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2012-12-31 07:15:43 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: I wonder if there are many public schools that even offer driver's ed courses nowadays. They were very common when I attended high school (graduated in 1970), but there were no high schools in my area that offered courses when my son was in high school (graduated in 1997). If you wanted to learn to drive you had to either find a friend or family member willing to teach you or pay to attend a driving school.


FWIW my HS offered a driving course when I graduated 7 years ago. It was expensive(over $500 USD), but most people I went to school with found it worth(their parents) money.

/waited till I was 18, paid $75 total to get my license
 
2012-12-31 07:16:02 PM  

NightOwl2255: Once again, you claimed that in the case of a rear-end collision, the cops issues tickets to both drivers. You didn't qualify the statement, you didn't say "sometimes" or they "may". You stated as a fact and even linked to guidelines as if the guidelines would prove your claim. They didn't. You have yet to produce anything that even remotely backs-up that claim. Using your cite, I have shown that according to the guideline there is nothing that would prove such a claim and in fact, following too closely is one of the numerated instances when the cop may, based on the physical evidence, issue traffic tickets at the crash scene. Now, it would kind of silly to think that based on the physical evidence of following too closely they would issue tickets to both drivers. And I see that with this gem, "They do not assign fault", you have gone completely off the range. I mean, you're not even in the same area code of the range.
Care to try again? Hint: when you start with the pics, you're waving the white flag.


"You're right." Clearly nothing I say will convince you otherwise. So I'm exiting the conversation. If you want to take that as "proving me wrong", then more power to you.
 
2012-12-31 07:23:09 PM  

BronyMedic: "You're right." Clearly nothing I say will convince you otherwise. So I'm exiting the conversation. If you want to take that as "proving me wrong", then more power to you.


No worries, I won't take it as proven you wrong. I will take the fact that I proved you wrong as proving you wrong.

Good luck out there.
 
2012-12-31 07:24:11 PM  

NightOwl2255: No worries, I won't take it as proven you wrong. I will take the fact that I proved you wrong as proving you wrong.

Good luck out there.


Whatever floats your boat. It's nice to know that someone from Oklahoma City is so sure he knows what goes on three states away, though. I'm in awe of your psychic powers.
 
2012-12-31 07:27:29 PM  

Rye_: If you're driving 65 in the left lane on a highway, I guarantee that you're impeding traffic


Only if 'traffic' is speeding. Which is illegal.

Do I need to post the "Stop breaking the law, a**hole" pic again?
 
2012-12-31 07:30:16 PM  

fredklein: Rye_: If you're driving 65 in the left lane on a highway, I guarantee that you're impeding traffic

Only if 'traffic' is speeding. Which is illegal.

Do I need to post the "Stop breaking the law, a**hole" pic again?


And again, it doesn't matter. Flow of traffic and speed limits are two different concepts as far as application of the law is concerned. This is why many freeways also have posted speed minimums.
 
2012-12-31 07:33:50 PM  

fredklein: Rye_: If you're driving 65 in the left lane on a highway, I guarantee that you're impeding traffic

Only if 'traffic' is speeding. Which is illegal.

Do I need to post the "Stop breaking the law, a**hole" pic again?


see my earlier post.

The_Original_Roxtar: to the "if everyone does the speed limit" idiots:

speedometers are not perfect.. and they are based on tire diameter which changes as the tire wears
Lets say yours reads 3% fast, and mine reads 3% slow

so, 60 x .97 = 58.2
and 60 x 1.03 = 61.8
61.8-58.2 = 3.6
that's a 3.6 MPH difference and we're both going "60"

 
2012-12-31 07:36:12 PM  

fredklein: Rye_: If you're driving 65 in the left lane on a highway, I guarantee that you're impeding traffic

Only if 'traffic' is speeding. Which is illegal.

Do I need to post the "Stop breaking the law, a**hole" pic again?


