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2012-12-31 02:49:38 PM
If you can't move to the right because you're pacing the car next to you you are a retard and need to hand in your license. I have no love for corruption but this cop, in this instance, was in the right (so far as I can tell from skimming the article).
 
2012-12-31 02:51:52 PM

hoots_toot_ochaye: Well, I would hope one of the things they'll teach her in that defensive driving class is not to travel alongside a tractor-trailer unit for any length of time. If one of those blows a tire while you're alongside it, you could very well be toast. The percussion impact can be powerful enough to knock you right off the road.

I was travelling on a country road a few years back, and the vehicle in front of me was a dump truck - and it was almost a half mile ahead of me. It blew a tire, and I could feel the percussion impact of the blast from that far back. I can just about imagine what it would have felt like if I were significantly closer.

If you find yourself next to a large truck of some sort, the best thing to do is to either speed up and get in front of it, or slow down and get behind it. Don't just continue to travel beside it.


Without a cop there, this would probably wouldn't have happened. With a cop, it's a mild Kobyashi Maru.

Slowing down to change lanes behind it means you're still blocking traffic, maybe impeding or some other offense ; speeding up to get in front means you're, well, speeding .
 
2012-12-31 02:52:14 PM
I was driving at night on the interstate, nearly empty road.
Playing "you go first" up and down the hills with a truck, in a nice way.
Uphill I go left lane, downhill he goes past me, I go right lane again.
Over and over.
So we reach the crest of a hill and there's this maniac suddenly right behind me, tailgating like a crazy person AND with his lights of. It was 11pm or so.
I'm not into it.
I hit the gas and speed the fark up because I don't like being in dangerous situations.
The other car rides my rear so hard, the truck starts to speed up going down hill, I speed up more.
THAT'S when the trooper puts his lights on, after pushing me to 85+ mph.

I won the "not guilty" case in court, the judge admonished the tool/fool.
 
2012-12-31 02:52:23 PM

hoots_toot_ochaye: "There was a tractor-trailer truck right next to her, and she didn't know what to do," dad explained. "Instead of ... passing the truck ... and risking a speeding ticket or [signaling] and slowing down ... to move behind the truck ... she maintained her speed,  thinking this was OK."

Well, I would hope one of the things they'll teach her in that defensive driving class is not to travel alongside a tractor-trailer unit for any length of time.  If one of those blows a tire while you're alongside it, you could very well be toast.  The percussion impact can be powerful enough to knock you right off the road.

I was travelling on a country road a few years back, and the vehicle in front of me was a dump truck - and it was almost a half mile ahead of me.  It blew a tire, and I could feel the percussion impact of the blast from that far back.  I can just about imagine what it would have felt like if I were significantly closer.

If you find yourself next to a large truck of some sort, the best thing to do is to either speed up and get in front of it, or slow down and get behind it.  Don't just continue to travel beside it.


That's interesting. See I do the opposite trying to stay in their RADAR shadow but have never seen (or felt) a blowout.
 
2012-12-31 02:52:27 PM
This lady is an idiot. Stay right except to pass. What part of the law does she not understand?
 
2012-12-31 02:52:35 PM

Rich Cream: mbillips: SPEED UP SLOW DOWN, YOU IDIOT, IT'S SAFER!

Now it's intelligent.


It's all about delta V. Go the speed of the prevailing traffic. People who try to drive 55 because that's on the sign, but everyone around the is going 65-70? THEY'RE the ones causing the danger, not everyone else.
 
2012-12-31 02:52:59 PM

Vegan Meat Popsicle: KimNorth: Good! I so hate these control freaks who get off on holding up traffic just because they can, move the fark over you asshat!

I don't think that's it, I think they're just cowards and idiots. I frequently see people pull from an onramp straight across the left most lane then proceed to not pass and jam up the road behind them.

I usually wait a bit then just start flashing my lights periodically. If it goes on long enough I wait until it's clear again to the right and just move over at which point they get the horn and the finger out the window.

I'm sure these idiots think they're doing nothing wrong and have no idea why people are always being so mean and nasty to them all the time time or why there's always a mile long line of pissed off people behind them...


I hate Ohio generally but got stuck for an hour withan equal # of people in the right and left somehow all going 5 under (I know not to speed / driving while Michigander but it was awful). After I finally broke through and started driving in the right passing semis on a frequent clip in the left finally getting into a good groove...two of my coworkers asked why I was driving like that. They had honestly never heard of such a thing. Granted it was the two young'uns but come ON.
 
