greenlight this

or are you stupid enough to think that the NRA and the laws say you can fire a gun like this and if you say you can't you should be deported?  Is that your stupid position?  seriously?  is that the best you got?
 
2012-12-31 11:04:52 AM

Onkel Buck: cardex: I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution

Wow you live someplace where drivers actually use them? You're lucky


Sorta I live in a place that when I drive 4 miles to work I will be behind at least 3 people that have the right turn signal one for the entire 4 miles then turn it off shortly before turning left
 
2012-12-31 11:05:16 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: It may be legal where I live, but still a very very stupid thing to do. No good berms or anything to stop a bunch of pellets in my yard.


Where on Earth do you live that discharging a weapon into the sky is legal?
 
2012-12-31 11:05:59 AM
Celebratory shooting into the air is about as stupid a form of entertainment as exists. It does, however, raise a question in my mind that, hopefully, some Fark Physicist can answer.

If you fire a gun into the air, it leaves at muzzle velocity, whatever that is for your particular firearm. When it returns to earth, it probably achieves what I have heard referred to as terminal velocity. Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?
 
2012-12-31 11:06:25 AM
They do it in Kansas City every year as well.
 
2012-12-31 11:07:13 AM
Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg
 
2012-12-31 11:08:01 AM
Obligatory Onion article: "Iraq, Kentucky Vie For World Shooting-Into-The-Air Supremacy."

Of course, that's where the cultural similarities end, right boys?
 
2012-12-31 11:08:28 AM
I call foul on using the Florida tag on this one.

A) It's no more likely that this happens in Florida than anywhere else
B) The article is about someone trying to do the right thing.
 
2012-12-31 11:09:15 AM
Why does she hate America?
 
2012-12-31 11:09:31 AM

Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg


Please stop talking about the Mythbusters penny experiment.

Anyone with 3 operational brain cells should be able to understand that the aerodynamics of bullets are different from that of coins.
 
2012-12-31 11:09:32 AM

Quigs: Her son is named Diego. Of course she should be deported.


You know what I'd do? I'd take that deal 'n' crawfish, then drill that ol' Devil Mother in the ass!

jonenge.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-12-31 11:10:00 AM

Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.


You've convinced me. I'm turning my guns into lawn sculptures. Thank you for showing me the error of my ways. It's evil of me to want to defend myself. I pay taxes so men in uniform can come help me within 20 minutes. Government is my mommy and daddy and I can count on them to always love me and know what is best for me.
 
2012-12-31 11:10:24 AM
Sorry Farktards, celebratory gunfire has never been an american tradition, it's typically observed in bassackwards countries in the middle east.
Nice try though.
 
2012-12-31 11:11:32 AM

Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.


Shut the fark up. You know damn well nobody thinks that and your idiotic comment only serves to show your stupidity to the world. Go fark yourself.
 
2012-12-31 11:11:34 AM
Shooting a bullet directly up in the air and at a 45 degree angle are going to have a VERY different effect on what is on the receiving end.
 
2012-12-31 11:11:41 AM

Mr. Right: Celebratory shooting into the air is about as stupid a form of entertainment as exists. It does, however, raise a question in my mind that, hopefully, some Fark Physicist can answer.

If you fire a gun into the air, it leaves at muzzle velocity, whatever that is for your particular firearm. When it returns to earth, it probably achieves what I have heard referred to as terminal velocity. Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?


Short answer: no.
 
2012-12-31 11:12:50 AM

cardex: I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea.


It's the same mentality that thinks that having children with your brother or sister is a good idea.
 
2012-12-31 11:14:00 AM

Kiwimann: Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg

Please stop talking about the Mythbusters penny experiment.

Anyone with 3 operational brain cells should be able to understand that the aerodynamics of bullets are different from that of coins.


wut?  terminal velocity works the same for a penny as it does for a bullet?  Why do you think it doesn't?

why would you assume the bullet would fall straight down as opposed to tumble?
 
2012-12-31 11:14:03 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hey, I live in the country now. Maybe I can give the double barrel a run out at midnight!


Firing a shotgun in the air in the country is not a big deal, that is precisely what they are for.

Firing AK47s in the air is stupid, even in the country.

I grew up around some scary rednecks and have never witnessed any "celebratory gunfire" of the kind we see in the Middle East. Headline is a troll.
 
2012-12-31 11:14:04 AM
I don't always fire guns, but when I do, I prefer to fire them into a sand/dirt backstop where the bullets will safely stop.

/Stay uninjured, my friends.
 
2012-12-31 11:14:17 AM

Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.


I'd rather 1000 toddlers die a horrible death by guns that give up my right to shoot bullets into the air.

Go back to Russia, commie.
 
2012-12-31 11:14:38 AM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Last year in my old neighborhood I stopped counting at around 40 gunshots. I was kidding earlier, my gun will not be brought out tonight. It may be legal where I live, but still a very very stupid thing to do. No good berms or anything to stop a bunch of pellets in my yard.


Safety is far more important than the law.  I haven't fired my 12 gauge off in a few years, not because it's illegal or unsafe, just because it gets rather old, and there are plenty enough others doing it.  Seriously, it's going to sound like world war 2 here at midnight.  Also, they set every fire whistle in the county off.  Dogs hate this time of year very much.
 