Why even drive in the left lane, then? Everyone in the right lane is doing exactly what you want and expect them to. O...ohhhhh...you're enforcing.

Wait...let me find my "Stop driving like a stubborn coont" pic.
 
2012-12-31 07:36:45 PM  

NightOwl2255: BronyMedic: "You're right." Clearly nothing I say will convince you otherwise. So I'm exiting the conversation. If you want to take that as "proving me wrong", then more power to you.

No worries, I won't take it as proven you wrong. I will take the fact that I proved you wrong as proving you wrong.

Good luck out there.


Wow.
You must be a blast at parties.
 
2012-12-31 07:37:30 PM  

BronyMedic: Whatever floats your boat. It's nice to know that someone from Oklahoma City is so sure he knows what goes on three states away, though. I'm in awe of your psychic powers.


Never said I did, in fact I said I didn't. What I did say, correctly, was that your claim was not backed up by your cite. Your claim, not mine. Your cite, not mine. Let's keep our eye on the ball, shall we?

You can try and move the goal post (is this were I post a cute picture?) or walk back your statement, but it will not change the fact that you made a statement and cannot prove it's true.
 
2012-12-31 07:38:39 PM  

Spirit Hammer: You must be a blast at parties.


I'm a nasty little troll, I don't get invited to parties.
 
2012-12-31 07:44:41 PM  

Smoky Dragon Dish: I've logged 250,000+ miles driving on NJ highways in the past 12 years going to and from work.

The cops on the interstates/Turnpike/GSP will give you a LOT of leeway with the rules, unless you're driving while black.

Three miles is more than enough time to get over. The cop isn't going to give you a ticket for going 75 in a 65 to get out of his/her way.


I'm going to agree with you there, driving about 50,000 miles a year, mostly on the Garden State Parkway and AC Expressway.  The Parkway has been under construction/expansion for at least two years now, with 45mph signs all over, and I've never seen a construction-zone speed trap.  It'd be shooting fish in a barrel if they did, and quite the revenue builder.  But everyone goes the usual 65-75 in those zones as long as two lanes are open, and I've never seen anyone pulled over unless they desperately deserve it by driving dangerously.
 
2012-12-31 07:46:15 PM  
Point: cop gave her 3 miles to move over, that's plenty of time.

Counter points:
1) 20 y/o drivers, possibly more so for women, can be intimidated by an 18 wheeler less than 8 ft from their side door.
2) Jersey cops will break your balls like a Jewish mother-in-law, could easily see one of those guys "forcing" a ticket for speeding (which, in NJ, comes with a doubled fine in a 65 mph zone).

Judgement: cop was a douche, should have given her a warning.
 
2012-12-31 08:12:30 PM  
Do they even teach the "move to the right" rule in driver's ed? Do they ask this question on your license test? I would say this is an educational system fail more than anything.
 
2012-12-31 08:28:50 PM  

Eddie Adams from Torrance: "If we all followed that law," said Doug Groner of Hillsdale, "we'd have everybody squeezed into one right lane."

No farktard. Most European highways are 2 lanes and when people stay the fark right traffic flows 1000% better.


They don't tolerate left-lane rangers at all in many European countries. One stupid US Expat housewife I met nearly lost her license in Germany. A combination of tailgating (they have, or had, white lines to measure "safe" car distances) and being a left-lane ranger.

I also agree traffic can flow better there. A big problem on the highways here with construction is the idiot that flies up the highway for 2 miles knowing the lane is ending, only to try and force themselves into the "proper" lane at the last moment. This makes everyone hit their brakes because of the inconsiderate moron, and often halts traffic.
 
2012-12-31 08:34:49 PM  
If you're in the left lane, you're in the wrong lane.
 
2012-12-31 08:40:39 PM  

enry: If you're in the left lane, you're in the wrong lane.


"If being in the left is wrong, I don't want to be right."
 