2012-12-31 02:53:19 PM

Trayal: A policeman/patrolman isn't going to pull somebody over for going 1mph over the speed limit, especially in such a situation when doing so would effectively clear a roadblock.

I drive about 100 miles per day, and so am in situations similar to this often. Just increase 1 or 2 mph, then move over and clear out of the lane. Never been pulled over for it; the cop generally just wants to be on his/her way.

It's about farking time somebody started enforcing the laws that are intended to maintain a clean flow of traffic. Kudos to this guy.


I had a Tennessee State Trooper tell me they don't get out of their cars for any less than 300 dollars, or a reckless driving ticket. On the other hand, Crump TN has "Officer Douchebag", who waited till I was technically out of his jurisdiction to pull me over after I had just gotten off work and decided to drive 100 miles to surprise my parents in the morning. Not only did Officer Douchebag try to get me to admit I had been drinking and then to let him search my car, he almost got his ass ran over by a logging truck because he was in Black BDUs and a tactical vest doing traffic work.
 
2012-12-31 02:53:49 PM

kpaxoid: She did not want to speed up and get charged for speeding. She did not want to slow down with a car 12 feet off her bumper.


It's also possible that if it was bad weather she no longer felt she could speed up, because she was being tailgated. For example, if the road was wet, she may have been afraid that her car would swerve as she got past the truck. If the car behind her really was 12 feet off her bumper, there wasn't a lot that she could do.

I did have a cop car 12 feet behind me once. I found the easy way out: I pulled over. Legally, you're always in the clear pulling over when there's an emergency vehicle behind you, even if the lights aren't going. Assuming there was a median, she could have done that as well. I suspect the reality though is that fear made the car behind her look bigger. I suspect the cop car was far enough back that she could have slowed down or sped up without difficulty.
 
2012-12-31 02:56:27 PM
Note: In most places cops don't care about 5-10 over. They don't even care about 15 over if they have somewhere more important to be, but there's no way if you can know that or not. Get in front, slow down. (This does not apply in Virginia and Ohio. Better to brake and get behind the semi in those cases. Why some states breed total farkwad state police instead of the usual occasional farkwads is anyone's guess.)

The reality is that she was just another of those idiot drivers who speeds up or slows down to match anyone who gets alongside her, because then she can completely disconnect her brain and stop thinking about anything in front of or behind her. She probably didn't even know there was a cop there. I see them every day, they're more common in rural areas but even urban ones have their fair share.
 
2012-12-31 02:57:26 PM
The only ticket I ever got was for passing on the right. The only car in the left lane was driving slowly and I was stuck behind it. There was a break in traffic in the right lane so I went around the slow car and pulled back into the left, "fast", lane. About a mile down the road I get pulled over by a state cop. I think I am getting a speeding ticket because I usually set my cruise at 8 mph over the speed limit. The state cop starts going off his nut about me passing in the right lane and I am relieved he doesn't mention my speed one time. As I try to explain the left lane car had everybody behind him boxed in and I thought they should have pulled back over to the right lane he really goes off his rocker and starts telling me he is going to also give me a ticket for reckless driving and asks if I have been drinking. I said no but he still made do the sobriety test and a breathalyzer. I passed the sobriety test and blew a zero, I told him I wasn't drinking, that just seemed to make him madder that he couldn't arrest me. Now he wants to search the car, with my wife and kid in it and I told him no, he didn't have any probable cause. He made stand outside with my hands on the trunk of the car and don't "move one farking inch" He goes back to his car for probably 20 minutes, most likely running my license and looking for warrants or any other reason to search the car or arrest me. He finally comes out gives me one ticket for passing on the right and tells me he is going to be watching for my car in the future. After most likely over an hour I am back on my way with him tailgating me for the next 20 miles waiting for me to do something else he can pull me over for, he finally gives up and stops at one of his speed traps between the four lane.

/long story
//asshole cop
///I still don't know where he was when he saw me and pulled me over, I always keep an eye out for them
/And I still set my cruise at 8 mph over and pass on the right
 
2012-12-31 02:58:30 PM

foxyshadis: Why some states breed total farkwad state police instead of the usual occasional farkwads is anyone's guess.)


Because in most large states, the State Police/Troopers only have their traffic court at certain areas, and it's easier for most people they pull over to pay the ticket than go to court and get it dismissed for court costs. It's also why they, by and large, pull over people with out of state tags on the Interstates a lot more.