2012-12-31 11:14:51 AM

Mr. Right: Celebratory shooting into the air is about as stupid a form of entertainment as exists. It does, however, raise a question in my mind that, hopefully, some Fark Physicist can answer.

If you fire a gun into the air, it leaves at muzzle velocity, whatever that is for your particular firearm. When it returns to earth, it probably achieves what I have heard referred to as terminal velocity. Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?


A bullet returning to earth will not have the same destructive force as a bullet that has just left the gun because air resistance acts in opposition to the bullet's velocity vector and is a nonconservative force. Meaning air saps kinetic energy from the bullet over time. It will not add kinetic energy to the bullet.

But a bullet returning to earth can still cause a lot of damage.

Also momentum is a function of mass and velocity.
 
2012-12-31 11:15:41 AM

Mr. Right: Celebratory shooting into the air is about as stupid a form of entertainment as exists. It does, however, raise a question in my mind that, hopefully, some Fark Physicist can answer.

If you fire a gun into the air, it leaves at muzzle velocity, whatever that is for your particular firearm. When it returns to earth, it probably achieves what I have heard referred to as terminal velocity. Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?


terminal velocity is lower for bullets than muzzle velocity. Still could injure though. However, horizontal velocity isn't as affected by gravity. So if shot at an angle, it'll still easily kill.
 
2012-12-31 11:16:16 AM
What if King George decides to re-invade by air. Did you jeanyuses think of that???
 
2012-12-31 11:16:22 AM

Mr. Right: If you fire a gun into the air, it leaves at muzzle velocity, whatever that is for your particular firearm. When it returns to earth, it probably achieves what I have heard referred to as terminal velocity. Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?


Depends on the caliber to some extent but no. The trip up is determined by initial velocity (really fast) counteracted by air resistance and deceleration due to gravity. The trip down is determined by the acceleration due to gravity counteracted by the air resistance. 'Terminal velocity' is when the effect of acceleration is equal to the effect of the increase in air resistance.
 
2012-12-31 11:16:34 AM
Yeah, the attempted prevention of all accidents is totally worth our freedoms. What I really want to see is a new Federal Helmet Law. Everyone must wear helmets, all the time.
 
2012-12-31 11:17:02 AM
Her son, Diego, was hit by a stray bullet in front of their family's home in Tampa last year.

Apparently some gun owners have a problem with targeting "up".
 
2012-12-31 11:17:06 AM

computerguyUT: Sorry Farktards, celebratory gunfire has never been an american tradition, it's typically observed in bassackwards countries in the middle east.


Happened in St. Charles, Missouri when I was growing up there in the 70s. I can't say that it was a deeply-held tradition, per se, but it happened.
 
2012-12-31 11:17:07 AM
Not sure I want to live in a country where firing a gun into the air is acceptable, yet a urine balloon trebuchet gets shut down by the cops on the third try.

/no you may not steal that for your band name
 
2012-12-31 11:18:31 AM

cardex: I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution


Celebratory gunfire violates three of the Four Rules.

Violate one rule, and you may have an expensive and/or embarrassing misadventure.

Violate two of the rules, and you may upgrade misadventure to a disaster that can't be fixed with mere money. If you are lucky enough to avoid a stupid accident, anyone that sees you should tell you to pack up your guns and don't come back until you're not an asshole.

Violate three or four rules intentionally or negligently? You're not going to stop being an asshole any time soon. A person would reasonably think that you're immediate danger to anyone around you. Assuming you survive to see a judge, I'd support the due process of law to see that we don't have to put up with that again.

It's not a problem with guns. It's the loose nut on the trigger.
 
2012-12-31 11:21:09 AM

Diogenes: Her son, Diego, was hit by a stray bullet in front of their family's home in Tampa last year.

Apparently some gun owners have a problem with targeting "up".


Either that, or Tampa isn't the mecca of dead-still air as which it was sold in the brochures....
 
2012-12-31 11:22:41 AM

Mr. Right: Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?


The consensus answer among Mythbuster fans and self-appointed internet physicists (I'm both) is that a falling bullet or bullet fragment can move very fast indeed, certainly enough to hurt you in some way requiring medical attention, but that it wouldn't be moving fast enough to pierce the skull. Fracture it, maybe, if the bullet were heavy enough, but not break through to the brain.

The other problem is that bullets fired into the air must be very nearly vertical for this to be true. Observe this delightful clip art of a cowboy engaging in celebratory gunfire.

i.istockimg.com

He appears to be shooting his guns at approximately 50-60 degrees from the horizontal. Those bullets would retain considerable x-axis velocity as they dropped to the ground. For practical purposes, being hit by one of these bullets would be the almost as good as getting shot the old-fashioned way.
 
2012-12-31 11:22:49 AM

kombat_unit: Mr. Right: Celebratory shooting into the air is about as stupid a form of entertainment as exists. It does, however, raise a question in my mind that, hopefully, some Fark Physicist can answer.

If you fire a gun into the air, it leaves at muzzle velocity, whatever that is for your particular firearm. When it returns to earth, it probably achieves what I have heard referred to as terminal velocity. Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?

Short answer: no.