2012-12-31 08:44:58 PM  
Where I live, trucks are limited to 55mph. If this is the case in NJ, cop gave the wrong person a ticket and the girl could have a case
 
2012-12-31 08:57:20 PM  
I like how self-disciplined Oklahoma is in terms of keeping right except when passing, or in heavy traffic, slower traffic hanging farther right. This, despite the fact the OTA pulls shiat like put the toll plaza cash lanes on the wrong side, where the passing lane suddenly becomes a cash only lane and sends 75 MPH traffic to a bypass ramp on the right, while what was the passing lane drops to 65, 55, then 45 quickly and hits a toll plaza that only takes cash. And ODOT pulling shiat like this on the freeway. Ever face a yield sign where you're stuck dumping into 65 (in theory) traffic from the passing lane? Or how about have to take a 35 MPH exit from the passing lane? Someone wasn't thinking...
 
2012-12-31 08:57:36 PM  

Watubi: Where I live, trucks are limited to 55mph. If this is the case in NJ, cop gave the wrong person a ticket and the girl could have a case


Not so in NJ on that road.
 
BBH
2012-12-31 09:08:42 PM  
If she would have gone over the speed limit, she would have been ticketed for speeding. Most of these types of laws allow for a driver to stay in the left most lane if traffic prohibits it, as was the case here.

Also in Chicago area, someone may be doing 75 in the left lane, speed limit 55 or 45 only, and you are passing. Not to mention the left hand merging on the Dan Ryan Expressway.
 
2012-12-31 09:40:31 PM  

Earguy: Watubi: Where I live, trucks are limited to 55mph. If this is the case in NJ, cop gave the wrong person a ticket and the girl could have a case

Not so in NJ on that road.


Still sounds like a co-moron situation.
 
2012-12-31 10:09:11 PM  

BBH: If she would have gone over the speed limit, she would have been ticketed for speeding. Most of these types of laws allow for a driver to stay in the left most lane if traffic prohibits it, as was the case here.

Also in Chicago area, someone may be doing 75 in the left lane, speed limit 55 or 45 only, and you are passing. Not to mention the left hand merging on the Dan Ryan Expressway.


The deal with this cop most likely is he wanted to fly and she held him up. Most cops will let you speed enough to make the pass and get over as this cop was hoping she would do so he could continue traveling 90mph. That is the case in the interstates around here, although very different on regular roads. Flint cops like to drive below the speed limit and see who passes. They won't pull you for passing them as long as you don't pass them too fast. They just like punking people.
 
2012-12-31 10:13:48 PM  
Well, I for one am getting tired of the majority of traffic sitting in the left lane. Sometimes pass 7-8 vehicles on the right at my indicated 3+ speed.  I must be invisible coming up the right lane, but worst case is one idiot pulls over and blocks both lanes. This is pretty close to actual speed according to the GPS. I constantly encounter all of the traffic in sight in the left lane.
Minnesota freeways. Constant supply of campers running 2-3 miles under speed limit and treating the right lane like they paid no taxes to use it.
And so often find 3 lanes filled side by side as a rolling roadblock for miles.

I gotta go with 2-3 miles doorhandle to doorhandle as blocking, or too braindead to drive.
 
2012-12-31 10:56:13 PM  
Drove 400 mostly highway miles for the holidays. Didn't see as much stupidity as I expected to (or I've learned to ignore it better), but I always see at least one example of people who don't know how to pass a semi.

FYI: In order to pass a truck, you have to go FASTER than the truck.

Dipshiats.
 
2012-12-31 11:06:13 PM  

hoots_toot_ochaye: kp


Then charge the truck driver for not yielding the right of way so she could pull over in front of the truck.
 
2012-12-31 11:28:25 PM  

NightOwl2255: BronyMedic: Whatever floats your boat. It's nice to know that someone from Oklahoma City is so sure he knows what goes on three states away, though. I'm in awe of your psychic powers.