Speeding ticket practices are one area where even someone like me, who generally defends cops, will call them out over their shenanigans.
 
2012-12-31 02:59:06 PM

bhcompy: It's a grey area, but the laws are ambiguous for a reason.


Yeah- so the cops can arrest you no matter what you do.
 
2012-12-31 02:59:33 PM
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2012-12-31 03:00:52 PM

chewielouie: FTFA "Too few drivers, it seems, understand the meaning of road signs that encourage us to "Stay right.""

If you don't understand this, then turn your license in. There's a very good chance that you are a danger to yourself and others. Learn how to drive. Study the rules, and re-take the driver's license exam.


Too few drivers, it seems, understand the meaning of road signs that say "Speed Limit."

If you don't understand this, then turn your license in. There's a very good chance that you are a danger to yourself and others. Learn how to drive. Study the rules, and re-take the driver's license exam.
 
2012-12-31 03:01:44 PM

foxyshadis: Note: In most places cops don't care about 5-10 over.


If I'm driving on a mostly empty freeway, I always set my cruise control for 9 over.  In 25 years of driving, I've never been pulled over.  Maybe I could have gotten away with going a little faster, but 9 over is a good compromise for me.
 
2012-12-31 03:02:37 PM

Funbags: Relevant video


that was a beautiful thing.

I've found that there is no need for "brake checks" or any dangerous methods to correct this situation.  Simply get in front of the mental patient and do the exact speed they are.  They will try to move around you, or at least move over as you have taken away their motivation for derping down the fast lane in the first place, that is to have an un-obstructed lane.   Of course any reactive behavior is stupid as the driver goes back to being  an ass as soon as you leave their sight.
 
2012-12-31 03:03:46 PM
graphics8.nytimes.com

"Have you ever noticed that anybody driving slower than you is an idiot, and anyone going faster than you is a maniac?"
 
2012-12-31 03:03:55 PM

jigger: ZeroPly: Not an emergency, officer? Then drive the speed limit like everyone else, sh*tbag.


No farking way. If a cop is driving the speed limit, nobody will pass him, and traffic gets blocked up for miles.

A cop should drive 1-2 mph faster than traffic normally goes. Keeps traffic flowing and keeps people from getting nervous because a cop is behind them for 20 miles.
 
2012-12-31 03:04:33 PM

foxyshadis: Note: In most places cops don't care about 5-10 over. They don't even care about 15 over if they have somewhere more important to be, but there's no way if you can know that or not. Get in front, slow down. (This does not apply in Virginia and Ohio. Better to brake and get behind the semi in those cases. Why some states breed total farkwad state police instead of the usual occasional farkwads is anyone's guess.)

The reality is that she was just another of those idiot drivers who speeds up or slows down to match anyone who gets alongside her, because then she can completely disconnect her brain and stop thinking about anything in front of or behind her. She probably didn't even know there was a cop there. I see them every day, they're more common in rural areas but even urban ones have their fair share.


German traffic engineers call them sheep drivers. They are the ones that pass you only to realize they are speeding so they change in your lane and decelerate 5-10 mph. When you pass them they realize they are being pass and start to speed up. They might feel comfortable for awhile next to somebody blocking all traffic behind them.

It probably isnt a cognitive process (most of their driving probably couldnt be called
'Cognitive' decisions). Usually when I encountered them I make sure my Waze app is fired up and blow past them at 25 mph+ over until they are well out of reach of my rearview.
 
2012-12-31 03:04:34 PM
If a cop is targeting you then you are going to get a ticket for something. You cant avoid it, you probably cant fight it unless you have powerfull people who owe you, you are getting a ticket and will have to pay a fine. If you are lucky. Try to resist in any way and your life will be ruined and or you will possibly be killed.

You asked for this citizen.
 
2012-12-31 03:06:08 PM

pedrop357: Slowing down to change lanes behind it means you're still blocking traffic, maybe impeding or some other offense ; speeding up to get in front means you're, well, speeding .


Oh, for crying out loud!

Certainly, speeding up and overtaking the truck, and then pulling to the right is the better option, but no decent cop is going to ticket you for signalling your intention to pull to the right, and then slowing down enough so that you can.  And if they do, then they really are a jerk of a cop.

The cop in this instance, wasn't, IMHO.
 
2012-12-31 03:06:24 PM

Theaetetus: Eh. I'm as anti-cop as they come, but...