Thanks. When I was a young lad, we had an archery instructor who explained the dangers of shooting an arrow into the air and he allowed as how the arrow coming down was as dangerous as going up but arrows from the old recurved bows in the hands of 10 year olds don't exactly leave the bowstring at the same velocity as a bullet from a rifle. But we were given the safety lecture anyway.
 
2012-12-31 11:23:19 AM
Subby's news source failed to mention that celebratory gunfire is illegal. Link to a more useful news source: Link
 
2012-12-31 11:23:20 AM
I just noticed the article says the boy was hit by celebratory gunfire *last year*. Would it have been last year or this year?
 
2012-12-31 11:24:00 AM
The Tale of Genji was a hot one too.

/oldest school
 
2012-12-31 11:24:42 AM
Those pussies will be able to feel my Freedom from two neighborhoods away! YEEHAW!!!
 
2012-12-31 11:25:06 AM
you don't fire any weapon without knowing where the projectile is going and what it may hit.
 
2012-12-31 11:26:32 AM
I'd like to think that I live in a country where celebratory gunfire was a befuddling habit of foreigners in a foreign land. I'd like that, but it isn't true. I hear enough of it here in South Dumf*ckistan to make it clear that the South will never rise again.

In fact, that's how I knew that Fox News had called the election for the great usurper, as the loyal minions of that fine journalistic beacon took to the streets to fire away their butt-hurt that night. "Take these guns, I dares ya, Obamuh!"
 
2012-12-31 11:27:44 AM
This is what really farking stupid people think, i.e. the type that fire bullets in the air:
"Thought them bullets went off into space"
 
2012-12-31 11:30:58 AM

Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg


Yes, pretty much. If you fire a gun straight up into the air, the bullet will fall back down at terminal velocity. If it hits you in the head it will hurt, but it won't kill you. However, if you fire it off at an angle, even if you're pointing it pretty high up in the sky, it can skill maintain a ballistic trajectory and keep enough speed when to kill someone when it comes back down to the ground.
 
2012-12-31 11:31:28 AM

Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.


Yes, it takes a special kind of stupid, but in my experience (California, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Illinois, New Jersey) it's much more common in Hispanic neighborhoods.

If a bullet goes straight up, it comes down relatively slowly, but even a slight angle off vertical and it doesn't.
 
2012-12-31 11:33:45 AM
photos1.blogger.com
Don't fire your guns at flying saucers: you could trigger an interstellar war.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 11:36:13 AM

You Must Construct Additional Pylons.: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

Your one of those idiots that doesn't know about these things called blanks aren't you?

I blast my Benelli with blanks every NYE and you know how many people get hurt? 0.

Fireworks kill and injure how many? Infinity billion.

Don't talk about responsible gun ownership if you dont know shiat about the subject in the first place.


Yes, that's why the kid was shot in the head.  Because of blanks.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 11:37:25 AM

dofus: I call foul on using the Florida tag on this one.

A) It's no more likely that this happens in Florida than anywhere else
B) The article is about someone trying to do the right thing.


You don't live in Florida do you?  Certainly not near Tampa.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 11:38:31 AM

Mr. Right: Celebratory shooting into the air is about as stupid a form of entertainment as exists. It does, however, raise a question in my mind that, hopefully, some Fark Physicist can answer.

If you fire a gun into the air, it leaves at muzzle velocity, whatever that is for your particular firearm. When it returns to earth, it probably achieves what I have heard referred to as terminal velocity. Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?


No, it's just barely enough to penetrate the skull generally.
 
2012-12-31 11:38:41 AM
Speaking of blanks, there're a couple of cheap sources of blanks in 7.62x54r...that'd be a fun celebratory hail o' gunfire!
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-12-31 11:39:22 AM

Diogenes: Her son, Diego, was hit by a stray bullet in front of their family's home in Tampa last year.

Apparently some gun owners have a problem with targeting "up".


Why?  Do you think it would go into orbit if it was aimed up?
 
2012-12-31 11:39:48 AM

dofus: Mr. Right: If you fire a gun into the air, it leaves at muzzle velocity, whatever that is for your particular firearm. When it returns to earth, it probably achieves what I have heard referred to as terminal velocity. Force being a function of mass and speed, does a bullet returning to earth have as much destructive power as one fired at a target?

Depends on the caliber to some extent but no. The trip up is determined by initial velocity (really fast) counteracted by air resistance and deceleration due to gravity. The trip down is determined by the acceleration due to gravity counteracted by the air resistance. 'Terminal velocity' is when the effect of acceleration is equal to the effect of the increase in air resistance.


Found this study the army did in the 20s about the issue
 
2012-12-31 11:41:07 AM
If you feel the need to fire bullets into the air to celebrate, fire them into your skull instead. At least it will lower the stupid in the gene pool.
 
2012-12-31 11:41:40 AM
brother-in-law is a roofing contractor in D.C. he sends me pictures, now and again, of bullets they find in built up roofs downtown. always makes me chuckle.

.45's, maybe because they're more easily found
 
2012-12-31 11:43:31 AM
I don't mind as long as they yell "YI-YI-YI-YI-YI" really loud to warn bystanders.
 