Never said I did, in fact I said I didn't. What I did say, correctly, was that your claim was not backed up by your cite. Your claim, not mine. Your cite, not mine. Let's keep our eye on the ball, shall we?

You can try and move the goal post (is this were I post a cute picture?) or walk back your statement, but it will not change the fact that you made a statement and cannot prove it's true.


I don't doubt that "cite both drivers" happens for some accidents here; Tennessee is a shared-fault state. But I've been involved in three following-too-closely accidents in the city of Memphis:
- in 1998, the following driver (me) was issued a ticket; I don't know what happened with the followed driver, as I didn't think to ask if the cop had done something as monumentally stupid as ticket the other driver for failing to avoid my poor driving.
- in 2005/2006, the following driver was issued a ticket. The followed driver (me) was given a "courtesy summons" with a court date on it, in order to know when to show up and testify if the following driver chose to fight it.
- in 2012, the followed driver (me) had to raise a stink to get a report issued at all; no citations were issued, despite visible property damage.
 
2012-12-31 11:33:32 PM  
Another stupid farkin cop speeding to get to the donut shop or hurrying to get in on a police brutality call who was forced to do the speed limit for a whole three minutes.

/FTP
//This is one of the many reasons people hate cops so much
///Farking asshat
 
2013-01-01 12:13:11 AM  

A General Disdain For All Of Humanity: LtDarkstar: If she needed to speed a bit to get around the truck she would have been fine. A long time ago I volunteered for a local police department and got to go on ride-alongs. All of the Milwaukee-suburban police departments go by the following guidelines when pulling over speeders:

5 mph over - they will ignore you, feel free!
10mph over - they will most likely ignore you, unless it's early morning or late evening and they are bored
15mph over - this is the magic number, they will pull you over just about 100% of the time for doing this or higher

I tend to always drive 5mph over the limit and have never gotten pulled over or a ticket for doing so (I've driven past cops doing that and they just laugh and keep eating their donuts). So ya, she probably should have hopped up to 5mph over and stop being a wimp.

May not apply with Wisconsin State Patrol.

Got behind a trooper going 2 under. Would never pass a Wisconsin trooper. Apparently not alone in that sentiment, every vehicle would pull up in the left lane, see the trooper and drop back into line. One brave soul passed the line going 1-2 mph faster. As soon as he cleared the trooper, the trooper swung into the left lane and hit the lights.

/Have been passed by county cops going faster than my 5 over.


That's one group you DO have to watch, WI state troupers all seem to have sticks up their arses. I was pulled over because a state patrol cop had someone pulled over in a bus lane (it was a very wide bus lane and he had lots of room) and I slowed down to way below the limit, even went to the edge of my lane to give the guy room (I couldn't change lanes because I had someone that was too close to my car to change lanes), but of course that wasn't good enough for that guy, he pulled me over and yelled at me for not changing lanes. I told him that there was a car in the other lane and he "claims" that I had enough room to move over, bullshiat he was at the side of the road tending to someone else, how would HE know if I had enough room or not as he was not driving my car. Watch them buggers.
 
2013-01-01 12:43:37 AM  

SnarfVader: Bad driver thread!

/Makes popcorn


asshole cop thread.
 
2013-01-01 01:23:49 AM  
Finally!

A story of a cop doing something useful.
 
2013-01-01 01:31:35 AM  

mscleo: Finally!

A story of a cop doing something useful.


Not quite. More like a cop being a co-moron to someone else's stupidity. Trying to coerce someone to drive faster than the legal maximum would make him a co-moron.
 
2013-01-01 01:33:49 AM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Drove 400 mostly highway miles for the holidays. Didn't see as much stupidity as I expected to (or I've learned to ignore it better), but I always see at least one example of people who don't know how to pass a semi.

FYI: In order to pass a truck, you have to go FASTER than the truck.

Dipshiats.