Why didn't she move to the middle lane?

"There was a tractor-trailer truck right next to her, and she didn't know what to do," dad explained. "Instead of ... passing the truck ... and risking a speeding ticket or [signaling] and slowing down ... to move behind the truck ... she maintained her speed, thinking this was OK."

It wasn't. The trooper pulled her over and issued a summons for failing to keep right. The cop wasn't interested in her fear of moving to the right. And he sure didn't want to hear complaints about his own driving.

"Too bad," he told her, noting that he gave her "three miles" to find a way to yield.

If true, she essentially set up a rolling roadblock with the truck for 3 miles.


But the semi truck driver and the cop are to blame as well.

I use the left lane to pass all of the time, within the speed limit, and on occasion the vehicle I'm passing speeds up from whatever sense of machismo the guy I'm passing speeds up to the speed limit.

If the cop pulled in tight behind her in the process, it is effectively entrapment. He blocked her one legal maneuver she had available to her.
 
2012-12-31 03:06:52 PM

Theaetetus:

If true, she essentially set up a rolling roadblock with the truck for 3 miles.


At 65MPH, that is almost 3 WHOLE MINUTES of time. OMG! That is enough to listen to one Britney song or the just the guitar solo of a Rush one.

For all saying that you can brazenly drive 5 or 10MPH the speed limit, it varies to localities. Its part of the reason why I only drive Interstates and stay off the back roads. The pissant cops and sheriffs that are looking for a payday on Bumfark, OH are more likely to nabb you for doing 46 in a 45 than the a State trooper will for 5 or 10 over on the Interstate.

/CSB:

When the Atchafalaya basin bridge dropped the speed for cars to 60 they local sheriffs would patrol it pretty heavily. I was running the left lane at about 65 and was coming up on one. I thought about passing, but I slowed and pulled over behind him. The car behind me crept past him at somewhere between 60 and 63 I would guess. As soon his nose got in front of the cop, the lights came on. Its been years since I have seen a local cop on the basin bridge, it is now all troopers. I've never seen them stop anyone that was doing under 70MPH.

/CSB
 
2012-12-31 03:07:12 PM
fark you biatch. He gave you three farking miles to move over and vacate the passing lane. You're not supposed to drive in it doing the speed limit. It's for PASSING. It's not his fault you're a crappy driver who doesn't know how to change a lane.
 
2012-12-31 03:07:16 PM
Sounds like she's just inexperienced, but I'll bet (at least I hope) that she picked up some valuable experience from that incident. Unless the cop is seriously behind on collecting the road tax, 5 MPH over is not going to cause problems. A notable exception are small-town speed traps where tickets help pay the officer's salary.

I once passed a deputy sheriff on a country two-lane. He was going about 60 in a 65 MPH zone. I waited for a passing zone, signaled my lane changes and passed his slowpoke ass at at least 70. Not even a blink.
 
2012-12-31 03:08:17 PM
Was the dad in the car or was she alone? I am confused by this fact. If the dad was in the car, then why didn't he tell her to pass the truck and move over? I am guessing she was alone, texting on her iphone, to be safe she was traveling slow on the left lane, a cop pulled her over because she had to text her friend rather than get over, and told the cop who her daddy was.

/just sayin
 
2012-12-31 03:12:11 PM

mbillips: People who try to drive 55 because that's on the sign, but everyone around the is going 65-70? THEY'RE the ones causing the danger, not everyone else.



Stop agreeing with me.

/your argument is majority rule? or mob rule or what?
 
2012-12-31 03:12:23 PM

hoots_toot_ochaye: pedrop357: Slowing down to change lanes behind it means you're still blocking traffic, maybe impeding or some other offense ; speeding up to get in front means you're, well, speeding .

Oh, for crying out loud!

Certainly, speeding up and overtaking the truck, and then pulling to the right is the better option, but no decent cop is going to ticket you for signalling your intention to pull to the right, and then slowing down enough so that you can.  And if they do, then they really are a jerk of a cop.

The cop in this instance, wasn't, IMHO.



Wasn't a jerk-off, or wasn't decent?
 
2012-12-31 03:12:45 PM

BronyMedic: Trayal: A policeman/patrolman isn't going to pull somebody over for going 1mph over the speed limit, especially in such a situation when doing so would effectively clear a roadblock.

I drive about 100 miles per day, and so am in situations similar to this often. Just increase 1 or 2 mph, then move over and clear out of the lane. Never been pulled over for it; the cop generally just wants to be on his/her way.