2012-12-31 11:45:21 AM
This thread is turning classic

Idiotic gun owners, bad physics, and second amendment masturbation
 
2012-12-31 11:46:15 AM
was listening to the radio recently, and the dj said, keep your guns at home and locked up this new years. i love you new orleans, but please don't let them drop bullets on my head.

/ plans on listening to Mingus' Oh Lord Don't Let Them Drop That Atomic Bomb On Me
 
2012-12-31 11:48:33 AM

natazha: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

Yes, it takes a special kind of stupid, but in my experience (California, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Illinois, New Jersey) it's much more common in Hispanic neighborhoods.

If a bullet goes straight up, it comes down relatively slowly, but even a slight angle off vertical and it doesn't.


A girl died in Denver in 2008 because the guy was too drunk to fire straight up. Plus, it was a high-powered rifle. Travelled 300 yards, through a wall, and struck the girl.
 
2012-12-31 11:49:47 AM

radiumsoup: The Only Sane Man In Florida: Idiotic headline.

Seconded. One of the worst attempts at a straw man ever, and it's trollness is about as effective as my wife's attempts to get me to eat collared greens. I award it no points.


Alleyoop: Subby's news source failed to mention that celebratory gunfire is illegal. Link to a more useful news source: Link



Thirded. Guess Smitty likes firing his gun into the air.
 
2012-12-31 11:49:54 AM
Great. Now I have a "Blood, Sweat and Tears" earworm.

/"What goes up - must come down..."

//not a bad one, though
 
2012-12-31 11:54:45 AM
CSB

I used to work with a guy when he was a kid got shot in the ass on New Year's eve from a falling bullet. I'm sure if it was a few inches over it would've penetrated his skull. He used to show his x-ray of his ass showing the bullet.
 
2012-12-31 11:55:42 AM
Seems reasnable but only if it can emcompass upon the dimwits who ultimately devolve into teen-tards by ending the night's entertainment with a trip to the hospital ER for the sole purpose of extracting a bottle rocket from their orbital (or some other orifice) aquired during the annual beer pong/bottle rocket battle royale.
 
2012-12-31 11:56:15 AM
Don't the Military and/or police in the US fire off guns in celebration/honor/remembrance all the friggin time?

Or is that just movie/TV?
 
2012-12-31 11:59:46 AM

Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.


Go back to your World of Warcraft- the adults are trying to maintain an intelligent conversation here.
 
2012-12-31 12:02:26 PM

Kiwimann: Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg

Please stop talking about the Mythbusters penny experiment.

Anyone with 3 operational brain cells should be able to understand that the aerodynamics of bullets are different from that of coins.


Agreed, but a bullet still has the potential to tumble in the air and once it has reached the peak of it's flight straight up and lost all kinetic energy it will only reach a speed that it's mass and aerodynamics will allow, certainly not enough to penetrate a skull. I'm not kidding. Understanding gravity is pretty simple even for a dummy like me.
 
2012-12-31 12:03:41 PM

liam76: fanbladesaresharp: cardex: I will never understand the special kind of stupid it takes to think firing a gun in a random direction is a good idea. It's one of the things like driving with your turn signal on that should have the death penalty with no appeal process for the good of evolution

By god you're right. Well set off M-80s instead.

I hope you aren't comparing the dangers of an M-80 with shooting randomly into the sky.


Are you really gonna go there? Are you truly prepared to back a dumbass statement like "more people get hit by random gunfire (in a non-wartime setting) than are injured playing with fireworks"? Our ER begs to differ.
 
2012-12-31 12:05:44 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Don't the Military and/or police in the US fire off guns in celebration/honor/remembrance all the friggin time?

Or is that just movie/TV?


Those are blanks they use in gun salutes. They don't fire off volleys of 7 to 21 .30-caliber rounds into the Arlington sky every 15 minutes!
 
2012-12-31 12:06:03 PM
nekom
I can confirm that it is common every new years in southwestern Pennsylvania as well. Only other time I heard it was the night bin laden bit the dust.


They don't call it Fayeetenam for nothing.
 
2012-12-31 12:08:44 PM
I like some celebatory gunfire on new years, but I do it proper - through a target into a backstop, anytime I'm shooting.

If you MUST fire into the air, use a shotgun loaded with the lightest birdshot you can find.
 
2012-12-31 12:09:10 PM

Fark_Guy_Rob: Don't the Military and/or police in the US fire off guns in celebration/honor/remembrance all the friggin time?

Or is that just movie/TV?


They usually fire blanks.
 
2012-12-31 12:09:21 PM

clowncar on fire: Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.

Go back to your World of Warcraft- the adults are trying to maintain an intelligent conversation here.


Do you get a thrill from the danger associated with sodomizing a loaded 14 gauge shotgun? It must be quite a rush knowing that it could go off at any moment and blow off your "man" parts.
 
2012-12-31 12:11:35 PM
realityfreaks.tvmsnbcmedia.msn.com

Fark_Guy_Rob: Don't the Military and/or police in the US fire off guns in celebration/honor/remembrance all the friggin time?

Or is that just movie/TV?


You're thinking of The Mythbusters
 
2012-12-31 12:15:13 PM

computerguyUT: Sorry Farktards, celebratory gunfire has never been an american tradition, it's typically observed in bassackwards countries in the middle east.
Nice try though.