Well, I say this as a professional driver...the most obnoxious habit of some of my fellow "professionals" is to speed up to the speed limit with another vehicle next to them. I try to let the vehicle next to me when I enter the road pass before hitting the limit, but it bugs the fark out of me when others who work the road don't afford the same courtesy to me, since it forces me to drop back and fall behind when I was initially intending to pass.
 
2013-01-01 01:34:57 AM  

kpaxoid: hoots_toot_ochaye: kp

Then charge the truck driver for not yielding the right of way so she could pull over in front of the truck.


It's not the truck driver's responsibility to yield to passing vehicles when there's a dedicated passing lane (ie, white line) in the same direction. Courtesy, sure, but good luck getting anybody to extend that...
 
2013-01-01 01:45:02 AM  

LtDarkstar: I was pulled over because a state patrol cop had someone pulled over in a bus lane (it was a very wide bus lane and he had lots of room) and I slowed down to way below the limit, even went to the edge of my lane to give the guy room (I couldn't change lanes because I had someone that was too close to my car to change lanes), but of course that wasn't good enough for that guy, he pulled me over and yelled at me for not changing lanes.


Probably because most states, Wisconsin included based on Google search, requires you to vacate the lane if there's more than one lane each way. The nearest lane to an emergency vehicle is closed to all traffic. This isn't new, it's been around for a few years now; had you actually read a recent driver's manual and your state's vehicle code like you're supposed to do on a regular basis, you would already know this.

So, basic rule is: If there's more than one lane in your direction, and one has an emergency vehicle stopped with it's red lights lit, the lane adjacent is closed, period. If there's only one lane, take the speed limit, subtract 20.
 
2013-01-01 02:41:05 AM  
Don't dis the sigh
if you can't pay the fine

first you got catch
the midnight rider

figure it'll be pennies by the violation

civil violations are

ILLEGAL!!!
 
2013-01-01 02:46:23 AM  

Baloo Uriza: kpaxoid: hoots_toot_ochaye: kp

Then charge the truck driver for not yielding the right of way so she could pull over in front of the truck.

It's not the truck driver's responsibility to yield to passing vehicles when there's a dedicated passing lane (ie, white line) in the same direction. Courtesy, sure, but good luck getting anybody to extend that...


Although, if he was going slow, and then sped up when he saw that he was getting passed, he is the one that created the block. Factor in the cop tailgating her, and it's a fail all around, she could win fighting the ticket.

I see that a LOT, whether it's a trucker or not. Some people just cannot stand getting passed even if they're going under the limit. And cops following too close, almost instigating a fark up so they can write a ticket.

Keep in mind I'm not some cop hater, I stick up for them a lot in threads on fark, but in this case, if he was following that close, he's the dick. Traffic and beat cops are some of the most habitual offenders of common decency.

If not, if the cop gave her room to slow and pull behind the truck, then she deserved the ticket.
 
2013-01-01 03:11:06 AM  

Trayal: A policeman/patrolman isn't going to pull somebody over for going 1mph over the speed limit, especially in such a situation when doing so would effectively clear a roadblock.

I drive about 100 miles per day, and so am in situations similar to this often. Just increase 1 or 2 mph, then move over and clear out of the lane. Never been pulled over for it; the cop generally just wants to be on his/her way.

It's about farking time somebody started enforcing the laws that are intended to maintain a clean flow of traffic. Kudos to this guy.


I don't know. My mom got her only traffic ticket ever for going 26 in a 25 speed limit area. It wasn't a school or construction zone, just a residential street. No kids out playing. Cop must have been having a bad day.
 
2013-01-01 03:37:35 AM  

filter: Is it really illegal ton pass on the right?!


Think rush hour stop and go traffic before you call me an idiot.


It's a common misconception. Virtually ever state's laws say the same thing about passing on the right: "it is legal, as long as it is safe." (I'd looked it up once before and found that in my state, NY, passing on right is legal; just looked it up again, and Oregon was the first I ran into, which was legal as well. I assume the in article's NJ it is, though perhaps the NJ Turnpike has extra laws about it? Who knows.)