It's about farking time somebody started enforcing the laws that are intended to maintain a clean flow of traffic. Kudos to this guy.

I had a Tennessee State Trooper tell me they don't get out of their cars for any less than 300 dollars, or a reckless driving ticket. On the other hand, Crump TN has "Officer Douchebag", who waited till I was technically out of his jurisdiction to pull me over after I had just gotten off work and decided to drive 100 miles to surprise my parents in the morning. Not only did Officer Douchebag try to get me to admit I had been drinking and then to let him search my car, he almost got his ass ran over by a logging truck because he was in Black BDUs and a tactical vest doing traffic work.


Karma's a mean biatch. :)
 
2012-12-31 03:13:03 PM
Keep the left lane clear. If you're coming up on a cyclist and you need to give him some room, you don't want the left lane clogged.
 
2012-12-31 03:13:38 PM

Eddie Adams from Torrance: "If we all followed that law," said Doug Groner of Hillsdale, "we'd have everybody squeezed into one right lane."

No farktard. Most European highways are 2 lanes and when people stay the fark right traffic flows 1000% better.


I can usually drive faster and pass easier in the right lane around here. This pisses me off to no end. Flashing lights and the horn don't seem to get the attention of the idiots who drive 3 over in the left lane and think they're doing something intelligent.
 
2012-12-31 03:13:55 PM

Rich Cream: mbillips: People who try to drive 55 because that's on the sign, but everyone around the is going 65-70? THEY'RE the ones causing the danger, not everyone else.


Stop agreeing with me.

/your argument is majority rule? or mob rule or what?



In the case of TFA, it was the "dudes with the guns" rule.
 
2012-12-31 03:15:05 PM
It's odd to me that some states have laws against passing on the right. It's actually quite a bit safer passing on the right because the driver of the car being passed has a much smaller blind spot on the right than the left.
 
2012-12-31 03:16:31 PM

Theaetetus: Eh. I'm as anti-cop as they come, but...


Why didn't she move to the middle lane?

"There was a tractor-trailer truck right next to her, and she didn't know what to do," dad explained. "Instead of ... passing the truck ... and risking a speeding ticket or [signaling] and slowing down ... to move behind the truck ... she maintained her speed, thinking this was OK."

It wasn't. The trooper pulled her over and issued a summons for failing to keep right. The cop wasn't interested in her fear of moving to the right. And he sure didn't want to hear complaints about his own driving.

"Too bad," he told her, noting that he gave her "three miles" to find a way to yield.

If true, she essentially set up a rolling roadblock with the truck for 3 miles.


This. She created a much more dangerous situation by pacing that truck, than if she had exceeded the speed limit briefly in order to pass it and get over into the right hand lane.
 
2012-12-31 03:17:26 PM

eas81: shinji3i: How does a story like this come to be? Someone received a traffic violation and then informed the local mediablogged it?

/FTFY
//Also GTFO of the "fast lane" there is a reason why its called the "fast lane" you farktard!!!


Actually, there is no reason it is called the "fast lane." I've driven in about 30 of the 50 US states (and half a dozen other countries), and I've never seen a sign for a 'fast lane.' I've seen signs for slow lanes (for slow trucks going uphill) but I've never seen a fast lane.

It's called the "passing lane," and I don't give a fark how "fast" you are going. If you aren't passing, GTFO of the passing lane.

This might be the first time I've made a pro-cop post on Fark, but the fuzz in this case was 100% correct.

And yes, in NJ this isn't just a good idea, it's the law. And WTF? Even if you don't think of the left lane as the passing lane, how much sense does it take to let a cop go around you? Does she know not to wipe back to front? Does she know not to eat gum she finds on the ground?

The story says she was on her way home from college. Holy shiat! She better be able to throw a ball or dribble or something, cause her academic abilities aren't going to get her very far.

Hey sugar tits. Get. The fark. Out. Of. The. Passing. Lane.
 
2012-12-31 03:19:29 PM

meanmutton: It's odd to me that some states have laws against passing on the right. It's actually quite a bit safer passing on the right because the driver of the car being passed has a much smaller blind spot on the right than the left.


farm6.staticflickr.com
 
2012-12-31 03:20:25 PM
Nothing gets the young dudes all bent out of shape like guns and cars.
 
2012-12-31 03:20:31 PM
fredfredklein: bhcompy: Impeding the flow of traffic laws exist in many states, and they're generally not tied to the speed limit, rather reasonable speeds ...