Zarquon's Flat Tire: nekom: gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida

I can confirm that it is common every new years in southwestern Pennsylvania as well.  Only other time I heard it was the night bin laden bit the dust.

Last year in my old neighborhood I stopped counting at around 40 gunshots. I was kidding earlier, my gun will not be brought out tonight. It may be legal where I live, but still a very very stupid thing to do. No good berms or anything to stop a bunch of pellets in my yard.


So how do these posts combine. One says it isn't, one says it is.
 
2012-12-31 12:15:32 PM

titwrench: Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.

Shut the fark up. You know damn well nobody thinks that and your idiotic comment only serves to show your stupidity to the world. Go fark yourself.


Looks like he caught you masturbating. Don't be embarrassed.
 
2012-12-31 12:16:58 PM

AxemRed: Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg

Yes, pretty much. If you fire a gun straight up into the air, the bullet will fall back down at terminal velocity. If it hits you in the head it will hurt, but it won't kill you. However, if you fire it off at an angle, even if you're pointing it pretty high up in the sky, it can skill maintain a ballistic trajectory and keep enough speed when to kill someone when it comes back down to the ground.


Well said, thank you.
 
2012-12-31 12:17:05 PM

gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida


It is in New Orleans.  You can definitely hear it, and every few years, someone ends up with a wound from a falling bullet.  Locals always advise visitors to be inside when the clock hits midnight.
 
2012-12-31 12:23:02 PM

Zarquon's Flat Tire: Hey, I live in the country now. Maybe I can give the double barrel a run out at midnight!


Hey, at least a shotgun is a more or less "safe" gun to fire at the sky. Unless you're firing slugs or heavy shot, it's just a spray of little BB's coming to Earth. With a bullet, that thing is screaming by the time it hits the ground, and due to the fact that it's coming from above, there's a high percentage chance that it's going to hit the head, since from above, it's probably at least 40% of the available area.
 
2012-12-31 12:24:00 PM

Diogenes: Her son, Diego, was hit by a stray bullet in front of their family's home in Tampa last year.

Apparently some gun owners have a problem with targeting "up".


OH, they target "up" quite well, there's this new saying going around though: 'What goes up, must come down.'. It's how these almost all become head injuries.
 
2012-12-31 12:25:56 PM

WhippingBoy: Do you get a thrill from the danger associated with sodomizing a loaded 14 gauge shotgun? It must be quite a rush knowing that it could go off at any moment and blow off your "man" parts.


I'm sure there's a clinical term used to describe people who insist on assigning sexualization fantasies to someone who they don't agree with instead of participating in reasoned discourse, but I am not a psychologist and therefore don't have the requisite vocabulary, so I'll use the vernacular term: asshat.
 
2012-12-31 12:27:09 PM

natazha: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

Yes, it takes a special kind of stupid, but in my experience (California, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Illinois, New Jersey) it's much more common in Hispanic neighborhoods.


This has been my experience as well. Perhaps this was the elusive "joke" that subby was attempting to pull off with his weak trolltastic headline.
 
2012-12-31 12:28:30 PM

WhippingBoy: clowncar on fire: Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.

Go back to your World of Warcraft- the adults are trying to maintain an intelligent conversation here.

Do you get a thrill from the danger associated with sodomizing a loaded 14 gauge shotgun? It must be quite a rush knowing that it could go off at any moment and blow off your "man" parts.


Anti-gun Warcraft fans a whole new breed of stupid. Why is it the gun opposition crowd likes to toss in sexual inuendo whenever they describe relationship between gun owners and their hobby? Could it be that, like having never actually fired a gun, their sexual expirience is that limited as well?

In all seriousness: I've plinked a few cans in my youth, watched some half decent shooters at the range and had the opportunity to handle an assault rifle in AF basic training marksman ship class. It was fun but "meh" not much bang for the buck as a hobby that I would pursue. My dad had an old 22 rifle we plinked cans with once in a while, but mostly kept to put down rabid racoons and rats when we lived in the country. I've always lived in safe neighborhoods so have never felt the need to arm myself so yeah- i don't own any firearms or am part of any gun culture.

What I do dislike is idiots who make baseless hateful comments about things they apparently know nothing about. Rather than make stupid statements, why not visit a gun range and try your hand at shooting a paper target- that is if you have your sexual libido in check. You might just discover a new skill or hobby, or- like myself-- find yourself saying "meh, not for me".
 
2012-12-31 12:31:21 PM

gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida


Inner city folk, 99% of guns fired in the air happen with a typical brand of stupid person, mainly those who already have illegal guns.
 
2012-12-31 12:40:14 PM
I plan on shooting the tops off every tree within a quarter mile of here. Screw 'em.
 
2012-12-31 12:42:52 PM
Agreed, but a bullet still has the potential to tumble in the air and once it has reached the peak of it's flight straight up and lost all kinetic energy it will only reach a speed that it's mass and aerodynamics will allow, certainly not enough to penetrate a skull. I'm not kidding. Understanding gravity is pretty simple even for a dummy like me.