It's not recommended though, mostly out of... tradition? The left lane is for passing, simply because that's the standard and what people expect.

Yes, cops, this is what happens when you make people afraid of you. They panic too much at sight of you to speed a few miles an hour over (cause they think you'll nail them for it) to pass a truck, and stupid shiat happens (which you nail them for anyway). You, police, are supposed to be on our side. But ya farked it up. Yay!
 
2013-01-01 03:42:56 AM  

omeganuepsilon: Although, if he was going slow, and then sped up when he saw that he was getting passed, he is the one that created the block. Factor in the cop tailgating her, and it's a fail all around, she could win fighting the ticket.

I see that a LOT, whether it's a trucker or not. Some people just cannot stand getting passed even if they're going under the limit. And cops following too close, almost instigating a fark up so they can write a ticket.

Keep in mind I'm not some cop hater, I stick up for them a lot in threads on fark, but in this case, if he was following that close, he's the dick. Traffic and beat cops are some of the most habitual offenders of common decency.

If not, if the cop gave her room to slow and pull behind the truck, then she deserved the ticket.


Oh, no question. I've never pushed the issue, I mean, I drive commercial D these days, so I'm a four-wheelie myself, but even in situations where a commercial C 6-wheelie or higher 18-wheelie runs a yield, I'll move over for 'em even though they're supposed to stop for through traffic. And if I get trapped next to 'em, I'll be the one to drop down to 65 and fall back to merge behind the bigger vehicle. Oklahoma Highway Patrol has been very professional in either allowing appropriate following distance to let me pass at n-1 MPH where n=maximum legal speed. Being a pro driver and a former locomotive operator, I go one-under so if I go downhill, I hit the limit instead of having to apply the brakes or go over on the downhills just out of force of habit. Can usually make the fall back and merge behind in under 2 miles when I realize it and the bigger vehicle doesn't give me the courtesy of completing a pass, though if OHP flashes the blue lights, I'll use the brakes and get it done in 2500 feet or so, that they can fly by. But absent an official signal on the cop's part and some effort on the gal's part, it really sounds like both were being dicks deliberately...
 
2013-01-01 04:03:07 AM  

Baloo Uriza: Oh, no question. I've never pushed the issue


I hadn't seen anyone else bring it up and was wondering why. To try to pass and have someone speed up is VERY common.

Of course, this being fark, some people bicker just to bicker I think, actual discussion is avoided sometimes, at all cost.

IMO, it'd be nice to have a +5 to speed limit for passing(and only for smaller vehicles passing large ones) law on the books. Driving behind a semi sucks balls, visibility gets dropped, can't read road signs, etc. And the sheer size of them makes them a hazard in and among themselves, +/- personal anxiety of driving next to such gigantic things.

I say allow people to blow past them legally, as long as speed is reduced back down to listed limit after they're cleared.

Baloo Uriza: But absent an official signal on the cop's part and some effort on the gal's part, it really sounds like both were being dicks deliberately...


I blame the article for being hazy(at best). Typical on the net, I suppose, but frustrating when people want to figure out who's at fault.
 
2013-01-01 04:47:43 AM  
I had this happen exactly as the article described: blocked by truck, pushed by cop, accelerated to free the lane and got ticketed. Complimented the cop on using his creativity contributing to his quota.
 
2013-01-01 05:43:18 AM  
Simple solution.
Go around.

The driver did absolutely nothing wrong, the LEO should write himself a ticket for following too close.
DB
 
2013-01-01 06:41:16 AM  
If you are going to be going the speed limit, do not be in the left lane. The left lane is for passing. This driver had 3 miles to make a decision, the cop had to make it for her.
 