So, your argument is that it's "reasonable" to break the speed limit???

The Law might disagree.


Ever heard of the basic rule?

How about you quit driving aggressively to enforce other people following the law, and let cops handle it?

/passive aggressive is still very much aggressive, someone may eventually decide to be karma for you so be careful...
 
2012-12-31 03:23:53 PM

Popcorn Johnny: foxyshadis: Note: In most places cops don't care about 5-10 over.

If I'm driving on a mostly empty freeway, I always set my cruise control for 9 over.  In 25 years of driving, I've never been pulled over.  Maybe I could have gotten away with going a little faster, but 9 over is a good compromise for me.


Was pulled over in Arizona going 2 mph over on the freeway. Thought I had cruise control set on 1+ and I saw the cop on the side of the road and didn't think I needed to slow down. They gave me a warning...but still.

/some how kept from laughing
 
2012-12-31 03:25:23 PM

L_Yes: Keep Right Except to Pass - what is so confusing about that?


Speed Limit - what is so confusing about that?
 
2012-12-31 03:25:45 PM

ChuDogg: I make sure my Waze app is fired up


Waze, also a beautiful thing :)
 
2012-12-31 03:26:59 PM
Sounds kinda like the "pace setters" we have in town. They purposely drive 2 mph under and then call the cops with your make, model and license plate if you get within 10 feet of their bumper or god forbid pass them. Farking minivan driving soccer moms and Buick driving old broads.
 
2012-12-31 03:28:32 PM

Thorny: Was pulled over in Arizona going 2 mph over on the freeway. Thought I had cruise control set on 1+ and I saw the cop on the side of the road and didn't think I needed to slow down. They gave me a warning...but still.

/some how kept from laughing


I probably would have got a ticket after asking "are you farking kidding me?"
 
2012-12-31 03:28:40 PM
In Florida they think I95 is not only the name of the highway, but the speed limit as well... (it's 65)
We don't really have a passing lane but we have an HOV lane, and Semi Trucks are supposed to be in the right two lanes only.
 
2012-12-31 03:30:16 PM
Glad she got a ticket, left lane is for passing.
 
2012-12-31 03:31:09 PM

Fade2black: Trolltastic tag, since the Cop should be a hero. It's called impeding traffic. If you're so afraid of a ticket when a cop is tailgating you, you MOVE THE fark OVER. Not all of us are passive aggressive douchebags in Prius's that choose to contribute to the road rage cases in this country. It is against the law to be in the left lane and not passing someone.


Could you please come to Oahu and tell everyone (except me) that? Because these people are beyond stupid. Throw in a touch of a fascist mindset under the guise of "driving with aloha," and you've got prime passive-aggressive driving conditions. farkers.
 
2012-12-31 03:32:44 PM

The Jami Turman Fan Club: jigger: ZeroPly: Not an emergency, officer? Then drive the speed limit like everyone else, sh*tbag.

No farking way. If a cop is driving the speed limit, nobody will pass him, and traffic gets blocked up for miles.

A cop should drive 1-2 mph faster than traffic normally goes. Keeps traffic flowing and keeps people from getting nervous because a cop is behind them for 20 miles.


This is completely missing the point. Americans have been indoctrinated into a system where going the speed limit entails driving slower than everyone else. The circle of idiocy is completed by traffic planners - they realize that everyone drives about 10mph over the speed limit, so on a stretch of road where it's perfectly safe to go 65mph, they set the speed limit at 55mph.

The speed limit is the maximum safe speed. As soon as you go 1mph over it, you're automatically allowing probable cause and a Terry stop. The only way I can drive on the highway while preserving my 4th amendment rights is by driving the speed limit.

If you think the speed limit is too slow, then campaign to change the speed limit. Otherwise you're perpetuating a system where you can be stopped for going 1mph over the limit (has happened numerous times), and can also be stopped for going the speed limit (impeding traffic). Bottom line - the police can stop any vehicle at any time, which is their wet dream.
 
2012-12-31 03:32:49 PM
Around here it's the cops who come flying up on you in the right hand land, toss on their brights, and ride your ass while they randomly check your plates because it's past their bedtime and therefore you're a suspected drunk driver.

I honestly fear cop drivers more than drunk drivers, because the cops will literally blind me with their brights.
 
2012-12-31 03:33:08 PM
She should have just apologized, like this guy... I'm sure that wold have made everything better.
 
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