The thing about terminal velocity is it depends on the object being dropped and a solid metal object has a pretty good density and high speed before air resistance counteracts it, around 200mph (straight down), which is easily fast enough to penetrate the skull. I don't know why this terminal velocity thing is so hard to understand. If you ran the calculation of kinetic energy based on that speed and then that amount focused to a point, it's easily enough to break through the skull and actually go a good distance in depending on the caliber/mass. Combine this with the fact that the head represents a good percentage of the target and it's a particularly vulnerable part of the skull itself, and you get a mortality rate of 32% compared to about 4% for regular gunshot wounds which are fired directly at a person. But "responsible gun owners" really are a minority especially with alcohol added, and this silly belief that guns fired straight up are harmless. But most people who collect and shoot guns straight up failed at something in life, probably including physics. Anyway, somewhere in the 2nd amendment it says firing a gun straight up is an inalienable human right, protected by God, Mickey Mouse and the gold standard.
 
2012-12-31 12:45:52 PM

dr.zaeus: natazha: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

Yes, it takes a special kind of stupid, but in my experience (California, Nevada, Arizona, Oregon, Illinois, New Jersey) it's much more common in Hispanic neighborhoods.

This has been my experience as well. Perhaps this was the elusive "joke" that subby was attempting to pull off with his weak trolltastic headline.


We have similar celebrations like this in Louisville involving the discharging of weapons in built up urban areas. I think it was during Passover. No that's not the celebration- silly me-- I meant during Drive-by. They all get out, usually in cars but sometimes on foot, and fire their weapons toward their neighbor's dwelling. Seems like a dangerous part of the Drive-by celebration though- don't you think? It is nice of them to cap off the evening by inviting the police and EMS over later that night as part of the festivities.
 
2012-12-31 12:49:14 PM

Zeb Hesselgresser: brother-in-law is a roofing contractor in D.C. he sends me pictures, now and again, of bullets they find in built up roofs downtown. always makes me chuckle.

.45's, maybe because they're more easily found


My buddy used to rent a place in downtown Phx. The place had these cool cooper roofs, and he was sitting out on the balcony one New Year's Eve, listening to the Sweet Sound of Morons, when her heard a whistling noise, followed by a banging noise as something hit the roof somewhere above his head and clanked and rolled down into the rain gutter... Then, 2 or 3 years later, he and I were at a friend's house for the holiday festivities, and we were about 3 blocks from where the girl in Phx got hit in the head and killed, prompting the law that went into effect there.

I don't think he goes outside at midnight on New Year's anymore, after one near miss, and a second one just close enough to make you wonder what would have happened if the shooter had aimed his/her gun just a few degrees off...

At least here in Utah, they let people buy and set off fireworks, to scratch that 'make something go boom' itch.
 
2012-12-31 12:51:20 PM

Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.


No, I shoot into a several hundred feet thick bern, full of an assortment of material. Now the rednecks around here shoot into the air. Luckily it takes a couple of them out in the process.
 
2012-12-31 01:13:02 PM
Shoot all you want on New Year's Eve, just please try to aim it at SOMETHING rather than shooting into the air willy-nilly.
 
2012-12-31 01:16:00 PM

limeyfellow: Coming on a Bicycle: You guys actually fire guns in the air at new year's? Ok. 1) Don't come to me again with that talk about responsible gun ownership, and 2) you guys and the Taliban, you deserve each other.

Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

No, I shoot into a several hundred feet thick bern, full of an assortment of material. Now the rednecks around here shoot into the air. Luckily it takes a couple of them out in the process.


No no, the thing is - you have a gun to avert and/or counter danger. You shoot with it when you do that, or when you practice. Any other occasion is just not responsible - you can never, never tell what you're going to hit.
 
2012-12-31 01:32:21 PM

clowncar on fire: Anti-gun Warcraft fans a whole new breed of stupid. Why is it the gun opposition crowd likes to toss in sexual inuendo whenever they describe relationship between gun owners and their hobby?


To the civilized world, the American obsession with guns borders on sexual fetishization. From an outsider's perspective, it appears similar to the individual who covets women's shoes (and cannot obtain sexual release unless masturbating to said shoes). Hence, the connection to unconventional sexual practices when describing the relationship between (American) gun owners and their hobby.

Q.E.D.
 
2012-12-31 01:33:50 PM

gshepnyc: titwrench: Big Dave: I thought we'd decided that dead kids are just a small price to pay for the pleasure gun owners get from their hobby/masturbatory fantasies.

Shut the fark up. You know damn well nobody thinks that and your idiotic comment only serves to show your stupidity to the world. Go fark yourself.

Looks like he caught you masturbating. Don't be embarrassed.


Oh look, another moron with nothing intelligent to add. "Hur hur all gun owners love dead children and Jack off to guns and ammo magazine." Just shut the fark up you aren't contributing and you look like a god damned idiot.
 
2012-12-31 01:40:41 PM

gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida


You apparently have not lived in this country very long. This and this.
 
2012-12-31 01:42:52 PM
Have you been shopping for ammunition lately? Since that Connecticut thing the price of ammo has gone up 50% or more. Re-goddamn-diculous. All the panic-buyers and the vendors exploiting their panic. Right about soon there won't be any ammo in the stores to buy at any price. CheaperThanDirt is sold out of all the popular calibers unless you want to buy some exotic 9mm thrice-coated super-match 99.9% tolerance stuff at a buck per round, but that was already expensive to begin with.