2013-01-01 07:24:23 AM  
Without getting into the 'Speed Limits are arbitrary and local income sources' - Speed Limit is the Limit.
There is a lower limit on most highways - usually 45 MPH - also a limit.
Go faster, you are over-driving based on the conditions of the area.
Go slower, you are impeding traffic.

Stay to the right except to pass is also the rule here - but let us do some simple math.

Two vehicles traveling at near speeds - say the driver was doing 65 and the truck was doing 64.
3 miles at 65 MPH = 2.76 minutes
Truck travels at 64 MPH for 2.76 minutes is a distance of 2.94 miles
A Difference of about 26 feet.
Now, average semi length of around 70 feet means that it would take about another 5 or 6 miles for passing.

Using all of this, 3 miles was not near long enough to judge 'impeding traffic' - it was within normal passing distance and time.

/This was based on there had to be reason to pass the truck, and that reason was speeds did not match, and that assumption furthered by auto going at speed limit, therefor the truck had to traveling slightly slower.
 
2013-01-01 12:16:52 PM  
I tell my wife to pass at a reasonable speed. Dont ever stay the same speed as a semi. Bad things can happen, tires blow, drivers get distracted or even the truck may have to do a emergency lane change. I tell her that if she gets a speeding ticket I will pay it, just get around them...
 
2013-01-01 12:41:19 PM  
This is why Sandy punished New Jersey
 
2013-01-01 12:47:59 PM  

Baloo Uriza: omeganuepsilon: Although, if he was going slow, and then sped up when he saw that he was getting passed, he is the one that created the block. Factor in the cop tailgating her, and it's a fail all around, she could win fighting the ticket.

I see that a LOT, whether it's a trucker or not. Some people just cannot stand getting passed even if they're going under the limit. And cops following too close, almost instigating a fark up so they can write a ticket.

Keep in mind I'm not some cop hater, I stick up for them a lot in threads on fark, but in this case, if he was following that close, he's the dick. Traffic and beat cops are some of the most habitual offenders of common decency.

If not, if the cop gave her room to slow and pull behind the truck, then she deserved the ticket.

Oh, no question. I've never pushed the issue, I mean, I drive commercial D these days, so I'm a four-wheelie myself, but even in situations where a commercial C 6-wheelie or higher 18-wheelie runs a yield, I'll move over for 'em even though they're supposed to stop for through traffic. And if I get trapped next to 'em, I'll be the one to drop down to 65 and fall back to merge behind the bigger vehicle. Oklahoma Highway Patrol has been very professional in either allowing appropriate following distance to let me pass at n-1 MPH where n=maximum legal speed. Being a pro driver and a former locomotive operator, I go one-under so if I go downhill, I hit the limit instead of having to apply the brakes or go over on the downhills just out of force of habit. Can usually make the fall back and merge behind in under 2 miles when I realize it and the bigger vehicle doesn't give me the courtesy of completing a pass, though if OHP flashes the blue lights, I'll use the brakes and get it done in 2500 feet or so, that they can fly by. But absent an official signal on the cop's part and some effort on the gal's part, it really sounds like both were being dicks deliberately...


Most likely a bit of run up to the story.
 
2013-01-01 12:49:39 PM  

Rye_: fredklein: bhcompy: It's your job to obey the law, which means not impeding traffic.

And it's their job to obey the law and not speed. And if they don't speed, then I'm NOT impeding traffic.

If you're driving 65 in the left lane on a highway, I guarantee that you're impeding traffic, and, like it or not, you'll probably be pulled over for it. You're everyone's problem. That's because every time you go out in your car, you're unsafe. I don't like you because you're dangerous.


We call this behavior "Passive Aggression".
Makes you a dick.
 
2013-01-01 01:10:17 PM  
as a corollary today, on my way home from work on the motorcycle i had a slower car in the left...


he got into the right lane and i gave a friendly wave as i rode by.

yes a wave not a salute not a flip a wave...
 
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