No goddamn good.
 
2012-12-31 01:55:13 PM

WhippingBoy: To the civilized world, the American obsession with guns borders on sexual fetishization. From an outsider's perspective, it appears similar to the individual who covets women's shoes (and cannot obtain sexual release unless masturbating to said shoes). Hence, the connection to unconventional sexual practices when describing the relationship between (American) gun owners and their hobby.

Q.E.D.


Ah, yes, the tired old "I don't understand you, so I'll just compare you to something else I find abhorrent and ignore the red herring aspect of the whole thing" argument. Brilliant. You should write a book.
 
2012-12-31 02:31:05 PM
The Only Sane Man In Florida
radiumsoup
Mrbogey
kombat_unit
tenpoundsofcheese
et al...


Oh yes, the butthurt is strong with these gun owners. Their last inkling of humanity is about to seep out, and it just might make them reconsider their worthless "hobby".

Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.
 
2012-12-31 02:34:25 PM
Yes, terminal velocity is not as fast as muzzle velocity. That being said...

Earlier this year, I found a .38 hollow point bullet on my front porch. A friend does forensic work for the local PD, so I had him take a look at it. He said it was fired nearly straight up... It was not as deformed as it would have been if fired horizontally, but it had striations and powder scorch. We looked around on my porch and found a 1/8-inch divot with a fragment of the bullet embedded in it.

I think I would prefer NOT being hit with that, thank you very much. Sure, it probably wouldn't kill me. It would still hurt, and might even crack my skull and/or leave a metal shard under my skin.

I am a firm believer in the right to own firearms, but I expect responsibility from gun owners. If I had *ever* fired a gun at *anything* other than a practice target or an animal I was hunting, my dad would have whipped my *ass*. He would have done the same if I had ever fired without knowing what was behind my target, or fired up into the air.
 
2012-12-31 02:50:11 PM
And gun owners prove again that they are unable to be part of a civilized society.
 
2012-12-31 02:56:31 PM

radiumsoup: The Only Sane Man In Florida: Idiotic headline.

Seconded. One of the worst attempts at a straw man ever, and it's trollness is about as effective as my wife's attempts to get me to eat collared greens. I award it no points.


I like mustered greens better. Or maybe Swiss Charred...
 
2012-12-31 03:13:10 PM
An acquaintance's fiancee was killed by such gunfire this last 4th of July celebration, so I am getting exactly zero kicks out of this thread.

/so farking sad
//absolute waste of a beautiful life
 
2012-12-31 03:56:17 PM
With the current ammo drought, I highly doubt there'll be much of that nonsense going on this year, coupled with the fact the cops are gonna have a hard-on for anything firearm related.
 
2012-12-31 04:05:17 PM
If you're gonna fire your gun, please do it in a shooting range, or at least do it while hunting an animal (or a criminal)
 
2012-12-31 04:15:02 PM

GreenSun: If you're gonna fire your gun, please do it in a shooting range, or at least do it while hunting an animal (or a criminal)


"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

At this point, you remind whoever parroted this nonsense in your face that most of the perpetrators of these recent mass shootings (in addition to Hitler) shot themselves.
 
2012-12-31 04:24:39 PM

JudgeItoBox: Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.


Moral high ground, everyone
 
BHK
2012-12-31 04:33:50 PM

Kiwimann: Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg

Please stop talking about the Mythbusters penny experiment.

Anyone with 3 operational brain cells should be able to understand that the aerodynamics of bullets are different from that of coins.


They did do a test on the firing of bullets into the air and the myth was confirmed, plausible, and busted. It was the only test to receive all three ratings. It all depends on the angle. If it fired precisely vertical, it's not going to be much different than the penny, despite your assert that the aerodynamics are different. However, that would be a difficult feat for most shooters to achieve, so it's not a safe practice by any means except in a controlled experiment with all conditions accounted for.
 
2012-12-31 05:07:58 PM

Ohlookabutterfly: Didnt the mythbusters determine that a coin dropped from the empire state building would barely leve a bruise if it hit your pointy little head, gun haters? Terminal velocity plus wind resistance and all that crap? Lets hear from some internet authority-on-everythings explain how stupid I am using a pantload of verbal smoke and mirrors.

/bet that "stray bullet" was fired from within 300m and at a tragectory much lower than 45deg


The problem is that you have to fire directly upwards for a bullet to go up and then tumble down. If you're off, the bullet will travel in a parabola and can still be quite lethal when it comes down.
 
2012-12-31 05:16:05 PM

oMaJoJ: JudgeItoBox: Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.

Moral high ground, everyone


Worked for Palin and the teatards, didn't it?
 
2012-12-31 05:35:10 PM

JudgeItoBox: The Only Sane Man In Florida
radiumsoup
Mrbogey
kombat_unit
tenpoundsofcheese
et al...

Oh yes, the butthurt is strong with these gun owners. Their last inkling of humanity is about to seep out, and it just might make them reconsider their worthless "hobby".

Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.


You are a bitter mean little troll. There is nothing I can say that can further drive home the point how sad and lonely your life is.
 
pla
2012-12-31 06:10:25 PM
Coming on a Bicycle : Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

You might want to explain that to the local veterans who, every 11/11, hang a wreath at the local memorial and then offer up a 21-gun salute.

Oh, but for "memorial" or "mourning" purposes, that makes it magically less barbaric, right?
 
2012-12-31 06:10:30 PM

Mrbogey: JudgeItoBox: The Only Sane Man In Florida
radiumsoup
Mrbogey
kombat_unit
tenpoundsofcheese
et al...

Oh yes, the butthurt is strong with these gun owners. Their last inkling of humanity is about to seep out, and it just might make them reconsider their worthless "hobby".

Who am I kidding? We can't trust them to make that decision on their own. Remember: If you know any gun owners, it's your First Amendment Privilege™ to shame them until they shoot themselves do the right thing.

You are a bitter mean little troll. There is nothing I can say that can further drive home the point how sad and lonely your life is.


You should go out and shoot something or someone. You'll feel better.
 
pla
2012-12-31 06:18:46 PM
...That said, TFA makes a good suggestion. You never fire a live round unless you can see both your target and what it will hit if you miss (ie, always sight below the horizon unless you know damn sure you can't hit anything for the next mile or two - with birdshot as a notable exception, because it loses energy so fast you only need a few hundred yards of clearance).

But subby? Go fark yourself, eh?
 
2012-12-31 06:27:52 PM
I will be engaging in celebratory gunfire tonight. I'm not stupid; I don't fire into the air, I fire into a large body of water at about a 70 degree angle.
 
2012-12-31 06:34:54 PM

Mrbogey: You are a bitter mean little troll. There is nothing I can say that can further drive home the point how sad and lonely your life is.


Oh, you sure nailed it, didn't you? But my life probably isn't as lonely as the lives of the parents in Newtown who just spent their first Christmas without their murdered kids. Keep banging the drum for guns, though! Lord LaPierre won't be happy til all the world's little kiddies are armed. Add pla to the butthurt list while we're at it. You're all hypocrites.

"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

Meditate on those words and do the right thing.
 
2012-12-31 06:52:20 PM

WhippingBoy: You should go out and shoot something or someone. You'll feel better.


I feel fine. It's the other guy who apparently has gone insane with rage. I blame poor parentage.
 
2012-12-31 06:57:17 PM

Coming on a Bicycle: firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.


1.bp.blogspot.com

To fire a gun in the air and hear the lamentation of the Farkers.
 
pla
2012-12-31 07:04:55 PM
JudgeItoBox : "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." Meditate on those words and do the right thing.

Okay...
Ooooommmmmmm
Happy thoughts
oooooommmmmm...

Yup. I feel at peace with myself. You should try that, it might help with that chronic arsepain you keep bringing up.
 
2012-12-31 07:50:54 PM

steamingpile: gunsmack: Celebratory gunfire? Is that even a thing in this country?

/ oh, Florida

Inner city folk, 99% of guns fired in the air happen with a typical brand of stupid person, mainly those who already have illegal guns.


Oh, morons in the suburbs do this shiat, too. I live in an upper-middle-class neighborhood, and you'll think we're under attack come midnight.

/stupidity knows no racial or socioeconomic bounds
 
2012-12-31 08:05:47 PM

WhippingBoy: To the civilized world, the American obsession with guns borders on sexual fetishization. From an outsider's perspective, it appears similar to the individual who covets women's shoes (and cannot obtain sexual release unless masturbating to said shoes). Hence, the connection to unconventional sexual practices when describing the relationship between (American) gun owners and their hobby.


An obviously desperate attempt to disparage constitutional rights of a country that helps maintain a civilized world. You are awarded no points.
 
2012-12-31 08:11:54 PM
I see. Asking people to refrain from firing a weapon in a random direction while likely intoxicated is trolling.

Fark neocon logic has gone to plaid.
 
pla
2012-12-31 08:18:09 PM
Void_Beavis : I see. Asking people to refrain from firing a weapon in a random direction while likely intoxicated is trolling.

Just about every response so far has said something along the lines of "good idea, Mrs. Duran; Fark you, Subby".


Fark neocon logic has gone to plaid.

Reading comprehension. You can haz it?
 
2012-12-31 08:24:25 PM

pla: Coming on a Bicycle : Seriously guys, firing guns for celebration purposes is barbaric.

You might want to explain that to the local veterans who, every 11/11, hang a wreath at the local memorial and then offer up a 21-gun salute.

Oh, but for "memorial" or "mourning" purposes, that makes it magically less barbaric, right?


No, what makes it less barbaric is that they use blanks for a 21 gun salute.

If you want to celebrate using blanks, go crazy. I think what people are concerned about is the random discharge of live ammunition.
 
2013-01-01 12:27:58 AM

Void_Beavis: I see. Asking people to refrain from firing a weapon in a random direction while likely intoxicated is trolling.

Fark neocon logic has gone to plaid.


No; implying that all individuals who advocate civilian firearm ownership freedoms oppose prohibiting reckless discharge of firearms for celebratory purposes is "trolling".
 
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